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What are your opinions, Wizards? I'm not looking to start a fight between vaxxers and anti-vaxxers, but I'm interested if you're planning to get it, got it, only get it when they force you?
For now it's voluntary, but I suspect I'll be forced to get one as I work in a sector where it's "my way or highway" and this puts me in quite a pickle. I don't have a lot of trust to politicians, medicine as a whole, and I find it very troubling how strongly everyone is pushing for those.
I would like to delay it as long as I can.


I got it. Here's my story:
-I do regularly get other vaccinations, e.g., flu. My main reason for doing so is because I used to get pretty sick every year until I started getting the flu vaccines. This is a pretty personal reason to me why I kind of trust vaccines. Maybe it's just placebo, but it really did change my life quite a bit.
-I was still afraid of this vaccine, but my father and I have almost identical medical contraindictions. So, I told him that I was scared of it and I asked if he would take it ahead of me.
I just watched him to see what the hell would happen. He turned out fine, so I went ahead with it.
-In my case, I had no major symptoms other than getting super drowsy (Pfizer).

My main reason for getting it is that first bullet above. I don't give a shit about the political stuff, and I do think this covid shit is completely overblown. But I have had a good personal history with vaccination.


I will never get the vaccine, based on actual data provided by the WHO themselves there is no reason for me to ever get this vaccine. I wouldn't get a vaccine for a common flu, so why in gods name would I get it for this 99.7% chance of survival virus? That's being nice and not even taking into account the asymptomatic cases.

I don't plan on playing pretend pandemic with a bunch of moronic baboons who wear a mask at a restaurant till they are seated, and then spend an hour eating and spitting everywhere without the mask on. Society can get fucked, the normalcattle don't even bother thinking or fighting anything, the path of least resistance is all they think about. Even the people I know who said they wouldn't get it, all of them are bending their knees as soon as their work suggests so. These "people" are just slaves and cattle, they cannot be human, I refuse to think of myself as similar to them - we are unrelated.

Will I get the vaccine? When the military finally comes and injects it in me forcefully while I'm held down, then yea I'll get the vaccine I guess.


>-I do regularly get other vaccinations, e.g., flu. My main reason for doing so is because I used to get pretty sick every year until I started getting the flu vaccines. This is a pretty personal reason to me why I kind of trust vaccines. Maybe it's just placebo, but it really did change my life quite a bit.
No, I appreciate you adding this bit, I only know people that take them "just in case", so it's interesting to me.
>So, I told him that I was scared of it and I asked if he would take it ahead of me.
I just watched him to see what the hell would happen. He turned out fine, so I went ahead with it.
I actually have a pretty similiar condition, but my dad is a wild card and he'll probably become full anti-vaxx to the point of choosing to lose his job. I'll see if they really force him in about a month.
>-In my case, I had no major symptoms other than getting super drowsy (Pfizer).
I see. I think I would go with non-mRNA ones.


>all of them are bending their knees as soon as their work suggests so
I'm unfortunately most likely gonna become one of those people. I'm from a shithole, I own nothing, I only recently joined the workforce so I don't have a lot of savings, there's no neetbux or anything, and I doubt there's more workplaces than before. Not to mention I don't think I'd be much more likely to get away from vax.
Yes, I'm cattle, I never had a chance being born to a poor family in a shitty country.


I did a informal cost benefit analysis based on the data available and determined that the negligible benefit did not exceed the risk.
This was based on myself though and I crafted the risk profile accordingly.
To put it less autistically.

The risk of covid to me is low.
The data shows the vax probably doesn't even work as far as I can tell.
So for that reason alone it isn't worth the opportunity cost. But it isn't that reason alone. There are a number of other factors that have less hard data yet that I factored in. Such as the small but real risk of adverse effects.

There's also my suspicion of a more conspiratorial nature but I don't actually have any hard facts to support it so I mostly left it out of the equation.

Lastly due to the nature of my job if I would have got it by now if I was going to get it.
Hell, might have had it but it was so mild I confused it for my allergies acting up or a cold.

Anyway I have no plans to take it.
It doesn't make rational sense for me as a individual to take it.


If you're a wagecuck, you will be forced to get it eventually. I don't see how any of this matters. Join the legion or be left behind. Alternatively, live off the grid and fend for yourself.


My parents got the vaccine, they're fine. My sister got Covid a couple months ago, felt a little sick for a week and is also fine. I don't mind the vaccine itself but since you have to leave the house to get it I won't.


I won’t get it because I never really leave the house and all the adverse reactions that could happen make me scared, I’ll wait until maybe a better vaccine comes out or something


Its the Mark if the Beast. They'll have to kill me first


not if you're remote wagie master race


Both my mom and my dad got vaccinated with Pfizer. They want me to get vaccinated, but for my age group what we get is Aztrazeneca and I don't trust that one.


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Fun fact, Pfizer was fined the largest fine ever in US medical history in 2009, 2.3 billion dollars, because they were actively suppressing medical information about the adverse effects of their drugs and silencing those who spoke out about it

Johnson & Johnson is another company producing a vaccine right now, and they're famous for making baby products. For over 50 years they were making baby products that cause cancer and furthermore they knew they were giving children cancer yet they continued to manufacture them anyways, eventually culminating in a tremendous lawsuit

I know 3 of the 4 companies releasing vaccines right now have histories of malicious medical practice but honestly I don't know which company is the third one. They're all scum bags trying to make fast money by forcing people to get vaccinated against this common cold

I have two female relatives that got the vaccine against my advice, and one of them sounds like she's about to die, and the other one spent the next 48 hours puking her guts out


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>Pfizer subsidiary Pharmacia & Upjohn pleaded guilty to a felony violation for promoting off-label uses of Bextra, such as for pain relief after knee replacement surgery. At the FDA's request, Pfizer pulled Bextra off the market in April 2005 because its risks, including a rare, sometimes fatal, skin reaction, outweighed its benefits


If you are from a shithole then you should have an easier time escaping this by bribing doctors or working at cash jobs. If anything you have less of an excuse to take this vaccine than the normalslaves in the first world, whom are all monitored 24/7 and are so brainwashed that trying to bribe a doctor will result in them snitching on you 99/100 times. The first world has more money, but FAR less freedom.


being unemployed for a while vs suffering a slow languishing death as your body collapses in on itself

gee hard choice


I'll get valneva's inactivated vaccine when it passes clinical trials and is made available for purchase if vaccination is still an issue when that occurs. I've been subjected to this type of vaccine since I was baby with no ill effects that I am aware of. I want nothing to do with the genetic fuckery chemicals and quasi-criminal biotech firms that are exempt from liability.


>unemployed for a while
And homeless not shortly after lol


Thanks Wizzie, I'm surprised nobody has even fucking mentioned those, waiting to Q1 is something I can do.


It's piss easy anywhere to find some menial labor job. If that's beneath you sure you can be a panhandler.


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Why wouldn't those get vaxx'ed too.
those will probably get experimental shots first.

I should learn to draw furry smut or code to work remotely.


Because trades are full of men who don't care for regulation. Half the work force are illegals paid in cash, that should be enough to tell you about trades.


I already shun society and normies, so i won't be taking it, ever.


1) I don't travel, because I'm not some normoid

2) I don't go to pubs/bars, or concerts, or large social gatherings because see #1

3) I'm not 70 years old with 4 co-morbidities.

So no, I don't think I'll be getting an untested, rushed to market vaccine


Why do you think that death is the only bad thing about covid-19 to avoid? It causes damage to multiple organs including the brain. It can literally shrink your brain and make you mentally impaired. (https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-05/giot-cag051121.php) Some people get terrible fatigue that never gets better, some people get lung scarring that makes them winded just walking. Some people get permanent changes to their sense of smell and taste including losing it completely. It's not death you need to worry about, it's surviving in a crippled state.


>some people
>some people
>some people


No it doesn't. I got covid and powered through it with ibuprofin and tylenol. I was fine after a few weeks. Why be hysteric? You got nut allergies too?


Not the guy you replied to, I had covid in the winter and I still feet its after-effects. My lungs hurt, not to a great extent, but can be annoying. Also, my sister had it too and she had some lung problems, nothing serious but like an incovenience none the less. This isn't just simple flu, no matter how much people say it is. That said, I didn't go to take the vaccine simply because I rarely leave the house.


so can many other diseases. it's hard to trust these reports when the media blatantly exagerate them to get people scared.


I personally think it's horrible how the US is rapidly vaccinating as many people as it can.

I still consider these vaccines as experimental treatment. Long term side effects are unknown. And I don't think there is any research on a 9 month pregnancy after taking these vaccines.


It's takes one to want one. I had to be on a ventilator for regular flu in 2018. So imagine getting on one for covid. Because of my experience I chose to get one


Rude ass punk, stay in FL and enjoy your inevitable hospital stay on a ventilator.

PS noones going to pay for your hospital stay LOL day of the ventilator for you soon


There's nothing wrong by default with expirmental. Pfizer will be fda approved this month










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Antinatalist wiz here, I'm touched by his message.



I'd be changing away from that sector but quick af


Experimental vaccines means that it should be used on a limited scale. Not given to a third of the population.

I'm worried that 9 months from now, there will be a lot of birth defects because of these vaccines. I'm worried that the next generation of Americans could have a compromised immune system to coronaviruses.


Coffee shrinks your brain from constricted blood vessels, and it goes on for more of peoples lives. The sun also gives you cancer, so does cooked food, especially barbecued food. What matters is not if something CAN happen, but the likelihood of this happening. If you do not have a weak body already, you will have a possibility of not even feeling anything (asymptomatic), or a light flu for the VAST majority of people. The "common cold" does everything Covid does, from lung scarring to blood vessel damage, its the same. Yet people will say Covid is more important because its more likely. Assuming this is even true (x to doubt), is it enough to bother caring about if you are not an 80+ year old walking gravestone? No, because the survival rate for TESTED cases (not all cases, since this virus can be asymptomatic), is lower than 1% if you are not about to walk into your grave in the next few years.

Delusional slave listens to its master's propaganda, yet will not look at the real data provided by the WHO themselves.


Kinda boomer/facebook tier but it has some good points.


nice sillyscope drawing


Personally I don't want one, but I respect your choice.


why the fuck would a wizard get the vaccine? its for normies dude.


Of course I'm not getting it. I'm not a good little goy.


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The vaccines are the first time where I see people actively discouraging others from doing research or asking questions. It's not the first time I see the answer to a neutral question be an euphemism of
>you're stupid
>don't ask questions
>trust the experts
>do it for others
>if you don't you're [bad word]
This shit seems more like a religion now.


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Guess you haven't been paying attention then.
Introduce pretty much anybody with ideas such as:
Infinite oil
There is no space
Flat earth
No Holocaust
Black holes don't exist
Mathematics doesn't represent reality
And all they can do is throw around platitudes and scoff. Few lads are able to undertake a completely hypothetical and abstract position for the sake of expanding the possibilities of thought itself.


>No Holocaust

Trying to associate the Holocaust myth with actual non-myths. Nice try Jew/Troll.


>You just don't have a high enough education to understand
>Proceeds to not explain what is in the vaccine


I got it. It's probably excessive/unnecessary for a hikkineet like me, but my parents go out and about a lot, so I went with them when they got their shots.

I think the whole business is quite shady, but, like, not as shady as my dealer from grad school.


It is the Mark of the Beast


>Guess you haven't been paying attention then.
Alright I guess I just didn't care before, you're right.


What baffles me is those retards think they're right instead and make a worthy contribution writing shit like that.


It's not that any of those are True or Untrue. My opinion on any of those doesn't matter as well as my anyone's who I present it to. These are just extreme ideas for mental exercise in openness.


Never ever


thought i already posted this but i dont see it

there are rare but extremely severe side effects from the vaccines. im not talking about, oh they are old and obese and have asthma, i mean shit like the blood clotting. they dont know whether youll have a reaction or not. i would prefer to wait until they have developed tests and additional screenings for a better guarantee of my safety

also i dont drive or go anywhere. i dont think anyone would be offended by a hermit neet refusing to get vaccinated. i dont even know how i would get vaccinated or where you go or how medical stuff works. they are gonna have to barge into my room and inject me because i dont see any other way for that to reach me


I'm not scared of flu, so no. I'd kill myself if they were to ever force it on me, which they can't. But I think in the coming years they'll definetely strip the non-vaxxed of their rights and freedoms though, which's fine with me, I can live the hikki life.


true wizQ wizpatriot here. my wizbody my wizchoice
true wizards vote trump WhereWeWizGo1WeWizGoAll







And that, wizards…is the secret to happiness ;-0


Finally some Wizpositivity ;)


As a lifetime NEET I see absolutely no reason to get the jab juice. I don't ever interact with people and I rarely leave my house during daylight hours. So what's the point of it for me? I don't know.


Same but it's naive to think they won't come for us sooner or later. You'll be having a bad toothache and no dentist will help you unless you get a covid pass or w/e it's called. And yet that would be a relatively soft approach in my opinion. We will probably get scapegoated for every resurgence of the virus; don't test much, everything's fine, test massively and you're bound to get the media to artificially panic over a new wave and manufacture consent for more authoritarian measures.
People living in america in red states might get away from this for a while, until the corporations ngos etc manage to bend public legislation but those of us in the west are screwed.


It’s literally illegal to ask for your vaccination status in my state.


Yes medical confidentiality is a thing. On paper. For now. Until emergency measures are "required". As I said they'll find a way around that sooner or later. It'll be private interests, ngos and their non-profit fronts doing the heavy lifting.
A common line I've seen popping up to argue for this is "google/apple/amazon is already tracking you and collecting all your data anyway!" which is the new "I've got nothing to hide" I guess. You know you're dealing with retards when that argument comes up.


It’s a bad argument but it’s not wrong. It’s retarded that people use it in defense of more invasive measures rather than wanting to flay these people alive for making the world 1984.


Not taking genetic modification (courtesy of reverse transcriptase) no matter what they do
This is the hill I die on
Not taking it


You took the words right out of my mouth. There are battles that I’ve chosen not to pick, but this is definitely one I’m picking. Even if I get locked up in a camp, I’m not taking it (this could be a real thing here in Canada, there have been rumours of it).


It's a conspiracy theory, they would never do such a thing :^)


I attempted to get the then-experimental Pfizer, they offered me a couple hundred dollars. I think that was the company, but I was rejected because I mentioned my depression.


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I loathe everything about this 'cure', my relation with my family has gone to shambles over differing opinions. My parents are pressuring me in getting this shit science juice, even though I tried using common sense points. My mom even had the gall to say "well if you get covid, and you want to go to the hospital- I'm not saving you." Never thought I would hear something so heartless from my mother but here we are. I understand she's concerned for my well-being, but she's falling for the exact fascist tactics used to torture billions of people. Wouldn't be a shock if she tells me to get inside a train because 'the rules' told her to do so. All in all, if you got vaccinated, then you shouldn't be treating those who didn't like vermins. Ironic how normalfags preach about being against inequality, but will be more than happy to throw disabled people who have restrictions under the bus.
Every person who decided to politicize the pandemic for brownie points can eat shit. I hope normalfags go on a lawsuit spree towards everything they can sue- even if they can't sue Pzifer etc. they can just sue doctors, employers, and even the companies who offered 'special deals' for their garbage vaccine.


>I loathe everything about this 'cure', my relation with my family has gone to shambles over differing opinions. My parents are pressuring me in getting this shit science juice, even though I tried using common sense points.
Yep, feels like /pol/ invading every thread and twitter politics invading everyday life, but on huge fucking steroids because you can't even opt-out of not taking a stance.
To most people you either take the vaccine, or you're anti-vaxx. And if you're anti-vaxx, you're anti-science, flatearther, russian troll, nazi, terrorist, and mass murderer.
They finally did it, the magnificent fucking bastards divided everyone and found an issue that makes everyone prejudiced against everyone.
2020 onwards is endgame - I won't be surprised if neighbours start insulting me when the "next wave" starts.
It's over.


This world can burn. Fuck everyone on it, npc's deserve everything they get


Yes, this. If the normies are too blind to have been awoken by the various happenings of the past six-plus years or so, they can hardly be pitied as they are injected with the penultimate end to the heellscape they created. Natural selection, Darwinism, and all that.

>My mom even had the gall to say "well if you get covid, and you want to go to the hospital- I'm not saving you."
Ouch. My condolences to you, Anon. I am in much the same boat as you, but my parents know better than to try and persuade me into taking their poison. "I won't take you to the hospital because of COVID" rings very close to "if you end up going to jail (lol) I'm not bailing you out" as far as needlessly vile and accusatory things that western mothers say to their sons in modern times. The succubus's gambit truly starts from the womb.


Strike one more, my mom is endlessly nagging me about getting the mark too. Did you know it’s not even FDA approved yet? All I am is hate.


> then you shouldn't be treating those who didn't like vermins

The word you're looking for here is retards, not vermins. You're being treated like retards. There's a difference. If you act retarded, don't be surprised when people treat you like you're being retarded.


how is he acting retarded?


Keep brow beating everyone who refuses to conform, I’m sure you’ll convince everyone to take the vaccine that way.


>inb4 ummmm sweetie ppl are litchreally dying and its all ur fault!!!11


My parents are quite vicious about the subject too. Every time I see my dad he yells at me, and I recently realized that he's actually just repeating shit he hears on NPR, word for word. Either way, I'm not taking it until someone physically forces me too, and I'll fight them on that as well.


my parents are antivaxx boomers and im antivax so yea none of us are getting the vaccine and no one cares.


My dad is also an NPR shill, weirdly my mom is the complete opposite, a trump shill, this house is a battlefield



I wish my family was anti-vaxx. Keep up the good fight brother


can't speak for the others but flat earth is total gay shit.
You can prove the curvature yourself by going to the beach and looking at the ships going far away with something to zoom (such as binoculars).
You will see the ship "descending into the sea".
With a flat earth that would never happen.


I'm starting to think all those movements are a deliberate way to false-flag legit movements, like anti-covid vaccine.
Midwits think they're Einstein by calling everyone they disagree with flat-earthers.


Never attribute to malice what could be explained by stupidity.

But don’t rule out malice.


Just seems so strange to actually believe it unironically.
I guess it would be like encountering a weeb which actually thinks handholding should be censored.



macabre. these are truly the Endtimes


>You can prove the curvature yourself by going to the beach and looking at the ships going far away with something to zoom (such as binoculars)
thats actually very similar to how you prove that ships dont go over the horizon. just with no binoculars you can watch a ship "go over the horizon", then use some binoculars and it will come back into view. you can watch it go over the horizon again with the binoculars and then youll have to go get a stronger pair to get the ship back into view but essentially you can repeat this ad infinitum. to say you know the shape of the earth definitively is foolish.


No that's fucking stupid, otherwise I should be able to see europe with a sufficiently strong telescope by standing on the east coast of the US. No one has ever done that.


>No one has ever done that
have you ever tried it dumbass? and even if you couldnt it would still mean the earth isnt nearly as curved as you think it is because being able to bring boats "back over the horizon" with more magnification is undeniably a thing.


Post a video of someone doing it.



sorry if the video is absolutely shit at loading i just dont know of any jewtube videos that show the effect.


I’m not convinced, there’s a difference between things coming into focus and being able to see indefinitely due to a flat earth. And also the fact you see the hull disappear first would indicate the earth is curved.


>And also the fact you see the hull disappear first would indicate the earth is curved
thats what would be intuitive however it is not the case.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hNIqLThL9Vqp/ (skip to 0:20)


The sibling entering high school next year is the libtard and some extended family I would've thought to be based were talking about getting vaccinated last time I saw them, but my mother and stepfather have been furious about all this covid lockdown bullshit since it started. Don't care the boomer reasoning for their opinions so long as they're on my side about it.


Well if the evidence supports both cases then it is useless. Anything else you'd like to bring up?


You dumbass that is just the water bobbing the boat up and down.


>Well if the evidence supports both cases then it is useless
what do you mean useless? it clearly gives you one less reason to think the earth is round. anyway i dont want to bring up anything else and derail the thread further.


If the evidence supports both sides then it ceases to be evidence of anything.


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This vaccination propaganda had so many parallels to DDT and Agent Orange.

So much of it sounds exactly the same. "Trust the scientists, scientists developed this." The government put out cartoons, jingles, and ads about DDT and Agent Orange.

Agent Orange produced horrible birth defects in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. Birth defects so bizarre that no scientist could have predicted them. These vaccines haven't even been out for 9 months so far, no one knows what will happen to the next generation. There wasn't even sufficient animal testing and waiting for complete animal gestation periods.

Agent Orange was developed by Monsanto with rushed development, government funding, and government protection. This sounds so similar to these COVID vaccines.


Not to mention it’s made by Pfizer and doesn’t have FDA approval.


Some People are never me, i am special and nothing bad Will ever happen to me, i am one of a kind


Some people die after vaccines and long-term effects are yet to be researched.
Maybe we should stop dictating what majority of the people should do for "some people".


>people are dying and it is litchreally ur fault!!!12
retarded, check death rate again and get back to me. if i die from it, i don't give a shit. if i already had it (and this is likely), then i shouldn't need a vaccine anyway. numerous strains, you might say? again, no point to vaccinate if it mutates so quickly. dumbass.


How do you deal with people who tell you that you should get the vaccine? It's starting to get on my nerves.


Tell them it's not FDA approved.

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