socrabtes never said nor wrote that.
Xenophon quotes Socrates as saying such, in Apomnemoneumata.
Tried doing some basic training today, some push ups, sit ups, etc.
20 min working with +1min breaks. In the end I was almost having a cardiac arrest.
A few months ago I was training hard, teaching myself self defense skills and trying to build some muscle resistence. I live in a violent neighborhood so I need to be prepared for everything. Depression made me stop, but now I'm willing to try again for basically the same reasons plus I've got really fat and my health's declined to risky levels.
I'll keep going with the basic stuff til I'm good enough for an advanced training.
i'd like to but im extremely weak, also cant do anything that involves putting pressure on my wrists.
I live with my last boomer parent and the house is falling apart. I do yard word for exercise. Things that changed, I felt good having a set goal with things that needed to be done (ex. mow grass, cut down limbs/wild trees, pull weeds, weedeater overgrowns parts of yard, fill in holes, pick up trash, repair siding/flashing, paint, etc) and the sunlight with fresh air was okay. The benefits, however, quickly are overshadowed by the negative. I now have sunburn, my body aches, insanely lowered libido for some reason, headaches from unlimited amount of work still needed to be done, poor sleep (maybe 4-5 hours and then I'm awake), constantly needing to shower otherwise skin is clammy and gross when trying to lay down. The problems have piled up but my autism in wanting me to see something to completion, so I'm stuck doing it at least until my ideal vision is completed for the outside of the home, nevermind the inside being a hoarders hell house (thanks dead dementia father and crazy psychopathic mother!).
>>158801>“Besides, it is a disgrace to grow old through sheer carelessness before seeing what manner of man you may become by developing your bodily strength and beauty to their highest limit."
Notice the besides.>>158803
Everyone begins weak wizzie. Continue steadfast and soon you will no longer be weak.>>158805
Sunburn can be managed with sun block. As for body ache, I find the pain enjoyable. And lower libido is a positive thing in any case.
I have done powerlifting routines and light cardio for several years on and off. I started running as a teenager after being motivated by a visual novel, then after ~1 year of that got into weight lifting. College and wageslaving have interrupted it a lot, just I got back into it again this month after around half a year wageslaving that took up almost all my time. Gained a lot of weight from stress eating so I'm trying to lose it while also bringing my lifts back up to what they were previously.
I enjoy exercise primarily as a stress reliever these days, lifting and jogging help to clear my mind. Plus it feels physically good for me to hit my body hard.
I suspect the OP made this thread partially to get reactions like this and complain about them.
Hey I pulled a muscle in my arm, I don't actually lift but in some freak accident carrying something heavy it happened and it seems to be from a downward pull on it. I can move my arm now fully and it's been around a week and right around the shoulder in certain position conveniently the position they are in on my side when I sleep is where I feel the most. The worst thing is when it's agitated the pain will radiate for a while too. How long does something like this take to completely heal? The painsomnia is driving me mad.
Have you never masturbate anon? The high from an orgasm melts away tension and allows me to sleep or just to 'relax'. Having zero libido is terrible if you rely on it for sleep and are just in general dopamine seeking (ie. addicted).
I do kettlebell swings, easy enough to do and they do built a stronger back muscles. Basically fixed my back posture now if only there was something to help me fix my neck.
Dumbbells and basic calishenics.
I've been sedentary for years now, getting tired of being a fat fuck who can't find clothes.
Problem is after some progress i'm hitting a wall on all fronts, Guess it's my diet but i can't wrap my head around it in terms of cooking cheap and easy meals that don't require a gajillion ingredients.
I get more than enough exercise from working. Really don't see the point of wasting time to achieve peak physical form when every morning I call for death.
Me too, plus I don't drive and carry a lot often so there's that too. The gym is pretty useless to me. I take a weird peace of mind in being overly physically exhausted though.
I've been doing Convict Conditioning for almost 3 years now. I altered the program a lot because I recently did get some more noticable aches in my elbows and left upper leg and that made me question the competence of the author overall. I found big form improvements for all the basic bodyweight exercises like raising the heels when squatting down and doing knuckle pushups/dips, keeping the hand "vertical" instead of the standard horizontal. A bunch of other stuff. I started doing handstand pushups (facing the wall, seems better and I can't even get up into the starting position otherwise) and some light wrestler's bridges for some neck and posture gains. I haven't gained much size in these 3 years which made me realize that literally 50% or so of the male population is on steroids kek but whatever. Life is fun right now.
I also do kettlebell swings. Ive been adding reps and going up in weights slowly for the past couple years. I havent had any back pain for a long time now. At this point my goal in working out is just to reach a level of intensity that puts out endorphins and doing a bunch of consecutive swings wears me out like nothing else. I also have a pull up bar. I do circuits of kettlebell swings, pull ups, push ups, and kettlebell squats which seems to hit everything hard and exhaust me in the right way to consistently trigger mood boost for me.
Not true necessarily, it’s very hard to gain mass with body weight
Yes, I'm at 285 bench, 315 squat and 335 deadlift. Been doing it for about a year now, embarrassingly enough because I decided I wanted to look like a character from an anime.
>>159094>embarrassingly enough because I decided I wanted to look like a character from an anime.
You still have less embarrassing motivations that all the gymbros who only lift for succubi approval, which accounts for probably 80% of the people you see in there on a daily basis.
Currently my bench is 100 lbs, my squat is 100 lbs and my deadlift is 100 lbs. Overhead press is also 100 lbs.
Can you guess what the max weight of the set I have at home is?
I really don't want to go to the actual gym but I am also not make of money and my vinyl weight set was cheap as fuck. Even if the bar can't handle more weight than came with the set.
I don't think it's really anything to be embarrassed about, here at least. I've gotten a lot of my motivation for working out from otaku media.
Impressive bench btw, but I'm confused as to why it's so high relative to your squat and deadlift. >>159099
I've always gone to 24 hour gyms at around 1 or 2 in the morning when no one is there. I hate working out around people.
I started exercising about a year ago. I don't do it hard or often enough but still I'm considerably stronger now. I've always been very weak compared to other people, but a few days ago my sister was testing a blood pressure thing for my dad on me and she said "your arm is so big now". Pretty good hearing that.
I only lift to look like Big Boss from MGS3.
that's an impressive overhead press when you take your other lifts into account
Exercise destroyed me. When I didn't exercise I could at least distract myself with hopes of getting fit and strong, but after trying for years I know it is absolutely impossible and that even on a physical level I am absolute garbage.
thats pretty commendable, in many ways you are actually initiating your body for the first time into physical labor that many men have destroyed their bodily well being by. You will adapt, and that autism serves you and I well, you will see this through no matter what. The pain and the end of a days honest work are irreplaceable feelings most of us never experienced. The saddness, and melancholic depravity from being static furthered our softness over time. Keep going man
I love calisthenics, it exercises all muscles really well, and helps me deal with the self imposed cabin fever that comes with isolation. I really recommend it if you have a park in your area equipped for it (most parks do), or maybe get a bar for your house if you can afford it.
For anyone who doesn't exercise, even if you don't like calisthenics, do any kind of exercise, indoors or outdoors. I don't know how to describe it, but building up energy day after day with no relief is detrimental for your mental health.>>159094
We all have our heroes>>159172
Can you elaborate?
Although I go about cycling at least once every week, I do not make any other kind of physical activity but walking downtown to buy me tobacco and tea. I should be lifting or doing some other kind of activity - maybe Yoga or some martial art. The problem with lifting is that it costs money, and besides being poor I have no job. I do not think that it would be nice to ask my mother to spend the house income on this, we have other priorities. Maybe I could be cycling more than I'm currently doing, but I have some kind of muscular condition in my thighs that make my knees a bit weaker, this condition should be addressed by only oriented physical exercise, at least is what I heard from doc.
It should be enough, though you'll want to look into doing more exercises to build more muscle, or rather turning all the fat into bulk. From what I understand, when you get seriously obese not all of it is going away. It is much better to transform it and get a big - bulky body type than ending up with fat flaps you'll have to remove with surgery.
In any case, it all depends on the diet. No amount of exercise helps if you do cheesecake every day.
I'm a cyclist. I try to bike at least 100 miles a week with ride 5-6 days of the week. I typically do between 20-50 miles daily. I wanted a way to be outside without having to interact with people and cycling was the perfect way to do it.
I've been biking since 2017 and can count on my hands the number of times I've had issues with cars. Being on the bike feels like freedom and really lets you get away.
The hardest part is actually getting out becasue my mind constantally says "i don't want to do this, I don't want to do anything, I want it all to be over" that coupled with a constant feeling of despair can really be a hinderance and has cost me months off the bike but I always go back.
As soon as I'm out all the bad feelings go away and I'm at peace.
That stuff would be a great start for anybody who does not exercise. As for weights you can buy a set of dumbbells that is more than enough for a beginner for not too much money.
If you are looking to lose weight I would recommend not really worrying about that for a little while and first try to build up endurance and strength. The reason for that is because it's basically not really possible to build any muscle while losing weight, and exercising is extremely unpleasant while you are weak and not eating as much.
>>159223> Can you elaborate?
I don't know what more there is to say. It was a disaster.
What type of bicycle would you recommend? I dream of riding of into the distance.
I've been exercising about 5 days a week for a few months now. Usually an hour on the elliptical and then 30 minutes lifting. Is there a smarter way to work out? Yes. I really haven't done any research and I have no idea why.
Mine is a common 16v bicycle, not one of these with larger wheels that people use to travel larger distances. Cycling can be a very enjoyable activity, as the other wiz has said. But take your time and don't over exercise, your legs may suffer from this. I also advise you to adjust your seat so your column wont be bent while you're cycling, for although it won't matter at short distances, it will damage your posture in the long run - especially if you have to deal with holes on the asphalt or speed bumps.
I have a bicycle very close to this in the picture.
Any entry level road bike should do. Just make sure you get the proper frame size and get a proper fit, you can do this yourself with the help of the internet. if you get an incorrect frame size or have a bad fit it could really ruin your experience with pain and such.
I skate every day. My classes are really far from each other, have to walk like 20 minutes to get to class.
I can't do tricks though, i suck.
Skate as in skate board or roller skate?
Both are kind of fun but in different ways. >>159323
Raw eggs give me the runs and has the texter of snot. They are so easy to cook so I am not sure why you wouldn't cook them as they taste a hell of a lot better that way.
Even microwaved eggs are better then raw.
Ok, this was a lot harder then I though. Workout really kicked my ass.
Basically the workout is based on flexing rather then weight resistance.
I think once I get it down, I will modify some movements, add in some, and take out others to better reach my fitness goals. For now I am just doing the routine as laid out. https://youtu.be/iellDCA05SM
My job at a distribution center has me doing a lot of movement & heavy lifting, and on my days off I tend to walk around my university campus just to get some exercise.
That sounds cool man.
I exercise for health but it seems to be a losing battle these days.
He doesn't look like a wizard.
No one said he was.
It is about the information presented.
Please tell me that's a parody video.
Nutrition doesn't have to be super complicated (otherwise dumb jock types wouldn't be able to into fitness) and although the presentation is a bit humorous in delivery it appears that the information isn't actually wrong.
Yeah you can just buy shit, roughly measure out pre made meal boxes in a few minutes, then have a set of meals ready to go that don't need any real effort to prepare.
That said he makes it look easy because he already has knowledge and experience of macros and correct portions to the point where he can just eyeball it.
Don't know about you but I still need my measurement cups to avoid overeating, especially on a cut.
Youtube can help you with cheap and easy cooking. Praise the lord if you are not an Asian and have to negotiate for a piece of chicken breast.
jealous as fuck of those numbers man, 180 / 245 / 270 right now and finding it hard to stick to the routine. Haven't bothered going up in a while. awesome bench.
I only do an upper body routine twice a week because I am very lazy. I really just enjoy going for the pump.
Just throw in a few squats so you don't get chicken legs. It isn't much more effort than you are already doing. Even bodyweight or dumbbell squats help.
Anybody practicing eastern methods of self-improvement like tai chi or qigong?
Please share your experiences if you do.
I practiced qigong for a few months and had no observable effects, other than for the first time I could do one leg squat, and had a peaceful feeling for a short time after exercising. Dropped it because I've got strong focus problems and not paying attention while practicing makes it pointless and even harmful.
Also, five tibetan rites is a great way to boost your energy and improve your overall vitality.
If you know any exercise or set of these that improve overall health, please share.
>>160195>Anybody practicing eastern methods of self-improvement
Yes>like tai chi or qigong?
No, not anymore>Please share your experiences if you do.
I do martial arts (and not old people non-martial tai chi which doesn't really count) as well as occasionally meditate.
Exercise wise it is pretty straight forward and probably doesn't need much explanation on how and why it improves myself.
I have in the past experimented with qigong when I was interested in energy work for "magick" reasons but found it wasn't what I was looking for and didn't serve my "particular" uses well.
>If you know any exercise or set of these that improve overall health, please share.
I feel like trying to give instructional fitness information in text form is probably irresponsible, especially if it is martial arts related. At least with my limited skill level of explaining things.
Any bjj wizards here? I've heard about it on Joe rogans podcast from his guest. Seems like a good sport to subdue non-wizards. At the very least ofc.
Haven't seen any mention it in the martial arts thread so I doubt it.
Can you lose muscle if you're in a caloric deficit but still eating enough protein?
You can but it depends.
If your workload is the same and you have proper protein muscle loss will be minimal unless it is a drastic cut cal.
The only way to 100% avoid muscle loss during a cut is roids though. But like I said if you are doing everything right loss is pretty minor and will quickly come back at maintenance.
Oh, forgot that I also used to do yoga too.
Pretty good for you but I got bored with it so stopped doing it years ago.
do they let you wear ear protection in BJJ?
although, perhaps wizards should aspire to get cauliflower ears to repel succubi?
This is half true. Eric Helms has some good videos covering it. It depends on what level of fitness you are at. If you're losing weight at about 1.5lbs per week or less and have been lifting for less than 6 months and up to 2 years, you can actually GAIN muscle while losing weight. You also benefit minimally from bulking, eat at maintenance.
The reason why, is that your body isn't in a caloric deficit all of the time. It alternates between caloric surpluses when you recently ate, and deficits when you haven't. During the surplus you gain muscle/fat vice versa.
Basically, unless you want to compete, just lose the weight you want to at a reasonable clip or eat at maintenance. Going through bulks and cuts are more trouble than they're worth. You can end up getting fat or making yourself unnecessarily miserable for minimal gain.
When did I say anything about bulking.
Dude asked about being in a caloric deficit, presumbably as a diet to loose body fat, and that is what I was talking about.
At no point did I bring up bulking as I have never had to do it so I know less about doing it properly. It isn't relevant to the hobbies I have/had while knowing how to properly cut while maintaining performance is.