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 No.144352[Last 50 Posts]

Inspired by the long popular and useful Absolute Homelessness Survival thread (archive link here - http://archive.is/FSyGj) and thriving interest and ongoing utility of the topic, a general thread about homelessness and survival in the harsh, sometimes cruel world is in order.
Feel free to share hard won knowledge, ask questions, and discus the topics of homelessness.

Remember to be good to each other here. Trolling and shitposting is not acceptable and will be reported.

 No.144354

homeless wizard

 No.144359

>>144354
This is not a thread for /b/ memes.

 No.144360

>go to city
>beg for money

congratulations, you now know how to survive as a homeless person. Seriously even in shitholes like India you can make enough from begging to survive, in most richer countries you don't even need to beg because there are shelters and food dispensaries and programs like food stamps. Survival is really not that hard, you just need to continue to imbibe water and food and not let your blood leak out from beneath your skin too much.

 No.144361

Id like to live in a forest near me. I have a tent. I guess ill eat dirt when food runs out or ask food from trekkers and hope a wizard is one of them.

 No.144362

>>144360
>be a wizard
>be socially skilled enough to make a living by getting normies to give them money for nothing in a long string of face to face interpersonal communications
pick one

 No.144366

>>144360

you don't really need to beg to get food. only dumb pleb normies do that shit. it's degrading and humiliating.

you dumbster dive for expired food at grocery stores/convenience stores or you get a box of food from a church. some churches hand out boxes of food>>144360

 No.144368

Find a church, smaller town/less "downtown" area the better. Catholic churches in particular are one of the last places where they give a shit about men, down and out single men. You are much more likely to get encounter sympathetic people who will help you with food and probably even a place to stay (I wager it would help to show a humble and wizardly appreciation for churhces as sanctuaries. comes to mind as a good thing to mention anyway). As well as men's groups. One of the very last places where men's only anything can exist in society, where men of literally all kinds of background situations discuss the world and spiritual concepts and things. These people if any will help you in a way that isn't "homeless fuck #3434456 huh, here line up for a bed and food sometimes try not to get robbed nigga". It's what I would do instead of hang around the guts of a big city in a world where being an outcast doesn't just make you "the autist", it gets you swarmed and brutalized for being a lone easy target.

 No.144385

one that i thought was obsolete still seems to work. If you are age 18-28, and can pass for the student body. Finding a big college campus and blending in with the students can work for a long time. It's not as easy as the old days, but i just saw an article where a 28 year old homeless guy was living homeless in Ivy League schools, although articles like that will make security more alert to homeless on campus trying to pass for students.

 No.144387

>>144385
what are the benefits of student camouflage?

 No.144388

>>144387

depends. could just be a place to sleep; if you are smart and enterprising, a way to take classes and learn stuff for free. On the really savvy end, although i doubt anyone here could pull it off, fall in with a crowd of rich kids and get sucked into their world

you'd have to be able to look the part though

 No.146080

Reminder: your monthly homeless budget should be $150-250

 No.146152

man FUCK being homeless. i know too that if my bux was cut off id be on the streets. man, honestly i just dont think i belong in this world, let alone any city or society. thats why i was thinking, why not just go out in the middle of nowhere and build a cabin and live in it? its basically the same thing, except you have your own shelter from external weather, and your a lot less stressed out

i remember i was living in youth homeless shelters between like 16-17 for about 5 months, and those places are STRESSFUL. everyday you have to find something to do. everyday you're always on the move. everyday you need to always be alert. you're much more likely to lose something, to hurt yourself by accident, to get in a fight or have some rabid nigger want to start a fight with you, all sorts of garbage. its such a stressful lifestyle

the funny thing is with automation and artificial intelligence, we are very soon going to have massive unemployment waves, simply because ai and robots will be able to do everything better than human. driverless cars will permanently destroy a HUGE amount of truck driving jobs, cabs, businesses that cater to drivers like motels, hospitals, car repair, etc etc.

we will have automation of like half of ALL EXISTING JOBS in the next 5 to 10 to 15~ years. these might even be conservative numbers, soon even normies will become unemployed and homeless. a lot of daydreaming liberals tout the idea of universal basic income, but i dont think thats going to pan out with no human workers
https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/30/16719092/automation-robots-jobs-global-800-million-forecast

guys we are going to enter into a time where we will have massive unemployment, and homelessness is going to increase. im honestly thinking about either saving up enough money to buy a small plot of land in NWT, canada, and just building a cabin on it and living innawoods until ai reaches human level and automates all work and recursively self-improves until its superhuman

im trying to get a security guard license right now so i can work as one all you do is tell people to go away and your alone most of the time. sounds like heaven for me. but if shit falls apart imma go squat in the middle of fucking nowhere. FUCK living in cities and being homeless, i cant survive that kinda stress

 No.146634

For anyone that lives in your car, how do you get wifi when the library closes? I usually park my car in a parking lot of a store that has a wifi with no password. Target, wallmart, mcdonalds, burger king, and boston market have worked for me. I'm posting from a boston market parking lot right now. I usually try to hide so the workers don't see me though, but so far I've never had anyone confront me about it.

 No.146638

>>146080
Maybe if you have addictions you have to pay for.
I am really unsure what else could make you spend that much every month while being homeless.
I bearly spend $40 bucks in 3 months when homeless. You can get and should be trying to get all your basic needs met for free or close to free.

 No.146642

>>146152
>either saving up enough money to buy a small plot of land in NWT, canada, and just building a cabin on it and living innawoods
You're daydreaming, and if you ever try this you're going to starve to death in a month.
Surviving in the Northwest Territories is _barely_ possible, if you have excellent outdoor know-how. Northern Canada is one of the absolute stupidest places on earth you could choose to build a cabin.
Not to mention that there is not even any land for sale that far north and what little exists is extremely expensive. It all belongs to the government.
You can get better cabin conditions in Northern Ontario or Nova Scotia for less than 1/10 the price.

 No.146643

>>146080
What are you spending all that on? I'm not homeless yet but my expenses wouldn't change much if I was. My gas bill for my car will increase and I'll have to pay for gym membership, but I doubt I'd spend more than 60$ a month. Working at my part time job I'd make $800 a month and probably save more than most slaves that rent too.

 No.146839

>>144366
I see a lot of trash bins getting lots now, but I live in a big city. Is this happening everywhere?

 No.146844

>>146152
eunuch wiz?

 No.147035

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>>146080
No, it should be around $60.

 No.147284

Be careful dumpster diving. Some places put rat poison in dumpsters.

 No.147486

>>144366
Or shoplift. Get skilled at it. It works

 No.147529

>>147035

wow, a wiz' study. bet it comfy in winter with that stove.

 No.148413

>>144385
can confirm this, I showered at a college for awhile

 No.148418

ugh, traveled to location in us pnw. rumors had it that theyre pretty tolerant of homeless and down n outs. well the reality is hippy days are long gone, its just box stores as far as eye can see, too many people for the area. trying to live an alternate lifestyle not easy, lots of businesses have security patrol in parking lots to chase you off, they even removed the knobsnoff the spigots so you cant get any water. hard to find an outlet to charge anything. even most city parks have no damned fountain. who makes a park without a drinking fountain? i checked out a kids area at a large park and found one hidden drinking spot with weak water pressure. i try to steer clear of security but it seems citizens are eager to report anything out of the ordinary so im always on guard. even today some contract groundskeeper took a picture of me hanging out in parking lot and seemed more than happy to saunter back into the box store and report me. Ive gotten chased out by security at another location that was ideal too probably reported by one of my fellow residents. how nice of them. if you not going shopping, going to work or buying entertainment then what do you do? hangin out at parks sometimes, its more relaxed but even here you have to act like a normie or be reported for suspicious behavior. everyone always looking around, do they even enjoy themselves.

 No.148419

>>148418
Where in pnw? if you have the clothes for it, there's lots of homeless in seattle. Surely there must be a reason for that.

 No.148420

Homeless people shouldn't take this shit. They should start rebelling, being criminals, etc. If society can't provide for us, then lets tear this motherfucker down.

 No.148422

>>148419

im in bellingham, wa but i passed through seattle and the sheer size of it scared me. thats one if the reasons im here is bellingham is moderately sized. Still its not easy to stay low profile here so thinking of heading back to seattle just because so i can hide amongst the throngs of people. yeah i also heard they have homeless camps they wont tear down most days so something must be going on.

 No.148423

>>148422

also to add that i went to a beach the other day but most beaches here are rocky and man made to secure harbors. normies wont go near the water since not only do they dissolve like the witch in oz movie but someone posted signs that the water not safe for swimming (possible bacteria). i ignored this and went out ankle deep and since my hair was kind if scraggly, i ran some water through it, really enjoying myself since ive wanted to see and feel the ocean for many years and it was hot that day. the warning is basically so normies wont go out and inevitablytake huge gulps of water but whatever. soon after some fag comes sauntering out, mumbling that "you guys should go back to the street", which i basically ignored but it remimded me to not do too much out of the ordinary, to monitor my own behavior, copy what normies are doing outside, since even this simple human pleasure can get you noticed.

 No.148424

>>148420
I mean, some do commit crimes. And also the homeless aren't some organized group, it's class of people. And many are homeless for many different reasons.

>>148422
>>148423
Just stay out of the big city areas like downtown or chinatown. Also I'd heed some of those bacteria warnings. It's not gonna kill you to go ankle deep like you did, but it is a problem and they can cause anything from oxygen deprivation in the water to releasing toxins.

 No.148443

>>148418

everyone in America is a NARC now, with silly Jack Bauer fantasies. ie report the homeless guy

Forget about places that were 'hippi' areas 50 years ago. Look for rural areas. Poor areas. I'd try ghost towns, abandoned buildings, and gradually work up from there. My own plan, although im getting too old for it, was to see if i could live in a ghost town/abandoned building, get super into the squatting community. Once i figure out how to live out of one in the middle of no where work my up to where i could do it in a major area. I knew a guy who was squatting in mansions a few years ago

 No.148608

Are any wizards here currently homeless? How are you getting by?

 No.148851

I am Brazilian. I wandered the highway for a little more then half a year and now I am thinking of just become a normal homeless. I have been in the same city for a month.

I am eating an insane amount of food without even ask or looking for food.I just go to places where I can eat as much as I want. At night people always go to my sleep place and give me food many times in the same night. I give some to the dog.

I sleep next to a parking building 5m from some security guys. They are like my personal security. I use my tablet and smartphone even there. The homeless say "Look the nerdy, always on his computer". If someone talk to me I just say "I don't like to talk."

I go the library and stay there all day, watching anime, reading books, going out only to eat.

I am wondering what fuck I was thinking living extremely on the highway. Homeless is comfy. Travel is a little fun, but very hard. Perhaps I will just keep traveling to the same couple of towns since I nailed how to travel between then with food, charity, sleep and hitchhike spots.

I use some condoms to FAP inside the sleeping bag while watching porn at night.

It is a little depressing by social conditioning the fact that I am homeless, but it has been an acceptable neet life.

 No.148982

>>148851
Oh, To hang out at the library is something I haven't thought of. I assume most people aren't at these places as much nowadays, at least not when at work or school?

 No.148983

>>148443

you are right about narcs, i have to keep eyes peeled for regular folk, not just cops and security. ive found people are more than happy to speed dial the police if they think you are suspicious. if i get a vibe from someone or they give me a certain look i go to another location to hang out. basically if you are not being a consumer robot running between stores and work. i finally got down to seattle and it is easier to blend in here and more going on. sad to say that anything that made the pnw different and special to me is pretty much gone. ill try to get what u can out of this place and maybe find a more remote place like you say, squat someplace nobody gives a shit about

 No.148984

>>148982
you can hang out in the library as long as you don't fall asleep in one. This is true for inner city libraries were homeless will try to sleep from central heating.

 No.148992

>>148983
>ive found people are more than happy to speed dial the police if they think you are suspicious.

dont get me started.

Yea the guy i knew, although keep in mind this was not long after the financial crisis in the US. He was squatting in abandoned buildings. And, then somehow made the leap to squatting in fancy homes. I dont know how he found those places. But, he could somehow pull off that he looked like he belonged in the area, but stayed in one too long enough to get local attention. The key seems to be to bounce to a completely different area the moment people think something is off.

I really wanted to try living in a ghost town. Or some abandoned warehouse type place on the outskirts of a major down town. The ghost towns are still there, but i've heard all the old warehouse places are being re developed into condos and shit. I'm getting too old for either though

 No.149001

What do the homeless do all day?

 No.149002

>>149001
My week day schedule:

6:30 Wake up, go to the church for breakfast and sometimes laundry, new clothes and shower.
9:00 library and internet
11:00 Homeless Soup
12:00 library and internet
19:00 go to the park and access internet there
20:00 go to sidewalk to sleep and wait for food donation while using my smartphone
22:00 sleep
?? Wake middle at night to piss, shit or FAP

Weekend I go to the sidewalk after 14:00, put a cardboard and stay there, sleeping and using my smartphone.

I don't have addictions and receive R$ 1000/month (250-300 USD). I could go to a favela and rent a room and have no money after food, but I think it's better to sleep on downtown streets. Will rent a room when too old to live on the streets.

 No.149003

>>149002
hey thanks for replying, wiz.

 No.149016

My current gear list. I use only one set of clothes. One underwear. I wash in public bathroom sinks (I even wash in the library), gas station or in my Tupperware. It is for full time homeless traveling, but also do the normal homeless stuff.

It is very lightweight.

Gear List

! Worn

*Baseball cap
*Prescription glasses
*Safety Sunglasses
*Buff (neck)
+Religious Necklace
*Synthetic Shirt
*Fleece Jacket
*Windbreaker
*Gloves
*Wristwatch (left wrist)
*Whistle and USB Flash Driver (left wrist)
*Buff (left wrist)
*Synthetic Underwear
*Synthetic short
*Synthetic pants
*Fanny Pack
*Sleep socks (wool)
*Walk Socks(synthetic)
*Sport Shoes

! Fanny Pack
  
*Kindle and case
*Battery 10000mA with led
*USB dual charger, USB cable x2,
*Documents
*Lipstick
*Ear plug
*SAK Manager and USB Flash Drive
*Minibic
*Money and Coins

! Inside Pockets

*Smartphone, micro SD, SIM
*Earbud Headphone

!Backpack

*Sleeping bag
*Big Trash bag
*Tupperware
*Water Bottle
*Bag with bleach, marker and recharge, super glue, needle and line, diabolo's line, boxer knife and recharge, SIM 2, DIY disposable spoon.
*Bag with toothbrush, dental floss, small toothpaste, safety razor, sponge, bag with soap bar, bag with toilet paper
*Diabolo and sticks

 No.149018

>>148851
Interesting post. Good luck on your travels, wizzie.

 No.149050

>>149002
Not bad, wouldn't guess that you are Brazilian. 250-300 is a lot in unemployment(?) benefits too.

 No.149052

How long do you think a healthy male in his 20s could survive in the wilderness in a cold climate with a budget of $13k?

All my daydreams are now focused on escaping society, and I realize that I simply lack the emotional attachment to status, a career etc to want to stick around. My daydream is to hand my mother and sister half my money, book a one-way flight to the US and then travel to the North East and live somewhere with no snakes or poisonous bugs and maybe travel into a small town once a week / fortnight to stock up on budget foods.

 No.149128

>>149052

it sounds like a horrible idea. Do you even have a passport? Depending on where you are coming from you might not even be allowed a tourist visa.

you re handing away $6,500 of your money. I could only assume they will think you are debating suicide since you just handed them that much money. You think Normie relatives will just sit there and say okie dokie while you are suicidal and planning an international trip? they will start making calls to alert people

Next back to the trip, i doubt you will get a tourist visa, but if you do they will want to see additional funds, a return ticket, and plans that you intend to return after your arrival.

On the slim chance you get in, you are down to probably around $4,000. You have no support, and no clue where you are going or what you re doing. You could burn through that in a few weeks. On top of the American public being on alert for weird wandering foreigners. Check out that video of the Russian guy hitch hiking across the USA on trains and shit. And, how parnoid people were , and constantly asking his ID, police popping out of bushes in the wilderness to ask for his papers.

Just take a vacation to Canada, and forget trying to act out Easy Rider

 No.149132

whelp the company I was working for went under and my savings are dry. Not that it really matters because my psycho landmasters have decided to jack the rent up to $1400/month, so I'd be fucked anyways. This will be my second time living in my car, but with less cash. I don't even feel that scared about it, just mildly annoyed I'll have to clean out my apartment.

 No.149136

>>149128

do you have link to vid of this russian hitchhiker? would like to see. agree that people in us are paranoid and itchy to call authorities at anytime and more than ever seem to act like their eyes and ears. scary

 No.149139

>>149136

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWKuCBZBPIw&t=389s

^ This is why it's risky to wander rural USA, everyone is so fucking paranoid and hyper. I lost track of how many cops this guy got stopped by. And, if you dont have any papers cops are authorized to arrest you and take you in until documents can be produced who you are.

My friend who was doing the Mansion Squatting like 10 years ago. His whole thing was 'Look the Part' If you are in a wealthy area, look wealthy, if you re in the country look like the people out there do. If you look like you belong people are less inclined to fuck around with you. And, i wanted to try doing ghost towns, but honestly, this video makes me think it would be a bad idea, you think it's empty, no one is around, there is a security camera somewhere watching it.

 No.150071

>>144352
Any Europeans here? I am in Central Europe, and will the streets soon (2nd time). I been homeless in Portugal before for about 9 months, it was not that bad. I have no experience here and I am not really ready for the winter season. Can anybody share some tips? Thanks

 No.150072

>>150071
>I been homeless in Portugal before for about 9 months
Where in Portugal?

 No.150074

>>150072
It is a Spanish colony

 No.150079

>>150074
Where in Portugal, not "where is Portugal".

 No.150084


 No.150085

>>150079
Aveiro, Viseu, Porto and Lisbon. Sorry, I missed the "is" in your question.

 No.150086

>>150085
* "in"

 No.150241

>>146080

if it's only you, you could in theory survival on 50 dollars a month. it depends on what you buy.

i survived on 80 dollars a month while living with my aunt for a couple of months and i bought snacks and all kinds of food i didn't need. if i had bought the essentials i could have survived on 50 dollars a month

 No.150242

>>150241

you could in theory survive on 50 dollars*

 No.150283

Any tips on surviving homelessness in Canada?

 No.150287

>>150283
You'll probably die from cold unless you live in a car and have a lot of blankets to cover up.

 No.150292

>>150287
Knowing how and where to squat is a required skill.
Even a car isn't quite good enough in the winter if you aren't super careful and have the cash to keep everything in good working order (the car needs to be able to run well to use the heat, which you will need to not die).

 No.150294

>>150283
Cold countries are the worst for homelessness. If you got a chance and funds, the only option would be to move to warmer climates.

 No.150297

Reading these threads are the most interesting thing on this whole website.

 No.150308

>>149016
Thanks for this post. How do you wash your clothes if you only have one set?

>>149002
How do you get internet from a park?

 No.150311

>>150283
People mostly do it in the big cities. There are shelters for the very cold days. Even then a few die from cold every year.

 No.150345

>>150294
If you are already in canada and homeless or going to be homeless you are pretty much stuck in canada. It isn't like Europe or wherever you are from where you can just walk across the border without a Passport/Visa, which requires money, lots of paperwork, and a home address, and generally homeless people are denied entry at the border.
Unless you are hopping on a long boat ride or a flight your only way south is through the US, and they are pretty strict about proper paperwork.

 No.150502

>>150345
I live in BC and I could always go to the sunshine coast or out west, problem is I have little to no cash and I hear it's full of crime and dangerous people in that area. I've been to Vancouver in the past and it's not exactly the best place in the world, cold and rainy and again, tons of crime and crack heads. If you were going to be homeless anywhere in Canada it would probably have to be in the Okanagan valley in central BC.

 No.150510

>>150345
It's really not that hard to cross the border illegally from Canada into the US though. There's a shit ton of border and it's not like we have armed guards patrolling the whole thing or anything.

 No.150519

>>150510

watch the Russian hitch hiker vid. This isnt the 1980's unfortunately. Even if someone gets across the border illegally, getting hassled by cops is routine shit in Burgerville. And, You cant just say oh i forgot my ID's somewhere else.

 No.150651

>>150519
From what I understood the only reason he was stopped by the police, was because he was walking near the highway. I don't think you will be harassed by cops day-to-day, unless you call attention on yourself, even being illegally in a foreign country.

 No.150670

>>148851
>>149002
Are you that anon who made those posts on 1500?
Which city are you in, fellow BRo?

 No.150719

I'm thinking about writing down a list of things I would need if I were to ever become homeless, what should I put down? Also, what would I do with my money? I don't really trust banks, but walking around with cash in my pockets would make me a huge target.

 No.150810

So it gets down to -20f/-30c around here. I was wondering if it's possible to survive the winter in a van. Now it's well known that vehicles bleed heat like crazy and will reach ambient temperatures minus windchill in a few hours. I was thinking I could build an insulated tiny room in the back of the van, not much bigger than a bed in terms of surface area. The floor, walls and ceiling would be made out of two planks of wood with a few inches of insulator between them. How effective would this be in terms of retaining heat? Keep in mind most of the van would be empty. It would basically be a very tiny "room" in the middle of the van used solely to sleep/lie down in. I feel like heating such a small volume wouldn't require a huge amount of energy and would keep me relatively warm throughout the winter. Only problem is I don't know how I'd power the heat source without keeping the engine on. Propane perhaps?

You might be wondering: why not just insulate the whole van? A few reasons: 1) It's a very labor intensive project. 2) Heating it would require more energy than my proposed solution because you would have to heat the entire volume of the van rather than a smaller sub-volume of it. 3) There is a high risk of fucking your van up with trapped humidity if you fuck up even slightly. My solution avoids this pitfall entirely.

 No.150811

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>>150810
Basically it would like something like this, but the walls would be thicker with insulating material in between. Also the dimensions would be slightly different, just enough to lie down in comfortably but not enough to stretch your arms.

 No.150814

>>150811
Go for it, it's probably gonna be a ton of work but it's worth a try.

 No.150816

>>150814
No offense but nailing a few boards together isn't a lot of work. I'm just wondering if my body outputs enough heat to keep it warm or if I'll need an external source of heat. I think sleeping in it with a good sleeping bag would make for a comfortable temperature. The human body outputs around 150 watts and according to an online calculator I need 300 watts to maintain a 40C temperature differential in a 3'x3'x6' volume.

 No.150821

>>150811

this may sound autistic but why not buy a bunch of blankets and tape them to the side of the van as insulation?

 No.150825

or you could buy a tent and set it up in the back of the van and put blankets over it

 No.150826


 No.150829

>>150821
>>150825
Neither of those are good insulation.

 No.150832

>>150829

fuck insulation

just buy a bunch of blankets and crawl in them. if you die then you die

 No.150844

>>150810
>There is a high risk of fucking your van up with trapped humidity if you fuck up even slightly

If you assemble your wizvan in a dry are I don't see why this would be a problem. Unless you of course live in a very humid enviroment, but considering you said it gets down to -30 celsius I doubt that.

Also, the back of a van isn't that big of a room. I'd imagine something like a small gas stove would be more than capable of keeping the temperature atleast bearable. Trying to heat up your little closed wizcoffin sounds like more of a fire risk honestly.

 No.150853

>>150844
The problem is not outside humidity, but humidity from your own exhaling that could get trapped under the insulation and ruin your van. Installing a gas stove in a van seems very labor intensive and would only attract unwanted attention with the required chimney. It's also considerably more expensive than the wizcoffin. I mentioned earlier that the dimensions of the thing would be 3'x 3'x 6, so a lot of the heater would be provided by my body heat. Igloos stay at around 0C with body heat alone, and the volume there is typically larger, with poorer insulator and it's not inside a metal van. I wonder if a few hot water bottles would be enough to bring it up to a comfortable temperature. Either way I've heard of people doing -30C in a tent and sleeping bag, so a wizcoffin would be more comfortable than that for sure.

 No.150857

Get a P.O. box just so you have an address and so your welfare checks or GST have somewhere to go, get a gym membership, preferably a 24 gym, just so you have somewhere to shower and shave; plus, it might be useful to have your own locker and it's a good place to hide when it's raining or chilly. My idea was to maybe walk down the side of a road and just travel from town to town, sort of just drifting along, nowhere to really be, but don't mind lookin' around. I was originally going to head out west on a bus, but I don't wanna leave behind my bank and I know what areas to avoid and where everything is in my town, rather than going to a strange new town and braving the unknowns. I might not be able to have access to food, but as long as I keep hydrated I might be fine, I can always have like $100 on me and use it sparingly at McDonalds if I'm desperate enough or if I'm running on absolute fumes. As morbid as this might sound, I'm not too worried about dying when I become homeless, I've never had a dream, never had a specific goal or a dream job or ambition of some sort, I always just wanted to coast through life. I always just wanted to be away from society and don't ever need to worry about taxes or be stressed, my dad lived off the grid for many years as a kid and he always just wanted to be free. I always just wanted to travel on foot, I always loved walking far distances alone, I felt some sort of comfort out of that; I should be sure to have a good pair of shoes/and or boots and plenty of socks, especially wool one's for winter. Honestly, I've thought about doing this for a few years, I just don't know what to do with my cash, I don't really trust banks (I keep my account open so I can cash cheques) but I don't wanna carry around $4k. I might have to sacrifice electronic entertainment, but my idea was to get a cell phone so I can keep track of time and use it in libraries and shit. Speaking of libraries, get a card! My library allows people to use the computer for two hours a day max, but open WiFi is free all day and as long as you're not annoying anyone or your odour isn't offensive, you can find a little corner and sit there all day. My dad likes to go off the grid camping in the summer for about two weeks at a time, I think I'm gonna ask if I can join him. Another good piece of advice is to get a hiking backpack, to carry your stuff, and cargo pants with lots of pockets. A medical kit would be vital in homelessness, not having little quick tools like nail clippers and filers, tooth picks, pliers or any other sort of knick knack on you could suck, just think of anything that could be of use to you like disinfectant, tape, bugspray, sunblock, sunglasses or even an extra hat could be useful or important if you get in a bind.

 No.150859

>>150811
Wouldn't you run out of oxygen sleeping in a tiny box all night?

 No.150862

>>150859
depends on how much air gets in and how easy the ventilation is unintentionally clogged.
Not really practical or comfortable if you ask me.
Reminds me of the people who think it is a good idea to sleep in a coffin and spend a bunch of money on it, then after one night the realize it was a terrible idea.

 No.150868

Why don't homeless people migrate south for the winter? You would think that if you are homeless you do not have anything that really ties you to a specific location.

 No.150869

>>150868
When you migrate, you have to become accustomed to the new area and it's a hassle.

You have to find all new places to get food, clothing, electricity, places to sleep, etc…

 No.150881

>>150859
A few ventilation holes should do the trick. Vehicles in themselves aren't airtight and will get enough fresh air into them. Cracking a window open slightly is an option too.

 No.150891

>>150868
Quite a few do actually.
But plenty stay because despite being homeless they actually have a lot of roots in a certain location.
Not every homeless person is also a traveler.

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 No.150936

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-d3qncxgP0

lol this guy's family is a bunch of control freaks. trying to control his life and make him live like a normie

 No.150954

>>150832
What a retarded idea

 No.150967

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>>150308
I changed my gear configuration. Nowadays I use clothes like dress shirt and jeans. You will never guess I am homeless. Jeans sucks but it is socially versatile.

I don't have extra clothes, but I am always wearing jeans and shorts, dress shirt and t-shirt. So I keep one in the body. Wash clothes in the city is a little difficult, I try to wash when close to the highway.

The park has free internet. Of course my schedule changes because I try to keep moving.

My goal is to eventually keep moving every couple days.



>>150670
Don't want to say the city but I keep myself in the state of Minas Gerais(I am not from MG) . I imagined that I would go cruising all the country, never going back to one place, but I am always saying "Fuck it, I will go back to MG" as soon I leave the state.

 No.150968

Whats a good way to insulate a car like a pontiac vibe to prepare for the winter? Is it enough to just cover the windows with some cut out insulation? I live in south eastern usa near dc and it doesn't always snow here.

 No.151037

>>150967
How do you dry your clothes. Legitimately curious.

 No.151105

>>151037
I put a large trash bag on the floor and put my clothes on them. When they are dry enough, I wear. Sometimes I hanging in something like those outside car
mirrors.

Most of my clothes are synthetic and sport friendly. I could put them right after washing. Also, tropical country, so it's even refreshing wear damp clothes. The jeans is a new challenge.

Remember that I try to wash in what I consider the "highway" region (gas stations or >20k population next to highway). In highway gas Station there is free places to truck drivers wash clothes.

 No.151166

only problem wth drying your clothes by hanging them up is that it makes your room smell like laundry

 No.151624

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Is this legit or are people just trolling?

 No.151628

>>151624
Are you new or something?
Yes this is real.

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>>151624
Homeless people don't exist, the world is perfect and everyone is happy.

 No.151635

>>151630
That guy is either a succubus, a pampered middle class soyboy or a foreigner.

 No.151636

>>151624
spotted the sheltered wizkid

 No.151637

do any of you fellas have experience with homeless shelters? they seem to be a disaster in my city crawling mostly with violent ex cons who will beat you for a couple of dollars.

 No.151641

>>151637
Only time I stayed in a shelter was when it hit below freezing when I was stuck in a town I didn't want to be in.
I made sure to keep my eyes on my stuff at all times and keep my guard up. Was better then freezing in the cold but other then that I rather sleep rough in a hidden corner somewhere.

 No.151646

>>151641
I would never sleep hidden in a corner where everything can happen. You should sleep next to security guards, store cameras and in the downtown.

 No.151647

a bud of mine went to the local autonomous commies, they provide some basic shit here in my city, at least that's what he told me, and he's not even a commie

 No.151648

>>151647
can you really walk into a place like that? i hear they are bookish wealthy larpers who turn away genuinely homeless people. maybe you're in Europe or something where the commies are bourgeois larpers or something. but the commies in my city definitely tell genuinely homeless people to take a walk.

 No.151649

>>151648
>the commies are bourgeois larpers
the commies are not* bourgeois larpers

 No.151657

>>151646
Seriously, homeless are assaulted regularly and any experienced one will sleep during the day on transited areas and stay awake at night when the streets are empty and they are more vulnerable.

Unless you are in a really desolate area its good to have people around since they prevent some asshole from assaulting you, even during the night you should stick to populated areas, your local bar area or something like that.

Been homeless for a week on the 3rd world

Also, stay away from people that has been on the street for a long time and try to get any job and a place asap. Street people are shit since they live in shit conditions for so long, got robbed and treathened once when i tried to get food from closing restaurants. If you are new they will notice and will take advantage from you.

 No.151667

>>151657

I have other experience.

Currently homeless for a year in third world and I have yet to be assaulted at night for anything other than food donations. Nowadays I have little fear while sleeping. My opinion is that being on the streets is harmless if you have the discipline to take care of your basic needs.

We need data about the frequency of homeless people being attacked for no reason to have a meaningful discussion.

 No.151679

That's why you camp outside of the city, no one to bother you.

 No.151776

>>151679
TLAXCALA!!

 No.151802

I'm thinking about drifting from town to town, always walking sort of thing. I was thinking of walking west.

 No.151806

Any Brazilian wiz to give me tips?

 No.151846

>>151667
I think it depends on your ethnicity and if you blend with the local homeless, or maybe my wizardness was too powerful to hide.. as a white wizad argentinian (argentina is not white* i attracted too much attentiion of the local brown skinned homeless of the capital. most capital homeless are really dug addicts or mental, i dont know if in smaller cities is different but in big ones its pretty extreme

 No.151934

>>147486
>Just shoplift brah, its easy
Fuck off. Not only are there hidden cameras hidden in shelves, there are plenty of undercover staff on the prowl. Its impossible to "learn how to shoplift" if you haven't been practicing all your life.

 No.151967

Did anyone save the old thread?

 No.151978

I'm just curious, but why even go homeless? I'd kill myself before I had to live on the streets, which I'll probably do soon since I'm getting kicked out soon.

 No.151980

>>151978
Some people's will to live and/or fear of death is too strong apparently.

 No.151981

>>151978
you can get used to anything
if you don't want to undergo the process of getting used to something, you can kill yourself

 No.152041

>>151802
Have good shoes, plenty of socks, and don't carry too much shit or you'll be exhausted by the time you reach the highways.

 No.152042

Is it smart to carry a knife with you? Just for protection and peace of mind.

 No.152045

>>152044
I have no intention on using it.

 No.152091

Do any of you keep in touch with your family? What do they say about you? To any of you that don't, do they know you're homeless? Why don't you contact them? How does it feel to be all alone and no one will know or care if you die?

I'm alone and living in my car and have no family and it's scary. I hope I don't lose my job and hope I don't get into any accidents because that will bankrupt me easily and then I'll just kill myself. The only thing that keeps me going is heroine.

 No.152142

>>152042
Depends on local laws, the knife, and if you actually know how to use the thing.
Both as a weapon and as a tool to justify carrying it.

I personally prefer stuff with more stopping power (blunt force trauma) but a knife is good for scaring motherfuckers away.
When I was on the streets I carried a thick hardwood cane. It both helped when I was carrying too much shit so I could go farther. Made me less threatening to normies since they assumed if I had a bum leg or something I was harmless, it was legal literally everywhere, and most importantly it is devastatingly effective as a weapon both on humans and animals like dogs.

While I did carry a knife, because I was traveling and didn't want to be messed with by the law for it I carried a pretty small one that I used exclusively as a tool. If I didn't care about the cops I would just carry a diy sap and have a good chance of finishing shit with one or two blows.
I knew one dude that carried a fucking hammer for the same reason. One of those 2 pound mini sledge hammers. Another dude I knew carried one of those big disk locks that they lock up the steel window protectors in front of stores with a bandana and said when he needed it for "crowd control" or something he could quickly put them together and swing away.

 No.152237

Suppose one were (in the USA) to call the suicide hotline and say "I'm broke and about to be homeless, got any better ideas than kms?" What would they do?

Not in this situation anytime soon, but as a last resort would consider it for after my remaining parent dies and I run out of money. Too lazy to be homeless, just let 'em take me away.

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>>152237
Interesting thought, someone should ask.
>Samaritans 24-Hour Crisis Hotline (212) 673-3000

Samaritans hotline is completely confidential and anonymous, and, unlike some other hotline services, does not utilize caller ID or call tracing, making it a safe place to turn for people who are afraid to go someplace else or feel they have no place else–due to social, cultural, economic or other reasons.


http://samaritansnyc.org/24-hour-crisis-hotline/

 No.152239

>>152237
There are fates worse then homelessness or death.

 No.152240

>>152239
Like? Not trying to be passive aggressive but I'm interested in what you think

 No.152242

>>152240
Torture. Illness. Imprisonment.

 No.152262

>>152240
Imagine being stuck in a loveless, financially draining marriage where your spouse is cheating on you with someone better than yourself; also imagine being stuck at a deadend low paying crap job like airline bagging or window washing. Also imagine having your cheating wife's sickly, rude, obnoxious mother having to live with you because she had two strokes and now she can't walk or do any basic tasks like eating or shitting without some form of assistance. To top it all off, imagine witnessing your childhood home get burnt down by arsons who are lowest of the low methhead scum who, for some reason, were all supposedly "friends" with your dad. At that point, you would WISH to be sleeping in a cardboard box, at least the only thing to worry about is that I hope my shoes don't get stolen in the night.

 No.152263

>>152262
>Imagine being stuck in a loveless, financially draining marriage
I don't know that feel.
You aren't speaking from personal experience, are you, wizzie?

 No.152271

Not a lot of advice ITT. Anyway if you're going to be homeless in a car here are the basics:

>always be sober and don't have shit in your car in case the cops want to search you for no reason. A DUI is your worst enemy.

>put down the rear seats and throw in a mattress, for sedans remove the front passenger seat and remove the backseats if you need to. This will save your back.
>get locking gas caps and ideally a locking roof case too
>hand gas pump and a spare can, in case you can't afford gas
>use a 5-gal milk jug half filled with bleach as a piss bottle
>separate your clean/dirty laundry and always wear underwear, this will help keep the smell down between washes (ideally done in a 5-gal bucket)
>follow the power lines and railroad tracks, those are things that generally go through areas without overnight parking regulations. Personally, power substations are great place to park because they are well-lit.
>if you need to move around without your car or without being seen, look at where the rivers and irrigation ditches go. Most local libraries usually have at least one book on local creeks and so forth, even if they're not obvious they are almost always there.
>wear a collared shirt

Bonus: if you want to steal shit either get a glass cutter or duct tape a window and smash it with a hammer; you want cash, jewelry, prescription meds, tools and guns in that order.

 No.152272

>>152271
>>use a 5-gal milk jug half filled with bleach as a piss bottle
Ammonia (in piss) + bleach = mustard gas right? Maybe not idk.

 No.152273

>>152272

no since it's not pure enough, but if you want to actually kill yourself via mustard gas just mix 2-3 gallons of bleach into 2-3 gallons of ammonia inside a car

 No.152276

>>152273
That sounds really unpleasant.

 No.152277

>>152273
Anyway, doing this shit releases chlorine. Small amounts are more or less harmless so long as ventilation is good. Large amounts kill you pretty hard.
I've inhaled small amounts of chlorine before and it's like being punched in the lungs. The feel of it inside the lungs really does happen like an impact, and it's unpleasant. Larger amounts will do that and you'll pass out.

 No.152538

>>146634
>>146634
hotel parking lots. theres places where there are multiple hotels in close proximity to each other and the parking lots are massive. their wifi is usually powerful as fuck. i can get holiday inns wifi from 300 feet from the door, sometimes farther. i have been able to sneak into the hotel to use the pool and breakfast. i have a tool that lets me clone the maids keys. when they clean my room when i pay for one i get their code and i can go anywhere i please anytime for free. i go to the pool every now and then but not often enough for it to be suspicious.

 No.152539

>>150968
at autozone i saw a 12v space heater designed for cars. i would recommend installing 4 big deep cycle batteries in the trunk of your car connected to the starter battery with a cutoff switch so you dont drain your starter at night and powering the heater off them. that should be more than enough to keep you warm all night and power all your devices. with an inverter you could run pretty much anything, including a better heater. harbor freight sells a super tiny 300 watt 2 stroke generator for $100 although it might be too noisy in most cases. farm and fleet sells the exact same one but with a 12v battery charger port for $130 which i would recommend because it would be able to charge the aforementioned battery pack and burn less gas than the cars main engine. noise would be a problem but if you can get far away enough from people it would be ok

 No.152551

i just need a job and i could buy a house here for 20-30 thousand. I just need a place to occupy that is completely mine. unfortunately i can't drive and i am too socially inept to get a job. i filled out like 5 job applications and they were all rejected. it's probably due to my terrible hand-writing. i gave up after that. i live in a rural area so there are not many job prospects here
i can't imagine ever getting a place in the city because a house will cost you over a 100 thousand dollars and property taxes will be high. i honestly don't give a shit about living a rich extravagant lifestyle. i just need a job to sustain myself and to live independently. Even if i were a billionaire, i would probably live in a regular house and have a regular car. living extravagantly is for low iq morons. I have no need for a mansion or a car. the only thing i care about when it comes to a car is it gets me from one place to the next. a mansion would just have space i don't need.
if i had a billion dollars i would probably give more than half of it away to people i like who are like myself and not to normies who are capable of success in life. i would create like a charity for socially retarded neets. I would probably make them get sterilized to prevent them from leaving to it their normie kids(in case they don't stay virgins). i would prevent them from leaving it to their families in a will in case they die. if they ever die the money would go back into the charity and would be passed on to another neet

 No.152552

>>152539

how do the batteries charge? do they charge while you're driving?

 No.152569

>>152263
I'm talking about my cousin

 No.152574

How can a homeless wizard acquire a decent laptop? How could homeless wizard use that laptop to make money? Nothing that requires charisma or long term education.

 No.152581

>>152574
Get a job/hussle or steal it are the only two realistic ways of getting one if you didn't already have money saved up.
Check one of the money making threads for ideas on how to use it to earn money as this isn't really the thread for that.

 No.152589

>>152574
Aim for cheapest with long battery life. But I think public libraries with Internet access would fit your case better.

 No.152608

>>152574
Maybe in some goodwill area or the like, people tend to throw away perfectly good/serviceable electronics

 No.152609

>>152608
As someone who frequents thrift shops and goodwills I will say no. You will not find a decent laptop in this day and age at goodwill, and even if you do they will charge near retail new for something near 10 years old and used.
You are better off getting a cheap windows tablet, a big battery pack, and and the cables and accessories to do what you want computerwise with the thing.
More portable and easy to secure while still being enough to get basic computer shit done.

 No.152620

Who are some people you should AVOID if you're homeless? What do you do if you're confronted by police or assholes who want to beat you up?

 No.152769

What about the "join the military" meme? I'm a 28 year old NEET, never had any job, soon to be homeless and I'm in a completely screwed position. I'm physically disabled and won't be able to pass any form of physical assessment, but it sounds like there's quite a few able-bodied wiznogs here.

 No.152771

>>152769
I wouldn’t say it’s impossible for a wizard to be in the military, but it’d be hard. You’d need to be extremely obedient, communicative, and reasonably attentive. You’d have to be physically fit and of course willing to go die for the sake of all the normans back home. This puts most wizards off, but if you can get into something like the air force or reserves and can get through basic, you’ll be okay. You still won’t get paid very well though, but enough to avoid homelessness.

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>>152574

you can get refurbished laptops on ebay for under 200 dollars. i am using one now

 No.152807

Dude just get a smartphone if you're leeching wifi on the street, niggers will eventually steal your computer

 No.152813

>>152771
hard? for a guy like him it's impossible (i mean no offense as i am almost in the same situation)
I am very suspicious of wizards in the military, to me they might as well be full-fledged normals

 No.152862

>>152769
i don't recommend the military

>>152813
it really depends. i had the worst experience but i luckily managed to get myself discharged by seeking mental health help. virtually every other job seemed like a walk in the park in comparison to what i had to do, it was like true slavery

 No.152878

to join the military you have to have a willingness to cooperate and have team spirit. you have to do a lot of socializing if am not mistaken. It's not a good place for autists

 No.152879

>>152878
Cooperation is something else, it's hierarchy that matters. Total conformance, following orders and reporting every detail according to the code. Can be a collossal obstacle.
Aloof traits combined with bureaucratic manipulation skills are a useful feature though, practically all the leadership is like that. But for such a position you need to graduate from the military institute to begin with.

 No.152883

>>144368

they'll probably not care about you if you're not catholic or you don't intend to convert to catholicism. they helped terry davis but terry davis is catholic

 No.152884

>>146152

you have a chance of someone finding you and then arresting you for violating some law
if i am not mistaken you can't just just find a spot and build a house

 No.152951

There's alot of LARPing in here

 No.152958

how much is in your guys'neet emergency fund in case your mother kicks you out?

i have about 1400 dollars. i accumulated it from a previous job my aunt got me. i was laid off a year ago

i already have everything i'll ever need(except a car and house), so i don't really spend money.

raspberry pi
2 laptops
xbox 360/xbox one
widescreen television

if i get another job i am gonna save up money for a 10-20 thousand dollar house and an emergency fund in case i get laid off. it will buy me some time to get another job

 No.152959

>>152958
>10-20 thousand dollar house

Where do you live, sub-Saharan Africa?

 No.152960

>>152959

some rural area in nevada where there are houses for 10-20 thousand

people end up buying them so you have to wait until there is one available and buy it quickly

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 No.152963

>>152959
Houses can be found for that cheap in much of the US and Canada. They're not shitshacks, nor are they in shitholes. Drive a few hours beyond the city limits and house prices will drop 90% or more.

https://www.kijiji.ca/b-house-for-sale/saskatchewan/c35l9009?price=__20000&sort=priceDesc

 No.152965

>>152959
I keep looking and I have yet to see one of these mythical 10-20 thousand dollar houses that are actually habitable. Even RVs easily cost more then that.
Only thing I have seen in that price range are condemned properties that would require a extra few hundred thousand dollars in work or to be fully bulldozed and rebuild.
And yes, that includes the deep country.
If you are seeing listings that low I strongly suggest you actually look at the property in question. Odds are it ain't in a condition that can legally be lived in.

 No.152970

>>152961
super comfy

 No.153052

Houses that are between 10-20k are likely to be total shitholes, there's houses in Detroit and Cleveland that go as cheap as 6k and under.

 No.153099

as long as it is a wooden box(that appears to be a house) and it looks good on the outside, who cares!

i plan to completely gut the inside. i just need a wooden box to live in

 No.153216

I'm thinking of becoming a drifter/hitch hiker

 No.153220

I wonder if the wizard from http://archive.is/FSyGj is still here.
>It provides amazing comfort to look out the windows and see the rain pouring down and I just sit in the darkness and relax in a closet. There is a unique freedom to this, but the instability can get to you.

wow, all that with 0$ income or expenses and also invisible to society.

 No.153231

>>153216
If your social skills are shit you are in for a bad time if you do.

 No.153401

>>153231
What are some possibilities?

 No.153549

I have box to live in but barely any heating. how do I heat myself up without any heating source? Im already in multiple layers of clothing

 No.153551

>>153549
Any electricity source nearby?

 No.153580

>>153216
Done it. It seems to be a popular thing for neets to do.
My advice. Don't do it long term and have an exit solution otherwise you're gonna drift endlessly like I am.

 No.153587

>>153580
Tell me some of your raped and what you did to prepare, please.

 No.153588

>>153587
*holy fuck not rape, so sorry about that, I meant to say experiences. Fucking autocorrect.

 No.153589

>>153587
Well I was never raped. I did get fondled by an old jewish pedo when I passed out after hitch hiking for 24 hours. After that my mind was scattered for a few weeks, so if your gut instinct tells you not to get in the car, don't.
Never be scared to tell the driver you'd like to get out before they plan on dropping you off.
Sometimes socialization isn't required. I've had rides where the driver is completely silent. Last year, a friendly native man with the softest voice I've ever heard didn't say a word until we parted. He wished me luck and safety, which was kind of him.

For preparation it all depends. Canada is a colder climate, so layer up. Water is huge and should always be your heaviest item. Keep everything minimal, don't be scared to get rid of things along your journey. This is another way of maturing and leaving past baggage behind. I've stupidly taken some items that I've never used, not anymore.

Basic items: hair comb, toothbrush, toothpaste, floss (good for patching things up too), spoon, knife, water filter, headlamp (extra important).

Higher tiered items: Poncho that can turn into a tarp, sleeping bag, bivy sack, bag.

Also for the love of god, get a good backpack. My back hurts due to this. I've got posture problems now due to uneven heavy loads mangling up my back. Carry light.

There's not much else to say. Don't take electronics with you. I did my first year thinking it'd be great. Well it turned out to eat more of my time than anything. Charging it, worrying about losing it or getting robbed is a big worry on your mind when you have very little to begin with.

There's not much else I can suggest. Use your best judgement. Don't waste your money on alcohol or drugs, especially hard drugs and try to look clean. The cleaner you look, the better people react.

 No.153592

>>153580
Where did or do you stay?

 No.153596

>>153592
In cities I slept in parks or behind bushes if I was too tired.

Otherwise I'd just camp out wherever I wanted, sometimes on the side of the road if there was no forested area nearby.

 No.153606

>>144360
its harder than that anon.
the mental syrvival of homelessness is quite difficult.

and for certain folk, staying in the same town while being homeless is unacceptable

its important to have some sort of outlet.
weather it be alcohol,a cell fone…even thru hiking and learning to live on trails….
to just sit in one town, one corner, one shelter is a horrid thing.

 No.153615

>>153589
What kind of backpack do you have? would you recommend one of those hiking backpacks?

 No.153616

>>153615 very much so, and spend real money on a properly fitted pack with a decent support system. my last backpack (a Dueter) cost over $225.00 with tax. worth every penny of it.
Your pack should feel as if it is part of you.
Do not skimp; or all your effort is wasted.
Money spent now on best quality gear is savings in the future.

 No.153617

>>153616
The fuck?
You can get a good backpack for ~$50

Once you are spending more the law of diminishing returns kicks in real hard.

 No.153618

>>153617
I don’t think he is talking about school bags

 No.153621

>>153618
Neither am I. I am talking camping backpacks, not fucking magic jetpacks or something.

 No.153627

>>153615
Don't skimp money on your sack. As the previous poster said, Deuters are fine sacks. I bought a $100 Amazon bag and it fucked my bag with the uneven load and fucky straps.

Now I primarily use a small 30L hiking bag I found in a thrift shop for five bucks. It's enough to carry everything I need and strap the excess on the outside.

 No.153629

>>153627
That sounds like user error rather then a problem with the bag.

The only problem I have had with really cheap bags is if they are overloaded the rip and they usually don't handle abrasion or mosture well.

Lost some bags to them failing under load, some busted zippers from overstuffing, and a couple to rot/mold.
I have yet to run into any of those problems past the $50 mark without doing something absurd (like lug 80 pounds of can food around which bent the internal frame and started to over stain the sholder straps).
If you are committed to carring a lot of weight around (which littrally everyone will warn you against for traveling, and with good reason) then the two things you want to look for above anything else is a good frame system and hip straps. Military surplus used to be a good way to get deals but it is kind of expensive now.
Now if I am not going light weight then I just get a bag from Wal-Mart and it does just fine unless a thrift shop happens to have a good deal.

 No.153634

>>153551
not accesible

 No.153635

>>153617 define 'good'. i have been using backpacks since '63; trust me when i say a cheap-ass pack can fuck you up very quickly.
if it fails you are fucked; i had one camp trails canvas pack that ripped a main seam out just sitting in the back of the station wagon en-route to the trailhead.. it was not
overloaded.
it is your home on your back.

 No.153636

>>153635
>define 'good'
Holds the stuff, has a way of properly distributing the weight you plan to carry, and is durable enough for your intended conditions (for example something water/mold resistant if very wet conditions are expected, or something made of natural fibers if you expect to have your pack near fire alot for some strange reason)

Main think I look for in a pack when I am not fussing about weight is heavy duty stitching, a good hip belt and frame, and proper capacity for what I am planing on carrying. After that it is just a matter of minor comfort preferences, like straps that are easy to adjust without taking the pack off, easy to maintain synthetic material, simple layout, etc.
> if it fails you are fucked
That is what duct tape and a sewing kit is for.
>it was not
overloaded
I don't believe you. I have never ripped a bag without overloading it. The cheaper the bag, the easier it is to overload. Then again I generally stay away from canvas because it doesn't handle moisture too well and get really nasty really quickly. At least in my experience.

 No.153637

>>153629 there is a shit-ton of bad pack designs out there; especially among the 'boutique' garbage for stupidents/yuppies. make sure it fits properly, do a search on how to fit /wear a pack.
And pay especial attention to your feet; if they fuck you up you go NOWHERE in a big hurry.
go to R****t 'ultralight and read what they say, they are normies who walk hundreds or even thousands of miles every year with a pack.
i wish i was young enough to walk out the door and say fuckit to all the bs around me.
those were the good days.

 No.153638

>>153636 my load for that entire trip was < 24 lbs. it was a bad pack, new never used. duct tape dude duct tape didn't exist then (1966) i bought a gerry the next week for $25 new. (big $$$ back then)
i had it for 40+ years, it is still being used. i have gear that is 50 years old that still functions because i bout quality back then.

 No.153639

>>153636 also, all packs were weighed at the trailhead.
the trip leader was carrying
75 ef'n lbs, he couldn't figure out how i could go 3 days with so little stuff.
'ultralight' was not even a word back then.
kelty was the pinnacle of frame pack design back then, i should have bought the Kelty (4$ more).
Live and learn.

 No.153723

>>149002
I know I'm literally months late to this post, but I'm a fellow BR faced with the prospect of homelessness. And even if I weren't: how in the fuck did you get to receive such a huge amount of money from the government? That's more than minimal wage, and this hellhole doesn't even have autism bucks.

 No.154049

https://www.reddit.com/r/argentina/comments/akqnna/vivir_viajando_en_bici/

Guy spends 5 years travelling southamerica on bycicle. Survives begging, selling artesanies and making music

 No.154151


 No.154234

>>152963
Fuck that looks comfy AF. I wish I was a burger, I could buy a house like that

 No.154235

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>>153549
sleeping bag for extreme temperatures. Just stay all wrapped up in it and have your PC on a small stool, with some pillow against the wall. Including illustration for reference

 No.154418

>>154235
tech-mummy

 No.154652

>>144352
I always thought that finding a nice corner in some hidden part of a town or somewhere else and just sitting there as the day goes by, not a care or worry in the world, would be so relaxing.

 No.154653

>>154652
The reality is so much worse though.

 No.154662

Looking for some advice, I'm a student who's become an alcoholic, I can't live in houseshares because I'll just be thrown out, is going to college and being homeless an option or would you just get a shitty job and your own place where people won't be throwing you out? I'm not giving up alcohol and intend on becoming a drug addict.

 No.154665

>>154662
The booze makes everything infintly harder. If you cut back to a level that you would be functional you at least could stay in college and use their facilities to make your life easier until you get back on your feet.
>and intend on becoming a drug addict.
So you are fucking retarded. No, you will not be able to stay at collage and you will not be able to hold down a job and get anywhere at all if you can't learn to control your drinking habit and get adicted to drugs. If you are intent on destroying yourself and fucking your life up no one can help you and you are dooming yourself to a situation you probably don't even fully comprehend how bad it is.

 No.154676

>>154662
The pit has no bottom. The suffering you have now will be nothing compared to what comes next if you dont turn your life around.

 No.154805

>>154662
You don't deserve help

 No.154809

>>154662
You'll be dead in 2 years.

 No.154869

>>154662
Live in a van. Use the showers at the gym and keep your laundry clean and no one will ever know. Of course, you're not going to do well, probably will even flunk out and then you've wasted your tuition.

 No.154874

>>154662
>intend on becoming a drug addict
This is a bad plan. You can survive if you skip this part.

 No.154910

>>154869
You are truly obsessed with vandwelling for whatever reason and will shill it even when not appropriate.

 No.155158

As long as you can avoid drugs and alcohol, you should be fine.

 No.155166

>>155158
That is also asuming you don't have a mental illness that made you homeless ether.
That said, not having a money sink like a adiction that makes it even harder to get work or assistance really makes things hard. The thing is the unrelenting shittyness of living on the street drives most people to look to drugs and drink as a way to cope. Ironically locking them into the streets in the process.
Drugs and booze are a trap. Cigs too are a money trap that you should avoid or quit if you can help it.

 No.155178

>>155166 Very true.
Every 'homeless' I encounter has a fag in its pie hole or is trying to cage one off the normies around it.
As for the druggies and alky's it is a downward spiral that worsens with every passing year.
Do not go down these paths; they are a trap that never lets go of you and destroys whatever chance you might have of any success.
Stay clean.
Don't start.
I'm not preaching, I can see the results addiction every day in the ex-normies around me.

 No.155179

>>155178
>Ex normies
What are they now?

 No.155183

>>155178
>success
It's not just success they deny you, they deny you the freedom to be comfortable.

 No.155190

>>155179 burnouts, nutters, junkies, freaks, 8 cans short of a twelver, etc.

 No.155388

>>155190
You sound British

 No.155392

I really miss drugs/booze, one of the few things that makes life worth living for me. Dunno how other homeless can afford it, I guess begging/crime for most?

Found something super useful near me, a community garden. Most suburbs in this city have them, but this one actually has a nice little website I was able to find some info out on, and importantly an email address so I can contact them with less anxiety.
You only have to volunteer for 2 hours a week and you can get free vegetables, plus I think they get together and share snacks sometimes. I'm hoping I can prove myself and the old people will be kind and like me, and obviously networking is the most important thing in getting work (and shelter and facilities to use) so I could imagine a scenario where where someone here could have some kinda work for me or knows someone who does. Feeling good about this, will update in the future.

Any of you made use of a community garden?

 No.155394

Do not post about voluntary real life social activities (e.g. going to a bar or party).

 No.155396

>>155394
you're an idiot, though to be fair it's more likely you're only pretending to be this stupid
this is like saying going to college, or a supermarket or some kinda job is posting about voluntary real life social activities

 No.155397

>>155388 oi, mate, on the whole i'd rather be in bristol right now.
ef this freaking mess.
its pissing down like a bloody monsoon it is.

 No.155402

Alcoholics and drug abusers are the saddest, most miserable and despicable people in the world.

 No.155404

>>155392
The only exp I have had with community gardens was the shitty "field trip" we took in elementary school. Had us working all day weeding in hot weather then had the nerve to pay us in vegetables. Not even the ones that might be tasty to a little kid. No, they had us trying to snack on raw turnips and brussel sprouts. Fuck them commies and fuck that commie teacher. Kept trying to push that shit on us even though we didn't understand nor cared about such things.
I only even realized it when I was older. Would come in wearing Che and sickle and hammer tee shirts for fuck sake.
Getting off topic though.
I didn't have a good time of it but if it is a resource that can help you get off the streets or at the very least fill your belly with quality food then go for it man.

 No.155679

>>144352
heres a tip for surviving the winter. find an open air storage facility holding RVs and cabin cruisers. these are usually near upper middle class suburban neighborhoods. nobody will be using them until summer so you will not have to worry about being discovered. the vehicles usually have propane heating systems and large battery packs. find one thats old and big. older ones are easier to break into and boats are usually easier to break into than RVs. once inside, start the heater. you will be able to watch tv,charge your devices and stay warm and cook a meal for the night. there will be no running water or toilets so bring that stuff with you. only leave or enter at night and dont stay longer than a few days. the longer you stay the more likely you will be spotted.

 No.155690

Any advice or tips for lock picking?

 No.155691

>>155690
Buy a reasonably quality pick set and a few locks and practice. Will take like 30-40 hours of practice until you're reasonable.

 No.155704

>>155690
Personally I find that I only use one pick for everything. Little hook shaped picks. Some others I have talked to prefer the half diamond, but ether way I have literally never met anyone that uses a full set. Honestly the pick isn't even that important unless you are messing with locks with super high tolerances. It is all about the tentioner. The only difference between a "quality" pick and a cheap shitty pick is comfort and durability. Improvised picks and the like are cheap and get the job done just fine but usually a pain in the hands if used for extended periods and don't last very long. A nice professional pick with a nice handle and made from spring steel will have you practicing in comfort for hours and can last for years but if you are caught with it on you in the wrong situation it can get you in a lot of trouble in some places.
As I said before the tentioner is way more important anyway. Finding the one that feels right to you and can properly attack the locks you go up against is key. I like the flat ones, like the ones that come in those cheap spy card kits that are double ended (big side for normal locks and little side for small locks). I feel like I have finer control of the presser and don't have to mess around so much to keep it in the proper place to have tension as with the more common tentioner. But that is just my personally preference.
On improvised tools, I have the most luck with a tentioner made from the spring steal that is in windshield wiper blades that is cut down and bent 90 degrees and a safety pin bent up like a hook as a pick. Not as comfy as a proper pick and my preferred tentioner but it gets the job done and you won't get in trouble for them if you are searched and they are found unless you were caught red handed while using them to pick locks that you don't own or have expressed permission to pick.

As for practice, pad locks are good to practice on. They have everything from the cheap super easy ones to some of the highest security locks you could ever put your pick in and everything in between. Plus they are everywhere including in out of the way places that you can practice on in the field.

One last thing, you don't need rakes/raking picks. You can use your normal preferred pick to rake locks just fine, then without having to switch picks you can finish up a lock or feel it out once you got pins to set from raking.

 No.155708

>>155704
Where can I get lockpicks for free if I don't have money?

 No.155726

>>155708
Did you read my post. I described improvised pick and tentioner from scrap in the post you replied to.
You can also make your own, and there are a lot of ideas and tips on that all over the net.

 No.155771

i was homeless for like 4 hours today because i walked out after getting into a fight with my mother. i walked to the park where they have outlets. i was planning on just sitting there all day every day on my laptop.
my mom came searching for me and brought me back

 No.155773

i plan to buy an abandoned run-down building for very cheap. i would sleep in a tent inside the building so cockroaches don't come near me. i would fix it up as i live in the tent

 No.155814

>>155805
Malls are noisy, dirty and the cold light irritates my eyes. I eat there sometimes, and although I can manage to take out my netbook and read mailing lists or write something tiny, I get very uncomfortable and the fog multiplies.

 No.155815

>>155773
Where you get the money from?
Why not save up for a livable functional but modest house?

 No.155854


 No.155861

i can't even become homeless because if i do my mom will come and try to find me

 No.155908

my mom is so motherly and over protective that there is no way she would kick me out

she would worry about me starving on the street and come looking for me. i already tried to leave and two hours later she shows up trying to get me to come home

 No.155975

any books or guides on dumpster diving?

 No.155976

>>155975
>book made for bums

That must be the worst selling book ever.

 No.155980

File: 1553381129593.pdf (2.36 MB, Art and Science of Dumpste….pdf)


 No.156002

i tend to buy the cheapest food because i think food is a waste of money. you end up shitting it at the end.
normies waste money on taste pleasure lol

i tend to buy only clover valley shit at dollar general

the clover valley oatmeat and cereal are very cheap

 No.156007

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>>153220
>I wonder if the wizard from http://archive.is/FSyGj is still here.
Technically I'm not, since I rarely use wizchan anymore. But I am still in the land of the living.

 No.156015

>>155976
You would be surprised how many people like to larp as street people and dumpster dive despite not really needing to.

>>156002
Dollar store food is a rip off, and food isn't necessarily a waste, it is fuel for your body the same as gas is fuel for a car.

If you got a place you can store food then bulk food is a better value. Get stuff from food banks and hand outs when you can for quality stuff, and places like Walmart will come out as even cheaper then dollar store stuff with better quality if you know what you are looking for. Normal supermarkets can be great if you get things on sale.
I only used dollar stores for stuff like can openers and seasonings when I could help it as I was willing to go the extra few miles to find cheaper options.
Free food making up the bulk of my diet.

 No.156017

>>156015
if you live in the city, dumpser diving isn't amatter of needing to/not needing to, it's a matter of there's free food getting thrown out that's perfectly edible and once you're aware of this you either decide it's not worth your time or decide hey it's free food i will do it

 No.156022

>>156017
But cities already literally hand you free food though.
If you are dumpster diving for food then you are doing it wrong.

 No.156053

>>156022
Free food in cities not first world? Where?

 No.156056

>>156053
From my talks with travelers second world countries like Mexico also have free food in Abundance, same for the islands in the Caribbean.

Only know about north America though since their aren't exactly a lot of globetrotting street people.
From what I hear even 3rd world country like cuba has free food available if you need it, but I think those are probably communist lies as the person I heard that from wasn't actually from cuba.

 No.156136

>>156056
>From what I hear even 3rd world country like cuba has free food available if you need it, but I think those are probably communist lies as the person I heard that from wasn't actually from cuba.
I've met people who went to college in Cuba (it's supposedly pretty good) and from what they told me it's fucking miserable there, no paper to write on, food is scarce, classrooms with way more people than it should have. I once heard all some people have for dinner is a fucking glass of water with a spoonful of sugar. Although that last bit was probably bullshit, and as someone who has lived in a "socialist" country his entire life I tell you never believe socialists lies. If life was so good not everyone would leave for Europe or the USA the first chance they get.

 No.156336

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i thought about becoming homeless and just living out in public on my laptop. is this a viable lifestyle?
there are plenty of outlets at my local park where i can charge my laptop. i think it might even have free wifi. i would need to figure out where to sleep and shower(so people don't know i am homeless). if you look homeless and people know you're homeless you're more likely to be harassed by people and thrown out of stores

 No.156338

purchase a water key at a hardware store. best advice i can give. schools and other public building all use the same 5 or 6 stock keys for outside access to their water supply.

 No.156339

>>156336
Yes, but you're going to want a vehicle to sleep in. car homeless is like so much better than no car homeless. RV is even better, but even more expensive in the long run.

 No.156340

>>156339


i would prefer a van because you can stealth park with it. people will know you're living in a rv.

 No.156341

>>155771
Yeah right you spoiled brat.

 No.156355

do any homeless wizards do anything recreational like play an istrument?

 No.156358

>>156355
I suppose if you're good enough you could play in a street corner for change.

 No.156359

I'd imagine being homeless would destroy your back and your joints pretty badly.

 No.156361

>>156359
Not any more then most lifestyles as far as I can tell.
What makes you think it would?

 No.156389

>>156361
Walking around with gear all day, laying on park benches or sidewalks, shut like that, your sore feet, If I became homeless, I'd make sure I had a big thing of Aspercreme with me.

 No.156394

>>156389
putting crap on a bicycle and wearing sandals is the way to go as far as im concerned, backpacking and walking around fucking sucked

 No.156395

What do you guys think about living in da woods? What would one need to bring and do once in the forest?

 No.156396

>>156395
Tent
medical kit
Bug spray
Tools
Survival guide
Good shoes
Heavy and light clothes
Lighter
I dunno, maybe others can pitch in too.

 No.156397

Guys, I'm making a list of things you would need to have it you were homeless, what should I put in there?

 No.156399

>>156397
Effort

 No.156400

>>156395
Depends on how long you plan on staying and how far away resupplies are.

 No.156403

>>156400
I was thinking on bringing a bunch of potatoes, garlic and other plants with me and grow them near my camp

 No.156404

>>156403
potatoes are good, as well basically any tuber like yams. i would get a book for plant idenfitication though. there are plenty with decent enough advice and it's fun to study the book, go outside, and find something to eat using the knowledge

 No.156452

>>156404
I will tell you as someone who tried that, you will not likely find or be able to processes enough food to keep you fed unless you are very experienced in most areas. You might if you are lucking find enough to keep you from dying, but not enough to keep you from starving. I used foraging to suplement food from other sources rather then as the primare source. You will have better luck literally hanging out in front of a burger place and repeating cheeseburger over and over again until you get enough hand outs to fill your belly. Not that I would recommend that, just saying it will more reliably get you food then foraging in the wild.
Also, most stuff is a real pain in the ass to actually prepare to make it etable. If you don't prepare a lot of wild plants properly you are in for a bad time. Everything from it not being digestible, to making you sick and shitting out whatever was left in your bowls, to straight up poisoning you because it had to be boiled for a few hours and had the water cast off and replaced until it ran clear.
Even simple stuff like acorns take fuck tons of work to make them food.
But hey, maybe you will get lucky some times and find a berry bush or fruit tree that isn't totally infested with bugs. Didn't happen for me but maybe you might get lucky like that. Then you can eat ok for a day or two (hopefully not getting the shits from it).

 No.156499

>>156452
I was thinking about making a lot of pemmican beforehand, that way I could plant some potatoes, yams, garlic and rosemary and not die of starvation.

 No.156739

Find a nice little corner and just wait to die.

 No.156784

Currently I have been seriously considering to enbrace the vagabond life. Essentially I would be a well prepared hobo with proper equipment like boots, a jacket, a tent etc.
I would sleep where ever I could, but mostly I would try to make a hidden camp I could use as a "base" for however long. I am not worried about crime, I live in the alps and robberies or assaults basically dont exist here. Especially since I would stick to the countryside and towns and not bother with the cities.
I dont plan to live of the land because I dont know how, I would just have to survive "of my wits", beg, maybe steal if there is no other alternative. I would love to take a Chiappa Little Badger with me for small game hunting, but thats a problem because I was in the nuthouse plus the pigs will cause trouble would they ever catch me with it.
Anyway I read asking for food works better than money and you need to approach them in a way that they cant just walk away. Money would be saved up for big purchases, like new boots or generaly repleacing things when they finally break down.

When I am temporarily secure I would spend my time reading in the library as this seems to be what bums do. Maybe I could draw with pencils. I generally feel like living that way would clear my tired mind and make me a more focused person.

I am not quite sure I want to carry electronics on me, though the internet is not just fun but also very informative. It would be a big investment and wizards seem to be against it, really the problem is; how do you charge it and how do you access the internet? How do you rate phone-tablet-laptop?

Did anybody here live like this at some point? If yes any input is very welcome.

P.S. I have no future in society either, so that doesnt worry me much about this life.

 No.156786

>>156784
There is a manual dynamo charger thingy for phones. Like you spin a lever and it charges your phone.

 No.156816

>>156786
Something tells me it probably sucks.
Haven't done the math or seen the reviews of them though. Just a hunch.

 No.156825

>>156786
I don't recommend charging anything wth a dynamo.
I had a dynamo flashlight years ago and unless you kept going nonstop the light wasn't very bright. It was pretty tiring too, I can't imagine spinning it for hours to charge a 5% of a phone battery.

 No.156855

>>156784
hmmm, it can be harder doing this strat not in a city, you're kinda in an awkward position where you're not able to take advantage of the city but you're not fully 'innawoods' to take advantage of that either.
like with food, in a city you can have various groups that help those in needs from larger organisations to churches or just concerned locals, food banks, community gardens, dumpster diving etc. before you even need to start begging.

oh you have access to a library? that's pretty vital. that's where you get your free wifi and charge all your shit. bathrooms too. I'd go in with my multiboard and get my vita, 3ds, phones, tablets, laptop, portable battery and kindle all charged up.
without a library for wifi you just have to find somewhere else open… a mall or food place, front of a hotel etc. again much harder outside a city.

what i did was lived on the edge of the city in a big forest, had my hidden camp there like you mentioned, not bad location, less than two walk to the library and supermarket (could bus but that's gonna be a day of food each way) which seems crazy if you're a hiki NEET but you get used to it, not like you have much else to do with your day a lot of the time. if you're lazy like me with so many devices, I'd last for some days in the forest before I 'had' to venture out to recharge them.

you need a smartphone bare minimum, obviously right? the only problem with having all the shit like I did, is that it made me very nervous, I had to protect it. I wouldn't use anything other than my phone in front of people (homeless might want to steal it, resent you, normies be less receptive if they dont think you're on hard times). The more stuff you have the more you have to lose and to worry about.

it's really very dependent on where you are and what you have access to. do the research before hand. I found the people over here who do a free dinner twice a week, I found that place that does the free breakfast at 8:30AM, this van that sets up shop here on friday nights that does a free dinner and drink, here is the community garden I can earn some veggies at, here's where the wifi is, here's where etc. etc. and map that shit out, write it down.
Much easier if you can have a phone with a little data so you can google maps on the go.

also depending on your country, being homeless with little in the bank will give you access to certain emergency benefits/food via the government.

I realise I haven't actually offered much useful to you sorry, but I think you're smart enough to understand what you need to do.

you can get portable batteries that will charge stuff off a miniusb, can get something for well under $100USD that'll charge a phone a few times over. also you can find ac outlets in places other than libraries, food places, malls and such.

 No.156902

Would you recommend wearing darker colors so you don't stand out as much?

 No.156907

>>156902
Depends on the area of coarse. Generally the best way to blend in is to stay relatively clean and presentable. Trying not to have most of the tell tell give aways of being homeless.
Look up stuff related to the concept of Grey Man, to give you a few tips in this regard.
https://www.thebugoutbagguide.com/gray-man-theory/

 No.156951

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Would it be smart to make a shelter under a fallen tree? Perhaps one could out a tarp over it. Pic related.

 No.156952

>>156951
yeah, its basically a wall. so heat that radiates out can be reflected a little back. you can lose so much heat by it radiating it out towards space. ideally you could build a fire across from that and be toasty. its also a solid support for making a structure or lean to

 No.156958

>>156855
Thanks wiz, I do think being in an in between position is the most advantageous, the problem in cities are people and general degeneracy so I dont see why a loner would sleep let alone live there.
What kind of backpack can you recommened? A more compact ALICE type or something taller? Have you ever felt that camo could have come in handy to hide, both your stuff and camp?

 No.156959

>>156951
Generally speaking it isn't smart at all to make a shelter under a fallen tree. If for some reason it shifts you are dead or seriously injured, and it will often have fuck tons of wildlife also living in and under it so you are not going to be alone.
Learn to set up a ridge line between two trees where there isn't a risk of something falling on you. Then set up your tarp over it.

 No.156969

Basically, I'm either going to try and tough it out as a homeless person, or just find a way to kms in the future (presumably some time in the new decade) which one seems more plausible?

 No.156981

>>156969
While you are living you always have a shot of improving your life. I mean homeless is basically rock bottom or close to it so you will really feel even small improvements in your life. If you are dead then it is game over.
Homelessness sucks, but if at any point you get your shit even mildly together you can probably crawl out of homelessness eventually. Ether by getting a job, taking advantage of gibs, or finding someone to mooch off. Just as there are a lot of ways to end up on the streets there are a lot of ways off of them too.
And if worse comes to worst and you are in it for the long haul then I recommend learning skills related to squatting. Just because you ain't got a home don't mean you can't have a roof over your head, if you know what I mean.

 No.157284

Does anybody have experience with vagabonding? (I dont mean the new age definition you will find on google)

Also check this;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Thomas_Knight

 No.157286

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>>157284
Are you new here? Chris is well-known on this site. We even have a banner featuring him and the book about him and his life has been discussed many times over the years.

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>>157286
No, but I usually just read the, post in the same few threads so it must have flown over my head.

 No.157467

in case i become homeless i have been practicing to shave without running water

i used a spray bottle. it actually works. you don't need warm water.

 No.157473

>>157467
I think if you ever end up homeless shaving would be pretty low on your list of priorities.
If you access to stuff to shave, you probably have access to running water.

Speaking of running water, I still don't get why the homeless in CA shit in the street so much. When I was homeless it was never necessary because wherever I went I could still find public bathrooms to use when I needed to shit. There isn't a human shit problem anywhere else on the east cost no matter how high the homeless population gets.
I really don't understand it at all. California isn't India. They have indoor plumbing and bathrooms so why the fuck do they shit in the streets like animals?

 No.157483

>>157473
its a form of protest against the evil white nazi oppressors of the peefull peeples poo flinging and piss perusing party (local 666)…
we had a shit-in 2 weeks ago where they shit all over a major intersection to protest the non-availability of poo palaces for everyone!
they are scum/garbage/drugtards f-wits etc…
trash, just trash…

 No.157486

>>157473

because where there are a lot of homeless people, they get rid of the bathrooms or they block homeless people from using them. on skin row for example, they'll prevent homeless from using the restrooms.
if i were the homeless i would just move out of there. best place to be homeless is a place where there are no homeless because you won't have cops and private businesses looking out for it

 No.157487

>I think if you ever end up homeless shaving would be pretty low on your list of priorities.


it's actually not. looking non-homeless should be one of your main priorities. you don't want to get denied service from businesses and you don't want to be harassed by cops.

 No.157489

>>157486

skid row*

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 No.157524

>>157487
You can grow out facial hair without "looking homeless".

 No.157530

>>157486
>>157489
Shouldn't that be "skidmarks row"?

 No.157536

>>157524

if you have no access to a shower, you will most likely look dirty with a beard

 No.157538

>>157536
>what is washing your face
That is a pretty silly reach. A sink or water bucket, or even cleansing wipes can keep a beard (and body) clean just fine. The only thing I really missed about not having a shower is showers make washing my head hair easier.
It is dead simple to wash your face. Even many times a day. Keeping your body clean while homeless isn't actually that hard.
The hard part that gives you away is keeping your cloths clean and in good condition. Another main give away is carrying tons of shit everywhere.
Ironicly enough the best way to avoid looking homeless is to have enough resources or money to get ether really durable and easy to clean travel cloths or get new (to you) cloths every few days, while also barely carrying anything and acquiring what you need when you need it. Some do the the stash their stuff thing, but those people get their shit stolen or wrecked pretty often unless they are squaters or in a small group that always has one person guarding their shit.

Anyway I am sort of losing the plot.
The short of it is there is no real downside to having a beard as a homeless person as far as I can tell. Both in personal exp, and from talking to other homeless people from many walks of life.

 No.157649

I am deciding to take the vagabond lifestyle. I will travel homelessly in Japan just like that Japan-traveling homeless wizzie did. He has been my inspiration and for years I've yearned to follow in his footsteps and finally it's happening this year.

I will do this this year, I can no longer afford to be afraid and daydream from the comfort and safety of these four walls.

 No.157673

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>>157538



all bearded guys either look homeless or look like bikers or look like truck drivers or look like commune hippies

you will be stereotyped as one of these if you decide to go bearded

 No.157674

you're less likely to get a job if you have a beard. you're not presentable. this is why i would shave if i were homeless

christopher thomas knight shaved to avoid being detected

 No.157738

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>>157673
Now you are just being silly.

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>>157674
>you're less likely to get a job if you have a beard.
This is compleatly false.
The only jobs I have heard or applyied to where having a beard was a problem were things that involved wearing one of those gas-mask type things (cant think of the name of it at the moment). Even in food prep they just give you a hair net for your face rather then tell you to shave.

You don't know what you are talking about dude.

 No.157740

>>157739
respirator mask
That is the thing I was thinking of.

 No.157741

>>157673
Rare picture of RMS in current year

 No.157768

You need a well groomed beard. If it's a wild mess then yes of course it'll be a problem.

 No.157800

Is it possible to deconstruct a car, and turn it into a home?
How would one go about doing that?
I am not homeless at the moment, but I have had ideas for if it does happen
I was thinking to take my car to some woods with some tools and insulation, take out the battery to use for fire starting, find a way to insulate the back area and back seat area (it's a compact suv from the 90s, there is enough room for me in the back, I could remove the seats if necessart) and live back there. I still need a plan on how i'll find food, but I need to know if it would be a decent idea in the first place

 No.157824

>>157738
>>157739


those guys are an exception because they are neatly groomed chads. it's ok for a chad to have a beard

 No.157825

those bearded chads were probably successful way before they grew out those beards which is how they have the leeway to grow them out

 No.158056

I want to drift and hitchhike across British Columbia

 No.158873

This fate sounds terrible, why not just suicide?

 No.158874

>>158056
Sounds nice. Trecking rocky mountainscapes, floating across endless oceanfront, exploring uncharted forestry. There's a lot of adventure to be had. Consider predatory wildlife and harsh winters though. Much of BC is humanized too. If it's not industrial or city, it's likely "cottage country". The cities are cruddy so many people are flocking to the outer areas and naturally appropriation follows. Ontario and QC are the same. There's no escape.

>>158873
Things can always get better. Many men who wind up homeless will not have the existential dread that suicidal people have. They might not be attached to material possessions or comforts enough to consider ending it should those perks be vanquished. They lose some, so now they seek to win some. As long as there's hope for comfort in the future, there's reason to carry on.

 No.159277

>>158874 you do not own things, they own you!
a man's happiness does not consist of the things he owns.

 No.159806

>>159805
pretty cool stuff thanks man

 No.159823

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Living without money

>Tomi Astikainen

https://astikainen.wordpress.com
>Kenny Flannery
https://www.hobolifestyle.com
>Jamie Bowlby-Whiting
https://www.greatbigscaryworld.com/
>Nomad Wiki - General survival guide for Nomads
http://nomadwiki.org/en/Main_Page
>Nomad list - City guide to Nomads around the world
https://nomadlist.com/
>How to live in your SUV
https://www.wikihow.com/Live-in-Your-Car
>Prepaid Data SIM Card Wiki
https://prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com/wiki/Prepaid_SIM_with_data

 No.159934

>>159806
It’s my pleasure, the links are now on the post above. I had to fixed the post.

 No.160339

I've reached a point where being homeless seems preferable to continuing to live with my family.

Of course, I'm scared as all hell. I'm a pampered NEET and living on the street seems insurmountable.

 No.160953

I might need this still

 No.161002

Hey

I have a question, i see a lot of items in this webshop http://item.pictures/12voltbattery that you also sell in your store.
But there items are 43% cheaper, well my question is what is the difference between your store and theirs,
is it the quality or something else, I hope you can answer my question.

greetings

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