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Most therapists are delusional normans, too trapped in their own complexes to help us. I google different forms of therapy and try them on myself. Most don't work, but they're fun.

4/5 Dream journal
I've done dream journaling and dream analysis to interpret my unconscious desires and fears.
At lest one dream a week tells me something new about myself. Most dreams are fluff.

Depth Psych
2/5 Build imaginary world where you imagine different parts of your personality as people and debate them. Most of you already do this without realizing it. Sometimes I get useful insight. Most of the time, my personalities tell me to "work harder" or "go to the gym". They're assholes.

MBTI Myers Briggs 2/5
More or less astrology. Take personality test. Get 4 letters. Different tests give different results. I'm INTJ/P. I used to go hiking every 2 or 3 days, after taking the MBTI, I embraced my INT nature and stayed indoors for a week straight.

CBT 1/5
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy or McTherapy is the second most popular psych scam after big pharma drugs. Suppress your natural emotions and thoughts with positive thoughts. Leave therapy cured. Wait a month for everything surpressed to explode. Go back to therapy. *rubs hands

Mindfulness CBT 2/5
The Whole Foods version of CBT. Mindfulness makes you calmer. Most of your problems are caused by other people (and systems that have not updated to the current world) so just thinking positive won't change the outside world.

What therapies have you tried?

 No.159526

>>159525
Put this on /dep/

 No.159527

therapy is a scam through and through, I've been severely depressed for over a decade, no quack is going to just talk me out of it

 No.159528

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coherence_therapy

I've had some success with it but it's incredibly difficult to apply on yourself because of the massive skill curve. The framework is probably the best I've seen from researching different therapies and modalities. It seems to able to integrate and explain the effectiveness of most therapies and it offers a very good evidence supported theory of change. It's based on the newest research on memory reconsolidation which is the brain's only known process for updating and erasing long-standing memories.

The approach essentially incorporates this process and deliberately aims to update/remote implicit emotional learnings that produce symptoms in the present. Instead of trying to "counter-act" symptoms like most therapies i.e. CBT, it uses experiential techniques to find the coherent reasons for the existence of the symptom, trying to find the hidden purpose of the symptom that makes it such a compelling "solution". It seems that even painful states like depression or low self-esteem have a coherent purpose to them, they are essentially the lesser evil of some dilemma and by reacting in that way, you avoid another much worse dreaded suffering. This kind of learning gets created through experience and torments people by creating symptoms in the present which are consciously experienced as negative but outside of awareness they have a hidden useful purpose that the person can verbalize with some effort and exploration. Once you bring this into awareness and integrate it, you have the power to actually transform it through the process of memory reconsolidation.

If you're interested, read "Unlocking the emotional brain". It covers the neuroscience research and overall approach, but I recommend reading the case examples in order to really understand it. This type of approach has transformed the way I think about my own emotional responses.

 No.159529

>>159528
Insightful. I downloaded the book you recommended and am reading it right now.

 No.159530

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It sounds to me like you are doubting the legitimacy of Astrology, and I would have to challenge you on that. It was actually my earlier interest in the MBTI which transformed into an interest in the Enneagram of Personality, which then became an interest in Natal Astrology which led to to draw and study my chart.

alot of people these days don't like to beleive anything unless it's being spoon-fed to them by a government-approved egghead in a white-coat. Or an e-celeb. (lol.)
Beyond this I know this Astrology has a bad reputation due to it's association with succubi that use it in that vapid, superficial way that centers around sex, love and relationships and takes only the sign-position of the Sun into account.

If you are willing and cognizant to sift through the cheap fluffy material on the subject, you can learn a lot of cool, inspiring and perhaps valuable information by studying Astrology and your natal chart. In the previous couple years I have spent a considerable amount of time studying my planetary positions and aspects, and have not only seen how my chart accurately explains my personality, but witnessed the effects of planetary transits in the form of major and minor events in my life. I can vouch for it's legitimacy. While the majority of the fun of astrology does come from the navel-gazing and often false sense of inspiration or grandeur, it's not all junk and can be used quite practically from a sober viewpoint if you so wish. It's perhaps the most effective psychological science there is; as above and so below.

Maybe it's just not for everybody. For anyone who is interested I'll post some links off the top of my head to the actually good astrology sites I have come across:

Drawing a Natal Chart
https://www.astrotheme.com/horoscope_chart_sign_ascendant.php
or
https://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?btyp=w2gw&rs=3&usechpref=1

General Information & Aspect/Position Delineation
http://www.rosicrucian.com/ssa/ssaeng01.htm (a good overall introduction)
https://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html (what are the aspects again?)
https://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html (delineations)
https://www.oocities.org/rbltre/astro/mainindex.html (An old blog, excellent resource)
https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/FURCAS.html (Yes I know "JoyofSatan". Yet, a Surprisingly good resource; a lot of information here I never saw elsewhere)
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/birth-chart-horoscope-online (surpisingly good resource, for what's meant to be a dating site - possibly the best I have come across. the layout and functions are stellar and the delineations are unique.)
http://astrology.clairvision.org/astro/switchboard
(Excellent website which will give you a full astrological report of your aspects, signs and house positions. A bit tricky to useGo there, enter your info. Ignore the chart they show you, go to [View], Interpretation. Complete (and Submit) will give a PDF interpretation of the Aspects. Signs in Houses/Signs will give you Houses/Signs, select Tropical for both)
https://web.archive.org/web/20180710144634/http://www.astrologicalaspects.com/
(this site went down but there's an archive)
http://www.myastrologybook.com/site-map.htm
(One of the best sites I came across early on when I first started digging deeper. Unique delineations and a lot of good information regarding chart shape and overlooked aspects.)

Transit Readings
https://www.thefutureminders.com/Sun-transits/sun-conjunct-sun.cfm
http://www.planetaryvisions.net/transit%20readings.html (A+ transit site)
https://www.astrology-x-files.com/transits/ (the grapjhics aren't loading for me on this site but it's otherwise good for transit delineations. it even includes the signification of the house positions)


"Advanced" (esoteric astrology, degree symbols)
http://pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/
http://www.mermaid-uk.net/Esotericcontents.htm
https://www.cornerstone-astrology.com/kozminsky_symbols.php
(arguably more accurate than the more popular sabian symbols)
http://www.mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20Mandala%20-%20Contents.htm
(mindfire is a great site in general, if you scroll to the astrology section on main page. feautures the work of Dane Rudhyar)

A Couple Blogs I like (exposition of treaded ground, nothing significant you won't find elsewhere)
http://astroarena12.blogspot.com/
http://john-sandbach.blogspot.com/

 No.159549

>>159530
> http://www.rosicrucian.com/ssa/ssaeng01.htm (a good overall introduction)

Very sorry, I actually meant this one https://www.rosicrucian.com/mos/moseng01.htm#chapI


Since I am making another post I may as well include this too. http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astrology.shtml
It's an archive of Dane Rudhyar's works on Astrology. Neat little books I would classify as "Extras". Of the bunch listed there, I'd recommend starting with "The Practice of Astrology".



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