No.171018[Last 50 Posts]
https://frankiesfreerangemeat.comhttps://www.localharvest.org/Getting popular lately. This is the opposite of a poor peasant's diet. Feudal lords ate mostly meat. Mongols had two food groups, meat and dairy, and they ate both of these raw & fermented.
Today I finally told my mom I will be making all my own food from now on, as I've been lazy and weak and have eaten junk food she buys. I'm in control of my diet now though. I'll eat a tiny amount of non-animal products when I feel like it, e.g. garlic, spicy peppers, dark chocolate, maybe mushrooms.
I noticed today that my teeth are looking much better. Spending hours eating beef belly probably took off tartar. It's difficult to rip off pieces when it's raw, lots of pulling. I ate it fresh one day and ate it fermented for one day the next. There was ammonia or something on the bottom, just like in that fermented shark stuff. I don't even feel so insecure about my teeth that I need to hide hide them anymore. They're still quite yellow and some are see through a bit. Pretty much okay if someone doesn't examine them closely. When I ate lots of meat and ate S.A.D. food, when I didn't brush my teeth at night I woke up and I had lots more plaque or something on my teeth than normal. I think vitamin k2 mk. 4 and vitamin d together might cause calcium to get into my teeth and make them white again. I'll report in a month or two. If that happens I might try eating bones a bit harder than fish spines and chicken wing tips.
Looking forward to receiving lamb brains this week. I hear when they are fermented for a while they taste like stinky cheese.
No.171022
let the animal friends live
No.171025
Good luck with whatever you mean to accomplish with this, wiz. Be careful about parasites/food poisoning consuming raw meat that was not a short time previously killed fresh by you.
No.171026
the hapa diet
No.171038
>>171018What about the mucus levels that milk gives you, does that not occur when you drink raw, or is this a genetic adaptation?
No.171040
>>171038I have no experience of any abnormality with mucus. Except a genetic thing that empties my sinuses sometimes when I eat. Sometimes have to ask for extra napkins when I go to restaurants. My grandpa was the same.
No.171041
>>171040>Gustatory rhinitis is a form of nonallergic rhinitis that causes a runny nose when you eat certain foods.It hasn't happened in a long while and I have often ate spicy food.
No.171043
>>171039nice bait, try harder
No.171044
>>171040sounds like a mucus abnormality to me, especially if certain food make your nose run a lot
No.171045
>>171044It's been years, it's only ever happened at restaurants.
No.171059
>>171056>>171057post proof you ate the maggots.
No.171062
>>171060post proof you are eating raw meat and not giving it to your dog or another animal.
No.171064
>>171063
urgh, no offense but this looks even worse than what the vegan guy is doing. Do you like the taste?
No.171066
>>171064Yeah it's delicious haha. I remember the night I decided to start eating raw and rotten meat. I put some skirt steak in a jar before bed and then I layed down and wondered if it would register as food to me. The next morning I opened it up. It smelled but it was not off putting. And I ate it and the texture was delicious. The taste was not like the smell.
I ate it with my dog and then I realized he's been eating rotten meat all along. I give him turkey necks and he usually takes 2-3 days to eat them. They get dark before he finishes them. I smelled one he let age for 4 days a few days ago and it was appetizing.
No.171067
>>171066I had no compulsion not to eat it when I opened that jar.
No.171120
>>171066Rotten meat now? Damn this is getting as extreme as veganism, two sides of the same kooky coin
No.171121
>>171120This, people are fucking stupid with all these meme carnivore/vegan diets. Humans are naturally omnivores, we evolved to eat both meat & veggies n shit. In fact just learning how to cook proper meals & right exercising will do a lot more for ones health then following these fad idiot diets.
No.171123
>>171063
you are going to end up with parasites retard. raw meat is dangerous
No.171126
>>171120>>171121Humans naturally prefer meat and don't need plants. It's not a fad because there have been societies without plants. There has never been a society that has eaten only plants. Moderns don't even know what good meat is. They think animal fat is bad and then put seed oils in everything they eat to try to imitate the taste. Plants are barely nutritious. Marrow, organs, blood and brains have way more nutrients than any plants.
Truly normal people are not normal in this society. People in third world countries still eat bones. That's totally normal for humans to do, and yet you probably have no idea about that. You have no idea what is normal for humans, only what's normal for modern western human livestock who's owners constantly lie to them for profit.
No.171129
>>171126There is a difference between eating fresh raw meat and eating raw meat that was processed in a modern day slaughter house that you've let sit out to rot. You are are going to end up with botulism, tape worms, and all sorts of rare deadly diseases. There is a 100% chance of you dying if you keep doing this, whether a brain eating parasite or a neurotoxic fungus, you're going to die.
No.171130
>>171129>There is a difference between eating fresh raw meat and eating raw meat that was processed in a modern day slaughter house that you've let sit out to rotThis. At the least one of these days you are going to get horribly sick. It's not like you are a Mongolian eating a piece of horse that you killed a few minutes ago.
No.171131
>>171130>>171129The slaughterhouse meat is probably still safer than anything he’d get from hunting. The point is that he’s letting it putrefy. It’s not getting aged, or dried, or eaten raw fresh, it has maggots crawling in it. Doesn’t matter what you’re eating, if it’s rotting in a completely uncontrolled way it’ll make you sick.
No.171132
>>171120>>171121I don't know if the retard's for real but anyway he's most likely only doing it for attention, just like that fucked up outsider vegan freak that would post here. That level of attention whoring should get him banned. It will only get worse from here.
No.171133
>>171132He’s only making himself suffer, might as well watch. It’s fun, like that sex doll wiz.
No.171135
>>171133What will be the outcome of these rotten meat fanatics?
No.171141
>>171135My guess is
>continues eating rotten meat>contracts several diseases >parents find meat/notice he’s fucked up (cause there’s no way this guy lives on his own)>goes to hospital >hospital admits him to psyche ward>stop posting on wizchan No.171142
>>171141veganism has been going strong for almost 30 years, no reason for the rotivores to disappear so quickly
No.171149
>>171146fuck im hungry now
No.171152
People eat too much carbohydrates in form of white bread and sugar but I don't see a point going on such diets. Even people who only eat frozen pizza and guzzle down coke all day will probably make it to 80+ years old, so what is the point?
No.171153
make a blog creep, this is fucking gross.
No.171155
>>171152don't mock us, please. If they were to 80, they would have lived even more in those cases!
No.171156
>>171153Exactly, i don't come here to look at raw rotting meat
No.171183
>>171152Please give example of an 80 year old pizza eating and mountain dew drinking
No.171185
>>171184>This is such an interesting thread (…)no this is a shit thread for these very reasons you have provided
this is essentially a blog/attention seeking thread and as such should be deleted, or moved to the retardo realm that is /b/
No.171187
>>171183no problemo, will report 50 years later dude
No.171190
>>171187i mean a living example wise guy
No.171197
>>171183That isn't the culture of the current oldfags of the world. But there are plenty of heavy smokers and drinkers who lived well past the age of 80.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXyfCGDnuWsYou will see stories of old af pizza eaters and mountain dew drinkers over the age of 100 in about 60 years. Or not, cause you'll prob be dead, even with your healthy lifestyle.
No.171200
>>171185yes but you can still enjoy the thread… when he gets sick
No.171219
>>171197So all this diet stuff is a meme then?
Every food i eat makes me feel heavy, lethargic and sick. Yes i'll go to the doctors, but for now, i tried fasting, which gives some rush of energy, but that's more my body fighting for survival. I eat choclate and i get a rush of energy, then feel tired after. Same with pizza, fries and burgers.
If i eat a plate of vegetable or salad, my stomach starts growling one hour later, it actually makes me hungrier than before.
I don't understand why this human endeavour is so complicated, animals don't have to worry about this shit.
No.171223
>>171219yes go see a doctor and shut up. what the fuck do you expect seeking medical advice from the internet?
No.171225
>>171223u shut your face i already said i'll see a doctor when i can why be an asswipe about it??
No.171227
Meat and Health
In 2015, the World Health Organization had looked over 800 studies from 10 different countries and concluded a direct link to consuming processed meat and cancer (for those who don't believe this, WHO is a reputable organization founded in 1948 concerned with global public health overshadowed by the United Nations Economic and Social Council). The studies came to the specific conclusion "that each 50 gram portion of processed meat eaten daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 18%"¹. To clarify, this quote refers to 'colorectal cancer' (cancer of the colon/rectum) however it's not limited to simply this kind of cancer as you will see later. Also, 'processed meat' refers all the meat you find at grocery stores/delis.
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The World Health Organization later classified processed meat as a Group 1 carcinogen which is the same Group as cigarettes, asbestos, and plutonium…in other words, the probability that you will get cancer from smoking or exposure to asbestos/plutonium is at the same tier as consuming processed meat….²
It's not only cancer that's an issue here.
When you think of the causes of diabetes, what's the first thing that comes to your mind? High intake of sugar and carbs, right?
Wrong. Medical director of the Davis Clinic and renowned weight-loss surgeon Dr. Garth Davis, American author, clinical researcher, and founding president of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, Dr. Neal Barnard, and several scientific studies (including the popular Potsdam Study relating Carbohydrate intake and incidence of type 2 diabetes³) have found circumstantial evidence to support the direct correlation between the consumption of red meat and type 2 diabetes⁴, and conversely, an inverse correlation between carb consumption and type 2 diabetes (more carbs consumed, less incidence of type 2 diabetes). In short, the incidence of diabetes is to be blamed on the daily eating habits (consumption of meat) rather than the stereotypical sedentary 'couch potato' lifestyle.
On top of this, in an aggregate of nine studies reviewed and published by Harvard researchers in 2013, it was found that eating just one serving of processed meat could increase your risk for diabetes by 51%.⁵ Here is a direct quote from the study:
"In a pooled analysis, each 50 g daily serving of processed meats was associated with 51 % higher risk (RR = 1.51, 95 % CI = 1.25–1.83). Matching the serving sizes for comparability, each daily 100 g serving of processed meats was associated with a more than 2-fold higher risk of diabetes (RR = 2.28, 95 % CI = 1.56–3.35)"
At this point, you may see the detrimental effects of red meat, but what about white meat? Isn't white meat healthier?
Not at all.
You may assume that "all-natural" and "organic" chicken may have significantly less negative effects than normal chicken, however, all white-meat/poultry has the same effects. All chicken is injected with salt-water (which is up to 800mg of excess sodium). There is something even worse than this 'over-dosage' of sodium in chickens though: heterocyclic amines (carcinogens). These carcinogens can form in any kind of meat while it's being heated/cooled but the biggest source of heterocyclic amines is chicken (so not only is chicken the main source of sodium and heterocyclic amines, but it's also one of the sources with the greatest amount of cholesterol). To support this, a Harvard University showed that men with prostate cancer who ate large amounts of chicken increased the risk of the disease further progressing by four times. Here is a direct quote from the study:
No.171230
>>171227"Men with high prognostic risk and a high poultry intake had a 4-fold increased risk of recurrence or progression"
What I'm trying to say is, the cope about "oh my parents had heart disease so I'm going to inherit it" is bullshit. Heart disease and all of the "hereditary" diseases/conditions that are claimed to be inevitably passed down and expressed just because your parents/grandparents had it is a debunked fallacy. Even if you have a genetic predisposition(s) it doesn't mean that it's going to inevitably manifest the disease(s). What determines whether it manifests or not can be attributed to those controllable, epigenetic variables (dietary, environmental, and overall lifestyle factors). The activation of tumor-activation genes/tumor-suppression genes can be controlled simply by what we put into our body/what we consume. So it isn't over for your health if you were dealt with a bad genetic deck; you can control it through the reshuffling of your diet.
How about fish?
All fishes are loaded with these four killers: PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls)⁸, mercury⁹, saturated fat, and cholesterol (also in excessively/sporadically high amounts). Think about the bioaccumulation of pesticides/herbicides after one fish eats another continuously poisoning the flesh of the fish. Even the wide-held belief that salmon is 'healthy' is a misguided statement and is totally wrong. Salmon is one of the big-fish predators compared to smaller fish, so it has an extremely high bioaccumulation of all of the chemicals stated above making resulting in it having excessively high estrogenic and cancer-promoting properties. Farmed fish are also equally dangerous/toxic with the levels of antibiotics/antifungals they're given/exposed to and the congested areas they're in being highly susceptible to bacterial/fungal infections.
Dioxins are one of the most toxic man-made chemicals known to science, and almost everyone is exposed to it on a daily basis. They cause various different types of endocrine disruption problems, endometriosis, and even various types of cancers and 93% of dioxin exposure is from the meat you eat.¹⁰ More specifically, the grass-fed cows that are near incinerators/meat-production facilities are constantly eating/exposed to dioxin and these are the same cows that have dioxin accumulated in its fat are milked/killed and go into your stomach along with various toxic chemicals including dioxin.
Lastly, I'm sure you guys are all aware of slaughter houses showing that you're plain ignorant of the fact that innocent animals are cruelly butchered for your gluttonous satisfactions.
Here's a small 'taste' of what is going on behind the meat you crave:
Dairy and Health
Eggs are also considered a healthy part of the standard diet. However, this well-known belief is directly contradicted with scientific evidence that shows that eating just one egg per day is as bad as smoking five cigarettes per day for life.⁷ For a little bit more detail about the egg itself, the egg's yolk is the most concentrated blob of saturated fat and cholesterol (pure fat and cholesterol). When this amount of cholesterol and saturated fat enters the bloodstream (after consumption), it coats our red blood cells, or blood becomes more viscous (gluey), alters our hormone levels, and obviously increases our cholesterol levels.
For centuries people have been consuming milk apart from infancy, but if you give a second to think about it…why the fuck would your body produce enzymes in order to adapt to baby calf growth fluid? There's absolutely no human being on earth that needs the milk of a cow any more than they need the milk of a hippo, or any other animal for that fact. Most people in the world are lactose intolerant, and it makes sense: there's no reason at all for the body to produce an enzyme in order to digest lactose after weaning/infancy.¹¹ In a sense, milk is the powerhouse of sex hormones such as estrogen and progesterone regardless of whether it's conventional/organic milk. In fact, organic milk has as much galactose, saturated fat, and cholesterol as conventional milk, so there's practically no difference!
Wait! But there's a catch…
There's actually a limit to the amount of pus that can be in milk in order for it to be legally sold (750,000 pus cells/CC of milk).¹²
B-b-b-b-bones but what about milk strengthening bones?
Another fallacy that has been falsely ingrained in the heads of everyone. In a study by Harvard researchers over an "18-year prospective analysis [with] 73,337 postmenopausal succubi", it was found that "neither milk nor a high-calcium diet appears to reduce risk" of fractures/bone diseases (such as osteoporosis).¹³ So milk does not at all help with protecting the bones proving the wide-held belief outright wrong.
No.171241
There's a raw meat dish in Turkish cuisine called "cig kofte" (raw meatballs) It's pretty good.
No.171242
>>171240you're a king mate, it's so impressive you can do this shit. It's legit inspiring. I bet it's possible to overcome trauma by eating maggots, if you're revolted by them. Stay strong broski. I've dabbled in organ meat, but brains are rough to start eating because of the presentation. Looking on your update on them when they arrive. Raw liver and lungs are pretty decent. I also think raw meat can taste genuinely delicious, have been occasionally eating raw pork and expired frozen meats since early childhood and never had any lasting stomach issues.
No.171271
And there were some small crunchy bits.
No.171272
>>171240Can you stop posting raw maggots and all this shit? It is extremely disturbing and sickening
No.171273
>>171271You are just trolling to get attention, we get it now go back to /b/
No.171274
>>171270Well done, you are the biggest degenerate this board has faced in a while.
Looking forward to your rottenbrainsposting until you are finally cast out of here for good
No.171276
>>171272>>171273>>171274it's too late. he hasn't explicitly broken any rule so he can keep blogposting for attention ad nauseam (the term is especially fitting here…)
meanwhile the site is dying, good riddance honestly.
No.171279
>>171272>>171273>>171274>>171276if you don't like it you can hide the thread, I personally, am interested in OPs raw meat eating adventures, it's unique and interesting
No.171281
OP tone it down for real
No.171282
>>171276Where else is there to go though? The only other places are even more open to degeneracy than here, which is saying a lot
No.171284
>>171282Nowhere. Get off the internet. The less I use it the better I feel.
No.171289
Good for you, OP.
Normalfag cattle being triggered by this thread are pretty pathetic.
OP isn't going to die of brain rot or other bullshit diseases so long as he's getting his meat from good places. There's a whole subgroup of people into a raw carnivore diet. Look up Aajonus Vonderplanitz and his work.
No.171292
>>171289Nigger it’s not just raw, it’s rotting. There’s maggots in it. And not even cultivated maggots, it’s random maggots that could carry anything. If he was eating fresh raw fish or something that would be a completely different case.
No.171296
>>171284But what else should i do? I do not like going places where other people could be, i don't like working a job, i dislike physical exertion, music listening and learning new things
No.171297
>>171289>OP isn't going to die of brain rot You're right, he'd probably eat his own brains then post aa picture of it here. Not before it had started developing maggots, of course.
No.171299
hey OP;do you do OMAD or eat regularly?
Im considering doing an omad raw meat diet,I never heard such combination done before but i want to do it
No.171302
>>171299I eat when it feels right which is usually either IMF or OMAD. I sometimes don't take breaks when I finish eating something and move on to the next, I don't take large breaks for several hours ever. I start eating whenever I get around to it and usually I'm perfectly satiated for the rest of the day after 4-8 hours. It takes quite a while to eat raw meat because it's tougher and you have to chew more and tear it apart like an animal ripping with your neck. I took 90 minutes to eat the lamb shank I posted a few days ago. It was completely raw under the surface. Blue rare.
No.171303
>>171302In the shank post I said I was trying to clean the bone for hours but then I looked at the clock and then happened to see the time of something I did before eating the shank (editing a file or something) and it was only 90 min.
No.171306
>>171304Stop with the maggot meme, unnecessary!
No.171307
>>171304One of these days, you shall be in some Kafka situation, and you'll wake up to discover that you are now just a filthy rot-eating maggot yourself.
Others will find you seizing to death from the brain eating parasite you got from eating rotten offal.
No.171321
>>171230This is a lot of things to digest, pun intended.
>Eggs are also considered a healthy part of the standard diet. However, this well-known belief is directly contradicted with scientific evidence that shows that eating just one egg per day is as bad as smoking five cigarettes per day for life.Go more in depth on this, my first reaction is to reject at face value.
No.171339
>>171321You must be a reddit user to pick out the smallest flaw in a walltext of well-researched advice.
I will answer nothing
No.171341
>>171339You must be a facebook user to shit out a bunch of scientific studies on mundane crap and treat them as gospel.
No.171345
>>171341And what have you provided?
Typical reddit user to shit on things without contributing
No.171357
>>171349Haha stalker, see you get called out for being a nitwit and now you must go into my 'post history' to dig up dirt. You really are the ultimate reddit user.
No.171358
>>171348Yeah cry more and go back to reddit
No.171361
>>171348one is a crab site and the other is reddit, honestly they suck
equally.
No.171363
>>171183https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10697130/Tony-Benn-dies-the-pizza-loving-Labour-stalwart.htmlNot mountain dew but he ate two cheap frozen pizzas a day and lived to 89. I don't care about the argument just pizza loving commie grandpa Tony benn.
No.171403
>>171363Anymore comfy articles written about this guy?
I feel like i need to know the back story
No.171404
>>171363For the past 4,500 weekday mornings (or 17 years), for example, Lee and Mary Humphrey, both 84, of Eastbourne, Sussex, have walked into their local McDonald's and proceeded to eat a double hamburger each plus a shared large fries. No harm done. Likewise, young Craig Flatman from Suffolk, you may recall, grew into a strapping 6ft 1in, 11-stone teenager on a diet consisting exclusively of five rounds of jam sarnies a day since the age of four.
Similarly, perhaps, former US secretary of state Madeleine Albright's usual supper, when she's at home, is reportedly "cottage cheese with ketchup". Crime queen Ruth Rendell has confessed that she will probably eat "bread and gruyere cheese, a salad and fruit" for lunch "every day for the rest of my life". Geneticist Steve Jones has munched on "a boring vegetarian salad" in his university canteen every day for 30 years. And no less a deity than actor Rupert Everett has not cooked since 1981, far preferring to "go to the same restaurant every day and have exactly the same food".
So might repetitive eating actually be good for you? It was Wittgenstein, after all, who once remarked: "I don't mind what I eat, as long as it's always the same thing." Though he was also partial to playing chess without a board or an opponent, "staring moodily at objects, moving them in relation to one another, laughing to himself and shouting 'Check!'" So on balance, maybe not.
No.171405
>>171364So he smokes while eating two frozen pizzas a day? What is this sorcery??
No.171410
>>171405Damn, i feel like pizza right now, should i?
No.171520
Some updates:
One day my room didn't smell and there weren't any flies and I found the steak in there was completely subsumed by maggots and has maggoty froth all over. It's interesting to watch the whole steak crawling. I ate a handful of maggots instead of one at a time and in addition to nice texture they have a tasty flavor. Very nice food. I'm going to look into cultivating meal worms, crickets, snails, etc. today.
I have a couple brains tied up and hanging inside of a jar. It's been in my fridge so they're not yet ready.
I haven't been completely steadfast and have indulged bad food a few days, but I have something delicious to return to unlike in the past, so I am capable of not letting a bad day turn into a bad week.
I didn't like liver and forced myself to eat it at first cause I thought I needed the nutrients. I just went a week without eating it and tried it again and it was palatable. My appetite tells what nutrients I need. They are pastured chicken livers. They also needed to be room temperature to taste good.
Today I ate a lamb shank that's been in the fridge for about 10 days (aired out a couple times & left air in the bag so that it wouldn't grow botulism). I cooked it blue rare and it was tastier than the fresh one I ate some time ago. The fat started to taste cheesy. I have heard of people in the recent past hanging game meat like pheasants for a month and then eating them and they taste like blue cheese. I need to age meat more, it's delicious. About to have crab and salmon.
No.171521
OP you could probably make a lot of money through ads if you uploaded videos of you eating this stuff on youtube
No.171522
>>171520This is getting ridiculous now, have you lost all sense of reason?
You would think with all the brains you were eating you would learn some sense, but i guess you are what you eat, rotten brains
No.172293
>>172292make a youtube channel of you eating all this raw rotting meat
No.172295
>>171227>>171230WHO is hopelessly corrupted and unprofessional, the Covid-19 case clearly demonstrated that. Of course they suddenly oppose meat consumption that just happens to also be the recent target for NWO/globohomo.
No.172296
>>172293Shut your face infidel!
Why does it seem most posts here are made to unnerve and upset me??
No.172298
>>172295Trusting the United Nations is like cattle trusting a rancher's association. Every government in the world is a mafia police state and the UN serves them.
No.172323
>>172295why would they oppose meat consumption
No.172324
>>171022And destory the cycle of nature? Even plants eat meat. No, I'm not crazy. Some plants trap large and small animals with different techniques– like spikes or poisons (they're not only defense mechanisms)–and absorb the nutrients through soil after the animal decomposes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuzLXxbGc4c>>171025A post made by an NPC who doesn't know anything about microbiology. Delete this post, please. Just listen and stop sharing misleading information.
>>171018Make sure your meat comes from a reputable source. Don't buy processed/packaged meat from Walmart.
No.172369
>>171018>This is the opposite of a poor peasant's dieton the contrary
Whenever I am on keto, I notice that my money consumption for food goes down enough to not notice any price increase for meat and other stuff. Because when you only eat paleo / keto, you are cutting out all the empty calories from your diet:
>fast food>industrially produced trash food>convenience meals>patato chips>sweets>ice cream>SODAcalcualte this yourself. How much money you wasted on these empty calories that only make you fat and sick and add no nutritional value to your diet. If you used the money and bought only meat or cheese with it, you would be better off even at only 1 meal per day. Because what I noticed is that when I have one meat heavy meal per day I usually feel sated until the next day at least. When I eat stuff like breads or sweets, I notice that after a few hours I feel cravings again for more.
And if this is still too expensive for you. Eggs are a cheap alternative to meat and they can be combinated very well with pretty much anything. Omlet, scrambled eggs, boiled eggs in salads, pancakes with nuts and many many more. The other one being liver. Liver can be bought cheaply and you can make very tasty meals with it. And hamburger meat is not that expensive either
Also never forget that there are veggies too. You can make your own california salad (green salad with carrot stripes) for like 5 bucks and you will have enough salad to eat for up to 3 days.
For fruits I like berries most. They are healthy and low in sugar. kiwi is another good fruit
No.172372
>>1723231. To make people weak and dumb
2. To feed proles cheaper
No.172385
Updates:
Ordered goat and lamb testicles.
I've been drinking kefir and yogurt for a few weeks. I prefer kefir and do not keep yogurt anymore. They both have a very good texture, with a delicate crispy froth. The kefir is fizzy, releases a lot of co2 when I open the jar. It's a little bit alcoholic, 1-2% and I can tell by the little burn. The flavor is only a little bit different. Gonna try sheep milk next week. One day I added blood to the kefir and it was delicious, it tasted meaty. I made another cup with too much blood and it tasted irony so I gave it to my dog and he liked it.
Whenever I eat too much junk food now I get the runs. I never used to and I ate way more junk food back then. The amount that will get me sick the next day didn't seem like so much in the past. It's either because my body is not adapted to it anymore, or because I have so many more nutrients besides sugar for the pathogenic bacteria to eat like iron and such. This has trained my brain to not even want to binge eat junk food. I've lost 8 pounds the last couple months, not keeping my diet so pure, because I've been too weak to never eat the garbage my mom buys.
When I was out of dairy and had no thawed fatty meat I ate some oats I fermented for over a week to get rid of anti-nutrients. This will be my carb of choice. This is what I would eat for calories if I wanted to spend less money. They did not taste sour after I strained them, just perfectly bland. I added miso and spices to it for flavor. I've got honey to make it sweet when I want. I've heard of celts discarding the oats and eating solids that form in the water afterwards, I'll try that when the oats I'm fermenting now mature.
I'm pretty sure my teeth have become less see through from vitamin D (sun) and K2 (fermented meat and dairy). Most of my teeth are see through at the ends, especially my lower front teeth. I took a picture and was surprised when I saw them. I'm 90% sure less of them is see through. Now that I have a picture I'll know for sure in a couple months.
No.172386
>>172385I envy your life. You are like the wizard king. Eating whatever you want however you want and whenever you want. You are a God among men. Wish I had your money.
No.172389
>>172385where did you order that from?
No.172397
>>172386How is he so rich? And don't tell me any crypto bullshit or i will rage
No.172399
>>172386I have a saying I say to myself, 'only the best for me'. I use it for buying things, and I use it for making other decisions. This isn't a crazy amount though, like $230 for almost half a month of food and I still have several pounds in my freezer. My budget for food a month is $600. I shouldn't have been too intimidated to buy this kind of stuff when I was on neetbux, I could have at least bought some.
>>172389https://frankiesfreerangemeat.com/Good prices for what it is. Minimum order is $100. Use '200' or '300' promo codes if you order more than that. It comes in a styrofoam cooler with dry ice.
https://www.localharvest.org/ is where I will find sheep milk, there are several farms nearby that sell raw milk. I already have one I get cow milk delivered to a drop-off point in town weekly.
>>172397I trade options. I am the wiz who risked most of my small fortune and lost all of it a few months ago, $18,400 lost. I had less than $3000 safe to sustain myself for a few months and since then I've made enough to save a little more than that.
I'm sick of relying on gambling so I am pursuing some software business ideas. I'm learning a lot right now. It's very time consuming effort. It's not as easy and quick as in my fantasies.
No.172462
>>171018>shilling for frank tufanoanimal based diets are very healthy though, i've been doing it for 2 years now
No.172501
>>172497>I don't know if it's semen or whatI dying at the thought of a wizard guzzling raw sheep cum calling it tasty and believing it to be a revolutionary diet.
No.172503
>>172498you're supposed to be a wizard, not an attention seeking joker
No.172504
>>172497>>172498Doxed from reflection on sheep balls. And testicle bite marks.
No.172505
>>172498You should make a YouTube channel for that shit. I remember watching a show called xfactor or something. People there ate gross shit like this for money. I'm sure you'd get a shitload of views for eating this online.
>>172300>Cute 🥰 No.172507
>>172497>>172498So not only are you a brain rotter, but you also eat raw balls?
You just went past full retard
No.172511
>>172507cry more little man
No.172517
I am now since monday on the paleo diet trying to experience what everyone was talking about
it is a weird feeling
I have a headache more or less entire day in the left temple like a background noise on an old tape. It is just there.
And I feel massive cravings for everything sweet but at the same time no real hunger. hunger in the sense of that my stomach aches or groans and that it physically hurts me being like that. I eat substancially less compared to when I eat my usual trash diet just by omitting all the unhealthy crap. It is very surprising how much less calories I need to survive the day. No wonder I became a fatso in the past few years.
In my nightly computer sessions the cravings get to the highest point but I usually kill them down with cola zero bacon and cheese. it worked every time. Whenever I had those cravings I would just get bacon and cheese instead and they vanish until I go to bed. It is a very interesting phenomenon and I will keep exploring it. And this week alone I ate more veggies then the entire august combined I think.
I wonder how long it will take to get rid of my excess 40 lbs of weight.
The scale already shows 5 lbs less compared to sunday
No.172519
>>172517i googled it and 5 lbs of fat is almost 18,000 calories, so that much weight seems impossible for you to lose within a week, even during a fast, assuming it is all fat. not meaning to knock your progress down, didnt know myself the calories in fat. im kind of worried how long it will take me now
No.172521
>>172519Keto causes a reduction in water being held in the body because a reduction of carbs creates a reduction of glycogen stores, which are a contributor to water retention. At the start you can lose a hefty few pounds from the water reduction.
No.172522
>>172519Yeah the 5 lbs is mostly water
It's normal for weight to fluctuate about 4 lbs
It does take a long time to lose weight so you better take control of yourself now instead of sometime in the future. Losing just 2 pounds a week is a good amount. I'm 10 pounds down starting several months ago, 225 from 235. Not a big difference yet. I think I'll try exercising more instead of eating less.
No.172878
I have also become interested in the carnivore diet and have been eating mostly carnivorous for the past 2 months or so. I am not willing to consume any of my products raw though, I just don't trust the stuff sold in stores. I did eat a raw egg once but I the texture was too thick for my taste so it was kind of uncomfortable eating it.
One major benefit I have already noticed is in terms of my digestion. When normies, especially vegans, talk about 'good digestion' they are talking about shitting your brains out because they think that is somehow a sign of good health, I am talking of the exact opposite. I have come to realize that grains are incredibly toxic to the human body and that we should not be consuming any of it, let alone consume the huge amounts that are recommended as part of the modern diet. As a kid, I would eat a lot of bread because that's part of the local diet but I would have diarrhea and horrible belly-cramps nearly every day. I had already cut out grains for the most part for the past year but now I have cut it out completely and I have none of those issues anymore.
Aside from that, it also makes you incredibly bloated. It's insane how some people will blame the obesity epidemic of today on meat when everyone's diets consists mostly of grains and other plant foods.
No.172881
>>172878How are your shits without the fiber of veg and grains?
No.173233
>>172497>>172498Where did you go wizwengigo? I'm waiting. Did you died of the brain rot?
No.173453
>>173452Then again homosexual men are still very effeminate even after taking ample doses of semen through their oral and anal cavities.
>>172497You should test your test levels before and after consuming certain types of testicles over a period of time. Perhaps sheep testicle does not have much of an effect while some other type of testicle might.
No.173454
>>172878>I have come to realize that grains are incredibly toxic to the human body and that we should not be consuming any of itSometimes I don't want to associate with this board anymore.
No.173456
>>173454
>Sometimes I don't want to associate with this board anymore.and why is that exactly? does this realization not mesh with your cult of veganism? show me a fucking long term vegan who is healthy. there are none. there are no populations of humans who have lived on a vegan diet. yet there are populations of carnivores who enjoy excellent health (untill they adopt the western diet, i.e. Inuit).
Research shows that a shift towards an agricultural societly is always linked with worsesning health. humans have been primarily carnivore for all of their existance and thats a simple fact. the best kind of elimination diet is carnivore and it has proven time and time again to be very effective which cannot be said for veganism. case in point:
Tim Shieff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azVortse4VQhave fun looking at older videos of this faggot being all smug telling everyone how healthy he was being a vegan. yet even this dumbass realised vagnism ruins your health.
fair enough, dont associate with this board. enjoy your vegan echo chamber on the internet, where your religious views will never be challenged by facts.
No.173457
>>172881not him, but: on carnivore its very regular once perday. you dont need fiber at all. as a matter of fact, fiber makes it worse. have a look at this video:
https://youtu.be/xqUO4P9ADI0have a look at it all. turns out fiber is not really needed and might be detrimental. current nutritional advice turned out to be bogus with nothing backing it up. absolutely nothing.
No.173458
>>173456the longest living populations on earth are all on a predominantly plant based diet. the traditional okinawan diet was 98%+ vegan. the adventist vegeterians are the longest living population on earth. the okinawan's used to be the longest living population, but after a lot of KFC's and fast food joints were installed there, they dropped off
all on a 98%+ vegan diet. the 2% is rather negligible, if were being honest
if you want to go around killing animals for your taste pleasure and being immoral, thats fine, just dont go around spreading unscientific garbage
>Research shows that a shift towards an agricultural societly is always linked with worsesning healthi think we both can agree that processed carbs, like coca-cola, white bread, flour, processed oils, oreos and candybars are bad for you. but that doesnt entail that all plant foods are bad for you
>humans have been primarily carnivore for all of their existance and thats a simple factthats not true, humans are omnivores, and with the invention of cooking, humans could eat previously inedible plants, like potatoes or beans or grains. humans can and have ate meat raw in the past
>Tim Shiefffirst of all, i dont think he's carnivore anymore, and more importantly, thats a SINGLE FUCKING ANECDOTE. please dont use single anecdotes to make a arguement, thank you
No.173460
>>173458this meme again: the okinawan diet is mostly based on pork consumption. youd be retarded to suggest their diet is 98% vegetarian. when their original diet was described was right after WW2 when the pig population was decimated. okinawans, taiwanese and everyone surrounding this region eat shittons of pork and vegetables. just stop it already.
here:
Shibata's paper "Nutrition for the Japanese elderly."
"The food intake pattern in Okinawa has been different from that in other regions of Japan. The people there have never been influenced by Buddhism. Hence, there has been no taboo regarding eating habits. Eating meat was not stygmatised, and consumption of pork and goat was historically high. It was exceptional among Japanese food consumption.
The intake of meat was higher in Okinawa… On the other hand, the intake of fish was lower… Intake of NaCl was lower… Deep colored vegetables were taken more in Okinawa… These characteristics of dietary status are thought to be among the crucial factors which convey longevity and good health to the elderly in Okinawa Prefecture."
"Unexpectedly, we did not find any vegetarians among the centenarians."
stop, preach your religion to other vegetards.
omnivores? humans were predominantely carnivores.
have a look at this, specifically the linked section:
Stable N isotope concentration analysis clearly shows a different picture. Not only did humans eat herbivores, they also ate other carnivores, leading to a higher concentration of N isotope in collagen. the video overall explains as to how and why the human digestive tract shrank in favour of a bigger brain size and how meat consumption actually caused it. humans did not evolve to eat meat. they evolved because they ate meat. as a matter of fact, the brain size relative to body ratio would not be possible without a predominantly carnivore diet. the simple fact that you can type out this vegan drivel is and why we have all of this tech is because of meat consumption.
Now show me a population in NATURE that lives on a vegan diet only. it doesnt exist. andtheres a reason for it.
tim shieff is one of the many. theres tons of material out there. the only reason i even listed this faggot is because he was a poster boy for a healthy vegan with a strong body. just as every vegan this dipshit was completely dillusional, hiding his failing health and refusing to accept that his diet caused his suffering.
show me a healthy, strong, longterm vegan. they simply dont exist.
No.173461
>>173460forgot to post the video at around 20 min mark:
https://youtu.be/bY2v6AnEyuU No.173463
>>173460hey, lets keep it rolling:
daily recommended meat intake in the UK:
"Meat is a good source of protein, vitamins and minerals in your diet. However, if you currently eat more than 90g (cooked weight) of red and processed meat a day, the Department of Health advises that you cut down to 70g, which is the average daily consumption in the UK."
As opposed to Okinawans:
from
http://stanford.wellsphere.com/healthy-eating-article/hara-hachi-bu-lessons-from-okinawa/845480"The diet of Okinawa also includes considerably more animal products and meat – usually in the form of pork – than that of the mainland Japanese or even the Chinese. Goat and chicken play a lesser, but still important, role in Okinawan cuisine. Okinawans average about 100 grams or one modest portion of meat per person per day"
"Fish plays an important role in the cooking of Okinawa as well. Seafoods eaten are various and numerous – with Okinawans averaging about 200 grams of fish per day"
300 grams of meat equivalent per day, UK gov recommendation is 1/4 of that. Yeah, nah, if anything the Okinawans have always eaten disproportionately more meat.
No.173465
>>173458im pretty sure most of the world is on plant based diets
No.173466
>>173465yeah, and im pretty sure most of the world has horrible health, 1st world countries being leaders in this regard. what does that tell you?
No.173468
>>173465nah, total meat consumption is largely increasing
>>173466a vegan diet is just a catch all term for no animal products, but that doesnt entail a healthy diet
you literally can eat nothing but oreos, instant noodles, dark chocolate, chocolate wafers, white rice and coca-cola, and be "plant based"
theres a difference in "whole food plant based" and a "plant based" diet. please try to discern the difference
No.173469
>>173468>theres a difference in "whole food plant based" and a "plant based" diet. please try to discern the differencetheres no reason to even bother. even if you leave out all the preprocessed food the if you go vegan you only have food left heavy in starch because otherwise you will not meet daily caloric requirements. starch itself also is a problem, as it triggers insulin secretion and will slowly induce insulin resistance. it takes decades to get to this point, but it will make you sick.
naturally, you wouldn't eat food heavy in carbs throughout the year, as they would not be available. especially in regions where winters are long there were no vegans or vegetarians. they would not survive.
the natural cycle is consumptions of start and carb heavy foods around end of summer where you conicidentally would also accumulate fat for the winter. thats mostly meat with some carbs during a short period of time in the year.
now with introduction of grains you always get health issues. it is evident in many populations throughout the world. whereever grain cultivation is introduced you see disease rising. rotten teeth, obesity, diabetes, artherosclerosis, reduces longevity, reduced height etc etc.
No.173470
>>173469>conicidentallyand by that I mean theres a direct link between carbs, insulin and accumulation of fat. it makes sense if you live a natural life, as the effects of carbs would be reversed throughout the rest of the year. now you switch to eating carbs every day and you get issues. its simply unnatural.
No.173493
You've been quite the last few weeks, guess you realised you couldn't live off sheep semen and raw goats brains your whole life right?
No.173495
Thanks for the laugh OP
No.173500
>>172881Mine are much smaller than before, happens every day I think.
>>173233>>173493I'm still at it partly, though out of the laziness that has crippled me my whole life I have regressed back to eating junk food most days. I had to think about my diet all day to keep off the path of least resistance. I'll get back to it fully. I walked 5 miles for the first time in a while yesterday. Really have to pull myself away from games.
Nowadays I at least have kefir and/or cheese every day. I don't eat much rotting meat because kefir and cheese have the same nutrients and the kefir is easier to set up. I do let all my meat get old in the fridge and the fat gets mildly cheesy, aired out every few days to keep it aerobic - botulism can't thrive at refrigerator tempertures though so I don't care if I forget about it for a few days more. I can tell it would taste better older. I eat both brain and liver about once a week.
= KEFIR =In the past I had my jar of kefir that I drank some from every day and added back milk to keep it constant - this was a mistake because the kefir wasn't fully mature. It takes more than one day for that milk to fully ferment. Now I have two jars of kefir: one that is fully mature that I drink; another that I add milk to make more kefir for 5 days or so. I taste the second jar and when it's fully mature I switch the jars' roles. Now I always have perfectly fermented kefir.
= NEW FOODS =The last two new foods I've eaten are quail and iberico pork.
The quails are cute and little. I cooked it because it was better that way, though I'm not afraid to eat any good meat raw. My dog didn't even want it raw but loved it cooked. I ate the neck raw though, just chomped up the vertebrae no problem, not very much inside it though because the quails are small. There were kidneys inside the quails, I sauteed them for a second and they were delicious. It's very easy to cook, didn't have to use a knife I just ripped the limbs off and ripped the breast meat off and ripped any other morsels off. It's quite lean and not very substantial. I made a rudimentary soup with the bones and it tasted pretty good after I added vinegar, colatura di alici (fermented anchovy sauce, aka garum) and cayenne pepper.
Iberico pork is "the wagyu of pork". It's a special breed that hikes up hills into forests to eat acorns. I have the belly cut, which is the cut used to make bacon. Maybe I'll look up how to cure it and make bacon. It's very fatty, the pieces I've cut off have been 90% fat so far. A couple bites tasted like acorn but mostly it just tastes like delicious fat. This is perhaps the best tasting meat I've ever had. I definitely prefer it raw. I cut it with my meat slicer as thick as it goes. I wrapped some in parchment paper and tied it up and took it to eat with my dog on a long walk yesterday (I also had parmesan cheese and a cheesy lamb brain).
No.175154
I pretty much just don't care about dieting anymore, I eat raw and rotten meat whenever I feel like it. I cook meat usually to make it go with a dish but it never really improves it. I've mostly been eating ground beef I leave out for a couple days or so. Had ground veal a week ago - it tastes very different and I prefer beef but I'll have veal sometimes. I deboned a chicken to marinate it last night. I ate some raw including all the parts that would be hard to scrape off the bone. It is my new favorite meat to eat raw. Drinking its juices tastes just like chicken noodle soup. Its meat tastes like that and more. It tastes utterly wholesome and salubrious. I ate several organs. I used my teeth to crush some bones in the deboning process, very convenient to be able to do that. It's good quality chicken from a company called Cooks Venture. I want to buy a chicken now and butcher it myself so they don't take any parts out.
Basically I think a person who is afraid to eat raw meat is insane because if you get historical perspective you find most cultures have people eating raw and fermented meat, not even long ago it was pretty common in the west. I'm just as well at eating raw meat as a normal animal is. Your owners want you sick, weak and mentally ill and denying you meat (raw and in general) is the absolute best way to do that.
No.175155
>>171227So in other words eat more processed meat
No.175156
you guys are just as retarded as vegans, in fact you're even more retarder since you guys sometimes eat it raw. Human bodies have "evolved" to take in both plants and animals, you cant just eat only one and feel good
No.175157
>>175156>you cant just eat only one and feel goodbut people do, hence why vegans and meat-only guys aren't wallowing in despair 24/7
No.175169
>>175154Based parasitewiz.
No.175170
>>175154I eat food from the rubbish and even food I find on the street when I am outside but when it comes to raw mean I only eat raw beef and and raw sheep/lamb.
I do not think it is a good idea to be eating raw chicken though and I am not going to try it because it does taste nicer cooked I have tasted raw chicken before.
Do you have something wrong with your sense of taste?
No.175174
>>175156>Human bodies have "evolved" to take in both plants and animalsthen why do vegetables taste bad? we dont have to try to coax dogs into eating vegetables, they know what they need to eat. every other animal on the planet knows what to eat, yet children are repulsed by eating vegetables.
No.175176
>>175174Because
1. vegetables taste bad as a defense mechanism against predation, see: peppers
2. Vegetables tend to be few in calories, which humans need a lot of. Hence why sugar and fat taste good, they are calorie rich. However in the modern day humans can get far more calories than they need, hence why things we like aren't "good" for us.
No.175179
Is OP still alive? Your meal updates are very wizardly.
No.175621
this thread was started off in such a retarded way there is no way i am reading any of it.
meat is simply put the superior source of nutrition. no scurrying up and down some food pyramid, or strenuously counting micros for your 'RDI'.
also although we've started to grow more accustomed to an omnivorous way of eating, eating plants still comes at a taxing price to your physiology, waste management and such.
and the biggest point in eating your shit raw is the rate of digestibility.
i won't even put up with pointing anything out in OP's post.
No.175622
>>175621doesn't cooked food digest faster?
No.175629
>>175622applicable to plants in definite, up to debate with meat
but it would really be the only logical sense in eating meat raw
No.175649
Return to us based parasitewiz
No.175652
>>172300This is artificial man made environment. You see this only because of that. Nature has no mercy and it is brutal by default. You kill to live until you get killed and eaten by something else.
No.175653
>>172324Do not tell me that parasites are not real, though. Is that what you are trying to tell?
No.176163
>>175179>>175649I've been openly eating rotten meat the last few weeks. I'm leaving my meat out in the kitchen microwave now. The houses heating at night makes it ferment way faster than in my room. Steak tastes putrid after only 4 or 5 days. I prefer it while its fragrant and not putrid. I might experiment with salt and independently reinvent meat curing.
Been dabbling with tartare. I leave the ground meat out 1-3 days first then I mix in the spices and such and wait another day so that its not so moist. Garlic, capers, thyme, oregano, pepper, paprika, salt. Its pretty good however it loses the funkiness and fragrance, so it does not replace plain raw rotten meat. Its a downgrade actually but interesting. Maybe I should let it get older after salting and spicing it. I'll post pic of what it looks like tomorrow.
There are a couple of similar Ethiopian dishes I want to try (one with ground meat and one with cubed)
Btw beef's fat should be yellowish/beige instead of white or pink from beta carotene in the grass. There is fake grassfed beef in stores. My store is good though.
I'm still a degenerate eating tons of sugar and junk food but I'm thinking all the good bacteria I'm constantly consuming perfectly mitigates it. I'm always swirling kefir around in my mouth after eating sugary or carby food. I know it also takes food off my teeth and gums because it tastes nice and sweet whereas swirling water in mouth after eating those things has no taste. It tastes like sweetened yogurt.
I'm thinking preservatives are a tool to keep slaves from discovering this. Probably if ice cream had no preservatives and wasn't pasteurized it would transform into something healthy when you left it out.
I'm looking into water kefir because the bacteria feeds on sugar so I think it's adapted to this purpose better.
>>175622Maybe fresh meat digests harder. I don't bother eating fresh because it's much better left out even just a day. Bacteria digests it for you. After some days steak tears apart so easily.
>>175653One animal eats parasites and doesn't get sick. Another eats parasites and dies. It's weakness.
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In other news, I'm reviving my trading career. I keep remembering the small fortune I gambled away all at once, and I think I'll get over it by trading again. I've already multiplied my little money a bit. Once I get my next autismbux check monday I'm going to transfer all my money to RH and have enough to use margin again. With my debit card I can use some of the margin to spend on anything I need. I remember how much I loved debt when I was using loans to buy more money. Borrowing money to buy more money is the uncommon man's way to get rich. Hopefully I'll start a ranch this spring. Even if I lose all my money, my autismbux is enough that I can pay monthly installments for a quite small piece of land. I see a couple acres for sale, owner financed and no credit check. Ya gotta have a good imagination to discover ways to live better.
No.176167
Eating too much meat causes colon cancer and raises your cholesterol to to the roof. This is what ketofags don't tell you. And if you eat the meat raw you run the risk of getting infected with all sorts of parasites and bacteria.
No.176177
>>171018Mongols have one of the lowest life expectancies on the whole planet, both today and historically.
No.176179
This is why I hate researching what to eat and not, because it is contradictions everywhere. And this thread is the epitome of it, carnivore fags and vegan fags both saying that their diet is best and the opposite diet is poison. Both have plausible arguments and sometimes back them up with seemingly trustworthy studies. All I know for sure is that humans are omnivores and over-processed food is unhealthy. So I'm just going to keep doing what I've been doing, eating a variety of things and trying to get them as close to source as possible.
No.176221
>>176215Do keep us updated. This thread is a really fascinating read.
No.176694
The ground beef I ate today was so dry it was black. It was nice that way. Don't know why it got drier than it has in the past.
No.176695
>>176215This is why I love this website I am very interested in your project but I have to ask as someone who has bred rats why not just breed rats and eat them? are you planning to eat the guniea pigs raw beause if you are cooking them you could just raise rats they can live off the rubbish you have in your home and breed very fast I am surprised more people do not just breed rats for us to eat.
No.176720
>>176695Hmm haven't considered it cause I want animals that eat their ideal diet and omnivores seem complicated to feed. Guinea pigs graze grass + eat some veggies for vit C. I can make those easily with a grow light connected to a timer.
Now that you mention it and I look at pictures of them they look tasty though. It'd be cool to tie a ton of them together with their tails.
No.176769
>>176766Not quite, my main point was that guinea pigs are pets for the americans. So it's like if OP killed dogs for their meat like the chinese do, it'd be crazy and completely unnecessary.
No.177076
>>176766Off topic but I'd be interested to hear more about your religion, Wiz
No.177078
>>176766>delusionsA cannibal is unequivocally more grand than the sheep who make up this decaying society.
No.177111
>>177075The Vanishing refrence?
No.177114
>>177112pork backstrap/tender loin/ eye fillet?
No.177119
>>177112Get that disgusting shit off my board, faggot.
We do not welcome animal cruelty on this board.
No.177120
>>177112What recipe do you use to prepare that?
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