I think many people relate. Family is not chosen, and so we are often situated with people we would otherwise never interact with. My family is rather fucked in its composition, but essentially I feel much love towards one of my parents, while the other is a complete stranger. And I relate to being a stranger in your own home. I feel the need to hide all aspects of my life from them. >I can't bring myself to love them.
We are on wizchan, love is something few of us can feel in any capacity, let alone towards many people.
Yes I've never been close to any person and that includes my own family
It's "weird" in that it contradicts normalcattle sentiment but it makes perfect sense, which is why I share that feeling. No one is mentally indebted to others by circumstances of their birth outside of their control. Most "attachment" to parents people claim to have is just animalistic dependence on what is (or was) a provider, or social conditioning and medial engineering playing on emotions. I'd happily cut all contact with my family if I had the means of sustaining myself, but since I'm a shut-in with no income I'm financially dependent on them. I may not be attached to them but I don't dislike them enough to become voluntarily homeless.
>>176077>Family is not chosen, and so we are often situated with people we would otherwise never interact with
no shit, it's because you live with them as an adult
>>176077>I feel the need to hide all aspects of my life from them
i learned this early on as a kid, whenever i would talk to them it would end up with something bad happening to me because they didnt really view me as my own person. if they found out i was doing something they disapprove of they wouldnt try to talk me out of it they would just punish me.
an integral part of forming a relationship is honesty, and if you cant talk to someone honestly then you dont really have a relationship with them.
I think that's okay. I wouldn't be surprised if it's always been the norm just people now have forgotten.
I never liked them even as a kid/teenager.
You pretty much described the relationship I have to my parents. I don't have a single remarkable emotional memory related to my parents. They never were attachment figures to me. I was basically doing stuff by myself all the time. I don't hate them but certainly don't love them. I feel like if they would suddenly get terminally ill and die it would barely affect me other than the structural problems that would go along with their death. But that's the way it is. It's not my parents fault really as nobody really has control over what they are doing anyways.
It might be one of the reasons why I'm extremely unempathetic towards most people and never feel an emotional connection. I at best feel disgust and hate towards people that annoy me and curse their infinite stupidity. Not that I'm any better but that negativity is all I'm capable of when thinking of the human race. At least I'm not racist in any kind. I despise everyone the same.
>>176077>Family is not chosen, and so we are often situated with people we would otherwise never interact with
This so fucking much.
Adding a dissenting voice to say I'm really quite attached to my mother and am depressed over her ageing/impending death. At times I've envied those who've never felt anything for their "close" family - I figure they just skip straight to the "emptiness" part without going through grief, or something.
Yeah I couldn't get attached to any person in my life, including mom and dad.
as someone who lost a mom i was emotionally attached to, i have wondered how others may process the grief of close family at their final hour. my siblings and myself have witnessed quite a lot of turmoil with our father as we grew up, so perhaps for that reason we were grew closer to each other and to a parent that cared more than the other.
here's to hoping your mom lives a wonderfully long life, anon
I feel the same for the most part, except the travel part, had to go on a holiday every year with them, which I never particularly enjoyed, I always thought it was more enjoyable to just play video games than go abroad to 'experience culture' (read: go to the beach and a fancy restaurant) but that's another matter
I definitely don't love my parents, they're just some individuals that I'm supposedly meant to love unconditionally, and they supposedly love me unconditionally, but I have trouble buying into either belief
when it comes down to it dealing with my parents is just like dealing with a normalfag boss who also wants to be your therapist at the same time
>>177187>go to the beach and a fancy restaurant
Lowkey wish my old folks did that once in a while. Are you from a rich family?
upper middle class, I guess
none of that wealth trickles down my way so I'd prefer a middle-middle class family that didn't helicopter me
even my parents despise me
I'm glad I left my parents home I couldn't stand them at all.
I really want to leave but I don't have a job yet.
I lived with my family as basically a hikki until my late 20s. Now been on my own for a year in another country. I barely talk to them - havent even done a phone call. They know i have a lot of anxiety and hate phones. But they must be upset and secretly be bitching about me 'abandoning' them.
Since I have been away from them, I gradually began realising how toxic the family situation was for me. But to my mother it must seem like everything was fine and then I just disappeared and cut contact.
I feel guilty and sociopathic because I don't feel like talking to them.
If I had to go back I would just kill myself, so maybe I associate them with those feelings of home.
Feels very conflicting and awkward. I'm expecting they will break down one day and start guilt tripping me. The first time I call them or see them (if it ever even happens) is going to be disturbing. I suppose my plan should be to try to postpone the 'fuck you' breakdown from them as long as possible even if it means putting in the effort to talk to them a bit when i dont feel like it. Slowly cut them off.
Mainly i'm questioning myself about why I feel like this. I really thought I would miss my mother and want to talk to her
Basically my situation except I moved within the same country and still call them once in a while. My mom says I can come back to stay with her however long I want. Maybe I was wrong to move away from her in the first place. It's really been eye opening because I'm autistic and learned the hard way from being on my own how the world treats people like me. That is normalfags want to see me dead. The only things I have in this life are my family, copes and neetbux. At least for now.
i can relate , they destroyed my whole life also
How the fuck do they pay you to move out on bux
you are enlightened not having any attachment to even your own parents. I found my mom dead in her blood soaked bed. It was horrifying but i didn't really cry about it. (was an hero by the way)
as long as I can live as neet I don't mind them too much
My parents fought a whole bunch. But I got the feeling that when I went over a friend's house, I was just seeing the choice bits and their parents fought too.
So consider your idealization of your friend and his father something like that. Like the flaws of social media before social media. Or maybe not and you and I just got shitty hands dealt.
i was raised by a single mother. I never met my dad. i don't really a give a shit if i ever do. probably some boring piece of shit like the usual guys my mom likes
my mother is a refrigerator mother, and as a result of that my emotional/social development is stunted
i am actually glad i never had a dad. it means i have fewer obligations to family.
i don't have pretend to like some guy because he's related to me
the fewer family members you have the better off you are i believe
orphans don't know how great they have it
At least they tolerate my NEETness.
>>179609>orphans don't know how great they have it
oh fuck off
I am finishing up college now, but I spent the last 1.5 years of covid-time with my family (i have a big one). There was some friction but ultimately interacting with my family was fulfilling in an addicting way. It's hard to describe, it felt like there was nothing else that could compare or nothing that could be worth doing.
Now I am alone, after I graduate and get a job, I will be alone. I am and will be alone. "One in a field, you cannot be a warrior" is a saying I've been thinking about. I'll have to be more than a warrior. I'll have to be a monk, craftsman, and a warrior. I'll have to adhere to my dream, build it with my own hands, and defend it. I don't think there's anything else that's worth doing in this life.
Does anyone else want to murder their parents/steparents before suicide in Minecraft? It would upset my siblings but just like in prison if someones consistently putting you down you commit extreme violence against them to protect your sense of manhood, especially when youre parents are failures taking their aggression on you, I cant wait tom get fit and scare the shit of my fat cunt of a stepfather who thinks hes a crypto god, be snarky again motherfucker, try it.
Me sober here, I was blackout drunk when I wrote this, even though I did say it was a joke by saying in Minecraft in the post I want to reiterate I by no means want to murder or hurt anyone, I actually love my parents, they've helped me a lot and been very generous to me. I just wanted to vent here because sometimes they take little jabs at me, and as I said I was blackout drunk when I wrote that post. Just wanted to clear this up because I felt like such an ungrateful dick and by no means meant what I said, luckily I'm going into rehab in a few days.
it's too late now
i'd be expecting a visit if i were you
I've not loved them since age 11 or so but to be fair got landed in foster care though ironically ended up back with them again as a neet…
So no, it's because they are shit people of which is why you are here being abnormal to be blunt.
nature vs nurture
I've wanted to kill them for a few years now, the 'father' especially.
I feel the same way with my father i didnt see him much
Its pretty telling that most people who feel this way are also being supported by their family.
You are fucking delusional
The nobility got something in their relationship with their vassals. Your parents get nothing.
we are just robots carrying their selfish genes
It makes sense. People with bad families leave if they can. People who are forced to stay with bad families will be the ones left to complain and suffer in the inescapable toxic situation. I don't understand what insinuation you intended to make.
I assume for you it will be emptiness, since you obviously love your parent.
For me though, being one of those that feel detached from their parent, I don't think it's an empty feeling. More along the lines of understanding that some stranger is on their way to dying or already dead.
"oh, that's unfortunate. I hope that won't hinder my plans." I might say, when this parent of mine finally passes.
i never felt attached to my parents because they’re horrible people
If the family were so good at providing support they'd have produced sons capable of living on their own. This isn't support, it's ongoing failure.
More like abuse than failure
I'm gonna drag them down with me, want it or not. From their side it might be failure too.
Update: now they are finally saying they're upset and hurt by how I dont want them in my life. I still feel like I just dont want to talk to them at all, but i dont know how to get rid of the burden of them. No sense of resolution will ever be possible. If I were to try to go truly zero contact then I would never be able to justify it to them.
Lately I've been thinking about violently murdering them and then myself.
go on any normalfag site and you'd see plenty with similar sentiments, just not worded the same
Idk I feel like I lucked out with my parents. We're about to get a house in the countryside and chances are I will inherit it once they pass away. They don't mind me staying here at all as long as I contribute some of my neetbux every month.
I had helicopter parents but I was lucky enough to have some good conversations with my dad. My mom was more distant but I do feel bonded in the sense that if I saw them in pain I would suffer too. Along with being extremely angry at whatever caused it
Emotional support though?
its a normal reaction to a shitty upbringing. my parents were just never there. they "tried" to be there emotionally but when your kid doesnt see you for 12+hrs of the fucking day then dont act surprised when your'how was your day son' or 'lets go to the xyz' falls on deaf ears. I never wanted to hate my parents. i cant change the circumstances of my life. being malnourished most my life and having any growth stunted doesnt help either. the worst thing is they know what they did wrong. TLDR i was just a "lets have another one" baby. a living decoration for the house. like a dog
>>191153>like a dog
Parents were probably pets of the US dollar makers or bankers, themselves.
I'm kinda neutral on them. Never had Any problems, My parents supported me and everything. they Are just retired boomers. They dont Do anything except go For Walks, sauna and watch TV. I Try to Make based jokes about jews and niggers. But they rarely go along. I dont Have anything to talk about with them. If they died I dont think I would miss them, i would also get like 300k in inheritance which would improve My Life.
Just old people with one son.
I get the impression that most parents just got married and had children because it was the thing to do, but they didn't really like it once they did and just half-assed the job at best or either balked (usually the parent) or took out their frustration at a life they didn't like on their kids (usually the mother).
>>191184>I Try to Make based jokes about jews and niggers. But they rarely go along
You must be a male virgin and at least 18 years old to use this website.
heh i wish i could have been fortunate enough to have been born into money like that. they were lower middle class wage slaves