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 No.142141[View All]

I made a couple threads about a year ago on homelessness, drifting, and vagabond traveling. A wiz that homeless traveled through Japan recounted his travels in those threads.

Since then I've not been able to forget your experiences and I've thought about them everyday and have wanted to replicate them. I wonder if you're still around wizzie. Anyway, you might remember how I mentioned that I wanted to follow in your steps. Well, I didn't do it. But I'm starting to plan again, and I think I will do it this year.

Are you still out there Japan wiz?
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 No.159127

This is one of the best threads … On the whole Internet. Honestly.
>>159050
Safe travels, please post for us

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>>159100
most of those bookmarks were placed during my second time through and just random stops i made at convenience stores. the first pass through ehime i didn't really do much. i went straight through it to the port of matsuyama to get a ferry and be in yamaguchi/yanai before night.

but i can still write about it. the first pass through ehime was from kochi to matsuyama and involved going through the mountains, over rivers, and lots of small villages. this was probably week 2-3 of being in japan. there was hardly any convenience stores in these places and so that's why i kind of rushed through it. there were abandoned houses and stuff even along the main roads in the mountains. one building was completely rotted inside, no floors, yet the roof was somehow still there. i went inside and looked around and the dirt floor was actually soft and had old papers and clothing and things. i found a bunch of vinyls and a bag, i put the music in the bag and kept them with me for the entire trip, bringing it home at the very end.

another abandoned house along a main road in the mountains was once a store, there was a few others alongside it, and it was situated on a steep slope. you could climb the slope a bit and there was another house further back. that one house was without a doubt abandoned, windows and door were either broken or opened, but the inside kept alright from the roof. it had a lot of knick knacks, books, even pornography vhs. they must have had only 1 daughter because the only other bedroom was full of old 90s electronics and toys, posters, clothing, shoes. there was just stuff everywhere in that room.

also near that house was a store or something, it was opened too. it must have been a woodworking thing, because the bottom level of it was filled with pieces and chunks of wood. back in the day you could have just pulled over from the main road into this gravel area and it would have been part of a strip mall type of thing, with the few other buildings attached stretching out from it. the others weren't opened.

there was an old house to the side as well, it was really old, just had the sliding wooden doors like you now only see on temples. it was completely empty aside from a few stuff. this house was definitely older than all the others yet it looked great inside. the people who lived there must have packed everything up and moved away. it was filled with spider webs and when i opened a sliding closet thing, it was like a family shrine, somewhere they put a photo of their dead parents maybe. the pictures were face down, there was some of the stick incense still there, lighters, and other things. a rat was in the bottom of that space nested in a pile of some fabric. there was some pots in the kitchen, it looked nothing like a modern kitchen, there's wasnt an empty space for the fridge so they must not have had one.

further into the mountains was another abandoned building, the front door was open. it had two almost hot-tub sized tiled pools in the front, and the floor was littered with crab shells. there was living arrangements in the back of this, and the blankets in the sliding wall closet things still looked clean. they had carpet on this floor, there was dead bugs and things but nothing else really. upstairs was another carpeted loft, there was a small animal skeleton in here, like a cat or dog size. there was also a few glass baubles with an opening on one end lying around the floor. they were pretty big like 14 inches in diameter, i think they were street lantern bulb covers because in some other areas they have similar big glass bauble lanterns wrapped in a net-patterns of rope.

that was all in between kochi/ehime. aside from the abandoned houses you went through a lot of tiny villages and villages that are built onto steep slopes. the mountains mostly have bamboo. in between the mountains there's usually a river deep down. there's a lot of bridges. you end up going through a few mountain tunnels, and using roads made by leveling off part of the slope. so one side will be the mountain, the other will be a railing and you can always look around. on the mountain side the use a lot of concrete and rebar to reinforce the side, there's also huge metal guards and mesh things sticking out and driven up along the mountain to contain falling rocks. sometimes near cities they'll place geometric concrete forms, or maybe they mould the conrete with the patterns, but you'll see hexagons and fake rock/brick along it.

it seemed like just old people lived in these places. they do a lot of farming somehow, you also see small plots for vegetables and things people groe for themselves around their houses. on the top of many of these mountains, there are little temples and shrines.. i think this is because mountains are kami. they are a pain in the ass to reach but once you're on top it's mostly the same everywhere. they have stone blocks or actual stone stairs leading all the way up with the arches at either end, a thing for washing your hands that's usually full of nasty water breeding mosquitos, small tiny house shrines along the border, and the actual temple building.

coming down from the mountains to matsuyama, it was really steep, going on my bicycle i was afraid of how fast it was accelerating me, and there was a lot of curves, if you went over the railing on the edges you could maybe die. so i was going down with my brakes on not even pedaling. toward the end however you get this sight from above of matsuyama, the coast, and the bamboo between you and it. at the very end you are going down still very fast but it stops curving and you are rewarded with this straight 'slide' almost. i coasted for a few minutes down this road and it was so much fun seeing everything appear. then you know you get into the actual city at this point. all the cities look the same to me and i don't really pay attention to stuff inside them. i ended up finding a mall and i bought rubber croc shoes. i then went northwest to the port, got a ferry ticket to yanai/yamaguchi, and waited in line. i basically go to the front and wait for all the cars to board and be secured inside the cargo of the ferry, then at last i go in, a guy takes my bike and attached it to the side, and i go up. a ferry has a big cargo thing on the bottom level, and then above it there's a lobby. there are bathrooms, usually an open area filled with vending machines that cook ramen for you, serve ice cream cones, or just soda/snacks, there's also rooms to the side with windows and stuff so you can look around. the people in the lobby didn't really talk, there must have been 40 passengers though. they all were on their phones, were reading, or using a tablet or something. most of the people on tablets were reading digital manga. deboarding is basically the same as boarding but in reverse with me last.

it was night when i got off, and i didn't think it would rain, so i just went to the nearest temple and slept in front of it on the ground. during the night i could hear some guy beating up a succubus and people yelling at each other. attached are some pictures taken between muroto and matsuyama. aside from the stuff i can definitely remember and the pictures that show street signs i'm not sure where they were exactly taken, but it definitely covered going through ehime my first time.

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 No.159140

>>159137
where did you get money for the ferry?

 No.159141

>>159137
>those triangular/caltrop shaped breakwaters
I love that. It's a very small but very japanese thing.

 No.159142

>>159140
before trip i called bank and got sent debit card with a working chip so i could buy stuff in japan. it's probably like $20-30 which isn't much when you don't have to pay for a place to sleep. you have to take a ferry to get to and from shikoku though unless i didn't know about a bridge. to go south into kyushu you can use an elevator and actually go through an underwater tunnel

 No.159150

I arrived yesterday. From today on I sleep outside. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get to Mt. Fuji.

 No.159154

>>159150
i would take your time and don't feel like you're in a rush. it took me 2 months before i realized i didn't always have to be traveling and sitting down to look at stuff is fine. you're basically on vacation

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I just remembered something funny. On one of my last days, at one train station in Tokyo there was an information center. I asked employee where i can put my trashbag. I did it just to see their reaction. I expected her to point me in some direction or say to keep it but instead she said "Just give it to me, sir" and bowed slightly with her cup shaped hand gesture to take the trashbag from me. They do this on trains too. There are ladies going through cars from time to time and collecting trash. I always tried to put trash directly into their big trashbags but they insisted on taking it from me to put it away themselves. Btw there are trashcans next to entrance/exit of cars, so it isn't like there are no trashcans at all. Now imagine this level of… attitude, devotion or professionalism in "the west" railways. It all probably boils down to economy. Emptying stationary small trashcans or having one person go through cars from time to time. I personally think other nations just cant be taught to not litter so they place trashcans everywhere in hopes that someone might bother to use it.
>>159150
If you ever come close to it beware of the bears. Perhaps wear a bell ring just in case.

 No.159211

I finally made it to Shikoku. It cost me a lot of money which I'm not happy about but it's done. I'm trying to practice detachment as the Buddhists preach. I'm at Temple 6 right now, thankfully it has WiFi. It's very tiring and the sun hurts and the heat and walk carrying my backpack is oppressing. But I can't turn back.

Now I'm off to continue onto Temple 7. I've got two hours till sundown. Hopefully I can make it to a few more temples before it's time to find a place to sleep.

>>159137
>>159192
Thanks for sharing. I don't have the individualism required for just going anywhere so I've set myself to do the Shikoku pilgrimage. I need to be told what to do, I don't work well with winging it, it seems.

I didn't end up going to Mt. Fuji. I took a line as far from Tokyo as I could then went to a bus station. None of the buses were heading close to my destination so I gave up and headed to Shikoku.

 No.159213

>>159211
Japanese Buddhist temples have wifi? Why can't churches have it in Canada

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 No.159216

>>159213
the temples are all businesses basically. having free wifi so people can post selfies and dumb pictures is basically free advertising. makes sense to me

 No.159233

>>159213
Some do. Not all unfortunately. Only two, IIRC, that I've been to so far had WiFi.

 No.159258

>>159192
Can you tell me where you bought your mamachari? If I recall it was like $40, or just cheap. I also think I'll get a bike.

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>>159258
not him i got mine from a walk in "mall tunnel" (see pic) i dont know what they're actually called but they are streets turned into tunnels almost with the street covered so you can shop around during bad weather im guessing

probably bicycle shops in a city will sell them though, it would be very weird if they didn't

 No.159379

I might have the opportunity to do this, but with Russia instead.

 No.159380

>>159379
Is this something that's safe to do, even for a native Russian? Most of Russia is wilderness, ripe with dangerous predators and terrain. Combine those with territory made hostile by border disputes and other politics and you might find yourself stuck in the middle of nowhere without a direction to go. That is assuming you're going to be trekking across the country.

If you're staying in the urban areas then I'm sure you'll be fine. From what I hear (probably mostly pop culture crap though) there are plenty of neat abandoned towns and cities where tourists like to visit. You might find yourself a whole apartment complex to live alone in.

 No.159381

>>159380
It might be dangerous in the arctic north, but not really the more temperate parts. I'm mostly just interested to see if it's possible. If I try it, I'll just make a thread here and chronicle once in a while.

 No.162037

I just found this thread again.
A few years ago I remember reading a thread where one guy was explaining how to live a good hobo life to other people. IIRC he was squatting overnight at mcmansions that are listed for sale and just before dusk he would leave the condo again without leaving any traces, dirt or vandalizing anything.

Thank you for posting anons. This is always the best content you can wish for. Real experiences from real people.
This comes now at a time when I want to go on an adventure myself but mine would start in Hong Kong and follow the Silk Road back home to Yurop. The only problem I am experiencing is visa regulations. IIRC China and Russia used to give you an entry date and a GTFO date and those were not negotiable and if you miss them you are setting yourself up for trouble.

>>159379
I would love to board the train from moscow to vladivostok, then take a ferry to japan, travel to hokkaido, back to fukuoka, again the ferry to south korea, ferry to china, china back to moscow by train. That would be awesome.
Or alternatively, from Fukuoka to Naha, Naha Taiwan, Taiwan Hong Kong.

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I browsed through my wizardchan forlder and finally found the screencaps I made one time
it was about this anon who gave a guide on how to live a good homeless life
now I am gonna post it here because the thread is long gone

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part 2

you know, homelessness is a thing that will most likely affect everyone of us at some stage in our lives

 No.162458

>>162438
>>162439
Thank you for this anon. If I become homeless (which is a real possibility) I want to be prepared

 No.162475

>>162458
you welcome
I will become homeless eventually too. Mommy and daddy will not put up with my faggotry for another 30 years that is sure.
are you american perhaps?

I always am envious of americans because they have a giantic country with all types of climates so if you became homeless in america, you could travel to florida into a nice climate and you at least will not freeze for 5 months of the year. With that problem solved already you can focus on the other problems.
Rain also becomes less of a problem in warm climates. It becomes a rather nice refreshment during the day when temperatures reach the sweating zone.

Also bathing becomes much easier. Imagine you live in a tent at a foresty area near the ocean and you begin each day with swimming in the ocean. You can clean your laundry every day and the clothes will dry in the sun quickly. you can go take a bath every time after taking a dump and never stink. You can use a solar charger to charge your smartphone and access internet through LTE from pretty much everywhere. You can make a blog or youtube videos and earn some dollars on the side every day.

Then you pack your backpack and drive on your bicycle to town to buy food and collect plastic bottles and cans to sell. Or to do whatever you want to do. To see things you always wanted to see. visit a national park whatever. For food I think one big meal with meat every 2 or 3 days would be sufficient. Most of us are overweight anyways so dieting would be good for health. Water can usually be found everywhere, from little rivers to fountains in town.

It would be like an eternal beach vacation just without the comforts of a hotel, but with maximum freedom.

 No.162476

to clarify
I want to become a homeless by choice actually. Something like a vagabond. Travelling by bike from wherever I want to be to wherever it takes me.
I just don't want to be detected as one by normalfags. For example they might throw you out of supermarkets if they suspect you being homeless and police might hassle you. Also other bums will think you are a potential victim and will try to robb you.

I also remember there was one guy posting about being a stealth homeless or something. I think he had a library member card and a gym card for hygiene and browsing the web and on the streets nobody would have believed him he was homeless.
And I remember the other guy posting that shoes are very important and other homeless will ofter try to steal your good shoes or something.

If anyone has screencaps of those postings, I would appreciate them very much.

 No.162478

>>162476
Look, if you have to live with your parents, as an adult, you're homeless, it's just nobody calls it that.

 No.162479

>>162475
Yes, I'm American.
America does have a wide variety of climates. Remember though that America lacks a real public transportation system, so travelling around usually means hitchhiking (Which is fine, It's safe).

Making money as a homeless person is not difficult. By money, I mean enough to survive, you won't have your IRA maxed out or anything. There are various odd jobs available. There's often harvests going on around the states you can participate in. Busking is also available.

Bicycles are double edged swords. They are often stolen. But they do provide you with a way to get around that obviates social interactions.

If you can settle into it a vagabond lifestyle seems very alluring to me. I don't want to deal with normalfags, and this lifestyle allows me to do my own thing. Of course, it's never as good as it sounds.

 No.162485

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Did the most recent JP wiz finish their trip? It seemed short. Today is the end of my first month here and it's been nice. I landed at KIX and planned on following original Japan Wiz's route but since I brought cold-weather camping stuff I went north on a whim, toward Gifu. I remember watching a video as a kid (back when Google Video was still around) of someone driving through the mountain roads north of Gifu city, huge valleys and ravines beyond the guardrail dropoff and little waterfalls and groves here and there between breaks in the rock face.


After 180 miles carrying a 30lb pack I can agree that walking was definitely a mistake. I packed too much even though I read Japan Wiz's advice. I'm going to take a train back into the city and look for a proper used bike and some saddlebags. As far as sleeping outside goes it's quite peaceful in the cities. I can't bring myself to just pass out on a bench but it's easy enough to tuck yourself away somewhere that you can't be seen. The trouble begins when you get out of the city, at least in my case.


The fucking boars. And monkeys. My time in the mountains has been brief, mostly enjoyable during the day, irritating at night until I realized the toothpaste and probably other toiletries in my bag was attracting the fauna. The monkeys sat near and screeched 'til witching hour. When you finally drifted off there was sniffing and snorting to take their place. I spent a week wondering if I was going to wake up with a boar trying to gore me through my hammock. At least the bears are hibernating now.

 No.162489

how do you do for bathing?
do you use hot springs in the vicinity or do you just skip it completely?
I mean when you are outside of cities nobody will notice anyways but I hate this feeling when I am filthy and cannot sleep when I go unshowered to bed

does it go away?
for greassy hair I read this only occurs in the beginning and then completely goes away after a few weeks of not bathing and using this chemical stuff
for deodorant it probably goes the same way I guess
and what do you do for drinking water. packing a gallon of it with you is probably not the most comfy solution but then you are restricted to travelling where rivers are and main transportation routes


>>162485
it is probably your proviant that is attracting them
for forest camping there is a saying that you should not sleep where you cook because bears will come to visit you if you cooked something nice

 No.162492

>>162489
easiest answer to hygiene is to say fuck it and do nothing. for water, just put it on your bicycle somewhere. i don't know who in their right mind would want to backpack and carry everything anyway

 No.162493

>>162492
the alternative for bathing would also be to just warm up some water in a kettle, put some soap in and soak a small towel with it. remove excess water from the towel and rub yourself locally with the wet towel.
then you take a dry towel to get yourself dry. you will be exposed to coldness only a few minutes and survive it. keep your hair short cut and you can dry your hair with the dry towel only. then overnight you let both towels to dry out

I saw one thing a homeless lady did for warmth. there was a jelly cream like a soap and she would smear it on a metal plate and inflamm it with her lighter.
she said if she does it in her tent, the warmth from the little flame gives a cozy feeling but without toxic gasses or anything. I think that would be a nice way to heat up your tent a little before bed time.

the premium version is public swimming pools and those toilet facilities at big airports and train stations. places where you can pay a few euros to take a dump and shower. I think they have lockers to stuff your things away even.
public swimming pools also have toilets and showers and you can go swim a few laps if you have a swimming trunks

 No.162503

I have been at the mall today and looking at backpacks
I found one huge type that is really sturdy and high quality but it weighs 3.5kg (7 pounds)
It was one from Deuter (traveller 80L)
then for tents I found all types from 1.5kgs to 5kgs. Generally the sturdier the structure the more it will weigh. I found one that is quite waterproof but not that heavy (2.5kg).

now before I buy any of this stuff, I wanted to ask what you really need for being a stealth urban camper. I had the backpack on my shoulders and it does weigh much. If I have this on my back 8 hours every day I would rather have the least possible amount of luggage as possible.
if I stuff a waterproof tent into it and a sleeping bag it will already have 10kg
I then thought if I am travelling by bike anyways, I can get one of those chariot thingys and just throw my junk on it. But then I would be limited to paved roads. I could not enter a mountain forest and then set up camp there.

Japanwiz anon I wanted to ask you one thing too. How much luggage did you have with you while you were on your Japan trip? I read you threw most of your stuff away after only a few days. I wonder how heavy your pack was. You mentioned you were sleeping at train stations, bus stops, bridges or in abandonned buildings. So you did not have a tent with you, right? The bugs must have eaten you alive.

I fucking hate being landlocked in yurop. what is even the point of living when weather is ugly and insufferable for 5 months of the year and barely better for another 3 months of the year.
If I were in america I could just travel to florida and never worry about freezing.
Canary islands and Crete are the only viable destinations in yurop to not freeze your ass in winter every day. But those are tourist hotspots with extra tight regulation on guerilla camping.

just when I found out what I wanted to do, bureaucratic crap destroys all my plans

 No.162505

>>162503
>How much luggage did you have with you while you were on your Japan trip?

just 1 hiking backpack, but it was absolutely filled.

after a few days i progressively threw away clothing and shoes and stuff so it was maybe 40% lighter but still a pain in the ass

i got a bicycle and it had a front basket. i kept my backpack there and could also shove some stuff around it like a water jug.

later on i got some steel mesh type stuff at a dollar store and ziptied/taped it together to create a basket for the back as well

with my new bicycle storage i was carrying around maybe 3 backpacks worth of things and it wasnt hard


>You mentioned you were sleeping at train stations, bus stops, bridges or in abandonned buildings. So you did not have a tent with you, right? The bugs must have eaten you alive.

no tent, just a sleeping bag. the mosquitos did destroy me, it wasnt until winter that the mosquitos stopped being a problem too so i would probably get a tent if i did it again outside of winter

 No.162506

thank you for your reply japanon

about your sleeping
you were there for november and a few days of december too.
How did your sleep feel?
Did you freeze a lot of the time?
I read you were drinking lots of liquor, did you do this to numb away the coldness?
I cannot imagine myself sleeping outside at those temperatures we have now like you did. Even with a winter coat, at night it is just disgustingly cold.

 No.162507

>>162506
>How did your sleep feel?
great. i was sleeping on the floor for a few years before japan so i was used to a hard surface. i had a microfleece kind of blanket inside my sleeping bag. i'd wrap myself up like a mummy and then slide into the sleeping bag

>Did you freeze a lot of the time?

as long as you eat lots of food you should be warm, food is ultimately your fuel. you aren't moving when sleeping but you are still insulated. during the day you are exercising like a madman pedaling bicycle so you generate lots of heat

>I read you were drinking lots of liquor, did you do this to numb away the coldness?

i didn't ever have alcohol before japan so i maybe went a little overboard. it was just to enjoy the drunken feeling though

 No.162514

>>162507
wanted to ask you another thing
I plan to do a trip to japan but I wanted to avoid the metro regions as far as possible
I wanted to travel to rural regions and stay at one of the traditional inns.
hopping from small town to small town.
best would be if there was an onsen on the compound

did you see lots of those things on your travel? I also read there was this shikoku pilgrimage thing and so I thought if this is a common thing for monks, there should be some type of inn or guest house where people can stay for the pilgrimage.

I thought of taking the night train from tokyo to takamatsu and then buy a bike to travel the route by bike
I would travel for one day, then stay at some town for 2-3 days, see what they have there, bathe in the hot springs and keep on. There are lots of towns there around the coasts and I wonder if each of them has a hostel or inn or anything where you can sleep in a bed. did you see any of those while there?

then about abandonned buildings too
did you see many of those while there?
I know in youtube there are urban exploration videos where they do this type of stuff but what you described with raiding the pervert dungeon of some guy was better than any horror story. Did you see many of those abandonned buildings or even towns?
japan has an ageing problem and young people flee the villages for wagie lives in the city. when the old people die, there is nobody to live in the house anymore

also, seriously, consider writing down your expieriences into a book.
especially with those photographs you took, it would be a good read and many people would love to read it.

 No.162516

>>162514
>I plan to do a trip to japan but I wanted to avoid the metro regions as far as possible
you'll inevitably start out in the big cities. if you have somewhere in mind you really want to be, i suggest getting a rail pass and just teleporting there in the beginning. i did that to get out of inner osaka, it was kind of a nightmare to see all the people just walking around

>did you see lots of those things on your travel?

when outside 24/7 you'll be seeing everything around you, without internet or electronic entertainment it all becomes kind of interesting

>I also read there was this shikoku pilgrimage thing and so I thought if this is a common thing for monks, there should be some type of inn or guest house where people can stay for the pilgrimage.

there's rest stops, like these little huts along the pilgrimage in shikoku. you can just sleep there. it's literally just a roof over your head though, nothing special or accomodating. anything more than that and it will cost money i think. the way i justified being cheap and not sleeping inside was, maybe with the money i saved i could have enough for another trip. it really worked out but i didn't go again

>There are lots of towns there around the coasts and I wonder if each of them has a hostel or inn or anything where you can sleep in a bed. did you see any of those while there?

not sure, i was never looking for houses to sleep in. the only buildings i really looked out for were shrines/temples and convenience stores so if the building didn't look interesting i didn't really pay attention to them

>then about abandonned buildings too did you see many of those while there?

>Did you see many of those abandonned buildings or even towns?
yeah, it's a big problem for the rural places like you said, the older generation sends their kids to the city and they rarely ever come back. a lot of places are now just towns full of old people and half the buildings have no one living in them

>also, seriously, consider writing down your expieriences into a book.

maybe not in book form but i'll eventually just write down stuff that happened each day. i wrote during the trip each day anyway so there's no risk of anything being forgotten, no rush. here's part of a note from day 30:
"slept beyond ino, in a village with a temple. has huge trees, a tree path with lots of torii. charged phone + camera, listened to music, got yelled at by monkey things at night. stopped and made notes of plants in my books. bought 5 carrots, 4 bananas for 150 yen. ino paper museum, caligraphy, history, citrus fruits, ice cream, kochi convenience store, omotenashi… talked to family, mom is sick"

from that little note i can remember where i was, here's the place i bought carrots from https://goo.gl/maps/bJGxmzNceS5fQM6P6 and the temple with the tree/torri path i slept at and got harassed by the monkeys https://goo.gl/maps/QwX3PbAecVtVQuY98

 No.162523

I finally found out how the thing is called where I wanted to stay
the word is Ryokan. a small woodden guest house where you sleep on a futon and can bathe in a hot spring.
one just like the guest house where yoh in shaman king lives. that would be comfy as fuck
some of them even serve breakfast and dinner but I wanted to eat in local shops anyways and try out many different foods

I thought in every smaller town along the main roads there must be at least one of those every few kilometers run by farmers or fisher families as a side business. travellers back in the day used to stay overnight in those.
However, a few minutes ago I found out they are double the price of normal hotels
seems like this has now become some kind of tourist attraction

I thought in rural areas you could stay overnight for maybe 50$ and then continue the travel.
now as time passes, I feel like this travelling thing is not for me. it is not even that I wanted to see anything special there, just when I have to go somewhere, at least let it be some place where people are polite and where my backpack will not get stolen if I leave it unwatched for a few moments.

Aomori and Izumo were the things I wanted to see most. Maybe Mt. Hakone as well
and taking the night train from tokyo to izumo.

 No.162524

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>research night trains in japan
>all but 2 lines have been discontinued
>the northern line connecting tokyo and sapporo was scrapped in 2015
>Yoh used to travel to Aomori from Tokyo using this line
it is really sad that trains are dying
I wonder why normies prefer airports to train stations
you have to go through so many checks. At train stations, you just board the train and get off whenever you want to

 No.162544

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>>162524
perhaps its a case of efficiency. Equal price but uneven time. Look into bus travelling. There are more of night bus rides than train ones.
>>162523
Tyokans are cool but be careful where you book it. I booked only one (through rakuten travel) and nobody there was speaking any english. I had a feeling that ryokans are "japanese only" thing. Use bookingcom or agoda. There was a 100 years old home that looked a little creepy (Kominka Sharehouse Hooju). So they are find-able.
> I feel like this travelling thing is not for me […] and where my backpack will not get stolen
I had the same thoughts before boarding the plane. It all went smooth after all(especially if you know english language very good).

The only thing to consider is knowledge of moonrunes. My trip was awesome but it kinda felt like watching anime without subs.

>>162507
>i didn't ever have alcohol before japan so i maybe went a little overboard.
In my eyes that proves that Nippon alcohol is decent. Most people just pretend to like it and drink it because of social reasons. This guy here tried it for the first time and liked it not because of social pressure but just because it was good.

>>162503
Please be mindful of those "Backpack frame/Frame Stays" things. I had a backpack with 2 steel flat bars going from top to bottom. One of them ripped through its socket and it was uncomfortable as hell to walk with it afterwards.

Btw. I have old, soviet photo cameras from 80's or older. Do you guys think it would be profitable to try and sell them in one of those hipster camera shops in japan?

One other thing is those places seen in some anime "class field trip" episodes like pic related. Perhaps they can be used by travellers for a rest place

 No.162551

>>162544
>the mandatory field trip episode
yeah that is when they go to the rural areas, stay at a ryokan and bathe in the hot springs

>like watching anime without subs

lol yeah that must be the feeling there
this is the other concern I have. I speak no japanese and I wonder if having a book with pre translated standard phrases would be sufficient
the other thing I worry about is their food. I don't really like their cuisine apart from curry rice and most ryokans are serving traditional dishes to show off how good their food is. I wouldn't want to be rude to them and waste their food on me.

>backpack / frame

I read that fjallraven uses wood for their frames so I guess it would be less likely to rip open your pack. but this backpack thing. I just bought a 31l one for city trips. north face surge. I can put (sun)glasses, city maps, bottles smartphones and booklets in special compartements. much more handy than the one I have now and also sturdier. So when I go groceries shopping I can use that to transport beverages in bottles.

Maybe if I make a camping trip in summer, I will get one of those real backpacks and a real tent+sleeping bag just to try it out once. I never went camping my entire life and in my area they have designated camping places at lakes where they even ahve barbcue, toilets and showers for a few dollars a day. The alternative would be the mountains but hotels are expensive if you stay longer than a few days and just want to escape the climate. last summer was horrible in yurop.

I thought of packing my bags and just going there entire summer because when it gets hot you can't do anything anyways. So best just be slacking around the lake entire day. I could charge my smartphone by solar panel during the entire day and then browse internet in the night for a few hours even. Now I figured why california has so many homeless on skid row. the mild climate does solve many problems for them conveniently.

 No.162552

This is the most peculiar yet interested thread I have ever seen on the internet. Question, how was would it be for a black guy to travel or be homeless in Japan? Is it worst then prison?

 No.162553

>>162552
Being black will attract a lot of attention and suspicion. Being homeless and black is definitely not a good idea

 No.162555

>>162553
No, Japanese people think blacks are funny like apes. They'll probably feed you for free from the novelty.

 No.162556

>>162552
as a wizard, probably it'd be bad since you get a lot of attention as a foreigner. being black just means you are that much more easily recognized. i don't think anyone would treat you that bad. it's mainly people might see you as a novelty and come up to you which seems annoying

 No.162592

>>162552
Good idea. They might be scared of you and in leave you alone. Then you can enjoy the weeabo stuff.

 No.162601

>>148647
Because it's not the USA.

 No.162623

>>162555
This. They were always racist. I hate how kids today watch anime and "just wow WOW" at the subtle anti-black things they notice in anime. I had my comments deleted by (((kissanime))) explaining things like this before. They even get mad at fullscreen now days, even sometimes stretch out fullscreen ratio for no logical reason. It's such a shit show, modern Internet sites. They ban over ublock too.

Anyway, yes I concur they were racist. It's why they admittingly have xenophobia.

 No.162626

>>162623
Honestly just use 9anime but anyway since I'm feeling generous here's how to avoid getting banned for having ublock (i think this is working)

First copy and paste this link (only the link, no need to download) into your ublock by going to your filter list and then import and should be able to copy and paste it there

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Yumire/kiss-filters/master/filters.txt

Then go to your extensions store and get "nano defender" (If you have problems with ublock then use "nano adblock" instead)
And you should be good to go

 No.162635

>>162626
9anime crashes my old laptop and I don't even remember if it allows you to save videos. But thanks for the option I guess. I won't bother to try it because computers generally always fail me more and more the older I get. Emuparadises workaround for instance didn't work, so I had to move on to a shittier site as always. I miss older sites, and I can't be bothered to cope better than I already do. Not that emu was the last straw or anything, I'm just saying all this bullshit isn't worth my time.


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