No.176828[Last 50 Posts]
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https://wizchan.org/wiz/res/168642.htmlPost tips and information for homeless or about to be homeless wizards
No.176829
Rent a public storage so your stuff doesn't get stolen or lost. Get a gym membership to shower. Avoid other homeless people. Don't do drugs or alcohol.
No.176830
>>176829Also, make sure that when you buy a sleeping bag, make sure it is a "mummy" sleeping bag so you can close the sleeping bag around your body for insulation purposes. Regular sleeping bags are too wide and leak heat like crazy, even if they are 0 degree rated. I have to stuff mine with a giant blanket just to insulate the heat and not freeze overnight.
No.176831
>>176830What about safe places to sleep?
No.176832
>>176831I sleep on my college campus in Boise which is very safe. If you are in LA or something, make sure to stay in the public eye so scavengers don't steal from you or hit you in the face overnight. L.A. is also incredibly segregated against popular though. Imagine a video game map with "popular" districts, and high-immigrant tweaker neighborhoods, so stay in places like West Hollywood, or Santa Monica to be safe
No.176833
>>176832>"popular" districtsI meant to say wealthy/rich districts.
No.176835
How do you accept the fact that you'll be homeless for the rest of your life? I'm autistic and only have SSI to live on for now.
>can't work or save enough money to rent an apartment
>can't drive so living in a car isn't possible
>don't go to college so staying on a campus isn't available
>have nobody to rely on like friends or family
Can it get any more fucked?
No.176836
>>176835Start calling local autism organizations to see if they can offer advice and support. Good luck, wiz.
No.176837
>>176835>How do you accept the fact that you'll be homeless for the rest of your life?Preparedness helps. Once you become knowledgeable and materially equipped well enough to survive outdoors, all that will remain is the emotional attatchment to the comfy life. Letting go isn't easy. In a worst case scenario you may even be able to trick yourself into believing you've severed your ties only to get hit by homesickness hard when hoboism does come around. If you live a depressing life frequented by loss and physical hardship then eventually the thought of sleeping on top of a sewer grate to stay warm loses its fear factor. Don't push yourself to become hard-tempered by going out of your way to induce despair while you still live comfortably though. Instead, when bad things happen in your daily life, reflect on how being homeless might have made things different. Would you have experienced that particular bad thing if you were living outdoors? If not, then rejoice that you won't experience it again in the fiture.
The objective problems of homelessness vanish when if you prepare for them ahead of time. Shelter, heat, food, water, transportation, health+safety… All things that can be learned how to obtain on a zero budget, and all things that can be prepaired for ahead of time to give yourself a massive advantage on the streets. If you're certain that you will have no home in the future, then buy what you may need now to survive outdoors where you live. Look at 3-day pack setups from preppers and outdoor enthusiasts, create and fulfill a checklist of environment-specific essentials, then keep whatever gear you've manifested safe and at the ready. Watch videos of diy shelter, hobo living, and again outdoor survivalism and build up knowledge of basic out-of-house existence tips. If you do this, the thought of 'how to survive' won't interfere with the thoughts of 'why bother surviving' after you take that final step out the door.
No.176838
>>176837Yes, the best advice I can give wizards is to NOT idealize homelessness. It isn't like a movie where it's fun and adventurous. Imagine walking 3 miles with remnants of stool irritating the inside of your anus from the chaffing back-and-forth. Imagine losing your wallet at a restaurants. Imagine getting arrested and going to jail with wizard-antithetical scum who talk nonstop about fucking succubus.
No.176839
>>176837Great post, but why do all that when you could get yourself locked up instead? I often hear that "three hots and a cot" phrase thrown around by the homeless. If you have nothing to lose anyway, then going to jail or getting committed to a psych ward seem to be viable options. It beats wandering around all day outside doing nothing. I also heard you even get help like job placement or social services once you are released from jail, or am I missing something?
No.176840
>>176839idiots enjoy the simplicity of jail, go figure. Some people enjoy their freedom
No.176841
>>176839there's always lots of homeless when I get put in the hospital, it seems like a viable method of living, you get free food and water and television and movies and unscheduled drugs whenever you ask, but you gotta act crazy enough for them to not release you and if you act too crazy you get put with actual crazy people, it seems like a lot of work and social manipulation, also laws depend where you're from
No.176842
>>176841Yeah makes sense, I was hospitalized for mental illness multiple times before. It seems viable to me. Like you said, you have to act pretty insane, but it shouldn't be much of a problem for a seasoned wizard. And of course, stay away from the schizos if you can help it.
>>176840>t. never been homeless No.176843
>>176842I am a homeless student. Don't you dare patronize me. But go to jail please, maybe you'll enjoy that life :)
No.176844
>>176842>it shouldn't be much of a problem for a seasoned wizardit depends, if you are shywiz you might have trouble acting out, though I never tried staying longer than the minimum 4 days because I'm not homeless so it might be easy to get in there for a while
No.176845
>>176843You're the one that called me an idiot. I'm just as fucked up as you are, probably even worse since I can't imagine having the privilege of being a student.
No.176846
I’m semi homeless at this point (living in an avandoned Playhouse in the woods sometimes and when I have 10 bucks spare in a group house like right now), legally I am at least but Ive yet to get any money from state and its not sounding good. I think I hit the jackpot though. At the local grocery store they have these big boxes where they throw stuff out each month and in one of the crates they put bottles and stuff I think they take out from the recycling place but they don’t destroy them so I can put in the same bottles each time. It’s like a free money glitch irl. It’s only like 5 bucks every day but sometimes theres more
>>176840“Freedom”, having to spend hours looking for cans or finding a place to charge my phone (and my power bank which got stolen at the house, fucking gypsies)? Wagies are more free, tho being homeless in the countryside is better I had family pass away so I spent the last of my bank money on bus and train. And now I’m stuck in Stockholm again back where I started my journey, havent posted here in long because not as many places to charge phone and life being too hard to make me motivated enough to
No.176848
>>176847its half 4 and i might sleep soon but post when i get up but maybe stay up a little longer
No.176851
>>176828Any homeless wizards have experience getting stalked by police? How do you handle this? Do you think it's fair that they do this to you?
No.176853
>>176851They don't like wasting their time on homeless guys. If they don't like you being somewhere they generally just tell you to move along and wait to make sure you leave.
No.176855
>>176851Who cares? If they want to stalk you, let them. You're not doing anything illegal, right?
No.176857
>>176830This is a good idea for summer as well, as it keeps the mosquitoes out.
No.176858
>>176846No one is truly free.
No.176860
>>176836>local autism organizationsThose don't exist.
No.176886
Im the Swedish homeless wiz and all the lights just shut off, my phone has 25% and all the stores are dark too so I can’t charge. Might be a huge outage but I’m not sure
No.176893
>>176857Maybe in desert areas where the temp drops at night, but everywhere else you are better off using netting and not sweating through your cloths, soke the bag each night, and giving yourself heat stroke.
Instead use it as bedding and lay on top of it when it's hot.
No.176894
>>176828I remember a few times when I was sent to a mental hospital at least in my state a few of the people there were homeless and the mental hospital offered them a long term facility for free temporarily and a social worker that would at least find them a group home or a place to stay and even NEETbux. Any homeless wizards need to do this and just LARP as a schizophrenic I'm not sure if every mental ward offers this though.
No.176895
>>176894> I'm not sure if every mental ward offers this thoughThey don't.
It is a limited program that only is a thing in a few cities here and there. Usually with the qualifications to get it being wildly different from place to place.
It is something worth keeping a eye out for though.
No.176901
>>176894>LARP as a schizophrenic>not realizing they can take blood and DNA samples to check this>not realizing they scan your brain and brain activity to check for thisOk man, whatever you say
No.176906
>>176901Schizoprehnia is not something you can test for by blood. It's not a genetic discord, it's a mental one which can be caused by biology or how you were raised.
Why are you so angry at everyone? Is it because your family hates you?
No.176919
>>176906NTA but schizophrenia does seem to be biological in some unknown sense but that wizzie was wrong because depression can be "tested" for via blood but that does not mean anything I have been tested and seen it did not come up with anything but am diagnosed anyway
No.176921
>>176919There's a higher risk if you have the right biology but people without that biology also risk it. Even if they do a full DNA test on you they can't tell if those risk genes have been activated or not.
No.176923
>>176901That it's even remotely how it works.
Where the hell are you getting your bad info from?
No.176924
One of the positive things about being homeless is knowing that things can't possibly get any worse for me. I find it easier to accept death this way.
No.176925
>>176924You could be raped and tortured by a gang of niggers. Do you think being burned alive isn't worse?
No.176968
>>176961What does autism have to do with driving.
I know quite a few autistic people including ones that are intellectually disabled that can still drive and get their license.
That said, if you have money for a car/van you probably got enough money to rent a room somewhere.
Ether way it is better then staying on the streets.
No.176975
I was destined to sleep on a park bench, I'm too retarded and incompetent to know what to do on a job site.
No.176976
>>176829>rent a public storage so your stuff doesn't get stolen or lostThat costs money
>Get a gym membership to showerThat also costs money, not to mention getting a locker too
>Avoid other homeless peopleImpossible, you'll run into some, or they'll run into you eventually
>Don't do drugs or alcoholEasier said than done, but easily the best advice
No.176977
What should you pack and bring along I'm preparation of homelessness? Any specifics?
No.176978
>>176977Depends where and how long you'll be homeless. Basics include a backpack with sleeping bag and small tent if possible. Different places require specialized gear, for example if you're somewhere more tropical you might want a bug net and thin sleeping bag while if youre in the north you might want a thicker sleeping bag
No.176982
>>176978Canada, and for the long haul.
No.176994
>>176982From the few days I've spent sleeping outdoors so far I'd say the essentials for snowy weather are:
-Thin, one-size-up, moisture wicking thermal insulating long underwear set.
-Sleeping pad dedigned to reflect ground heat, inflatable kinds are great
-Sleeping bag rated for subzero safety
-Any tarps you can carry.
-Fluffy hat and gloves, even dollar store ones.
Sleeping on frozen ground and concrete felt as warm as an indoor bed once the air inside the bag and mat matched my body heat. On a -9c night I had to strip down to just the underwear, and if you get a bag big enough to sit up in, the tempurture inside when just idling on your phone can become unbearably hot
Wearing a covidmask to sleep helps to reduce moisture buildup in front of your face, which can ice up your bag.
Laying atop and under tarps will keep the snow off the bag which is vital unless you're urban and near a laundromat.
There are other neccesities but a bad sleep makes for a bad day, so if you're able to regularly score ample hours of cozy sleep, your mind will be in the right place to improve things further. I have more to say but frankly it's time I hit the hay myself, will post more later
No.176996
Why is there so much homeless obsession here?
No.176997
>>176996Because we're outcasts from society and not all of us are cut out for programming. Sage yourself out of the universe.
No.176998
>>176996The bum lifestyle and outcasts tend to go hand in hand.
No.176999
>>176996More then a handful of us have ether been homeless or are at the risk of being homeless in the near future and there are a few who are currently homeless that post in these threads.
You would know that if you bothered to read any of the homeless threads or lurk more but instead you want to be rude and out yourself as a low attention newfag.
No.177000
>>176999If all you do is watch cartoons and play games all day eventually you end up homeless. It's why it's dangerous to encourage people to dwell in their misery instead of taking steps to avoid being homeless during winter.
No.177002
>>176999Cute.
I was aware of some of that. Read some of the stuff. That's why I noticed the trend. It's kind of interesting, but it would be more interesting to get into the finer points and causes why people go homeless so much here. (I thought.)
No.177003
>>177000This is why I wish I had killed myself.
No.177004
>>177002Social outcasts have a knack for getting ostracized from the normalfag's love and kindness
No.177005
>>177002It's actually really simple to understand. Homeless people are the way they are because they can't afford to live in conventional housing, like an apartment or house. But, you must be thinking, they can just get a job, right? That would be a great solution, however it's not easy to find work anymore, especially the kind that pays enough to have a roof over one's head. Zero (or insufficient) income equals no shelter.
A lot of homeless people also have substance use disorders and/or severe mental illness, which makes it really difficult to find work because nobody wants to hire someone like that. So they are basically left with few options unless they stop using drugs or being mentally ill long enough to make enough money to get off the streets.
It seems like wizards in general suffer from social ostracism, which would make it much harder to fit in with society and be productive members of society (myself included).
No.177006
>>177005Most homeless people are mentally ill or drug addicts of some fashion. Functional people can always get benefits in western nations. It might not be a lot but it's enough to survive and get a shed to sleep in some where.
Most the homeless people here I've noticed have really bad attitude problems. They're abusive constantly and have no interest in fixing their own problems. They're too passive to apply for autism bucks and end up homeless.
No.177019
>>177006>They're too passive to apply for autism bucks and end up homeless.I have autism bucks and I'm still homeless.
No.177020
>>177016Do you have anything productive to add to the the discussion or are you just going to be passive aggressive?
No.177039
Oh great, another homeless thread.
Can't wait for about 99% of the wizards ITT to talk about how they can't wait to be homeless, and how it'll be fun and they get to live their dreams of being a vagabond, only for them to not realize you don't get your computer, or your anime, or your chicken fingers served to you hot and on a plate. You wouldn't last a week on your own, and to the actual homeless wizards, my condolences and best of luck to your health.
No.177041
>>177039>99% of the wizards ITT to talk about how they can't wait to be homeless, and how it'll be fun and they get to live their dreams of being a vagabond, only for them to not realize you don't get your computer, or your anime, or your chicken fingers When has that ever happened before? The previous thread is still up if you could link some examples of this happening.
No.177045
>>177041Ignore the retard.
No.177079
>>176860wiz tell me, what do you want to do?
No.177080
>>177039Wiz are you speaking from personal experience?
No.177104
Being homeless is actually a blessing in disguise. It's the ultimate motivator. If you were already unmotivated to commit suicide, then not being comfy ever again will definitely light the fire under you to jump off a skyscraper. Or if you're still too afraid to do that, you could just die of natural causes like illness after not going to the hospital for treatment. The possibilities are truly endless.
No.177118
Selling or giving away most of my possessions. Living in a decent space feels somewhat uncomfortable. But homelessness in one's actual thirties is not appealing.
Think I need a tiny hermit cabin or cave I can keep super clean.
No.177132
>>177130whats your lan stay homeless and just get a comfy set up? keep us updated
No.177133
>>177131I think if he had income to save up several thousand dollars he wouldn't be living in a tarp.
Odds are he wouldn't be homeless to begin with.
Homelessness isn't happy fun adventure fort time. It's use what very few resources you have to not die time.
No.177139
>>177130Warmer weather will be ahead, don't lose hope!
No.177147
>>177133>Homelessness isn't happy fun adventure fort timeIt is if you aren't a loser who's ruled by his base whims.
No.177148
>>177039>only for them to not realize you don't get your computer, or your animeCan't you just get a cheap laptop, rechargeable external power supply, watch it in your tent and then recharge at a coffee shop?
I see most homeless people have cellphones actually.
No.177149
>>177039Not everyone here is a pathetic dopamine addict.
No.177156
>>177154They can try but this wiz will stand his ground.
No.177160
>>177147Then you wouldn't be homeless ether at all or for very long.
No.177161
>>177148A laptop in a homeless situation is not a good idea.
Lugging around a psu is absurd as those shits are heavy.
If either gets wet your shit is fucked.
Cellphone is better when you are homeless, tablet computer at most with a really sturdy case.
Even if your shit doesn't get stolen it will get broken or it will break you by being too cumbersome.
Homelessness is a life of mobility even if you are more or less hanging around the same spot.
Too much weight and too much shit will become a burden.
Murphy's law loves fucking with you while you are down so anything that can break should be assumed that it will. It better be something you can go without or can easily replace.
Cellphones can be replaced easily. Laptops are a pain when you don't have a shipping address.
Lastly if you have the money for data it is much easier to have internet access with a smartphone.
This may come as a shock to you but most homeless aren't tech illiterate. They know how to use laptops n shit. It just isn't as practical to street life. If I was given a laptop while I was homeless I would have just pawned it. I love computers, including my current computers, but it just isn't worth it.
No.177172
>>177156Sure thing tough guy, if they have a knife or something, you're gonna back down pretty goddamn quick.
No.177175
>>177154Most homeless people immediately spend whatever money they scrounge up on hooch or dope.
No.177176
>>177175In my exp most long term homeless are just untreated mentally ill.
Junkies are better at couchsurfing and squatting. They tend to be more functional and thus have more ways of puting a roof over there head.
No.177177
>>177176You probably think that because they're high most of the time and have psychological damage from abusing drugs.
No.177184
>>177175I would buy a hot dog from 7-11
No.177198
>>177177No, I think that because I talked to them and had to live around them.
Quit making assumptions about my life experience dude. You don't know shit about fuck.
No.177199
>>177184You could buy 2 loafs of bread from walmart for how much a convenience store hot dog costs. This is why you're poor.
No.177200
>>177199Nah, him not buying some shitty white bread from Wal-mart instead of a 7/11 hot dog isn't why he's poor.
No.177204
>>177199White bread is nutritionally garbage, literally spend the extra $2 and get a small bag of potatoes.
No.177205
New HoboNeet episode, I invited him here so if he shows up that'd be nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFtc235-EEE&ab_channel=hoboNEET No.177207
>>177205Poor, wiz. I honestly feel bad for him. Existing like that is humiliating and shitty.
No.177208
>>177176I wish the homeless junkies would just OD already and free up more resources for the mentally ill who aren't on drugs. People who are addicted to drugs actually have a choice of getting better whereas the mentally ill can't just stop being insane. They need the most help.
No.177209
>>177208Won't ever happen because normals empathize with the druggies more, and their decisions are based on their emotions.
No.177211
>>177209Sadly this is true. Normalfags can't imagine what it's like to be naturally fucked in the head, but they can relate to abusing drugs or alcohol to the point of being retarded. God, I hate this clown world.
No.177212
>>177208To some degree I agree. There are some normgroids who just failed at life due to drugs and became homeless and the drugs are pretty much the only thing holding them back but some wizzards do drugs BECAUSE they are fucked in the head. And don't hit me with the
but you have to be social to get drugs because thats just not true in 2021
No.177214
>>177208Does mental health services actually do anything good for the severely mentally ill beyond NEETbux? Medication doesn't help for anyone but the extreme schitzos and will just make you worse, therapy is a normoid meme too.
No.177215
>>177214No. They exist to provide drugs and disability. There's really no drug you should want from them besides a stimulant, anyway. Benzos for occasional use in killing a bad trip, that's about it I reckon.
No.177216
>>177204And how the fuck do you expect to cook them while homeless in anywhere but the deep country?
No.177217
>>177214Long term it's a crap shoot most of the time but short term emergency care is a god sent sometimes. I have seen so many people who were saved from a pretty bad episode due to direct emergency intervention that helped them stabilize. Long term aid for the severely mentally ill alone doesn't have very good odds. What is needed in those cases is a proper support network of family and other/or other people who are in their lives who care about and help keep them on track. Something worth struggling for and people who will struggle with them, kind of thing.
Some program can't give them that. It might be a small piece but it alone can't do anything long term.
There are no simple solutions for severely mentally ill people on a societal scale.
No.177230
>>177217>What is needed in those cases is a proper support network of family and other/or other people who are in their lives who care about and help keep them on track.If they had a family or support network, they wouldn't be on the streets to begin with.
>There are no simple solutions for severely mentally ill people on a societal scale.Yes there is, it's called integration. Help them become independent and give them the necessary medications to control their disorder. There's no reason why the mentally ill should continue to live in destitution while the junkies are given every bit of social support just to relapse and OD a short time later anyway.
Why are you even on this site if you think having a mental illness is like some kind of mortal sin that should condemn a person to a life of misery?
No.177252
>>177249Congratulations, you did that in the city limits and now will get your shit kicked in by the cops.
You really think you can just start random fires and not get busted?
No.177254
>>177252>and not get busted?as if starting a fire is somehow wrong doing, especially when you need one to cook food to survive. judging by how viscerally you react to an action that isnt deemed allowed by the public babysitters let me take a wild guess and say youre american.
No.177257
>>177254>as if starting a fire is somehow wrong doingIt is literally against several laws in almost every developed country.
You can not just start fires anywhere you want. Usually for good reason.
No.177260
>>177257NTA but what boot licker you are quite pathetic you are only not allowed to randomly start fires because most people are retards and would burn everything down so really you should be fine if you are not retarded.
Did you not used to be an arsonist as a wizkid? I always started fires as a kid but knew how to control them to some extent or at least only burn down a forest and not peoples homes.
As soon as anime is against the law or being a virgin you would comply because you are such a little boot licker I seriously hate people like yourself.
No.177262
>>177260Fuck off retard and quit trying to start fights over stupid shit in this thread over and over again.
Start all the fires you want. I hope you get shot.
No.177270
>>177266And the cops don't care and will beat the shit out of you and get away with it.
No.177271
>>177270As you've conceded the police don't act justly it's for you to explain why you're rhetorically attacking a homeless wizard instead of the police.
No.177273
>>177262I'm the guy who posted the photo not the guy you're arguing with but I can tell you I've had several fires within city limits. Just don't light anything in an alley in the central districts. The smoke will make people call the fire department if it's too big too. I've made plenty of these in larger parks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMJov2vbQqg&ab_channel=IntenseAngler and its never been a problem. The few times (can count on one hand) I made fires in alleyways I used hastly made rocket stove cans. Looked nowhere near as nice as the pictures but with just a small pile of thumb thickness branches you can have a fire that doesnt make a lot of light or smoke while generating and radiating a lot of heat. You guys need to quit arguing over such menial things.
No.177274
>>177266At the time I took that picture I had just been homeless for a few days and I were very paranoid of someone doing something to me in my sleep so I always went into the woods for like half an hour to sleep where I found the dead campfire I revived there. I later got better at making and keeping them alive myself and I did get in trouble once. It was nowhere near as bad as the other wiz was saying, they just told me I cant do that there and to put it out then they drove away. I later learned to minimize the smoke and fire becasue I thought someone might have called the fire brigade and instead try to get a lot of hot embers in a confined vessel like a can. I'm not homeless now as I got a wageslave position as a store employee, the picture is from last year.
No.177276
>>177273Cant cook potatos on that so back to square one.
No.177278
>>177271I conceded nothing.
Again,you can spout all the bullshit you want. Go ahead and get your ass beat. Hell, probably burn yourself to death judging by some of the post in this thread.
Don't say no one warned you. Don't say someone didn't try to spar you pain from your own dumbass ideas. But some motherfuckers got to learn the hard way I guess.
So go on and learn the hard way.
Do it.
No.177279
>>177278Your pretense was defending the law, as those laws existed for good reason (
>>177257). So when you admit the police, who enforce the law, act outside those bounds you've massively undermined your own position.
You attack a homeless wizard for
perhaps violating a civil fire statute, but implicitly support systemic criminality and violence against said wizard. That makes you a hypocrite.
No.177307
>>177276you absolutely can, why wouldnt you? The fire rises up and you can easily place a crucible to boil the water in on the top
No.177309
>>177307That isn't what the word crucible means.
Please don't use words you don't know what they mean.
>>177279You are really stretching to create a strawman just to call me a hypocrite like that is even remotely a argument while intentionally missing the point I am making.
I will say it again.
If you want to do dumb shit and learn the hard way what the consequences is then go and do it.
No.177310
>>177278behold, the biggest crab on the entire website. viciously trying to drag everyone else to the bottom of the bucket. maybe its because he requires the public babysitters and is enraged to see those competent enough to transcend the need for them. on one hand, society is at a point where people are too retarded to function without the threat of violence upon them. on the other hand, making threats of violence has never been okay to do, the police and government have always been wrong. my dear retard here can only see one side of the story and religiously defends it as the only truth.
No.177311
>>177310>hey don't do this thing because bad things could happenhow dare you drag down and attack people for telling them not to do something that has bad results>fine do the thing then, it's your assHow Dare You Want Homeless Wizards Getting Their Ass BeatYour stupidity knows no limits.
No.177312
>>177205His videos are oddly comfy to watch.
No.177313
Being homeless is probably a step up from frying your brain on porn and video games 24/7 like a lot of NEETs with homes, it can force (some) failed normies to get their shit relatively together.
No.177314
>>177311whats the opposite of a straw man because thats whats going on right now, but as long as you dont think the way you started out thinking im fine. you obviously were not trying to warn someone about the dangers of starting a fire, or the dangers of corrupt police. you were berating someone because they didnt share your slave mentality.
No.177338
>>177313Because jacking off 8 times a day is worse than getting stabbed by a lunatic.
No.177351
>>177313Bootstraps bullshit. You say 'some' but realistically it's only a few, if that. The rest is vulnerable to picking up other, more dangerous addictions such as alcoholism and drugs and frying their brain and their body out in the street. But I guess it's fine if like five percent (pulling that number out of my ass here) 'get their shit together', by which you probably mean seeing some annoying councellor and wageslaving to get a room in one of these modern workhouses.
Not only is your post retarded it is also close to breaking the rules.
No.177356
>>177353If some people enjoy the lifestyle it's up to them and I am not disparaging it on principle, what I find stupid is thinking of it as a potential 'rite of passage' like this moron
>>177313 to eventually become a good normie drone. The reality of the sink or swim mindset is to get the 'unfit' to sink, plain and simple, not to help them in any way.
No.177357
>>177313Yeah frying your brain with alcohol and cheap drugs on the cold is better. You stupid fuck.
No.177360
>>177357He's an obvious troll. Being homeless is like a nightmare that you can't wake up from. I'd rather be dead, but that pesky survival instinct gets in the way far too often.
No.177375
>>177360>He's an obvious trollI'm not so sure about that, this site has been crawling with improvebrahs and idiots who keep repeating stuff from people like Peterson.
No.177376
>>177375where did these idiots come from do they have some website or chat app that targeted us?
No.177378
>>177377They are trolling then right I thought maybe improvbrahs were crabs that stumbled upon wichan and as they are normalfags fixed themselves with normie tier memes and try preach to wizards.
No.177441
For those struggling with food try mixing nut powder, almond powder, honey and olive oil. A spoon of this paste will keep the hunger away + its healthy and gives you energy (it will weaken you the first days tho). A pot of this mixture can last a month or two (depends on how often you eat and the size of the container of course).
Almond powder, olive oil and honey can be found in groceries for peanuts. Not sure about nut powder tho, if not then you should invest in a manual mixer and make the powder yourself with nuts you've bought or found (if your lucky to live in an area with lots of nut trees or wathever you call them lol).
This is the perfect ration for vagabonds
-has everything you need dietwise (1-2 spoons a day is sufficient)
-gives you energy ( you'll want to beat a horse and i'm not even kidding)
-cheap ingredients
-can easely fit in your bag
-lasts long (olive oil keeps it from rotting)
This is all for me, hope it helps.
Good Luck
No.177452
>>177378just trolling. lets all try and stop feeding them
No.177463
>>176829>don't do drugs or alcoholthen why live? give me one reason tbh, these personally are my last cope in this absolute cruel life.
No.177464
I hate the fact im homeless in a 3rd world shithole, I can't even escape or run through borders to another country, I've been doomed to die alone, sleep in cold, starve ev3r since i got disowned by "father" for failing dentistry school. I have my suicide pills ready in my backpack but I'm saving them when im ready, which i wonder why I haven't pulled the trigger yet..
gladly i got a job recently so I spend my time making money doing construction in the day,no trouble with cops as well cuz 3rd world shithole.
No.177465
>>177464>I can't even escape or run through borders to another countryWhy not?
No.177483
Is there any cheaper way to live than a rented apartment? I don't like the idea of spending a couple hundred bucks every month on a place to sleep. I don't really need a bathroom or a kitchen. The obvious problem is of course security, not getting mugged etc. And I don't mean sleeping in a car or buying a house.
No.177484
>>177483Stay in a trailer?
No.177488
>>177483Just living in a car will do if you can hack it.
No.177489
>>177483Trailer, caravans and housebuses are the cheapest, you can go live in a small town in the middle of nowhere too, a lot of areas are rapidly depopulating and the boomers would love a wizard guy to move in for cheap.
Seriously, if you lucked out some old guy in the middle of a small town would happily charge you $50 to $100 a week due to being lonely himself.
No.177491
>>177309>crucible isnt the right word''well im not an english speaker I mean something that holds warm liquid I thought crucible was the right word
No.177494
>>177491Crucible is a extremely high temp vessel usually used to melt metal.
You don't cook with them in the fire. You use them to liquefy gold or iron in a blast furnace.
No.177614
>>177492Other way around. Family cut me out of their life for being too wizardly. Wish I was born in an Asian family. They don't kick their own children out to die on the street and will stay together no matter what.
No.177666
>>177492They're delusional people who have no compassion for mental illness.
No.177860
Still sleeping in this torn up shop / garage and some teens came around and started wrecking things in the house on the property. They came down all giggly to the room I was in and pointed their lights at me. I said yo and they fled like rabbits. Weird
No.177861
>>177860They probably didn't think you'd respond. Lucky they didn't beat you up.
No.178222
>>176846>>176886I obviously dont know your situation but, how do you manage to be homeless in sweden?
I know our safety nets fucking suck ass but as long as you truly dont have any assets to your name you will get help.
from a quick google I found this
https://socialtstod.stockholm/stod-till-hemlosa/there are places for housing, getting free food and somewhere to wash. please get your ass over there.
No.178712
So the waiting list for low income housing where I live is only 6 months, but it's in the worst part of the city and is unimaginably ghetto. I don't want to be afraid of getting shot or robbed by thugs every day, but I feel like I don't have a choice. What should I do?
No.178713
>>178712Estimate if the chances of getting shanked while living in the ghetto are higher than those while living on the streets and then make your choice.
No.178723
>>178713Being holed up in a nigger den is probably more dangerous than not. If I had to make the choice, I would definitely stay homeless.
No.178772
>>178222havent been able to post in a while but I've been using all of them getting food and stuff. I just need money to live not in their housing (they test you for drugs and shit which I would fail). I've been able to get a slightly better place and things are looking better. I'm indoors now and on a real computer thanks to my mom. I guess that settles me as a loser once and for all. I've lost the game of life and am back to living at my mom's. I had to lie and tell her I owed people money and they would find me in those other places. I am walking trash, if you are swedish and in stockholm if you find someone with a black jacket and yellow hat laying passed out drunk in some park (the warm kind, dont know english word for it mössa in swedish) just stab or kick me to death so I don't have to wake up
No.178773
Fuck America this country sucks. Everything is overpriced can't even find a shitty apartment because you need so much money. I fucking HATE this piece of shit country to no end. That is all.
No.178774
This might be unpopular here but fuck it. Dude you are not going to find anything cheaper than government housing. Yes there are nigs but just keep your head down and stay away from them. We are all hikkis mostly so its not that hard.
No.178776
>>178774Idk where you're from, but where I'm from niggers in government housing will literally break into your apartment, steal all your stuff, rape you in the ass then leave. It's no better than sleeping in a tent. I just wish there was a place where wizzies can live in peace.
No.178777
>>1787741. Already did
I sublet and it is by far cheaper then government housing
2. such housing prioritizes single mothers above all else and succubi in general
You are not getting in such housing as a single male.
3. they are hell in every possible way
I struggle to think of a worse place for a wizard to live.
No.178778
>>178776That's pretty rough. They can be bad everywhere so yeah
>>178777Glad you found something cheaper. I could not find anything cheaper than this in my area. It is hard to get as a man but not impossible. And yeah I mean it's not ideal but it's a place to yourself. If you can NEET with family that is always good
No.179156
I've seen that Japan is full of abandoned places. Hospitals, schools, entire neighbourhoods and buildings, etc. Has ever any foreigner try to be homeless approaching those places?
No.179158
>>178776If you establish basic limits and deterrence niggers won't fuck with you. If worst comes to worst and the cops come and take the nogs side, you go and be homeless for a bit and then get back into government housing.
It's only if you're a faggot that starts shit or you're unwilling to assert yourself that you'll get walked upon.
No.179160
>>179158Is this from your personal experience?
No.179161
>>179160It is
They start by testing the waters with light bullying and then escalate. If you don't play their games and just say "leave me the fuck alone, I just want to do my own thing" you can nip the problem right in the bud.
No.179289
>>179156They would go to Japanese jail for trespassing.
No.180011
I saw that hobo neet finally got enough money to get off the streets, good for him.
No.180706
I don't know, houses in rural areas are super cheap, such as the ones in Japan are only hundreds of dollars, yet they still complain about housing price in the cities and prefer being homeless
Seems like the problem is a first world problem
No.180715
>>180706>houses cost hundreds of dollarsWhere?
No.180716
>>180698No, work sucks sometimes but homelessness sucks so much worse.
No.180721
>>180706What if you have access to literally nothing like running water, food, heating? Not to mention extras like clothes or someone throwing you a dollar. No free WiFi either. You get snowed in on a particularly severe winter - you die.
Those prices are cheap for a reason.
No.180722
>>180721It can just be supply and demand. People need jobs and dont want to live in rural places. Older generations were happier living in such places but they are dying out.
Some countries have this, some don't.
Some countries have rural locations that are like desolated deserts where quality of life would be 0/10 like Australia.
No.180723
>>180722Most jobs that were in rural places like steel working and factories just don’t exist in many places anymore. However living in the city is unaffordable for the majority of people, so telework is gonna start allowing the city people to spread out and live further and further away as internet services get better/ more expansive.
No.180805
>>180721No running water/toilet is no problem in a first world country. Grew up like that here in Sweden and you can always manage. It's only an issue in desolate areas.
No.180907
Homelessness is inevitable for me.
No.180910
>>180723There wont be enough "telework" for 90% of the world's 9 or 10 billion people who will soon be alive.
There will be bloody resource wars and a massive rise in organized crime, extortions and people committing very violent robberies of bypassers, businesses and rich people.
No.180915
>>180907If you have time to avert being homeless then you should think of plans now rather then give up and hope you stumble into something while on the streets.
No.180931
>>180915Yeah I'll get right on that…
No.180937
>>180931Is that sarcasm?
If you can type in to Wizchan about homelessness then you can type in to Youtube for guides on surviving outdoors, type in to map sites for places to sleep, and best of all type in to search bars for local shelters or kitchens. Even if hoboness is long away, take some time to research how to get through it now.
No.180938
>>180937You don't "prepare" for the hobo life. It's over at that point. Anything could happen to make your life much more difficult. You could even be arrested for trespassing and wind up behind bars. This happens a lot. Unless you plan on living innawoods, which is pretty much insane if you ask me.
No.180940
>>180938>>180931Your problem isn't homelessness being inevitable. It is your poorly handled depression rendering you helpless.
Get your head right or find out how bad rock bottom really is.
No.180952
>>180940Yeah tell all those mentally ill hobos to "get their heads right" lol. Hope you get attacked by one of them.
No.180955
>>180940I'll get right on that anon…
No.180966
>>180952He wont get attacked because he has a home, you will be the one who is going to have to watch out for other hobos, pigs, niggers and bored youth who all want to rob and beat the shit out of you.
90% of the posters in these threads are wizkids from priviledged families, dont be that idiot who actually goes through with it.
No.180969
>>180966I can just change my hope to you getting cancer . There's plenty of misfortunes which can happen to people who have homes.
No.180989
>>180966You assume that being homeless is a choice. It's not. You probably had everything handed to you in life (like a job, for instance) but it's not the same for everyone. I recommend you do some more research into the matter.
No.180991
>>180989Actually most of these will to power types are socially upwardly mobile, those who started at the top are not so deluded.
No.181021
>let's shit up the thread by making negative baseless assertions about people I disagree with
>That is productive and what this thread is really about
>Telling people who were actually homeless and got out of that situation that they are born privlaged like a retarded sjw
Y'all need to go back to /dep/ with that woe is me bullshit.
It is fucking stupid to call someone privileged or normal for pointing out that actually being homeless fucking sucks shitty ass, and if you think you might end up homeless in the future you should use your time wisely to not end up in such a dogshit situation.
But fuck it, maybe you need to learn that the hard way. Nah none of us who have been there and done that know what the fuck we are talking about. This much all be a larp. You know everything about it because you have the sads and watched a YouTube video or some shit.
Go ahead and find out.
You will see exactly how far blaming and demonizing everyone else will get you. You will see that n matter how far you go you can't get away from yourself and your internally caused problems.
How you will never get anywhere if you never get your head straight.
No.181047
>>181021Normgroid chimps out on wizchan.
No.181115
when i become homeless i need to figure out how i am gonna bathe
fill a milk jug up with water and dump it over me a few times?
No.181116
>>181115Use the showers in public pools and other places. Or just don’t.
No.181117
i want to look as normal as possible so i am not hounded by normalfags and cops
No.181136
>>181115Just go to a sports field, find a building with a tap, strip into your underwear and wash yourself down thoroughly with a bottle of water that you fill and pour over yourself and soap, carry an emergency supply of wetwipes. Then put on a fresh outfit.
Just stashing a bucket in the forest, fill it with water and washing detergent. Have a small scrubbing brush on hand to scrub things properly clean. If it's not fine enough to dry off a treebranch, then use the laundromats to dry it. Or use the laundromats in emergencies, it does get expensive though.
No.181140
>>181115Have you never washed up at a sink before?
That's mostly what I did. Wet wipes helped stay fresh too.
If you got a washcloth even a bowl of water can be enough to get a lot of grime off and stay somewhat fresh. If you also disinfect the skin before or after the water scrub (i usee rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle) then you can get totally clean with very little water. Just be sure to properly dry the wash cloth after every use and wash it every few days or it will get gross.
Only tricky thing is washing your hair if you have alot of it. It can be done in a sink too but it is really tedious.
The disinfectant trick doesn't do much against hair greasiness or dandruff. Just water alone requires large quantities to really thoroughly rinse it out. Which isn't practical when on the streets.
If you have a bit money to work with then a gym membership is a good investment. They usually have showers on site. Plus it's a place you can hangout when the weather is shit.
It's more common for car campers and van lifers though. I didn't do it myself but many swear by it.
Baby wipes can sort of work in a pinch. You won't feel clean but it can keep you from stinking.
Overall if you have short hair it's pretty easy to stay relatively clean.
No.181151
>>177313I did something related last year. Basically went out to live on my own in the middle of nowhere. I spent the summer and autumn in a tent and in a cabin in the winter. It quickly forced me into a routine, so I got things actually done. I still watched some porn, and treated myself with an episode or two of anime in the evening. I'm back in the city now and am being catered after, though I plan on moving out. From my experience, I'd say having putting pressure is fine as long as the person takes it on vuluntaraly. This would mean that most NEETs would have to actually want to improve their lifestyle.