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 No.178941[Last 50 Posts]

What's the appeal of the far right to loser men?

Many wizards seem to get particularly upset about new movies/likewise media products not featuring le epic white chad in them as the main character. Is this really that important? I always thought the chad/loser divide was far greater than the racial one. I feel far more connected to a loser of any racial background than to a chad of my fellow race, they're like aliens to me. Is this not true for other wizards?

 No.178945

crabs are lonely, they lack a strong sense of personal or social identity and they lack self esteem. The far right offers up a sense of identity and community and gives them an enemy to unite against. It tells them they are valuable and superior just because of the color of their skin. It lets them vent their rage and bond with those they can commiserate with. Basically it's a weak cope for weak men who have nothing else. I pity these fools I truly do.

 No.178951

>>178945
I pity the fools who don't like balls!

 No.178952

>>178945
The vast majority of crabs are still young and suffer from low self esteem but there are those few truly fucked up individuals who will never get laid. Perhaps related to a physical or mental defect. One time I read a post on a crab forum and it really resonated with me. This guy had such a rough life filled with bigotry from normalfags for not being right in the head. I think he had autism or something related. Don't remember the exact details but he did not have what you would call a "happy" upbringing. So yeah, I can sympathize with crabs a lot but I'm not as obsessed with pussy as they seem to be.

 No.178962

White altrighters (who usually wear glasses, have weird faces and are short) want movies to have tall white guys with handsome faces because the halo effect also imbues them with some of the respect the chad gets.

You can't replace Chris Hemsworth's Thor with some random black or asian guy or the franchise will lose 90% of its viewers.

Not saying only altrighters watch these movies which is obviously false, I'm just telling you why they gatekeep the protagonists.

Though personally I think a movie with an eskimo or zulu Thor would be really fucking stupid, but each to their own.

As an ethnic wizard (from a third world shithole called India) who is ugly, short, fat and balding
I don't pay any attention to top indian actors like Hrithik Roshan because I already know succubi don't equate me to him.
When they see him, they're just interested in him. Not all indians.

Wish altrighters would see that.

 No.178964

The fact this thread is still up just goes to show how rotten to the core this website is.

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>>178941
>Many wizards seem to get particularly upset about new movies/likewise media products not featuring le epic white chad in them as the main character. Is this really that important?
The demographics of wizardchan are probably mostly white, because most internet users live in the USA and Europe which are also overwhelmingly majority white. All human beings desire to see other human beings that look like them, even reptiles, amphibians and insects do this. Look up classic paintings of Jesus in China and he looks Chinese

It's naturally repellent to a white, mestizo, asian or indian mind to see blacks (who are only 13% of the population in the US, 1% of the population in Canada and Europe) represent a third or more of all characters that appear in the media. In fact these days it seems like blacks are taking the majority of lead roles in film despite being an extreme minority

It's unnatural and repelling when 13% end up as 33%, 50% or even more

 No.178974

>>178966
This just isn't true and you know it. 95% of the lead characters are still white.

 No.178975

>>178964
I've noticed an uptick in the amount of posts here that condemn "losers" in general at least in the past two years

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>>178974
Look on TV or at any advertisement and there's a strong chance it's at least half black, and often it's a black male with a white female

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>>178976
Why the male has to be black, why it can't be asian, arab, indian, or hispanic, why it has to necessarily be black?

 No.178980

>>178978
Don't ask me. I'm just a wizardchan user, not some advertising executive. My image was from the UK too, where blacks are literally less than 1% of the entire population, yet they were in the lead role in every single one of those advertisements

 No.178981

It's freeing to affiliate with the side that opposes "the narrative". Kinda like how everyone is told that Hitler is just a bad guy. Why is he a bad guy? Nazi Germany seemed very functional and pleasing. This is what happens when a society implicity doesn't allow dialectic and ostracizes those who are wondering about what they're told.

 No.178983

>>178978
Ask the politics thread, they'll know.

 No.178984

>>178976
If it really is a jewish plot, then why did all the major movies of the 2010s that I watched have a white male lead character? Every time there's a black succubus taking some kind of a sorta important role it instantly becomes a bombshell. Remember that shitty Harry Potter play?
By the way I don't think crabs should care about normie affairs altogether. Leave the men's business to the men.

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I'm the only here who feel these type of post are extremly disingenuous? They almost smell like normalgroid in hiding.

 No.178995

>>178986
Yeah usually when someone comes here and starts calling everyone losers it smells like a thinly veiled normalfag

 No.178996

>>178995
You have to go back, this is a loser site, its in the name.

 No.178997

It's not so much about whiteness, but rather it's one of the few sides not completely dedicated to disempowering men and shitting on them. And I would say the left and "left" attracts plenty of crabs or so-called "loser" men as well, perhaps moreso. The stereotype of the man who cant get laid but wants to, so he degrades himself by becoming male feminist doesn't exist for no reason.

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>>178997
Yeah this

Just look at how the "left" talks about young men. They're not wanted there, nothing you do will ever be good enough for them.

All politics is a cope, but I perfectly understand dumbass crabs swinging hard to the right with fantasies of one day having a trad-wife.

 No.179004

Painting with broad strokes and as someone not very interested in politics
Alt-right figure heads actively target disenfranchised young men.
Usually with outrage stuff or pretending to be the masculine father figure they never had.
Neoliberals are alienating because they focus on minorities and succubi and usually in impotent and silly ways.
And leftists tend to be elitist academic nerds who are more concerned with coming across as intelligent than winning people over.

 No.179007

First point is that for the new generation politics has become their identity and basic emotional map of reality. There are 18 year olds here who have spent their entire conscious existence consuming online political content, and not only that, it's retarded and mindless content. The general conversation internet has become the home for the emotionally unhinged craving content to make them feel OK.

My analysis of why race and such becomes a big factor for losers

1. Losers have an aversion to conflict and crime, a calm western society where they can live quietly in their suburban house is beneficial. NEETs in the basement in a nice neighborhood. Fear of crime is heightened so the politics connecting this to race and so on taps in to those fears, especially content of social unrest and immigration. Violent protests and so on. Status quo kind of thing.

2. The general fear of social collapse is higher for losers so the discussion of how some group is trying to destroy society in to chaos activates them as well. So the narrative of the stuff the Jews are doing to destroy society clicks on a level of social collapse so blacks in their movies makes them angry. More widely there's the the crab stuff about race and rolling back society for their wife desires, since so many posters here are political/crab shitposters.

3. Losers and poor people like always get the psychological benefit of having a group of people to rage about when they get angry, it gives them the emotional benefit. Rage/anger is something that is free for people who are too dysfunctional to do something positive and can easily be transmitted online, the entire internet right now is people building a space to hate on some imagined image of a group to feel better; reddit subreddits have 100k+ people hating on neckbeards/karens/whatever. It doesn't have to be about belonging, it can be personal emotional management too.
3.a. Racism is an inherited reality with a history that people can tap in to any time, especially the concept of power of other races and imagining oneself over them. Historic normans have already done the work of establishing the cultural concept someone else as lower so just raging about them is easy and free, it's easy to go in to discord and rant about blacks.

4. Losers are the people who are being told they have privilege or how their life is easier, while more successful normans from different races/backgrounds actually seem to have easier lives. The modern culture war shit is easy for them to rage against as an attack on them, and making things worse for them. The accusation of it being about maintaining the status quo that benefits them also references point 1.

5. Stuff like rap and hip hop music is hyper-consumerist, hyper-violent, and generally not the environment for meek losers. Seeing it rewarded with huge amounts of money, influence, and dominance ties in with the world moving towards stereotypical Chad violence.

Giving a black or third world wizard a chance offers them nothing compared to the political beliefs, especially since there's a sea of white losers online. Also remember a certain type of loser comes to these spaces, another kind of loser becomes a twitter or tumblr user.

 No.179008

because muh sjws opress losers
duh

 No.179009

Leftists don't even lift

 No.179010

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>>179007
You'll note that this diagnosis has been carefully crafted to exclude you from any sympathy, marginalize your concerns, and dehumanize you. That it specifically avoids addressing what you know to be true means the person who wrote it knows exactly what they're doing.

 No.179011

>>179010
Your truth is not an Absolute one.

 No.179012

>>179010
I wrote it and share some of the same concerns as a meek loser. I think you're reading it with a certain emotional intention I didn't have. I see the question as one of why people are obsessed with it and integrate it in to their identity, whatever you think is missing is probably because I'm not addressing anything beyond that.

 No.179013

>>179011
What's true is the lived experience of the people which that narrative was written to undermine.

 No.179015

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>>178995
>a thinly veiled normalfag
OP and most of this threads reads like a normalgroid pretending.

"Ohhh how it can be the outcast of society are not coming together with the new trending of mainstream thought that the mainstream media, corporations, the corrupt policians, and the most normalgroids of normalgroids are pushing?"

Is not obligatory to worship the things you like, if you like normalgroid things, good. But don't come to other places pushing your thing on others.

>>178996
Learn to read before replying.

 No.179043

>>179015
Contarianism for the sake of contarianism is pretty dumb. And you only ever use the 'but normies do it!' argument when it's convenient anyway. Kinda like normalfags quoting the Bible but never giving a shit about it in their everyday life.

Most normies aren't into necrophilia or homosex. According to your own retarded logic, true wizzies aren't even attracted to succubi.

One thing wizarddom is supposed to teach a real loser is empathy. After being mistreated, bullied and humiliated your whole life, you generally tend to acquire a sense of compassion for those who are like you, the stupid, ugly, etc. Maybe 'niggers' really are worthless and retarded, well, sounds a lot like our spiritual brethen, doesn't it?

 No.179044

>>179043
>Maybe 'niggers' really are worthless and retarded, well, sounds a lot like our spiritual brethen, doesn't it?
Niggers are worshipped like gods in the media. I don't see the relation to wizard outcasts at all.

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>>179043
>Contarianism for the sake of contarianism is pretty dumb. And you only ever use the 'but normies do it!' argument when it's convenient anyway.
Perhaps you could empathize with why that wiz feels alienated from the mainstream discourse instead of demanding they conform to it. The only reason you're invoking contrarianism as a standard is to limit that wizard's ability to counter your narrative, so he's entirely justified in using that as a tool of resistance. It could be argued each of your posts are contrarian to the board's culture and identity, which is why you're encountering opposition from this community with every post.

It's also ironic that you demand empathy and compassion from people while being massively condescending to them.

 No.179048

>>179044
Maybe because you don't realize that the everyday life of a nigger isn't an episode of MTV's Pimp My Ride?

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>>179043
Rejection of mainstream thought and behaviour is the reason we are here. Because that is why and how you become an outcast in the first place. Thereafter is a given that normalgroid way of thinking will be rejected when encountered. How >>179047 said.
You could have a point if you just were defending something and it was said that the thing is bad because many people knows it, which is indeed a bad way of thinking.

However this is clearly not the case. You're bringing up and trying to defend the talking points of mainstream society and media, who is against anyone who doesn't "conform" to the norm. That is enough for warrant rejection. But just because is fun, let's engange the rest of what you said.

Any of those groups that the mainstream society brags about every day defending them are not outcast. In fact these groups not only enjoy widespread acceptance into society, many of them already have many priviligies and comfort, everyone is telling them all the time they're victims and they deserve better, they get many things that go in the range from psycological support to material one easily handed to them, and their faults are and will be overlooked or minimized a lot of the time, they also get cherished from the top of the top of society, that is megacorps and politicians.
While you will get ostractized just for existing and being you, and not precily now, you got it very early in your life when society noted that you were "abnormal", which is a thing that happens usually when you're in school age. From that moment you learn to surround yourself with those that are like you and share your tastes. These groups you mention in the recent years had also got out of their way to antagonize things outcast like or enjoy, which is also something that contributes to the push back that is going.

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>>179048
Yeah it's an episode of gang wars: oakland

 No.179053

IMO chuds/polcucks are the antithesis of wizards. Their situation may coincidentally overlap with wizards (social rejection, normgroid hate, etc) but they are the complete opposite of a wiz

First about they're for the most part crabs, which means they DO want pussy and care about succubi. Their will is submitted to the vagina and therefore they're weak

Second, they want to be part of the groid society, they're obsessed with white chads and stuff like that because they want to be that, probably also linked to pussy glorification like in the previous point. Us wizards either don't care or "follow" a trend on the outside to avoid drawing attention from groids, like if you must work by force and have to wear a suit. We don't care about stuff that, we're forced to do so or do it for any other reason but pussy or society

Third, despite how much this word triggers people, they are actual losers. Why a chud is a loser but a wizard isn't? The chud is playing the game and so a loss counts for him. A wizard doesn't plays, you can't lose when you're not playing to begin with. If you take the word loser personally then maybe you're a crab, not a wiz

And forth, why should a wizard even care seriously about race, politics or shit like that which is society related? Society rejected us. Why should we care about society? Idgaf if a groid gets stabbed on the street. They won't give a fuck about us, why would we do? Altright faggots are obsessed with a society that also hates and rejects them. And before they blame le boogeyman for brainwashing society, well, if groids are so easily brainwashed then there's no order to fight for. It means that the idealized past society they glorify so much was a fragile and fake thing destined to disappear

tl;dr

Alt/righters/polturds/chuds/whatever are genuine losers and below wizards in any way because they are pussy worshiping crabs

 No.179054

>>178976
the tv is always on at my house with axn on because reasons and every series has white MC and the protagonists are mostly white. even that hawaii 5-0 series have two white men as MC despite everybody else being asian or narive. I don't live in USA btw

 No.179055

>>179053
>Us wizards
>they are actual losers.
>losers and below wizards
Wizchan 2021. You will never be a wizard.

 No.179056

>>179055
nice use of /pol/ language, jimbo

 No.179057

>>179056
Sounds like someone has /pol/ living in their head rent free.

 No.179058

>>178941
There are so many "alt-right" kids these days, most likely they are just acting this way to go against their suburban liberal parents, classic teen angst. There isn't really anything wrong with being upset at blatant pandering to SJW shit but it's really just nothing, you have no influence over what the current liberal status quo is doing.

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 No.179062

>>179055
Based.
>>179053
>why should a wizard even care seriously about race, politics or shit like that which is society related?

Politics is present on imageboards too, for example, if you're a nigger loving faggot pro LGTAIDS you will allow nigger loving faggots, and degenerates which aren't wizards on Wizchan, as we currently do.
Have a good day.

 No.179063

>>179062
>Based.
please go back to your shit website and don't bring your cancer here

 No.179075

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Inncels are male virgins that are introverted, asocial, nerd, autistic, ugly, outcasts, rejects, misanthropes, victims of bullies, and are hated by females and normalfags.
So it's easier to attack the alt right by saying it's a group composed predominantly of white supremacists, racist, or misogynistic inncels.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/04/30/feminists-were-right-ignoring-online-misogyny-has-deadly-consequences/
https://www.vox.com/culture/2016/12/14/13576192/alt-right-sexism-recruitment
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-25/crab-alt-right-mens-movement-masculanism-proudboys-milo/10482032
https://qz.com/1092037/the-alt-right-is-creating-its-own-dialect-heres-a-complete-guide/
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/alt-right-fueled-toxic-masculinity-vice-versa-ncna989031

It's a type of adhom, guilt by association. That's normalfag reasoning for you, if you argued with a normalfag that knew you're a virgin it's likely he'd just say "no, you're an inncel, what do you know, you've never had sex", "you don't even have friends what do you know", or similar.
Soon you will not be able to call females succubi online because it'd be considered hate speech and wizards will be sent to jail for it lol, they will censor anything that comes as "mysoginistic", so beware of that wizards. Don't call females bad names it causes mass shootings kek.

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>>179053
I agree with you on the first part though I would say wizards can be tcrabs, not everyone can be a stoic volcel larper who ignores his monkey lizard brain urges so easily so I have sympathy for these types, I think it depends on their attitude though and /pol/ kiddies have got it twisted - they acknowledge something is wrong but their attention is placed in the wrong direction, eg da jews, identity politics or falling for dumb right wing tradcon jordan peterson memes. I find your use of the word chud especially poor as it's just another anti male slur that's used against low status groups like wizards, though crab is the same at least here it's used with its actual meaning and not just to discredit an opinion because of being a perceived loser.

I disagree with your last paragraph, I only care about /pol/itical shit in so far as it affects/ruins my hobbies, but unfortunately it has done to a pretty significant extent. Video games have already been tainted by feminist cunts and their male serfs, anime is starting to go down that route - in this respect wizards should care because escapism into hobbies like games/anime often to an obsessive extent is something we enjoy (sometimes the only things we can enjoy). The attack on male spaces and hobbies is a serious threat to outcasts and wizard types. It goes without saying the "go woke go broke" crowd of aforementioned types are idiots who circlejerk about "soywars" then go stream the mandalorian on disney+ in between spewing stoic crap about muh good times create muh weak men and how awful it is their succubi have been so tragically "brainwashed" (when really they're acting on their own freewill), but this doesn't change anything about what I was saying. The degradation and infiltration of "geek" culture by pozzed normaltrons is real and will only get worse as any pushback immediately flags you as an "alt right tcrab chud" who's simply upset because of da black pewple, effectively someone a bit like the op or your average person on the street who only enjoys media at an entry level and who lacks any nuance, who would be one of the first people to say to you "why do you care lol".

 No.179086

>>179075
So men who hate succubi aka misogynists are killing random succubi in the streets and your response to this is to try and claim victimhood and persecution for not being allowed to say insulting and degrading things to succubi without reproach. This is why people think you're faggots.

 No.179093

>>179075
I've always wondered why the government doesn't just offer male virgins an option for euthanasia. If society really doesn't like us and would rather see us dead, then what sense does it make to keep us alive? The same concept also applies to any other outcast. The only argument against euthanasia I've read so far seems to be related to fewer worker drones that can be taken advantage of. But this doesn't make sense because a large portion of outcasts don't even have jobs, they just live on the edge of society with the help of neetbux, or they leech off family. Basically their lives are subsidized in some way even though they may never contribute to society in a meaningful way. Even homeless single men with no kids can qualify for disability payments, low cost healthcare and food benefits in the US. It's just something to think about.

 No.179094

>>179093
it's mostly the lingering influence of Christianity, it will disappear when the Christfags fully die out in the West

 No.179095

>>179086
>men who hate succubi aka misogynists are killing random succubi in the streets
This is a good thing

 No.179099

>>179095
Doing god's work honestly.

 No.179104

>>179086
>men who hate succubi aka misogynists are killing random succubi in the streets
literally not happening you schizo freak

 No.179114

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/pol/cucks are wannabe normalfags. Anyone who encourages /pol/-like views here should go fuck off. Collectivism is our natural enemy. We are outsiders and loners. Any ideology that is pro-society/collectivism instead of pro-individualism is anti-wizardly. The only wizardly politicial opinion is anarchism. I don't want to belong to any bigger machine, whether it is communist or liberal or fascist society. A world of anarchy where we can form our wiz-communes or just try to survive on our own would be much more to our tastes than this fake, hypocrite society with its meme-ranks, meme-hierarchies, meme-laws and meme-traditions. Civilization and society as we know it was a mistake. It tries to dehumanize us as much as it can. You are born, you get immediately considered as a member of society. Nobody asks you whether you accept society and its laws and its customs, no, you are a member by default! You will be required to spend the years you are most vulnerable mentally in a brainwashing institution (school) where they try to intidimate you and to control you to grow up to be a decent, working citizen who will make more useful slaves by procreating. This is civilized life in a nutshell: be born, go to school, then become a working machine who slaves away for his whole life for nothing and then die. No wonder there are so many depressed people nowadays. We aren't supposed to be working drones. We should look for guidance to our brothers and sisters, the animals: do they work all day? No. They go and get food for themselves and what they need and that's it, they spend the rest of their time playing around and enjoying themselves. Our society is corrupt and is based on rotten grounds, it is made for the benefit of few and the exploitation of the many. /pol/cucks want to preserve a culture and society that isn't worth defending. What did I ever get from society? My family keeps me alive because there is no bux here where I live. Fuck people. This many people can't live together peacefully and justly, the best we can do is gather some people together whom we like and create a community with them. I want a world of warring tribes, sects, parties. A colorful and dynamic world. A free world. Where you only team with others because it is for your own benefit and not for the sake of some shitty normalfag ideal like nation or the working people. A world where the state doesn't take what you have on the excuse of "taxes". (Who the fuck ever benefited from taxes? Certainly not me. The roads are shit-tier, the hospitals are shit-tier also where I live and the state is busy building cultural buildings and sport centers. Fucking ridiculous.)
If you are here on this site then you are probably more of an anarchist than most normals out there who roleplay as anarchists. You most likely reject normalfag authority and values and you are right to do so. We are the type of person who can't co-exist in big society. We don't want to live like others. We are the last remnants of the romantic movement, the passionate ones who don't let reason lead their lives. Normals are the ones who are overly rational and always act deliberately based on what they will gain in the future. It is a misconception to label normals as passionate people since they lack feelings, at least original feelings, passions and ambitions. We are the last sort of irrational people in this overly-rationalized world where everything has to have its place in the grand order of things and everyone has to be a useful citizen in order to be allowed to live. We are the rebels, outlaws, outcasts, outsiders. We are the true troublemakers, not criminals. Criminals are dumb and mostly end up in prison. We on the other hand are intellectuals who want to turn society upside-down and the elite is deathly afraid of us because of this. In a revolution we will be playing the main role, mark my words wizards. We are the errors in the system and we will bring down this whole machine.
And lastly, about race-baiting. I feel more sympathy for a black pimp who never worked a single day in his life than for a white model citizen, mr.normalfag who has a wife and children and is a diligent worker/slave. If I was forced to become a normalfag then I would live like the pimp. Seriously, fuck this traditional bullshit about slaving away your whole life for the sake of God/society/nation/the elite or whatever. Live egoistically, for yourself. Or don't live at all.

 No.179115

I hate everyone, left or right, but give that nowadays being even a centrist is socially unacceptable it's perfectly natural to me that the left is hated so much more in anonymous internet circles.

 No.179116

>>179055
You sound like a transvestite or fag

 No.179117

>>179116
Wizard masculinity is an oxymoron.

 No.179119

>>179117
Since when was being a tranny or masculine a binary choice?

 No.179120

>>179117
Shut up faggot.

 No.179121

>>179116
>You sound like a transvestite or fag
What?

 No.179122

>>179086
>So men who hate succubi aka misogynists are killing random succubi in the streets and your response to this is to try and claim victimhood

No, you dumb nigger. Feminist succubi with the help of the media are the ones claiming victimhood to feel more justified in their hatred towards males and male virgins or anyone who deviates from their political views. For example, Elliot Rodger killed more males than succubi, so then why are the killings described as misogynist terrorism?
>The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism at the Hague has described the killings as an act of misogynist terrorism

That Alek Minassian retard killed men too, and the reason was unspecified but it's been classified as misogynist terrorism
>The attack is characterized as misogynist terrorism because it was motivated by revenge for perceived sexual and social rejection by succubi. Minassian described himself as a crab, though the judge later concluded that Minassian had lied to police about the crab movement being a primary motivation, and was instead mainly seeking notoriety

They're using it to push their feminist agenda and to limit freedom of speech.

 No.179148

>>179114
>/pol/cucks are wannabe normalfags. Anyone who encourages /pol/-like views here should go fuck off
I don't think not wanting to live in a third-world country is exclusive to normalfags. And a third-world country is what your country will become if it imports low-IQ people from the third world non-stop. And once it reaches that point, you will no longer have the luxury to whine about normalfags on the internet. I don't think being against such a thing is being pro-collectivism per se.

 No.179150

>>179148
>I don't think not wanting to live in a third-world country is exclusive to normalfags.
Not him but you're assuming that anarchism = third world and also that security = civilization. There are third world countries like Uzbekistan where life is infinitely more relaxed than in Japan or Switzerland

 No.179152

>>179148
you didn't refute shit, just repeated pol garbage like the robots you are

 No.179163

The amount of people who are taking this bait is mind-boggling.

 No.179167

>>179148
I certainly don't receive most of the benefits that comes with living in a civilized country. And probably you don't, either. The upper classes and the richest people hold most of the resources in civilized societies. As an average joe you need to work like a dog in order to even survive. You are cucking yourself out to politicians, bankers, the "intellectual" elite and so on. You are more likely to die and suffer because of poverty than because of migrants, especially if you post here. But if you like to live this "life", the civilized life, the life of a worker bee then you are free to do it. But don't get in the way of those of us who aren't content with the piece of shit society gives to us. We want to break out and crush a system that doesn't benefit us in many ways while it keeps demanding and demanding stuff from us.

 No.179168

>>179167
>You are more likely to die and suffer because of poverty than because of migrants
You are under the delusion that poverty and immigrants are entirely unrelated things. Even if you completely ignore race, what kind of economic status do you think most immigrants possess?

sage because fuck everything about this thread

 No.179169

>>178941
If we had a eugenics program and all deffective life was extinguished human suffering would be drastically reduced. Dysgenics is the decay responsible for the suffering of soicially outcasted hereditary deffectives. Eugenics would prevent such suffering from coming into conception in future, don't care if I have to die, it just needs to happen.

 No.179173

>>179167
Good post. The typical modern rightwinger seems to have this strange contradiction in his thinking where he condemns the "low IQ third-worlders" supposedly degrading the very civilisation that he despises, since it generates the evils he laments - cultural corruption, sexual excesses, the domination of all life by oligarchs, low fertility rates, low levels of freedom, wageslavery, high degree of social atomisation, absence of worthwhile community and family life, no higher moral or social values, female enfranchisement, and one can go on.

Maybe there's more to learn from those "low IQ third-worlders" than he thinks. The final product of the white man's "high IQ" is looking increasingly like a horrorshow.

 No.179174

>>179169
Found the crab

 No.179175

>>179168
If you came directly from cuckchan at least try to be more subtle about it, /pol/lo

 No.179176

>>179175
>>179174
>hurr cuckchan crab
Great arguments, really showed them.

 No.179177

>>179176
>Hurr let the government kill me after being trounced my whole life

Sure thing champ

 No.179178

>>179177
>not wanting poor third worlders flooding your country= genocide an eugenics
Wow, very cool.

 No.179179

>>179176
Thanks for proving my point

 No.179180

I don't feel connected to losers.

 No.179182

I was heavy /pol/ user for years and years but now current events, news, etc. It all just bores me to tears. But to answer OP's question, politics is just glorified sports for outcasts/friendless people. They'd be better off not worrying about the weight of the world and taking it easu

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 No.179232

>>179180
Why are you here then?

 No.179295

>>179168
It isn't the fault of migrants the our culture is based on slavery. It wasn't migrants who came up with the idea of working people literally to death. And I most positively don't see migrants holding any significant amount of power or capital of any kind. If they are even accepted into a country then they will most likely end up working shit-tier jobs that most people avoid like plague or get on welfare if they can. They shouldn't be your main enemy and priority. It is the elite who fucks with us and wants to keep us from getting our hands on their property.

This thread is pretty cool, by the way. Finally someone dared to call out /pol/wizards on their shit. Wizardry and the far-right simply exclude each other.

>>179173
In my eyes society changed for the better over the centuries, even if slightly. I can't argue that we possess more freedom now than those who lived 100 years before us. But the the game is still rigged and it will be if we don't do something. Ultimately, that is your own that you get for yourself by power, not what is given to you. That is why our "rights" and freedom today is so fragile, these things rest on the goodwill of the elite only. There can come a person any day like Stalin or Hitler who ends up deciding that useless males who don't work should be spent to concentration camps or prisons or to the army. It is very scary if you think about it, that your life depends on some rich fuckers and sociopaths who are ready to sacrifice everyone to further their own gain a little.

>>179169
>he supports /pol/-like ideologies because he wants to be gassed by normals
Fuck off. You are beyond pathetic. Wizardry is a gift, not a curse. If you can't understand why being an outsider is superior to being a normal then you don't belong here.

 No.179301

Fat gypsy succubi begging outside every single store are annoying.

 No.179303

I'm still waiting for OP or the people defending it to respond to >>179051 in which I recall that the oucast of society has nothing to do with those mainstream sects that already have a lot of approval.

 No.179306

It's amazing how many wizards get sucked into far-right ideology when they're the exact same sort of failures that would be sent to the camps under a fascist regime. Myself included.

Not to mention, how they seem to utterly despise people who actually advocate increased mental health care and social programs (e.g. autismbux) because they also advocate for groups like Black and trans people.

They seriously think that powerless minorities are the threat to their way of life and not the elites sucking the wealth from the working class.

 No.179307

>>179306
>It's amazing how many wizards get sucked into far-right ideology
What like all 3 idiots who post recycled /pol/ shit in the political thread?

The vast majority of users on this site doesn't even like discussing political shit and sure as hell not far right.

 No.179309

>>179306
Why should I worship violent criminals like BLM do or support making children trans just because I live on autismbux?

 No.179311

>>179306
I highly doubt the left gives a fuck about the mentally ill. They only want to help those who they believe need it, not those who really need it. You know the libs will screw over autists like myself if it means their core base is satisfied.
Whereas the right believes that everyone deserves a chance at life and are more likely to help the poor because that's what God teaches them to do.

 No.179312

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>>179306
Blacks (bantu especially) are overwhelmingly violent monsters. Look up "Bantu expansion". The Bantu spread across Africa and genocided or enslaved every single other group of hominids they encountered, and now here in the western world all they do is commit crime

The media depicting blacks as victims and heroes is a direct inversion of the natural order- which is what the elites are all about. This is also why they're pushies trannies constantly on the world. What greater "fuck you" is there to a creator God, than taking a five year old boy, chopping his genitals off and making him think he's a succubus?

The rulers of the world are overwhelmingly Jewish, and the dominant school of thought among them is Sabbatean-Frankism. Frankist Jews believe the path to enlightenment comes from the direct violation of all societal taboos, violating all forms of morality. Historically they raped and sacrificed children and all sorts of evils, and it continues to this day, such as on Epstein Island

 No.179314

>>179115
I find left wingers more bearable. They are atleast empathetic and inquisitive while right-wingers go out of their way not to be.

 No.179315

>>179314
In my experience only anti-woke leftists can be empathetic and they are the minority.

 No.179317

>>179314
Me too.

And to be honest, I got bored of seeing "librul esjaydubus bad" everywhere. Just like I got bored of "orange man bad" coming from liberals. I just generally despise NPC groupthink.

>>179315
I don't think it's as uncommon as you believe, but then again, I could just not be looking in the right places. I guess if you wanna use twitter to represent leftists, the anti-woke ones are in the minority. But I don't really know how representative twitter is of anything.

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>>179315
"empathy" = pity

woke leftists won't pity you because you're a white male and that is sinful

unwoke leftists can pity you because they pity everyone because pity is the very basis of their philosophy

 No.179321

>>178984
Asian men are gay for white chad protagonists

 No.179322

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wizards come in all races, it's not isolated to just one race. In regards to OP those aren't wizards, those are normies pretending and superheroes don't have to be just white. It's just normies trying to agitate everyone. That's the way I see it

 No.179323

>>179320
compassion is a fine moral value

 No.179324

>>179323
Nothing moral about it. It is a survival mechanism. If biology is moral, then killing all men and raping all succubi from another tribe is a moral thing to do, which makes morality non-existant.

 No.179326

>>179324
>It is a survival mechanism
Only to a limited extent. Compassion for my fellow tribe members will be reflected to me. However moving insects from the path of my lawnmower has no biological purpose or function. Perhaps compassion evolved as a survival mechanism but it has grown beyond mere survival enhancement in a part of humanity
>If biology is moral
False premise. Biology =/= Morality

 No.179327

>>179326
It has the purpose of serving you a dosage of dopamine into your brain. You feel good when you are being 'moral', and feel bad when you are 'immoral'.
Everything is rooted in biology, in this case, it is a way you were conditioned to behave by others.

 No.179340

>>179327
What's the biological basis of religious, moral celibacy then? The Christian Bible recommends remaining celibate like Christ, and only getting married if one is too weak for celibacy. Buddhism and a number of Hindu sects also teach that celibacy is superior to reproduction. Celibacy isn't pleasant, it doesn't give the brain a dopamine hit like sex would, nor does it further one's DNA in the world, in fact it's a great hindrance that's removed a number of our greatest (Christ, the Buddha, Tesla) from the gene pool

 No.179344

>>179340
It's to weed out the unfit. Same as the infertile or those who die before reaching breeding age.

 No.179367

>>179344
This whole reductionist viewpoint does not make much sense, and the fact that the biological justification keeps jumping from survival, to hedonistic pleasure, to now being some kind of mysterious process that weeds out the 'unfit' shows this. Human moralities and ideas are far too varied to be put in a ridiculous box like this. If human ideas, no matter how apparently genuine, are just the result of mysterious ways in which 'biology' is promoting some ultimate end, it's not even clear how whatever you're saying (or what anyone is saying) has any meaning. This kind of thinking just leads to nihilistic nonsense.

It is a simpler and more sensible explanation to see morality as being at least partially genuine and, sure, often interacting with 'biology', but not entirely reducible to any single biological end.

 No.179368

>>178941
In my shitty latin american country the opposite happens, every single commercial/TV Show or other media features white people even when only like 15% of the population is actually white and not mestizo/brown.

All LATAM countries are like this, very racist against their own people, they worship white people while hiding their brown-ness.

 No.179369

>>179311
>Whereas the right believes that everyone deserves a chance at life and are more likely to help the poor because that's what God teaches them to do.

No, the right believes that everyone should work and contribute to society and have children, if you don't do those things you're a burden that should be given absolutely no help (in the best case) or exterminated (in the worst).

I can't really see how an actual wizard would support any rightist ideology, the right is the completely opposite of what wizards stand for, I don't like the tranny/gay left of the US, but certainly is thanks to the left that we have things like NEETbux.

 No.179371

I hate libtards and uphold the Juche idea.

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>>179320
Pity is a natural feeling that most healthy persons feel. I say this as someone who would gladly murder most of the human population, even I feel pity, mostly towards animals. I would happily axe a human being in the head yet I don't think I would be capable of hurting animals that mean no harm to me. Nietzsche hated pity because it leads to melancholy and depression if you indulge in it too much.

>>179326
There is no guarantee you will get pity in return, this is the biggest fault in the whole thing. There are countless examples in history that show us how pity and mercy can fuck you up. It really isn't worth it to trust yourself to the goodwill of others.

>>179340
Didn't Gautama reproduce before he went full Buddha? Maybe I am mistaken.
I don't know about biological basis (I don't buy the whole we are only biological machines argument anyway) but some religions demand celibacy because they don't want church-property to be inherited by descendants of the members. And because having a wife and kids takes away your time and energy. Being a single man is preferable even nowadays in the eyes of employers.

>>179311
>>179312
>religionfag
Please, stop. Religion is for normalfags. If you want something to satisfy your spiritual needs then be a satanist or occultist. Both the classical pagans and christians are very normalfag-like, the most wizardly parts of these cultures were the Dionysus-cult of antiquity and the witches, wizards, warlocks and other eso and occult heretics in the time of Christianity. Mainstream religion is always oriented towards the masses.
>Frankist Jews believe the path to enlightenment comes from the direct violation of all societal taboos, violating all forms of morality. Historically they raped and sacrificed children and all sorts of evils
Good for them. If only it was true, though. I would convert to judaism right away and join the synagogue of Satan.
And God and Jesus suck ass. Jesus may have been a virgin but he was the friend of normals. Satan is the friend and role model of the wizard.

 No.179381

>>179379
what a fucking pseud phony get off this board edgelord wannabe

"and God and Jesus suck ass." - normie level post, cba to break down how stupid it is to the stupider wizards here, just leave and dont come back

 No.179382

>>179379
>And God and Jesus suck ass. Jesus may have been a virgin but he was the friend of normals.
Jesus literally made friends with outcasts and didn't judge them unlike everyone else around them. He was a ray of sunshine for the downtrodden. What are you even going on about?

 No.179385

>>179369
You’re creating a strawman. The left wants you to have children (“have sex crab”), the left wants you to “contribute to society” and actively seeks to arrest wizzes for being “potential dangers to the community”. The left is OBSESSED with forcing everybody get permission from everyone else around them to do basic things. Then you take things that NORMIES on both the right and the left think (you shouldnt get help, you should be punished, etc) and applying it to only conservatives. Then you’re bringing up “neetbux”, which dont really exist for people other than females, and is a common ploy by the left to get you to go along with them.

You’re all over the place with your strawmanning. Normies on both camps have the same beliefs about wizards. It’s not a political thing like you’re making it out to be. It’s a normie thing.

 No.179386

>>179379
Edgy as fuck.

>satanism

You mean the pseudo religion that worships succubi and promotes orgies?

Yeah, very wizardly.

 No.179388

>>179386
>You mean the pseudo religion that worships succubi and promotes orgies?
no hes talking about the one that promotes moral relativism, extreme self-preservation, eugenics, and social darwinism. calling it a "pseudo religion" is underplaying the grip that satanism has on society. it has nothing to do with worshiping demons or sacrificing people during sex rituals and if you think that youve been successfully propagandized.

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>>179379
>Didn't Gautama reproduce before he went full Buddha?
He was married and left behind a wife who later bore his child after he was already gone. The Buddha then became enlightened in the forest and returned many years later. His son became a celibate monk as well
>some religions demand celibacy because they don't want church-property to be inherited by descendants of the members
This is true about some modern religious institutions. In Japan at one point in time Buddhism was becoming so powerful that it was threatening the empire, and so the emperor issued a law forbidding celibacy and made all the Buddhist monks in the land get married. This destroyed the strength of the Buddhist institution there because suddenly all of the monks had children and families to pass their wealth on to

>Satan is the friend and role model of the wizard

Are you speaking about Lucifer? Satan is just the English form of a Hebrew word that means "adversary" and there are many satans. Lucifer on the other hand was once "the most beautiful of all angels", aka an absolute turbo-chad and he was cast down from heaven after a war where he attempted to overthrow Yahweh. In the church I was raised in supposedly Lucifer wanted to force goodness onto the universe rather than follow Yahweh's plan of giving mankind free-will. None of this makes any theological sense however

So either you're worshiping a turbochad that got his ass kicked and is suffering in hell now, or you're worshiping some form of malicious spirit that probably views you as a tiger does a antelope

It's also possible that Lucifer redeemed himself in the eyes of Yahweh and is now restored to his former glory, existing currently as Melek Taus

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>>179381
>>179386
"Edgy" is literal normtier buzzword. Anything that doesn't sit well with mainstream thinking and morals is called as edgy nowadays, whatever this word even means. This is a convenient way to evade serious discussions without having to actually engage in discussion with the person in question.
>pseudo religion that worships succubi and promotes orgies
It promotes doing whatever the fuck you want. Crowley said "Do what thou wilt" - this is the only law. I don't know what you mean about worshipping succubi when catholics do this to a much greater extent and lots of other pagan or hindu religions practice this even today. Satanism is about worshipping yourself and making yourself into a god. Sure a lot more wizardly than accepting some normalfag or pussy like Buddha or Jesus as your saviour or as your spiritual guide. Satanism is the ideal spiritual source for us solitary hermits and loners. All versions of religion are about communities and churches and belonging to the "grand order" of things while the left-hand path is about separating yourself from others as much as you can and deifying your individual self. Social misfits like us don't have any place in the kingdom of God or any kind of heaven. Negative mysticism, in opposition to positive mysticism (like mainstream religions), strives to view things in their individual self and alone. Positive mysticism wants to do away with the concept of self, the I, and blur everyone and everything together under some shady definition of god or god's creation. You really don't see how dangerous this line of thinking is to us, who have always been different from others?
As for succubies, I probably hate them more than anyone here. Yet we can learn lots of things from them. Females by nature are more egoistic, amoral and instinct driven than males generally. Males usually end up getting brainwashed into classical morals and tend to uphold social rules and strict laws. In this respect, succubi deserve more respect because they live true to their desires.

>>179382
Except that he doesn't accept no as an answer. You are either his "friend" and follow his shitty rules and laws (which are essentially about being useful to the community) or you go to hell. He is no different from any other tyrant. He demands strict self-denial and that you should suffer in this world - that he created in the first place? - because….because. And no, Jesus didn't actually befriend outcasts. Lepers and the sick he cured were normals too, the actual outcasts he encountered, those possessed by demons, he made them into normalfags by "curing" them.

>>179388
This is pretty much right except for eugenics, in my opinion the right-hand side is more about eugenics than satanists have ever been. Nazi Germany, the spiritual successor of classical paganism and medieval christianity was obsessed with eugenics because it wanted to get rid of anyone who was unable to contribute to the community. This is utilitarianism at its finest. Also, ancient Sparta did the same thing. The right-hand path is an elitist circlejerk that wants to get rid of "mistakes" and "monsters", in short everyone who doesn't fit into their ideal version of society. You can see this in the case of monotheism too. It wasn't the pagans of the middle east who massacred countless people because they had different religious ideas, it was the jews who followed the one true god, who is ultimately the demiurge and the creator, the tyrant of tyrants.
I reject every authority, dogmas, laws and morals. Just like I reject all kind of communities.

>>179389
>lucifer and satan
I'm not a luciferian, simply because I don't like the impliciation that the devil wanted to benefit others and that he was a noble, moral rebel like Prometheus. This interpretation is still based on the ground of morality, it just reverses the roles of God and the devil. No. I am a satanist in the sense the witches and warlocks were under the christian reign in the middle ages. I am a satanist in the sense that I prefer the dark side of paganism compared to the light side that was and still is mainstream. The human sacrifices, the shady underground rituals, the breaking of most taboos and morals and laws - this is what I like when I talk about satanism. Satanism completely captures the essence of rebellion, anarchy. Not wanting to fit into the divine order God made, who at the end of the day is responsible for every shit we suffer through anyway, not accepting the authority of anyone above me, this is satanism to me. I'm a classical satanist, so to speak. I don't like these new interpretations that want to portray the devil as some light-bringing hero, in my eyes he is the original selfish, egoistical warrior who wasn't satisfied with his place in the system. The devil is selfish, cruel, yet he is also free and caused freedom/individuality (sin) to exist in this world. God, the angels or the fatherly, "benevolent" gods of paganism gave the people nothing but laws, burdens and tyrants. The devil, the demons and the ancient pagan gods like the titans or asuras or giants taught individuals how to gain more power and freedom, how to strive for more and more. For me, it is a simple discussion. Do you want a peaceful world where suffering is reduced as much as possible but people are no more than slaves, drones or robots who follow the same uniform morals, ideas? A world where utility is everything, how useful you are to the system measures your worth? I certainly don't. I like Satan's alternative better: a world of freedom, anarchy where you are free to get what you want for yourself if you have the power to get it. A world of individuals, loners and misfits. A world where the lone wolves rule and devour the sheep as they please. A world where I can finally live out my desires, passions and feelings. I'm sick of morals, logic, rational thinking, laws, all this crap. I just want to let myself go, you know? None of this civilized, humanistic bullshit, returning to the instinct driven animals and demons we are. It boils down to: utilitarianism vs social darwinism at the end of the day and I will always pick social darwinism.
>you're worshiping some form of malicious spirit that probably views you as a tiger does a antelope
Most definitely but he is at least honest about this, unlike God. God only values you as long as you do his will and represent his values. He wants you to completely deny your feelings and desires, he is much more horrible than the devil. God is a tyrant who gets rid of everyone and everything that thinks differently, anyone who could "disturb social harmony". What crap. The devil on the other hand values power above everything, he gives us the power God denies from us and helps to liberate us. Read the beginning of genesis: God gets pissed whenever the humans strive for greatness and destroys humanity every time they come to rival his might. What a hypocrite.

 No.179405

>>179388
>Satanism
>eugenics
I thought satanists like trannies and faggots? How the fuck is that eugenic, eugenics would be only allowing 6'2 smart musclemen into your group/to breed, a lot of these "satanists' I see online are pretty shit genetically

 No.179406

>>179405
I stand corrected >>179379
>I would happily axe a human being in the head yet I don't think I would be capable of hurting animals that mean no harm to me.
Fucking tranny, I would happily skin a cow alive than punch a human in the face (unless they personally had done me wrong or are a rapist/serial killer/shooter/etc)

 No.179407

>>179406
Humans always deserve it, animals don’t.

 No.179408

>>179405
>>179406
I think he refers to survival of the fittest as eugenics. But organized eugenics is the thing of classical moralists, those "heroes" and whiteknights who want society to be as strong and stable as possible.

>tranny

>I would happily skin a cow alive than punch a human in the face
Give me a break, normo. Get back to reading your precious Bible and obeying the morals of the majority. By the way, your precious human friends would gas you happily any minute if they could get away with it. If you post here you are an outsider. Don't whiteknight for a society that hates you, it makes you very pathetic.

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>>179404
>Do you want a peaceful world where suffering is reduced as much as possible but people are no more than slaves, drones or robots who follow the same uniform morals, ideas?
>I like Satan's alternative better: a world of freedom, anarchy where you are free to get what you want for yourself if you have the power to get it. A world of individuals, loners and misfits. A world where the lone wolves rule and devour the sheep as they please
i couldnt help but burst out laughing reading this, your lack of self-awareness is comedic. your perception of reality is so twisted youve managed to do a 180 but you seem serious about it. the world you described initially is reminds me of hitlers germany, a society where human life means nothing and everyone submits to the collective. if you need any clarification, this society was satanic to the extreme, it is the ultimate master/slave or wolf/sheep dynamic. just because you dont get to be on the top having all the fun doesnt mean its not satanic, youre just experiencing the other end of your own ideology. and your perception of "satans alternative", a world without morals, is exactly what will lead to this extreme domination of the majority of people by the few. notice how i didnt say a world in anarchy, but a world without morals, because a world without morals will ALWAYS 100% of the time lead to people controlling others through the most inhumane systems imaginable. a world with morals will by definition bring anarchy because if you recognize the worth of a human being and understand you do not own other people, YOU WOULDNT CONTROL OTHER PEOPLE. you cannot have anarchy without morals it is an impossibility in the universe. so maybe you just want to ditch the satanism thing and actually start working towards a free world or maybe youll realize that were already in a satanic society and youre just on the bottom.

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>>179404
>I am a satanist in the sense that I prefer the dark side of paganism compared to the light side that was and still is mainstream. The human sacrifices, the shady underground rituals, the breaking of most taboos and morals and laws - this is what I like when I talk about satanism
You're posting Crowley and speaking about him a lot. That isn't Satanism. Crowley created Thelema. I can see how they'd be mixed up by normalfags, but they're different at the root because he's working with various pagan deities (usually Egyptian) and not the Abrahamic Lucifer

>Not wanting to fit into the divine order God made, who at the end of the day is responsible for every shit we suffer through anyway, not accepting the authority of anyone above me, this is satanism to me

Ultimately there's not a blade of grass that moves without the will of the Lord. The infinite nameless God is responsible for the motion of every single atom in the universe, and responsible for the actions of yourself, myself, Yahweh and Lucifer. To reject the natural order of the universe (dharma) is to reject health, happiness and prosperity

>The devil is selfish, cruel, yet he is also free and caused freedom/individuality (sin) to exist in this world

There's no such thing as free will or individuality. Your current persona is an ephemeral ship of Theseus, as is your body

>The devil, the demons and the ancient pagan gods like the titans or asuras or giants taught individuals how to gain more power and freedom, how to strive for more and more

Desire is infinite. One desire leads to another endlessly. Rather than chase desire endlessly like a mindless animal it makes more sense to extinguish the root of desire directly

>I like Satan's alternative better: a world of freedom, anarchy where you are free to get what you want for yourself if you have the power to get it. A world of individuals, loners and misfits. A world where the lone wolves rule and devour the sheep as they please

That's pretty much exactly what we have right now. There are no laws if you have enough money or you're on the correct team. Laws only apply in the USA to the poor and weak, and this is because the evil men in charge designed the system this way specifically. This guy here hit the nail on the head >>179415 when he said the world is already Satanic- you're just on the bottom

If you were an elite you'd be fucking lolis on Epstein Island with the Clintons. Because they're above the law and these demons created and control the current system

>God only values you as long as you do his will and represent his values. He wants you to completely deny your feelings and desires, he is much more horrible than the devil. God is a tyrant who gets rid of everyone and everything that thinks differently, anyone who could "disturb social harmony". What crap. The devil on the other hand values power above everything, he gives us the power God denies from us and helps to liberate us. Read the beginning of genesis: God gets pissed whenever the humans strive for greatness and destroys humanity every time they come to rival his might. What a hypocrite

You really should just reject Abrahamic, Christian theology entirely. It's not a very accurate system for interpreting the universe until you get really deep into esoteric forms. Better to just use a more accurate system

Religions are maps of territory beyond what the human mind can process, and the limited human mind interprets a small part of the infinite in symbols that it can understand. However the map is not the territory, and the menu is not the food. Ultimately no religion is true, however the more accurate the religion the more precise the map will be, so it's more efficient to simply choose a more accurate religion to follow

 No.179451

>>179407
The only reason why humans are the way they are is because of how we evolved. Because of predators and poor vegetation humans evolved to be more selfish and evil so in a way you can say the only reason humans are flawed and evil is because of animals. You also forget the fact that animals commit a lot of horrible acts such as rape, torture, war to a certain extent and murder (Our evil nature didnt come from thin air, we got it from our animalistic ancestors), you only focus on the bad humans do due to the fact that you're a human yourself not a dumb animal. So no, animals arent always innocent since while dumb, you could argue they have a sense of morality as it is observed in species such as chimps and dolphins thus a rapist/murdering animal is just as evil as a murderous/rapist human, there is the also the fact that there are people who's suffering is out of their control and havent done anything bad (Aka a whole lot of people; What makes you think every human deserve it, do you think an abused, genetically ill child deserves what they get based on your imaginative scenario? If so you really are sick in the head and prove that you're just a dumb tranny who never knows how the real world works

>>179408
Not a christian or religious since any ruler of this world/universe is clearly uncaring and evil (yes even your satan you worship). Also, Survival of the fittest isnt really eugenics since contrary to popular belief it doesnt produce the strongest/fastest/smartest offspring, it only produces species that can reproduce faster before death, sure it can make you stronger or smarter but it can also make a species lazier and hornier two examples are bunnies (They arent that fast compared to other predators, they just reproduce a lot and thus their genes are spread further) and human succubi (they are on average weaker than human males because they were allowed to be lazy in tribes i.e not hunt or do physical work, this left the weaker succubi having as much kids as strong succubi whereas only strong men were able to have the most children due to the majority of men not being allowed to be lazy and not hunt), organised eugenics was only a thing done for less than 50 years and hasnt been revived or will be revived every since, modern society despises eugenics as that would mean the low-castes they hate would no longer exist and thus they would have no one to mock (which they hate)

 No.179452

>>179451
Also forgot to mention that, even when organised eugenics had been practiced, the ones in control didnt look for good quality such as intelligence or height/strength but rather "pureness" which is mostly retarded and doesnt help with a population

 No.179453

>>179451
>>179408
Yes I know a lot of people would betray me, but that's because they have your line of thinking (Animal good, human bad) and are practically satanists with the exception being that they dont know it and pretend to be good practicing christians

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>>179415
Hitler and Nazi Germany wasn't even close to satanism in the sense I use this word. At best paganism, but mostly it was paganism mixed with medieval christianity and the crusader mindset. There is a direct line you can follow through history starting from the big figures of antiquity like Alexander, Caesar and other emperors to the medieval christian kings/emperors and toward Hitler.
Hitler was a counter-revolutionary, someone who wanted to resurrect the apollonian side of western culture. The "sunny" side of paganism, the system of law and order. Nazi Germany is the perfect embodiment of classical pagan/medieval christianity taken to its logical conclusion. Despite what jews and conservatives tell you today he wasn't even near a satanist. The actual "people of the night", those who stood closest to Satan (outlaws, leeches, parasites, whores, beggars, wanderers, etc.) were persecuted with valiant forces under his reign. He was law, cleanliness, order incarnate. He was just another puppet of the demiurge like most authority figures. Honestly, if you were a white working-class man who just wanted to live a peaceful life and didn't mind contributing to the collective then Nazi Germany was the ideal place for you to live.
Because ultimately Hitler wasn't a satanic Übermensch, he represented the normalfag masses, the little people. His value system was extremely cliche and he just stole things all over from history and mixed them together. He was the last representative of classic Western culture, he was a romantic who wanted to protect and resurrect a culture that already didn't exist.
And let's not mention the fact that it was the masses actually who made sure he got to be in power, he was democratically elected. He wasn't a wolf, just a very loud and angry sheep.
I know I am on the bottom, I never argued otherwise. But in contrast to religions which teach you to accept your place in life and bear sufferings calmly, Satan gives us the power and will to struggle and fight for more power. In this system I may be on the bottom but different circumstances benefit different kinds of people. Anarchy would create a power vacuum and instability that could be used to gain more power. But you are wrong that we live in a satanic world: morals and rules are still pushed down our throats, it isn't exactly a god-fearing world either but certainly not the satanic Utopia I envison. Current systems across the world still praise and reward those who contribute to the community while persecuting the selfish, egoistic individuals. But maybe that is the fate of the children of Satan and Dionysus, to fall by the blade of St.Michael at the end and to be cast down into eternal darkness.

>>179421
I like some ideas of Crowley but I disagree with his obsession of eastern religions. Also, he was quite an idiot, he didn't realize the potential anarchy had for people like us and was instead interested in national socialism and communism. But people like him are always the first in those systems to die, he was lucky he was just thrown out of Italy by Mussolini. He was an egoistic and selfish individual who wasn't able to operate in conventional society but he never realized this. I like his thirst for adventure and living dangerously, though. He had an interesting life and wasn't afraid of breaking taboos so I respect him for this.
No, I don't believe in determinism and that self isn't a thing. This is why I hate eastern religions. They create weak slaves. They encourage giving up the struggle and fight and accepting your place in the universe, which really isn't that different from other religions. I'm not into this fatalistic line of thinking. And about individuality: how come you are here then if you aren't an individual? Why aren't you out there contributing to society like other people do and doing the things normal people generally do? I will never accept this positive mysticism that tries to blur the line between me and them.
Desire is infinite, indeed but this is a good thing. To desire and to covet is to live. You are lowering your own vitality by subscribing to these self-denying ideologies. You either don't know how to live or you are afraid of living. Desire and suffering make us into individuals, they taste like life and they are life essentially. I'm not afraid of myself or living life.
You confuse the elite abusing its power with satanism. This happens in literally all kinds of systems, even God himself is a vicious sociopath who abuses his power and tortures us day-by-day. The powers and authorities sedate the masses with morals though, even nowadays. If you talk about wanting to kill people or rob people normals will get into an autistic state and yell that you can't do it! because they are slaves. Most people are slave-material and they will always remain so. But those who have it in themselves to rebel and to fight should be allowed a chanche to prove themselves and anarchy would achieve this exactly.
Religions, whether abrahamic or not, provide insight into things. Eastern religions too have their own demiurges and evil gods who mask themselves as the benevolent saviors of mankind while they are the oppressors exactly.

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>>179454
>No, I don't believe in determinism and that self isn't a thing. This is why I hate eastern religions. They create weak slaves. They encourage giving up the struggle and fight and accepting your place in the universe
Parashurama is a Hindu saint and the first warrior-priest. He submitted himself to the will of God, and his role in life was to take an axe and go butcher every single false kshatriya in the land. His dharma was to literally hack people apart with an axe. True strength and health comes from alignment of one's will with the universal will

>And about individuality: how come you are here then if you aren't an individual? Why aren't you out there contributing to society like other people do and doing the things normal people generally do?

The mindbody is literally a microcosm of the entire universe. By properly aligning my mindbody I am contributing to the world. When one's mind is in order, the universe is in order. Also, there are 24 hours in a day and 7 days in a week. I don't sit on wizardchan 24/7

>Desire is infinite, indeed but this is a good thing. To desire and to covet is to live. You are lowering your own vitality by subscribing to these self-denying ideologies. You either don't know how to live or you are afraid of living. Desire and suffering make us into individuals, they taste like life and they are life essentially. I'm not afraid of myself or living life.

There's a story in the Puranas. The god Indra was cursed for some reason and his spirit was placed inside the body of a pig. At first he hated it, but as time went on he started to enjoy himself and soon enough he was lost in the world of a pig. He ate garbage, was covered in mud, rutting around fucking female pigs in the dirt and garbage, having a great time. Then one day another god saw Indra inside of this pig and the other god slew him with a bolt of lighting. Lord Indra exploded out of the pig's body and immediately realized just how incredibly low and disgusting he had been behaving. He's literally the king of the gods, yet he had lost himself in the lowly form of a pig

You yourself are literally a God. Not the ego you're currently identifying with, but the real you yet right now you're in the body of a pig and you're eating your own shit and trying to convince me it's fun and tasty. If the clouds of desire would ever part from your mind, you'd behold a glory so intense it would make you drop to your knees with tears streaming from your eyes, and you'd feel an ecstasy so great that you'd instantly understand all these material pleasures really are garbage by comparison

Wisdom is correct judgement- to abandon the false for the real- to release a small treasure in order to attain a greater one. One day all of your possessions, experiences and struggles will turn into ashes in your mouth, and then perhaps you'll finally be able to learn


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