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 No.173594

Why is learning new things treated differently than other hobbies?

If you play a video game, watch a movie, or masturbate to porn, everyone just sort of accepts that it is ephemeral.

However, when you learn something there is this pressure to remember it, to make sure you don't forget, to make sure you're learning something 'worthwhile', otherwise, what was even the point?

If you remove this pressure, learning is actually enjoyable. Learning in an ephemeral way, not caring if you retain the knowledge, just being happy that you learned something new in that moment.

I'm sure many of you can relate. I'm sure the things you are the best at are things you accidently got good at. No intention beyond just living in the moment and chasing what was interesting to you at the time. I think this mindset can be applied to more traditional study subjects too.

Any thoughts?

 No.173595

>>173594
>masturbate to porn
nope

 No.173598

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It's very simple, learning takes effort, consuming media doesn't. Judging by this post I think you could be some sort of autodidact who enjoys learning and obsessing over research and books, and that's great, but for most people those things are incredibly boring and tedious, they feel like a grind. People want to remember what they learned because they don't want to go through the effort and hard work of relearning it again if they forget it. Think about this, take your favorite piece of media, game, show, whatever. Now imagine if you suddenly forgot everything about it, I think it's safe to say that the act of "relearning" the media, i.e re experiencing it, will be immensely pleasurable, forgetting media increases overall pleasure, but forgetting your studies decreases overall pleasure. See what I mean?

If learning is fun for you, then you would actually be rewarded for forgetting it, since the act of re learning it is actually fun. If you ended up good at some skill by accident and with no directed effort or planning on your part, then clearly that act of studying and learning was fun for you, you don't mind learning on your own without pressure because it's pleasurable.

 No.173599

>>173598
I think it's the pressure of wanting it to be worth your time and having to remember it that makes it feel like a grind to begin with though. It's kind of like how you can take someone who likes doing something, give them money for doing that thing, and then take the money away after a while and they will just stop doing it.

 No.173610

If you don't retain the information then you haven't actually learned anything.

Please look up what learning actually means.

 No.173611

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>>173594
>That stupid OP image.
I fixed it. Maybe someone could take OP's image and put classical and post-renaissance art on the right too.

 No.173612

>>173611
me on the right

 No.173613

>>173598
>learning takes effort
It didn't feel like I was putting any when I was learning playing guitar.

 No.173614

>>173610
I guess you can't truly learn anything if you just end up dead at the end of the day.

 No.173617

>>173594
I'm like this. And almost no one understand the joy of learning new stuff. It it only thing that I never started hating.

 No.173674

i superficially learn tons of stuff by looking up words and diving into random/related subejcts, clicking and reading through wikipedia articles

the 'see also' section of wikipedia articles is so damn useful for jumping around things

 No.173713

>>173613
For some people learning is very fun and those people are very lucky, I'm sure you've met someone who obsessed over a technical subject like programming or science. The thing is there is nothing you can do in order to get into that hyper passionate state, it's completely unconscious. It goes back to the idea of what truly creates your interests? Why can some people enjoy studying for hours and hours and have fun but others can't stand 10 minutes? I think if you are not born with this ability you are fucked.

 No.173717

>>173613
There is a difference learning something for leisure and studying something you want to do professionally.
I grantee you would have felt the pressure once you had to preform for bands or at parties.

 No.173727

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When people hear the word "learning" they confuse it with "memorizing". When you learn something, you're acquiring a skill or perspective that's based on the resources or people you happen to consult with; it's a personal experience that way. The brain is wired to recognize patterns and draw conclusions. That's fun. But people are scared by "the pursuit of knowledge" because they think of the multiplication tables and historical dates they were forced to memorize in grade school. It's becomes work and they don't see any personal expression involved.
I don't consider clicking around Wikipedia articles for fun facts to be learning either, which is what some people in this thread seem to talk about. It's like flipping through TV channels. You might find something interesting to explore further and have a genuine interest in, but most of the time you're feeding your brain useless information that I think is more exhausting to it than the "work" of learning. More awareness is always exciting and there's merit to that but learning only really happens when that pressure or motivation to perform well is on you.



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