42ec4 No.53791[Last 50 Posts]
Wizchan was always meant to be a place for certain people,people that is mostly depressed all the time,people that was rejected by society,people that have several mental issues,the rule about "being a male virgin" was meant to be some kind of reference to appeal to that kind of people,after all if you're a virgin at 25/30/40 while the vast majority of the population isn't there must be some kind of issue with you,you're not "normal",for any kind of reason you deviate from the "normality", you're an exception,and the virginity rule was made to open the door for that kind of people.
Now during the past years wizchan has been going the other way,successful people that have nothing to do with the wizchan culture post here all the time,they're successful,they're handsome,they're not depressed,not rejected by society, they are everything that a wizard is not supposed to be,and they are all tolerated because they are "virgins" or so they claim,we opened the door to "virgin" chads that share none of the qualities that a wizard was supposed to be,and we can't do anything because moderation always says "well they are virgins" and the chads say "well being a wizard is not the same as being a fucking loser lol".
The "virgins only" rule now seems like a joke instead of a way to keep normalfags away,like some kind of "thematic club" whose only point in common is that everyone is a virgin,nothing more,we don't share interests,we don't share lifestyles the only thing we "share" is the fact that we are virgins (if we even believe the chads that say so) now wizchan is full of people that wasn't here 5 years ago, gays,trannies,improvebrahs and just plain chads,but everything is ok because they are virgins,fucking Barron Trump can come and post here saying that he's a wizard because he's probably a virgin,this isn't right.
Honestly I don't know how we can fix this,it may be too late already,this place is normalfag infested now,and everyone keeps looking the other way around because "hey they are virgins so they can stay" wizardchan was not like this 5 or 6 years ago,wizchan was nice when we had /v9k/ and all that because it was still new and fresh,you knew you were posting with people that was just like you,now I don't know,I feel like I'm posting in a place full of normalfags with the difference that they can't mention their girlfriends.
I don't really believe they are even virgins. Nothing about their posts is in any way distinguishable from the arch-normalfags found everywhere else:
- just like other normalfags they bully and harass wizards at every chance
- just like other normalfags they flaunt having easy access to seks to try to provoke negative responses from actual virgins so they can accuse virgins of jealousy
- just like other normalfags they can't stop bragging about how they bullied losers at school, how much money they have, their possessions, their looks, skills, athletic prowess, party attendance, drug use, really every attribute that a normalfag normally uses to try to elevate himself above people he calls losers
- just like other normalfags they have extremely developed social skills (making it extremely likely that they just post about "totally being a virgin hey bros" just to fit in) and also seem to have strong social organization and a seemingly "magical" ability to coordinate their responses and follow people around threads and boards.
- just like in the normalfag invasions of other boards, whenever someone complains about them they appear en masse and start crying about how "this was always our board", "_____chan was never for fucking crab losers lmao", "we were always here bragging about this and that"
- just like every other normalfag on the internet their go-to all-purpose putdown for any male they want to call a loser is "crabs". The sole purpose of throwing this insult around is as an attack on other posters' sexual abilities (as if it's relevant here).
There is nothing that distinguishes these arch-groids from every other turbo-normie on the internet other than that the rules here force them to skirt around how much seks they have instead of openly bragging about it. Really, what are the odds of being exactly like a normalfag in every conceivable way except for not having seks? Even if they are, does it matter? There's no reason they couldn't get on just as well at any of the sites they came from, while their presence here turns those places into copies of where they came from.
At this rate it's just a matter of time until we reach the wizchad 2021 post-virginity era, when they will rewrite history to read "wizards were never loser virgins lmao" "wizardry always meant having powerful seksgetting skills"
I was looking through the old wizchan archives from 2013 (when it was called wizardchan.org not just wizchan,and we had /v9k/) and while some people may call them crabs now at least they were honest about it,they complained about >tfwnogf a lot but at least they were losers just like you and me,I would rather have those people back than the chads we have now that brag about everything.
Well, being a virgin past 30 is the only solid criteria at the moment isn't it? The other seem to be as fluid as the person spouting them.
Why don't you make a list of precise dogmas you think a person must adhere to in order to remain here? Because the problem is usually the degrees, user#1 might say he talked to someone about something, then user#2 gets upset because user#1 was social while user#2 in fact haven't talked to anyone in 8000 years so obviously user#1 should leave. User#1 owns a motorbike, user#2 doesn't, in fact he's not interested in motorbikes at all, he even finds them intimidating and so he thinks user#1 should leave. This is a sliding scale between two extremes and every user has it's own point on this scale for what they think is ok, so on and on it goes, eien ni.
From my personal vantage point, what dogmas would I like to impose? 3 for starters.
1: NO ONE under 30, what the fuck are all these little 20-something kindergarten shits even doing here? It's called wizchan, and you're a wiz when you're virgin past 30, period.
2: You should be cool with /jp/, that way you ascertain everyone will have a common interest
3: No porn, no homo/furry/lewdshit, adios to any fapthread
Personally, I think, if you like life, not just enjoy it but approve of the thing, you should fuck off. Absolutely no one on the site should be a pronatalist.
You know, there's a rules section at the top.
It's not like anyone actually bothers to read the rules these days or lurks to get to know the board.
Well surely the rules section isn't anywhere near sufficient for OPs tastes else he wouldn't have needed to start this thread.
The virgin only rule has served to keep some of the more normal people away from the site, perhaps out of fear someone found out they posted here or maybe it just turns them against the people here with typical prejudice, but beyond that it's useless and detracting. According to the rules, an 18 year old virgin with no issues beyond that would be allowed to post here but a 45 year old lifetime NEET with a host of other issues would be banned because they had sex a single time 27 years ago. The absurdity of this rule is highlighted further when you consider people who have been sexually assaulted as children and lost their virginity against their will.
Virginity is a symptom of a greater problem, it isn't a core issue of the type of people that one would want posting here and I doubt there are many people here above the age of 25 who think their life will be fixed by sticking their dick in a hole for a short amount of time, otherwise they would have hired a prostitute.
The problem is, what else would you replace the rule with? You could say that 'Wizchan is a site for retarded losers' and have a similar effect, but it could be taken ironically. 'Wizchan is a site for abnormal people' is too unspecific. At this point trying to change the rule would likely attract a bunch of idiot 18 year olds trying to defend it because there's no other way for them to prove they are different from other people than their virginity. It would also negate the whole wizard thing but that's besides the point.
>>53791>now wizchan is full of people that wasn't here 5 years ago>gays,trannies,improvebrahs and just plain chads>wasn't here 5 years ago
Selective memory or a liar, I've browsed this place for 6 years and can tell you that is not true in the slightest.
I don't care about who posts or whether they're a virgin or not I'd just prefer they'd avoid talking about their successful social life, wealth, their successes, becoming a father or other shit and pick on people who don't want to improve or doesn't feel any pleasure.
I think yesterday I saw someone post a video about a guy shouting at viewers for 15 mins straight about how they can never improve with their life no matter how many advice videos they watch because they never care to change on a fundamental level to follow up with those advice.
Where's that hikki pic from? looks comfy.
>butthurt in-cels, v9k/dep losers wanting to erase the rest of wizchan
/dep/ is only a minority, a horrible minority, always been that way. Back to your containment board and take your envy, bitterness and inferiority complexes with you, thanks.
This is exactly what I mean,people like you should be instantly banned from this place,you don't belong here,if you want to behave like you're in fucking facebook or 4chan you're a fucking chad using the "but I'm a successful,well-adjusted virgin,wizardry is not the same as being a fucking loser lol" argument.
>>53811>Wizardchan is an image-based forum (imageboard) for male virgins where they can share their thoughts, vent, and discuss their interests and lifestyle as a virgin. It inherits many of the attributes the characterizes the popular 4chan imageboard. However, in contrast to other imageboards, Wizardchan caters exclusively to male virgins who may be a NEET or hikikomori, and who may be afflicted by physical or mental illnesses such as depression and social anxiety.
Again, where does it say that only bitter losers can post here? Enlighten me.
>but I'm a successful,well-adjusted virgin
But I'm not successful or well-adjusted? And I don't care if people like that post here as long as they are friendless male virgins and neither should you care.
>Uwaaahhh, wizchan is infested with normalfags! Mods don't do anything!
Okay, stop browsing wizchan if you don't like it.
>Uhh, it's become a habit of mine, I can't stop coming back
Stop complaining then.
>B-but WE as a COMMUNITY of VIRGINS need to do something!
There are only two people in the thread who agree with you.
>*someone else makes another thread about the same shit 2 weeks later*
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Saw through your flesh
Defending groids should be a bannable offense as well. I know you think you are le epic trolls but you are just edgy teens.
Also agree with >>53791>>53793>>53796
This anti-wizard culture needs to stop because the site is a complete joke.
All true. It really went downhill after sadmin sold it. Current admin even got rid of the no friends rule.
You look at the shit that people get away with on /b/, and yeah I'm starting to believe this site is just a huge joke.
So the dude looks alright, big deal? This is lookism, the kind of shit I expect from /r9k/. I’m not attractive myself but ffs, I’d like to think the culmination of my entire existence has more to do with flaws in my character than “a few milimeters of bone”
He was a massive normalfag too,not even a virgin for what we know,but you're probably a newfag tourist that may never heard about Glaive before so…
And you'd think hes handsome lol. Everybody looks nice with basic grooming, if you're not eggman tier you can look better than this with a haircut and a trim.
Yeah jus get a haircut bruh and b urself,only true wizards are ugly lol,poor losers LMAO.
>>53823>>53793>At this rate it's just a matter of time until we reach the wizchad 2021 post-virginity era, when they will rewrite history to read "wizards were never loser virgins lmao
It already happened>>53804>>53810>>53813>>53823>>53825
If Neagan lost some weight and grew a lil bit of a beard he would be more handsome than that John.Unironically.
Pretty sure this guy doesn't actually have real eyebrows. If anything's likely it's that he's been faking them by gluing hair shavings from his head on to where they ought to be, albeit a little lower than normal. Does anybody know why the mods don't ever bring this up?
Yeah, I don't really get why there's such a big population of successful bullies here. It's weird that /dep/ is made out to be a fringe minority when most /wiz/ threads contain elements of people being pretty unhappy.
It just feels like the successful normie-passing people like to punch down if people don't pretend they don't have serious problems and don't just talk about nerdy hobbies they may share. It's the epitome of the mainstreaming of nerd culture.
Dude looks dressed for a social event. It's also no not everyone can look better. It's facial structure. Neagan's facial structure isn't as optimal.
agreed. I can assure you all that normies aren't using this site. Normies don't even know about this site, people on 4chan don't even know about this site. Your Prestigious Kingdom is not even known about by most. Just enjoy the site for what it is. Virgin or not, If you're a socially inept loser that wants good discussion on a chan site, than this place is for you.
"shouldn't care about the people who post here">gives the whole /dep/ board shit
I agree that somebody who happened to have sex once under some very particular circumstances should probably be able to post here but if sex is at all a mundane part of your life, even with prostitutes then you really ought to find another place.
>>53836>I agree that somebody who happened to have sex once under some very particular circumstances should probably be able to post here
Wizchan 2020. Go back to discord, mongoloid teens.
You’re the one who needs to fuck off if you think sex is that important
I can't even fathom how the opportunity to have sex even arises. How is it you consensual put your penis into another person? What type of person can do that? They don't have to be attractive but they must pursue it. They must be social they likely have friends.
And if you can think like that you are nothing like me
Yeah, I don't really know of any asocial people that have sex. A few ugly guys I knew from chatrooms had sex but they usually had to fly in emotionally fragile or ugly ones succubi. One guy was like 21 and moved to Iowa to be with his 14 year old e-gf.
This was like over 10 years ago at this point.
What sort of sealed the deal for me in terms of knowing I was a severe outlier in social dysfunction is that even the enginerds/comp sci geeks in university(8 years ago) had social lives and sex. I was just a dumb introvert nerd who spent all his time online .
I spent 8 months in the psych ward two years ago. While there, a crazy bipolar succubus solicited me. I guess I would have just had to say “yes” in that situation instead of having a panic attack and telling on her. Not that I would have, since I am opposed to sex as an antinatalist. but still, if something like that happened to one of us at 18 or something, then I would wonder what the relevance would be.
Being a virgin is a stigma used by the cruel to belittle and hurt. Even if you're a mega depressed hermit, having had sex one time 40 years prior, you are no longer subject to the abuses accompanying this stigma. You are free of the baggage of the condition though you may have forgotten it.
Wizchan is for virgin men of an age deemed unacceptably high by society to commiserate with one another without virginity being viciously used against them. If sex-havers were allowed, there would soon develop two antagonist factions on wizchan and eventually the actual wizards would be pushed out by sex-havers due to abuse, disgust, and simple outnumbering. The quality of content and discourse would then take a nosedive.
The virginity aspect is most essential to wizchan. It's at the heart of the site identity. It's embedded in the name. Stop trying to wreck this place further.
To add to this, it seems like a kind of small justice that sex-havers are forced to pretend to be virgins to post here while so many wizards have to pretend to be sex-havers in order to avoid being bullied everywhere else outside the monastery.
This thread…seriously, shut wizchan down already. The anti-natalist/dep/v9k faction is absolute cancer, you are killing this site. If you want to talk about how untalented and pathetic you are then go to some forum on the Internet where you can bitch all you want and suck Ligotti's dick all day.
Wizchan has never been anything other than a site for male virgins. Stop forcing your crap definition of truewiz onto everyone.
If this clique won't stop then I request the admin to kill place. If not, then ban these shitposters already with their "you should be able to post here even if you aren't a virgin as long as you are a loser hehe :^)".
never been made fun of for being a virgin to be honest
Probably because you are a normal. Or you never mentioned it anywhere.
I'm not saying that we should get rid of the virginity rule,I'm saying that it was a mistake to use it as the only parameter to allow someone to post here.
a 18 year old virgin may be a successful handsome chad with a great job,tons of friends,hobbies and absolutely no mental problems,basically a full fledged normalfag since being a virgin at 18 is not that uncommon, this is the kind of poster that posts shit like "Just do exercise bruh I play x sport profesionally and it makes me so much happier" "I'm handsome and successful and lots of succubi have been attracted to me in the past" or the classic "being a wizard is not the same as being a loser lol"
Compare that with an ugly 30 year old NEET wizard with no friends that was rejected by society and basically spends his entire live on escapism.
For wizchan rules both of these guys are the same,both are virgins so they can post here.
As I said there's no way something like this can be fixed,normalfags love to cosplay as virgin losers,unless we investigate the life of every single wizchan poster before giving the right to post there's just nothing to do.
>>53851>successful>handsome>with a great job>hobbies>absolutely no mental problems
So again, why do these bother you if said poster doesn't have friends and is a virgin? Sounds like an extreme case of sour grapes.
But let me turn this around: you would be okay with someone who is generally considered as a failure by society (drug addict or a criminal for example), is ugly, has a horrible job or none at all, no hobbies and several mental problems even if he is a non-virgin? I really get the impression that you are trying to make this place into a hugbox for losers, which it never was. It was always about male virgins coming together and discussing things, even if they had different backgrounds and experiences. So for the Xth time, fuck off to some place where you can whine about how miserable you are - oh wait, we have /dep/ for that reason. Shut up already.
Dude, you’ve never just lied about your virginity? Normies don’t expect a detailed account of what sex feels like to believe you did it once.
>>53852>that you are trying to make this place into a hugbox for losers, which it never was
Yes it was and still is. Stop trying to rewrite history you dumb faggot, we have a board just for depression, this site is clearly not for well-adjusted people. You're the asshole who'd be cool with Fortune 500 CEOs posting on wizchan talking about their latest multimillion dollar deal as long as they claim to be le epic virgin. no pee pee in vagina = always welcome here, other rules and culture be damned.
>…even if he is a non-virgin?
This is a retarded red herring because non virgins aren't allowed to post here.
> It was always about male virgins coming together and discussing things, even if they had different backgrounds and experiences
Oh really, are you the admin of this site? No? Then stop trying to tell everyone else here the purpose of this site.
>>53854>I want a hugbox
it is weird that someone with a well adjusted social life posts here even if they are virgin. i am totally lost in life/have never had any friends or a job, and i thought that was the only sort of person that posts here. but turns out there are a lot of semi-normal people here who just happen to be virgins so they don't get banned.
>>53856>but turns out there are a lot of semi-normal people here who just happen to be virgins so they don't get banned.
That's because they're too much of losers to be real normalfags so they come here and try to bully NEETs and societal rejects. Just last month or the month before someone was telling wizards to get "real" jobs. I don't post here much anymore so I couldn't tell you if that's been happening more and more but it wouldn't surprise me.
If the only criterion to post here is being a virgin then basically 40% of the population between 18-20 would be able to poat here regardless of everything else,we could have turbo normalfags that go to parties everyday with their rich friends but still claim to be "wizards" at heart because they haven't put a penis in vagina,do you think that those people fits within the wizchan culture?
Also have you ever fucking seen the banners? do you think that a place that has a banner like this should welcome those kind of people? Almost all banners refer to depression/desperation/failure one way or the other and you still say that "being a wizard is not the same as being a loser"?
Fuck you get the fuck out you revisionist asshole.
Kill yourself, kiwinigger
i stopped complaining about this shit like 5 years ago. if you really think this is supposed be some truecel-ultra-loner-born-to-die-virgin forum you are very naive indeed.
its either a kiwifarms zoo, or a high-brow tohno-chan-like attempt at having a imageboard devoid of sexual discussion, for people (mostly succubi i assume) who get triggered at the site of people discussing sex or relationships.
it is what it is, there is 0% in arguing about anything because the mods dont give a fuck about you, if you say anything out of line they will just gestapo entire threads
its fucked up and stupid but i rarely come here anymore
Whoever made a half dozen posts in this thread getting irrationally mad and saying shit like "butthurt in-cels, v9k/dep losers wanting to erase the rest of wizchan" needs to shut the fuck up. There are plenty of other places you can go to talk about your autistic hobbies/interests, and guess what, there's no difference in the discussion regardless of if the posters are virgins or not. Virginity doesn't define anything outside if someone had sex or not, it's ridiculous to act like it defines a type of person. The average adult virgin is normal by all standards, usually they are below the age of 20 and have few problems. Nearly all of them have friends and are free from depression.
Those people are not what this site is intended for, Wizchan was created specifically to cater to older adult virgins with greater issues, hence the term wizard. There is little overlap between this group and the aforementioned one. Quite frankly, you pretending there are a bunch of successful, well adjusted, 30 year old virgins that don't have major issues is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. The average wizard will have more in common with another autistic loser 30 year old who had sex once than an 18-22 year old who happens to be a virgin like millions of other people that age.
Yeah, this is what I don't get. There are plenty of art websites where you can post drawings without any sex talk being involved. With stuff like math, even less sex involved than with art.
It just feels like people post here so they can feel superior even though they also tell the people they consider inferior to shut up. I think there's a sort of pleasure from doing it since they know most people will keep complaining if they feel like it.
I think at times, when someone gets told to shut up about something and is considered a whiney little crybaby, it's a bit like an eskimo seeing a westerner complaining that it's so god damn cold when it's -10, while the eskimo quietly endures a regular -30, or someone at a hospital incessantly complaining about their ingrown toenail while the guy listening is laying there with spine cancer. It irritates.
The “successful” well-adjusted posters are not virgins. Even though we’ve had a few cases like this over the years they still have bootlickers defending them for whatever reason.
Read the rules, and as >>53858
said observe the banners, they all point in a general direction as to the kind of users we should have here. >>53862
This is the kind of divisive true volcel monk larper shit that should die already. This dichotomy doesn’t apply to some of us, because we’re both vol and inc.els in a way if you will. I personally didn’t consciously made up my mind as a teenager or young adult that “im going to remain celibate forever and role play as thomas aquinas!!” and I wasn’t desperate to fit in and have relationships either, because it seemed impossible, unnatural and undesirable to me anyhow.
desperate in.cels may be pathetic, but at least they’re genuine, self-defined volcels monks are phony morons.
Well, I think that's a sort of aspirational tendency in terms of the bootlicking if they truly aren't virgins. People want to believe they can be "well-adjusted" as well.
I don't really get what's so unique about being a virgin if people don't even typically think you are one. The reason being a virgin sets people apart is because it's typically associated with not being in tune with the rest of their social environment.
It's also there's always the whole "failed normie" trope when tbh I don't think most of us wanted to live normal lifestyles. Only reason I'm bitter is I don't really have any leverage in a fairly cutthroat social system. I've always seen "growing up" and doing "adult stuff" like having a job, acting mature, etc. as being boring as fuck.
There was even a mental health shaming post in another topic. It's weird people wouldn't expect people who are far apart from society to have neuroses and shit from interacting with it.
this is the truth by the way
i haven argued about this place 4eva
i dgaf at all, i just think its funny people still argue about it when the deal is already done
Something something crystal cafe, this place is only good for shitposting lol
In my experience normans, notably wageslaves, favorite topic is sex and relationshits.
>>53854>Stop trying to rewrite history you dumb faggot
You are the one requesting change in the rules, not me. I guess this is telling who is the one who tries to rewrite history.>we have a board just for depression
One board, on the other hand we have several other boards. You are a minority, accept it. /dep/ has always been a contamination board for your kind of trash, be grateful you are even allowed to be here.>You're the asshole who'd be cool with Fortune 500 CEOs posting on wizchan talking about their latest multimillion dollar deal as long as they claim to be le epic virgin. no pee pee in vagina = always welcome here, other rules and culture be damned.
Again, what is exactly wrong with being rich or successful? Give me a clear answer or stop whining.
"Other rules and culture be damned" - cries the faggot who wants to change the rules and culture of the site to allow /r9k/ in here. Pff.>This is a retarded red herring because non virgins aren't allowed to post here.
Are you conscious of the fact that you are arguing for letting non-virgins to post here? I know you are semi-trolling but at least put more effort into it, please. And you didn't answer my question at all. Answer or shut up.>Oh really, are you the admin of this site? No? Then stop trying to tell everyone else here the purpose of this site.
Like you trying to tell others the purpose of this site, righto? And you are lucky indeed I'm not the admin here, otherwise you pathetic in-cels would have been permabanned long ago, you would be gone along with your r9-I mean /dep/ board.>>53858>do you think that those people fits within the wizchan culture?
Learn to read properly. I asked what is the problem with letting successful/etc. people posting here given they are male virgins and have no friends. Male virgins who have no desire to have sex and to have friends are all welcome here.>the banners
Literally no argument. You picked out a specific kind of banner but there are plenty which display wizardry as a positive thing.>you revisionist asshole
Again, says the imbecile who whines about changing the rules.>>53868>There are plenty of other places you can go to talk about your autistic hobbies/interests, and guess what, there's no difference in the discussion regardless of if the posters are virgins or not.
You are welcome to fuck off to the many other places on the net where you can discuss how much of a loser you are and how bitter you are. There are many sites for in-cels like you, literally the whole internet offers a sanctuary for losers like you.>Virginity doesn't define anything outside if someone had sex or not, it's ridiculous to act like it defines a type of person.
Partially right, as evidenced by you r9k/dep homosexuals. Virginity alone isn't enough, one needs to be a voluntary celibate in order to be a wizard. No matter how you look at it, three types of people exist: normals, crabs and volcels. In-cels like you are very close to normals, in fact you wouldn't like anything better than to get rid of your virginity.>Wizchan was created specifically to cater to older adult virgins
That is why the required age has always been 18, right? Makes sense.>you pretending there are a bunch of successful, well adjusted, 30 year old virgins that don't have major issues is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard
It's not a pretension, otherwise this thread would not exist. Inferior and bitter crabs wants to ban wizards who have it better than them, this is the revenge of r9-I mean dep.>The average wizard will have more in common with another autistic loser 30 year old who had sex once
And you are free to leave for any other chans or r9k spawns that exist, I'm sure you will fit right in there. You could comfortably post about how miserable you are and how much you hate others who have it better than you there. But sites made for actual wizards are very rare, even non-existent I would say, aside from wizchan.> an 18-22 year old who happens to be a virgin like millions of other people that age
I would rather have a successful, rich, pretty boy, 18 yo friendless volcel posting here than some 36 yo autistic loser who either desperately wants to have sex/friends or had them before.
People who are not depressed or have no serious issues and keep posting here use this site as some kind of cult or club for people that don't want to be seen "weak" by having relationships,most of the original userbase kind of wanted to have a gf and they were hopelessly unable to get one (refer to wayback machine if you don't believe it) even if revisionist shits dislike it the original site was actually a spin off of /v9k/ with most of the same topics,but directed at people with emotional/mental problems and oh so ronery issues,most oldwizzies may remember the >tfwnogf ever tagline on /v9k/, then somehow those people transformed in " hardcore wizards" (or maybe new people who wasn't aware of the culture jumped in) that think that any kind of relationship makes people weak and feel somehow superior by not having to depend on others to survive.
It's all very strange really,this place was actually an in-cel site at first,then the original site died,and this shitty site took its place,then people started hating relationships themselves for no good reason,except maybe to feel superior,ironically encyclopedia dramatica has a good summary of the whole thing,I suggest you to read it.https://encyclopediadramatica.wiki/index.php/Wizardchan#Death_of_Wizardchan
*The original site was a spin off of /r9k/ (hence the name /v9k/)
This is the kind of revisionist shit I talked about,people like this jumped in sometime in 2016-2017 without ever knowing the history of the old wizardchan,it may be surprising for you but the original wizardchan (not this shitty place that banned memes and pretty much everything that made the original enjoyable) has a /r9k/ vibe all over the place,even pepes and wojaks were allowed,I invite you to go to (https://web.archive.org/web/20130701000000*/wizardchan.org
) and see for yourself.
You claim to defend wizchan from crabs and losers without even knowing that the original wizardchan was made with those people in mind,not for hypocrite monks like you that decided to be virgin and pure since the womb and look down on people who are not as "tough" as you.
You are a tourist that came once and decided to stay,and not only that decided to destroy the original meaning of wizchan and wizardry,you're the people who wants "open borders" for every single 18 year old virgin with Facebook and instagram accounts,tons of friends and an active social life,for you "wizardry" is just a funny concept,like "oh my virginity is something I should protect" as if virginity automatically made you a better person or allowed you to achieve new heights (guess what that isn't true),there's literally no advantage of being a virgin,you could have sex and you would be the exact same guy,virginity is not a gift to be protected,but a symptoms of very deep issues, the original userbase wasn't happy about being virgins AT ALL.
>>53877>There are many sites for in-cels like you
I'm not an "in-cel", stupid. Your attempt to take the voluntarily celibate banner and pretend your worthless opinion represents the group is as petty as it is retarded, along with your attempt to slur me with insults that wouldn't even be clever if said by a child. >That is why the required age has always been 18
That's why the site has 'wiz' in the title, you fucking retard. Of course it caters to wizards. Everyone else is tolerated, providing they are wiz-like. >I would rather have a successful, rich, pretty boy, 18 yo friendless volcel posting here
Literally no one cares what you would like. I was speaking about the average wizard which you don't represent. You have to samefag in this thread and create walls of text, it's painfully clear few people share your view. At least now you're not being disingenuous by creating separate posts for each reply. With this much effort you are expending, why don't you just start your own website and invite your imaginary group of successful, rich, handsome, and socially capable wizards? Your very own place your delusions.
>>53883>why don't you just start your own website and invite your imaginary group of successful, rich, handsome, and socially capable wizards?
If one were to seek for such a place, what would be the closest thing currently available?
That sounds like Facebook tbh
I don't know, maybe some IRC group filled with narcissistic boomers that have never gotten laid yet believe the are successful because they have some bullshit well paying IT job and can manage to carry on conversations with their coworkers who get paid to associate with them. That's probably the type of person who would come here and try to disparage others.
For these people being a virgin is just some endurance exercise. "Yeah bro I was at that party with Stacy, she wanted to fuck but I didn't do it so I can keep posting on an obscure forum for male virgins." It's completely nonsensical. The people that are virgins here are usually virgins because their first sexual experience never happened. Maybe they were deliberately not around succubi, maybe they had no interest, or maybe they wanted it but it never came. This guy is trying to weasel in "Yeah, you can lead a 100% normalfag life but since I claim to be a virgin, it's ok." If the only requirement is being a virgin or pretending to be a virgin, why even bother? You can just lie and just act like /soc/ in all other respects. This board isn't just about being a virgin.
>virginity is not a gift to be protected,but a symptoms of very deep issues, the original userbase wasn't happy about being virgins AT ALL.
You hit the nail on the head. I don't know where these improvebrah shitters keep coming from that think as long as you claim to be a virgin you can do literally anything and you fit in. Although I more blame admin for not making this clear and also getting rid of that test that used to be here. Anyways as usual no resolution will come of this, the mods are just sitting here laughing at this autism.
Yeah, this is the closest thing. A bunch of IT/Engineers. Probably on occasion, we'd have a more corporate one better looking one who got a finance job.
I don't understand the psychology of it but crab communities are full of fake virgins too. I remember looking at one of their forums quite regularly and people with thousands of posts eventually got shown to have had girlfriends or sex. Not just one, their top posters were nearly all banned for lying. It's no surprise we had it in the history of this place.
The internet is just becoming entertainment for normans like everything else.
The problem is as it has always been the racist, misogynistic conservatives who strongly adhere to normalfag values but are virgins because they repel succubi. They are keyboard warriors fighting their cultural battle to instill normalfaggot values because they somehow think it makes them superior to the "niggers" which they circlejerk about ad nauseum on /pol/ and other places. As long as they convince themselves they are not on the bottom rung of society, they will keep supporting the normalfag order and just keep trying to prop up their failing self esteem by attacking those they view as beneath them. I bet these "chads" are most of the time just lying and boasting so they can feel good about themselves. They are basically just pathetic narcissists imo, not successful enough at gathering enough narcissistic supply to get sex, but they keep trying their best in the only way their twisted hearts can manage, by attacking and belittling others. You know the second any succubus does open their legs for them they will instantly take the opportunity to have sex because they view it as validation in the normalfag order which they desperately crave.
We should not let right wingers (whom all of which are anti-neet, failed norma crabs that break rule 4) on this website.
all politics is fucking cancer, don't think yourself any better just because they are more popular atm
refusing to question, criticize, and understand the world is a fundamentally conservative position and this anti-intellectual position is why right-wing crabs are so prolific in spaces like this. Wizards should be philosophers and seek knowledge, not wallow in ignorance.
Wizards should be /pol/ because the jews promote breeding among the goyim. We don't need the whole site to be full of posadists.
i am liberal because there are too many right-wingers these days. it started out as people pretending to be conservative so they could trigger SJW, but now its easy to trigger /pol/tards
i have gone back to the 2000s himmy swaggart westboro baptist church days, i remember the Ron Paul days and the Zeitgeist days
>>53895>wizards should do x
no. both pol and whatever you are, all politics, you can leave it in the trash i dont want it
I don't fit the typical wizard phenotype. I have no hate for people who do, but thats not me.
I've been coming here since 2013…I've never been to a place where I find so much in common with people, even though we may have nothing in common in the real world. I do very much HATE brag posts, but it does not happen that much here that it has became an issue in my opinion.
I do not agree with your criticism, but it is your pessimism that keeps the culture of wizchan in check and I appreciate you for that.
Okay, just realize that this so-called "apolitical" position is just an acquiescence to the ruling class and their ideology. You are essentially saying to just accept the shit situation you're in, don't try to change it and don't complain (hyper-conservatives would even say to worship this hierarchical social circumstance). It is not a neutral position, but a conservative one.
Video related on Antonio Gramsci's theory of cultural hegemony and the passive consent to be ruled and dominated. Very relevant to this.
Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up and go to the politics thread if you want to spew this garbage.
>>53902>>53902>I don't fit the typical wizard phenotype.
So you're a failed normie?
I've been on old wizardchan too, I know about it. Just a few thoughts:
1. It was mostly /v9k/ that sucked back then too (what a coincidence that it was /dep/'s predecessor), that horrible board brought the quality down considerably, not to mention they had a negative effect on the other boards too.
2. Non-virgins weren't allowed to post here back then either, so it is curious why your clique wants to abolish the virgins only rule…
3. Wizard culture wasn't born until we started to ban r9k memes, tfwnogf posters, porn and the like. Like you said, it was mostly r9k back then but with virgins only. When the changes been applied, that's when real wizard culture was born. The rules against crabs are what made this site BETTER than other chans, that is why wizchan still exists in fact.
4. It wasn't the mods/a minority who wanted the old v9k-wizardchan to disappear, most people here were for the changes and expressed their support for the anti-r9k rules.
So again, if you want to be with your fellow in-cels then you can find some other place easily, so fuck off. On the other hand, chans/sites for volcels are extremely rare or non-existent at all, this is why wizchan is great.>The new mods are more interested in the idea of wizardry as a philosophical mindset>it became about a philosophy where the enlightened man avoids sexual relationships or even friends to pursue a more meaningful existence>It feels like a bunch of schizoids who hate human weakness took over
Honestly, if these bother you so much then you don't belong here at all. This mindset is what made wizchan a different and better imageboard than others, if you want to post 3D succubi and cry about being a pathetic moron who can't have friends or can't put his penis into a vagina then r/crab and plenty of other, similar places exist where you can share your "meaningful" feels and thoughts with your fellow r9k losers.>you're the people who wants "open borders" for every single 18 year old virgin with Facebook and instagram accounts,tons of friends and an active social life
Having friends is for normals. If said 18 yo has no friends and is a virgin, and he has no desire for either friends or succubi then he should be able to post here.>as if virginity automatically made you a better person or allowed you to achieve new heights (guess what that isn't true),there's literally no advantage of being a virgin,you could have sex and you would be the exact same guy,virginity is not a gift to be protected,but a symptoms of very deep issues
Take notes, kids. This is the average v9k/dep inc-el. He can't imagine in his tiny lizard brain how anyone could NOT want sex or succubi. He is angry at current wizchan because he can't post his favorite pepe-memes and >tfwnogf infinitely. He wants to turn wizchan into your average imageboard, one among the many. Another shit-quality chan that appeals to sexually frustrated crabs. How sad.>>53883>I'm not an "in-cel"
You claim so, yet you defend the clique which wants to abolish the virgins only rule and/or wants to revive the darkest period of wizard history. Right.>That's why the site has 'wiz' in the title, you fucking retard. Of course it caters to wizards. Everyone else is tolerated, providing they are wiz-like.
Lol Most of the userbase has always been around 25. But keep on rewriting history.>With this much effort you are expending, why don't you just start your own website and invite your imaginary group of successful, rich, handsome, and socially capable wizards?
I don't know, why don't you go back to r9k if you miss the feeling so much? I'm not holding you back. Or literally every single chan is for your liking, since most caters to normals or failed normals like you. Current wizchan is an exception, a rarity which appeals to the voluntary celibate group. So instead of trying to normalize wizchan you should frequent other normalfag-infested places.
No one wants to abolish the virgins only rule retard,on the contrary,a virgin only rule is way too permissive,like 40% of normalfag teens above 18 are still virgins.
The argument is "being a virgin is not enough to be considered a wizard" not "being a virgin is not necessary to be considered a wizard".
It would be nice if we could have 3 containment boards. One is the Normie board (but that's essentially /b/), then the crab board (no normies but sexual desires can be expressed), then you have the volcel board (/wiz/). But my guess is the mods don't want to be bothered with policing a crab board as they do enough of that on /b/ and /wiz/ practically moderates itself.
>>53909>wiz moderates itself.
>"Hey guise I'm a Wizdad caring for my adopted wizdaughter">"I'm very handsome,gi-rls have been throwing themselves at me since I was a kid,but I never paid attention because I'm actually gay"
/wiz/ is even more of a shithole than /dep/ at times.
Shut up wiz-normie.
>>53910>"Hey guise I'm a Wizdad caring for my adopted wizdaughter"
That thread is "wizchan 2020" as fuck. I was surprised when I saw it
We need to ban anyone that posts pictures of and commemorates this filthy fucking consummate crab elliot rodger just as we banned the green frog because those posters are likely to be normies. This time, the people likely to post pictures of elliot the crab are likely crabs themselves too, otherwise they wouldn't be saying shit like giving him sacred burial grounds (and the post above it that I'm too lazy to copy or read most of but its probably some crab shit).
Of course the mods won't do anything because they are crabs themselves, as are the majority of the userbase in 2020.
I think the author of that thread made it all up. Highly doubt it’s real.
Elliot Rodger was a volcel.
>>53906>. Wizard culture wasn't born until we started to ban r9k memes
what? original wizard culture has been dead for years now and was mostly spawned out of 4chon which by that point was already a separate entity from 4chad r9k.
The site was pretty split over the issue actually.
Although 4chon was like og r9k and native elements before it became fagged up
that's the problem with making a crab containment board, it would just end up being an elliot rodger psychopath worship board. Are crabs too stupid to rape that they resort to killing people while rage quitting life?
I know what you mean OP, but I actually would take it a step further. You mean there is a problem with the only "only virgins" rule being the only rule. And I agree, I think our identity has evolved to the point where its almost irrelevant. Too many interlopers are coming in and criticizing us and they only get to stay by not mentioning their sexual history (which probably does exist). But even a virgin can make himself a whipping boy for normalfag culture and say "dude we're just all losers and shit. We don't know enough about life to say if its good or bad". Honestly for this reason, for the sake of argument I would even do away with the only virgins rule and swap it out in favor of an only pessimists rule. You can be as happy as you like, but don't turn it into an approbation of life; likewise you can be miserable but don't say its because you personally are missing out on all the bullshit normalfags tell you is important.
This isn't pessimistchan, this is wizchan. Take your bullshit elsewhere.
Wizards can enjoy life and they should if they can. There is no reason to be an envious asshole who hates all kinds of fun just because. Don't drag others down into your stinking pile of bitterness.
Who said anything about envy and bitterness? That sounds like roughly the content of this very post. Philosophy really ought to exist irrespective of feelings altogether.
lol get a grip you pearl-clutching housewife
There is nothing wrong with approving life. If you enjoy it then you basically approve of life anyways, even if you try to convince others to the contrary.
implying objective reality even exists when it's all created by your mind anyway
tbh if this is just about not having sex, might as well rename it asexualchan and let females in
master vs slave morality comes down to shadow boxing in echochambers and talking each other until we fight head on, resentment for the other sides's supposed crimes, denial and rewriting history
This wizzy has said it all. This site has been a joke for a very long time. At this point I mostly visit here for the older threads when this site wasn't as corrupt and spitting on its roots as it is doing today.
He is to in.celdom what hitler was to nazi germany
Hitler blamed the Jews for German failures
Elliot blamed succs for his suffering
I don't get the guy's cultlike following, even on 4teens. He's "generic crab #403" tier.
"Something is wrong here succubi aren't attracted to me"
He was close, the average succubus is only attracted to hyper-masculine 8/10 guys everything else is a provider type loved for what they do over who they are, every hypothetical for fair world is drawing an ought from an is, you turn into a suicidal maniac because what youwant and deserve isn't a choice in an unfair world
He was close, the average succubus is only repressing their hypergamy for hyper-masculine 8s.9s.10s else is a provider type loved for what they do over who they are, whats wrong is the game is rigged and brutally competitive, every hypothetical for fair world is drawing an ought from an is, you turn into a suicidal maniac because what you want and deserve isn't an exercise of free will, only idiots call it a choice, but he decided his own fate rather than face societies retribution
No. I'm a 33 year old virgin. Male. I don't associate with crabs, even Elliot Roger. Nice try, succubus.
He certainly engaged in succubus like behavior
The core tenet here is asociality. If someone is truly asocial enough to post here then it seems like a forgone conclusion that they would satisfy the virginity requirement.
Having the main theme of the site superficially revolve around sex attracts people who are preoccupied with sex and social phenomena.
I don't want to read about sex or friendship at all, neither its presence or absence.
>>53791>implying that being volcel (wizard) is inherently being a loser.
So then, where's the "disregard females" catchphrase from wizchan?
BAN THIS CRAB.>>53793>again crabs addressing theirselves as wizards>implying that crabs are actual losers while they usually have less incidence of schizoid symptoms, and not despising them because of their zombie attitude, being wannabePUAs rapists and school-shooters.>>53803
This was intended as much as I've known, to volcel schizoids. Otherwise virgins are crabs or failed normans.>>53810
I insist: why are you not bragging at crabs.co? I suspect that your hatred against volcel (shown already since they usually say "no one is really volcel") is never consolated.
Let's promise a thing: if these crabs end up banning wizards from wizchan, we'll end up doing proselytism of the site so it gets finally flooded with succubi and normans, which they definitely won't ever stand up against, so no crab remains after the usurpation of the site.>>53838
Agree. But the fact of having had sex must be hidden if they wish to remain here. It breaks the spirit.>>53844
See? This is a fitting wiz>>53845
And difference from crabs.co>>53852
The envious nature of a crab quickly reveals theirselves.>>53858
Even if losers are included, the perception of failure about leads to crabness, eventually.>>53862
Why should we call them wizards, then? They belong with elliot rodger fans, OUTSIDE.
why does this read like it was written by a succubus
This is the only good thread on this whole site. Most people's replies are dogshit, but the OP is right. Being a fuckup with little or no future matters more than not having sex, but sexhavers shouldn't be allowed in, just people who are actually wiz. It's amazing how much wizchads have taken over this site, hell, one of the mods is a confirmed wizchad
It makes me sick that there are not only mild failures here, but apparently, some of these guys don't even want to die, not even a little! Geez, the quality is just going down every day. I open up /dep/ like I always do with my morning coffee, and what do I see, a couple depressing posts, suicidal ideation, sure, but a lot of them also make me feel kinda weird, suddenly I'm making plans, imaging better futures. Shieet, I had to put on a Ligotti audiobook just to calm down. Man, we need to do something or who knows where this site might end up. I don't wanna use the r-word, but that is surely where this place is headed.
>>55987>Being a fuckup with little or no future matters more than not having sex
fuck off, I'm sick of you race to the bottom faggots, only a complete idiot would treat being as pathetic as can be humanly possible as a competition. it's literally never enough with your types, first youre a chad if you went to community college, then youre a chad if you finished high school, oh you finished MIDDLE school? fucking wizchads, I grew up in a cardboard box and never saw a human being in my life>oh you had a box to sleep in? fucking wizchads!
>>55989>It makes me sick that there are not only mild failures here
No, it makes you sick that there's any failures here at all.
the quality of normalfags has just been getting lower. normalfag anons from old imageboard days are objectively better than today's normalfags that live off discord, reddit, and social media. they at least understood chan culture to some degree, while still being a complete norman in the real world. today's normans don't get chan culture, probably used reddit and social media before even hearing about imageboards
if that seems strange i can probably find a way to word it differently so it makes more sense
What these improvebruh normalfags don't understand is that there is more to being a wizard than just being a voluntary virgin (although that is a non-negotiable requirement) but if you point this out, they'll just type "crab" over and over again. Just look at this faggot:>>55098
Calls everyone who disagrees with him a crab and literally can't even go two sentences without using the word.
Faggots like this would never have been welcome here 5 years ago. But now that most of the OG wizards have left and this place has been inundated with reddit tier nofap improvebruh normalfags, they have strength in numbers and are trying to redefine what it means to be a wizard and rewrite history.
>Wizchan was always meant to be a place for certain people,people that is mostly depressed all the time,people that was rejected by society,people that have several mental issues,the rule about "being a male virgin" was meant to be some kind of reference to appeal to that kind of people,after all if you're a virgin at 25/30/40 while the vast majority of the population isn't there must be some kind of issue with you,you're not "normal",for any kind of reason you deviate from the "normality", you're an exception,and the virginity rule was made to open the door for that kind of people. Now during the past years wizchan has been going the other way,successful people that have nothing to do with the wizchan culture post here all the time,they're successful,they're handsome,they're not depressed,not rejected by society, they are everything that a wizard is not supposed to be,and they are all tolerated because they are "virgins" or so they claim,we opened the door to "virgin" chads that share none of the qualities that a wizard was supposed to be,and we can't do anything because moderation always says "well they are virgins" and the chads say "well being a wizard is not the same as being a fucking loser lol".
Wait… How are you able to tell these people are successful, handsome, not depressed, and not rejected by society? Are they uploading some sort of social media posts nonstop or giving psych profiles of themselves to you? What are the qualifications for an anonymous poster to be restricted from this criteria Posting to /hob/? Having a job? Not being depressed for a period of time?
Are you implying that there should be no wizards who are not in a state of chronic grief and agony?
It seems like the fundamental issue here is your notion of what is and is not a wizard. I think it's oddly similar to the Originalism v. Living Constitutionalism argument held about the United States Constitution as plenty of the original arguments could literally replace 'constitution' and 'board rules'.
Your approach to wizardry is that you must be a virgin, suffer from chronic depression, be unsuccessful, look average or less, and be rejected by society. This would be considered more of the 'Living Constitutionalism' approach to the board rules where none of this is explicitly stated but could potentially be implied.
>after all if you're a virgin at 25/30/40 while the vast majority of the population isn't there must be some kind of issue with you
I have to question if this was what the intention was why would you have to make so many assumptions from the get-go? The more I think about it the more it feels intentionally depressing. It's cliché to use crab in the bucket, but the underlying principle of your post seems to be only accepting posts from those who fit 'virgin, suffer from chronic depression, be unsuccessful, look average or less, and be rejected by society.' Those who do not fit all of these criteria, or are no longer able to should not be allowed to post.
>The "virgins only" rule now seems like a joke instead of a way to keep normalfags away,like some kind of "thematic club" whose only point in common is that everyone is a virgin,nothing more,we don't share interests,we don't share lifestyles the only thing we "share" is the fact that we are virgins (if we even believe the chads that say so) now wizchan is full of people that wasn't here 5 years ago, gays,trannies,improvebrahs and just plain chads,but everything is ok because they are virgins,fucking Barron Trump can come and post here saying that he's a wizard because he's probably a virgin,this isn't right.
Are you proposing to instate some sort of moderation to prove you are not a norman? Why not just remove the posts that are clearly bait and unproductive? Is there not already a lot of good common interests in /hob/ & /jp/ and the like?
In the end of the day this is an image board, it's anonymous for a reason and it would be counterintuitive to regulate the users directly to 'filter the norms'. Posts that don't fit the context of the boards can be removed. I would imagine obvious bait in a post showing how handsome & successful you were wouldn't be kept very long and I feel like there is still plenty of common interests among wizards. Seeing this place turn into a circlejerk of how depressing your life is is the last thing I would want.
>>55996>>55996>How are you able to tell these people are successful, handsome, not depressed, and not rejected by society?
Because they say so themselves
>I'm not bad looking I'm actually quite handsome>females have wanted to fuck me before>I'm not depressed at all fuck /dep/>I was friends with people at school both outcasts and popular people
Except for #3 that is actually a simplification of some opinions I've heard heremI have seen people posting exactly #1 #2 #4 those are actual posts.
Also I'm the OP of this thread, a lot of retards completely misunderstood my post >>53791
(probably intentionally to cause confusion and dispute).
I never said that we should get rid of the virgins rule, on the contrary, being a virgin should be the absolute minimum requirement we should have and impose further restrictions from there.
It's time that we accept that normalfags can actually be virgins, there's a lot of 18-20 y/o virgin normalfags out there.
If it’s that plainly obvious then I think it would be hard to find someone to disagree with banning them. If your problem is this direct, are the moderators doing nothing?
My only real issue with your post is that I think a better way to contain the core essence of wizardchan would be to outline core posting philosophy and judge off of that instead of, what I originally felt here to be, aiming directly at the person themselves. If applied correctly I believe it would leave much less interpretation for moderators.
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>>56003>>56003>are the moderators doing nothing?
Nothing as always.