What would you say is the current percentage of legit/real apprentices and wizards on Wizchan?
When it comes to fake apprentices/wizards, the site's userbase was probably never perfect, not even on wizardchan's earliest days, with that said, I can only assume it has gotten worse since the 2016 election (due to all the attention imageboards got from the media during that time), the pewdiepie thing and it probably got even worse with crabs becoming mainstream due to the Toronto attack early last year.
Here are the types of non-apprentices/wizards who are almost definitely posting in this place right now:
-16 to 21 years old late bloomers who'll end up getting laid sooner or later (it's not even that rare or unusual to be a male virgin at 19 or 20 nowadays. IMHO, you should only be considered an apprentice once you hit at least 21).
-"Depressed" and "lonely" normies: Basically "nerdy" normans who don't get sex very often but have gotten at least 1 or 2 gfs, has a few nerdy friends to hang out with, but still feels "depressed" "lonely" and a "loser" because he doesn't get laid as often and isn't as social as the other non-nerd normalfaggots.
-crab Normies: Regular normals with friends and a job who remained virgins until later in their lives either because they're unnatractive or won't settle for a succubus bellow 7/10.
-4chad norms LARPing as one of us
-Non-virgin crabs: Normies who've had sex a few times in the past but are "depressed" and "feel like virgins" because it's been a long time since the last time they were able to fuck a succubus (in some cases many months, in other cases, years)
-Non-virgin volcels: Celibate MGTOWs basically.
Is it just me who gets a bit anxious thinking about this sort of stuff while browsing the site?
Maybe I'm worrying too much and it hasn't gotten this bad, but I can't help but feel like these fakes make up at least half of the current userbase.
So again, what would you say is the percentage of remaining real apprentices and wizards on this site in 2019?
And by "real" I mean: male, at least 20 years old, virgin, volcel (can include former crabs who called it quits years ago), hasn't talked/met with a friend in at least 3 years, doesn't leave the house very often (unless he has to wageslave, visit relatives, go to the hospital, buy groceries, take out the trash, take care of something for an elder relative, that kind of stuff).
(I know some of this is not on the rules/FAQ of the site, this definition of apprentice/wizard is for this thread only).
Would you say the percentage is below 30%?
>le true wizard thread number 100
These types of threads are always cringe and result in people bragging about their failures to see who's the most loser of all. For God's sake. Do something with your life.
This is hair splitting over what you admittedly can't know. I don't think wizchan is attractive to nonvirgins, and given that there are more imageboards than stars in the universe, they'd rather choose other places to go.
>>49941>result in people bragging about their failures to see who's the most loser of all
Not really what I'm asking for though.
The point of this thread can be summed up in these two questions:
>Is it just me who gets a bit anxious thinking about this sort of stuff while browsing the site?
>what would you say is the percentage of remaining real apprentices and wizards on this site in 2019
As someone who used to browse this site (as well as the old wizardchan board) a lot back in 2014-2016, but hasn't done so in a while, I'm curious about its current state and how much has it changed.
I think you are too paranoid. Most of the people you mentioned stay on /r9k/, MGTOW sites or crab forums.>>49942
There are a few that come here. A few years ago someone posted a link to a wizchan chat and there was a married guy there.
I’ve been thinking, with all the talks in the media of young men feeling alienated, dropping out of the rat race, becoming reclusive, no job etc it would be easier than ever to have a place where those of us who fit these criteria would be the majority or at the very least a sizable portion of the userbase, yet most posters here are fairly well-adjusted by society’s standards, have friends or they are young college goers, white collar workers and so on. You just have to trust that they are virgins but it’s not that rare for them to admit either here or elsewhere that they are not (and they can be very abusive ironically), in the end it’s all just a silly gimmick to them, the wizardry thing I mean, and they come here just like they would to any other “generic” ib.
In a way it makes sense I guess for people who are not social in real life to shun contact even on the internet, and even in “communities” supposedly made to cater to them. A somewhat similar phenomenon can be observed on mental health/autism-related forum where succubi are overrepresented.
I legit believe 95% + here are virgins. Volcels? ehh probably like 25% and most of them used to be crabs and gave up due to low self confidence or just flat out dont care anymore. As long as we dont talk about tfw no gf/r9k tier shit I dont really care tbh
There is most likely a link. Google "gender dysphoria autism".
I'm into old obscure computer systems and game consoles (probably a bit spergy myself), and there's definitely an over-representation of trans people in those kinds of hobbies as well.
Heck, I've kinda started associating transvestites with obscure nerdy hobbies.
I don´t think that is a correlation between the two things, is not like trans people are autists, or autism makes you transgender, is more like the autist person is more likely to be confused as fuck about their own sexual impulses and their social behaviour, enough to dive into a subculture that goes against the grain so wholeheartedly. Its just something that ticks some boxes for them so they pursue it for all the wrong reasons as autists pursue anything they do.
sadly there´s a validation culture that pretty much guarantees that they won´t be denied or contradicted if they insist enough, instead they´ll just receive instant gratification and positive reinforcement, and of course autists are well known for insisting in whatever their new obsession is so they´ll eventually just bypass filters that should be in place not to allow them to embarass themselves like that, by sheer insistence and brute force. I find it repulsive that so many psychiatrist know this and still are all to happy to play into it, thats the part were i think there´s either major flaws on logic or an agenda going on.
I believe there´s a lot of genuinely transgender people but their not that many as current hype will have us believe, i don´t even think a lot of them would benefit at all with public displays like that of the picture. And sure as fuck people with other mental issues should be screened better before allowed in that situation.
>>49948>I'm into old obscure computer systems and game consoles (probably a bit spergy myself), and there's definitely an over-representation of trans people in those kinds of hobbies as well.>Heck, I've kinda started associating transvestites with obscure nerdy hobbies.
Hmm ever heard of Chris Chan? He has autism and is probably the most documented person on the planet.https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Christian_Weston_Chandlerhttps://sonichu.com/cwcki/Commodore_64
I'm fine/don't care about crabs either as long as they're not the entitled failed normie kind. I'd say it's the social posters who should get told to leave rather than crabs in general
>>49945>yet most posters here are fairly well-adjusted by society’s standards, have friends or they are young college goers, white collar workers and so on.
I think you underestimate how easy it is to be "normal" outwardly but because modern sexual dynamics you just end up being a virgin.
Due to technology, it's really not difficult for an otherwise normal male to spend their school years playing videogames among their all-male peer groups or even no peer group at all so by the time they are in the work force they have nearly no social experience. Getting a girlfriend requires conscious effort if you're not so physically attractive that females will initiate. So combine having no mixed-sex socialization groups during youth on top of being average/below average in appearance means they are never in contact with females long enough to "get lucky" and stumble into a relationship.
I believe this is where the Japanese Herbivore Males phenomenon stems from, and it's happening in western societies as well.
Maybe part of it is that an autistic person would just be less likely to be dissuaded from actually trying to transition and get the surgery. Plenty of people would transition but realise that it's just not worth it. It's not worth the money, not worth the pain of surgery and risk of complications, not worth the social problems, and at the end of the day the results probably won't be that great anyways. It seems to me that autistic people would be more easily able to just discount all of that together and single mindedly focus on doing what they want and even purposefully ignoring the risks and drawbacks to all of it.
>>49953>by the time they are in the work force they have nearly no social experience
This is a contradiction.
you knew you couldn't have this thread without the jews dumping their kike psychiatry on it
Where's the contradiction?
doesn't matter, all i know is myself. frankly i don't care as long as they don't break the rules becauseit's impossible to tell otherwise.
hitting too close to home? lmao
Being a wizard is simply virgin past 30.
"no true scotsman" is a fallacy.
Whether you like it or not, not everyone who's a wizard has to be a homosexual/asexual, have no friends or otherwise.
You're not better or more true to this board just because you are an asocial retard, although most people, sadly including me, are.
If being a wizard was simply being a virgin past 30 we wouldn't have rules 2,3,4,7,8. You can be a "wizard" on some crab forum, but on wizchan the rules kinda imply what kind of person is welcome on the site: male virgin, not interested in 3d romantic and social activites, neutral if not positive about neet lifestyle and not an attentionwhore. "Wizard" as in poster on wizchan and "wizard" as in virgin past 30 are two seperate terms, homonyms, if you will. When people talk about "tru wizard" bullshit they imply the former term, though the latter is important to wiz-culture as well.
As a wizcuck, my wizwife agrees
Or we could have doctors who flat out refuse to give pills and practice surgery for what is fundamentally a fool’s errand (“sex change”) but nowadays common sense is too much to ask for even from so-called professionals with years of training.>>49962
It’s totally fine if you are still a virgin. And anyone who disagrees is a bitter crab. :^)
Bitter crab get out of wizchan. Why do you keep coming in here if you have 4chan and reddit?
You don't think good
Whatever that means.
You creatures are the reason it's impossible to have an adult conversation about anything in this world anymore. You can't go one minute without dragging everything down to psychiatry, down to the fucking sewer.
As long as the guality of the image broad is fine I dont give a shit.
What do you think of the current quality?
Its better then most Image broads one of the view where you can have a smart conversation but not as good as it could be.
Almost perfect now. Coziest board on Internet and also not too slow. /b/ is awful though, but it serves a useful purpose as the site's septic tank.
luckily the rules make them leave instantly
thank god for fascist kingpin mods
Anyone know of any other image boards, I'm refugee from 8chan's r9k
But the poster would win and shartlin would cry?
Imagine actually believing that NEW rules are what makes a wizard and that they are not there to just filter out the subversive element.
golden rule: Wizard is a 30yr old male virgin, the only stretch to that rule is apprenticeship (21 to 29 or however you want to define it, nobody agrees on the set definition here). That is all to the Wizard's definition and it should stay that way.
Wizard does not mean a loser! Anybody who says otherwise got too much crab in their brain, it makes him view the concept of worth by the lens of sexual achievements. Fornication is not the most important thing in life no matter how much you peepee makes you believe that. You can be successful in your work or your hobby and you can still be a wizard. If you're networking for career related reasons that is fine too. Everything is fine as long as it complies with the golden rule mentioned above. What happened to the enlightened wiz meme who seeks and finds serenity within self? I swear there must have been at least some people thinking like that back in the hotweels day and even recently like, just some years ago..
If I wrongfully mistook your posts for crab content then I apologize Wizzie. Recent happenings has made me somewhat paranoid.
Not sure what you mean by "loser", but it does sound like you're breaking Rule 4. As far as wizchan's definition of wizardry goes, being reclusive/non-social is almost as important as being celibate.
wageslaves are normalfags
A loser is anyone who thinks of themselves as a loser. IE a /dep/ poster. A bitter crab. These people aren't wizards. A hobo can be a bigger 'winner' than a bitter normalfag.
>>49978>thank god for fascist kingpin mods
have to agree with you on this one
this is the only site on the internet where we welcome the iron fist, with censorship being the norm and free speech for the select few.
some are forced to adapt. depending on your state you are able to tolerate going out to an environment that you almost become accustomed to, if the alternative is homelessness
Only the iron fist could keep out the normans out
Iron fist is a bitching gay faggot couldn't even save his fucking monk friends.
30% seems pretty accurate to me.
Yes, it's distressing. What did you expect though? Normalfags ruin everything. It's like a physical law of the universe.
The other problem is that real wizards tend to post far less frequently than the undesirables.
More than half of this chan are probably tourists and larpers
It's only because of summer things will get better when it's over.
Nearly nobody. Most of mods here are normalfags anyway.
People who do loser contests in /dep/ are usually i n c e ls or subhumans who equate being a virgin to being a loser