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b0cea No.50751

3d is already banned, now 2d is only left.
Make this a sacred place once and for all.

ab799 No.50753

Agreed. Pornography has no place on wizchan, a place for people who have rejected sex. Besides, there's no good reason to have porn-dumping threads when other websites exist for the purpose and fulfill it better.

cfcc4 No.50754

>>50751
>>50753
I will post porn just to harass you lol

71787 No.50755

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Yes.

Ban it all.

72bfb No.50756

>>50751
wow just wow, so many other things that need attention…
i'm shocked.

b634b No.50758

Clothed 2D hardly acceptable

3e86e No.50759

Ban all depictions of humans in general

7695c No.50760

All 2d porn is for all practical purposes restricted to one easily hidden thread that hasn't even been on the front page in a couple weeks.
It is in no way disruptive to the site so it doesn't need to be banned.
It isn't a problem that needs drastic measures to be fixed.
Just hit the [-] button once every 3 or 4 months and the problem is solved.

b0cea No.50762

Let's have a 3d porn general thread as well and make the people who don't like it hide it.

61c97 No.50763

>>50762
this is what mods think unironically

dab92 No.50765

i dont see the connection between 2d porn and having sex

this has been discussed to death in the past with nothing resulting from it

8668a No.50766

>>50765
There's no connection between 3D porn and having sex either. The problem is it's antithetical to the spirit of the site.

b0cea No.50767

>>50765
I don't see a connection between friends and having sex and yet it's still against the rules to post about your friends.
What is not against the rules is posting about the dildos you stuffed up your ass or describing what you fapped to.

>>50766
I don't know how to this day they haven't realized that porn has no place on Wizchan. I think they simply choose to turn a blind eye for who knows what reasons.

ac2f3 No.50768

Look, a non-2D centric wizardchan is just wrong on so many levels. I'm surprised how many people here want to distance the site from its anime imageboard origins.

9bce2 No.50769

>>50768
2D pornography and anime are two distinct things. Banning pornography will in no way prevent you from posting non-pornographic anime pictures.

0abf6 No.50784

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We've had multiple threads in the past about this but I don't think admin or mods have ever had the balls to put their tags on and explain why the fap thread should remain or counter arguments that users have brought up. It'd make sense to move it to /b/ IMO but even that is something they refuse to address.

Like other things I think it's just another case of 'we like it so it stays'. At least one mod posts in the fap thread frequently.

Also the criteria for how things get spoiled there is dependent on the current mood of the mods. Last thread, all furry gets spoiled, even mild hetero. Current fap thread that just got made, gay furry stays unspoiled because one of the mods is now starting to come around to it.


Lastly, and this is a tenuous connection, but the fap thread might be a way for the moderation to further control and datamine users. People like >>50760 will say "just hide it" but I think most smart people will have their browser settings such that cookies and other data will be destroyed when it closes (and possibly other add-ons for destroying cookies). In order for the fap thread to stay hidden you'd have to add an exception for this site. We've already seen that mods can and do view user cookies and other data under the pretense of rooting out ban evaders. So of course they'd have an interest in making as many people as possible keep cookies and data rather than destroying them. It helps them snoop more. And the fap thread is perfect for catching as many people as possible in this net, because plenty of browsers here want nothing to do with porn and sex and so will be driven to add an exception for wizchan just so they aren't ocularly assaulted whenever they open a new browser session and visit /lounge/.

f85f6 No.50785

At the very least all images in the fap thread should be spoilered.

fba0d No.50786

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>>50784
>Website relies on cookies
>"B-But I don't WANT to have cookies!! Change your site rules and code to appeal to ME and MY tastes you gay tranny faggot gangstalking retard furry pedo mods!!"

Wizchan used to allow 3D porn. We used to be able to post it in any thread. Now it's just 2D allowed and the users contain it to one thread by our own volition. The staff have already come to a middle-ground decision by only allowing 2D and the userbase themselves is making sure it stays in one thread. You're all shouting for a policy change after one has already been decided, with your only excuse for the current state being inconvenient is that YOU for some reason don't want to accept the cookies that are offered to make your browsing experience better. All of you metaburgers exhibit the most feminine trait of believing that "If I don't like it, everyone else must bend over backwards to appeal to me".

If you don't want the site maintainers to read the posts you submitted to them and be able to tie them together for the sake of contending rule breakers, then stop posting here.

>"put your mod tag on"

>anyone who disagrees with your paranoia and neediness is a gay tranny faggot gangstalking retard furry pedo mod

Of course, you don't actually think like this earnestly. You just saw someone make a post like that years in the past, saw it got a reaction from other users, and are now replicating it in an attempt to get attention at the expense other users, the mods, and a thread that's always been here. Your posts, and probably mine, are just elaborate roleplay shitposts. We're all madmen who get our kicks by acting like the kind of people we hate the most. Are you a mod?

69db0 No.50787

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>>50751
I agree wholeheartedly, i do not have an inherent problem with 2d porn. The reason it should be banned from wizchan is because there are a near infinite amount of other websites browse for porn. Wizchan deserves better than being another porn dump.

8668a No.50788

>>50786
No one said that it should be banned because "we don't like it". The argument is that it is antithetical to the spirit of the site. You've given us no counterargument to this other than a fallacious appeal to tradition.

cfcc4 No.50789

>>50788
'antithetical to the spirit of the site' doesn't have any inherent meaning, you can make claims that anything is antithetical to the spirit of the site, it's just an empty phrase added to the rules so that mods can remove anything they want without clear meaning.

8668a No.50790

>>50789
On what basis does rule 1 rest, if not the protection of the spirit of the site?

0abf6 No.50791

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>>50786
>"B-But I don't WANT to have cookies!! Change your site rules and code to appeal to ME and MY tastes you gay tranny faggot gangstalking retard furry pedo mods!!"

Nice strawman. I said nothing about removing cookies.
First of all mods shouldn't even be able to view that data, but that's another argument so I won't get into it now.
Secondly, I was just saying that it's in the interest of mods to have a more extreme thread like the fap one which will polarize some users who would normally destruct cookies upon exit into allowing them to continue to persist across multiple sessions. I personally never allow that, but I can imagine some users who get fed up with seeing smut when they hit the front page of /lounge/ just giving up and addign an exception.

Like I said this point is just speculation as to one of the likely reasons the fap thread is continued to allow to exist on /lounge/. I didn't intend it to be one of the arguments for the fap thread's removal.

>Wizchan used to allow 3D porn. We used to be able to post it in any thread. Now it's just 2D allowed and the users contain it to one thread by our own volition. The staff have already come to a middle-ground decision by only allowing 2D and the userbase themselves is making sure it stays in one thread. You're all shouting for a policy change after one has already been decided, with your only excuse for the current state being inconvenient is that YOU for some reason don't want to accept the cookies that are offered to make your browsing experience better.


Whole argument you're making here is that things are better now and administration has improved it in some way from the last iteration of the site, so now nothing should be changed. This is bullshit. There have been multiple implicit changes in policy in the past, such as banishing threads for offsite chatrooms like cytube over to /b/. There's no reason to just complacently sit and accept that a porn thread can be allowed on /lounge/ forever, just because it was decided in the past.

Also you're talking about 'our' volition as if anyone who disagrees with the fap thread being on /lounge/ is some secondary citizen whose opinion doesn't matter and isn't part of whatever fucking secret agreement you and your pals seem to be a part of. We've had multiple threads on this topic for years and I don't see why the opinions of users here who want it gone should be ignored, especially when they give reasons for it to be gone.

>All of you metaburgers exhibit the most feminine trait of believing that "If I don't like it, everyone else must bend over backwards to appeal to me".


Well people have made multiple arguments about why the thread should be removed, or at least banished to /b/. And you seem to be working off the assumption that the majority of the userbase supports the fap thread and that those who oppose it are a minority, which we don't know is true.

>If you don't want the site maintainers to read the posts you submitted to them and be able to tie them together for the sake of contending rule breakers, then stop posting here.


Well this is irrelevant to the whole argument but it's basically just a "fuck off and leave" response to any criticism, which is pretty pathetic.

>>"put your mod tag on"


Where did I say this? I pointed out that mods and the admin have never been active in giving reasons for the fap thread continuing to exist or countering arguments made by users. The closest thing I can remember to any participation in this discussion is the 2D vs. 3D poll that took place years ago. I don't see how asking administration for the reasons a policy exists is comparable to one-line shitposting.

>Of course, you don't actually think like this earnestly. You just saw someone make a post like that years in the past, saw it got a reaction from other users, and are now replicating it in an attempt to get attention at the expense other users, the mods, and a thread that's always been here. Your posts, and probably mine, are just elaborate roleplay shitposts. We're all madmen who get our kicks by acting like the kind of people we hate the most. Are you a mod?


Well now you're just trying to make this whole discussion into some little circus where everyone is playing a character, so no one has to take anything seriously or question policies on the site. I am playing no such character. I'm just pointing out facts I've gathered and some of the conclusions I've come to based on years of seeing this same topic brought up and ignored by administration every time.

Btw you're a little too obsessed with the whole 'gay tranny faggot gangstalking retard furry pedo mod' thing.

cfcc4 No.50792

>>50790
The rules are the rules, 'antithetical to the spirit of the site' is just some empty phrase that doesn't really mean anything beyond everyone's personal interpretation of it, which makes it useless because it will never have a solid meaning when it's just a purely emotional statement.

8668a No.50793

>>50792
But how are the rules justified? Why are these rules good and just for a site like Wizardchan?

cfcc4 No.50794

>>50793
The rules don't have to be justified

8668a No.50795

>>50794
Are you saying that the rules were just arbitrarily decided? Like say through a lottery? It certainly doesn't seem that way. There is a definite pattern of reasoning behind the rules of Wizchan.

b0cea No.50796

>>50795
Don't argue or try to reason with retards. His post should've told you enough of who he is as person.

cfcc4 No.50797

>>50795
The rules are clear expectations for the users of this site, it doesn't matter how they were decided, I don't know what you're trying to get at.

0a798 No.50799

It would be nice if any depictions of dicks/tits/cunts to be posted spoiled on the porn thread. I don't even want it banned anymore, sometimes people post weird and interesting content in there. Still, it would be nice if those parts were spoiled-enforced.

dab92 No.50800

>>50766
posting 2d porn isn't against the rules. i feel the need to remind everyone of this. you are perfectly capable of hiding the fap thread once per month. if youre whining about /b/, well tough shit, what do you expect from that board

3d porn is against the rules. having sex is against the rules. one connection is that they are both not allowed

posting 2d porn doesnt mean someone wants to have sex with someone, and is not against the rules, so i dont get how its against the spirit


>>50767
posting about friends is simply against the rules. it has nothing to do with sex necessarily, it doesnt matter 'why' anyway, it is not allowed



i dont care either way im just conservative to wizchan meaning i want it to not change. just say you dont want to see 2d porn here, be honest or something. it has a better chance at changing the rules

8668a No.50801

>>50800
I'm not sure your post has any relevance since we're saying that 2D porn should be banned, not that it is banned. We think that 2D porn should be banned for the same reason that 3D is currently banned. Yes, rules exist for a reason, they aren't just random commandments some mod thought up on a whim. Pornography goes against the spirit of wizchan because wizchan is a place for those of us who have decided not to pursue sex or social integration. Obsessing over sex by posting pornography goes against that spirit.

dab92 No.50802

>>50801
just making it clear that 2d porn is allowed. every post here is talking about it so negatively, as if it was bannable

posting 2d porn does not mean you want to have sex with someone. if it did, it would have been made against the rules already

if you want less 'socially integrated' wizard posts, then you would want the rules changed to disallow mentioning friendships. or wafeslaving. or university. any of those are more indicative of a normal life, of normalfags, than just posting 2d porn

b0cea No.50823

delete this thread mods, I no longer give a fuck, nothing will change.



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