sounds like you turned into an npc rather than the "healthy individual" fitness shills try to portray
True man. See, i dont even give "Pillers" attention in general becuze its just another western PUA cult on the search for new prey. i have met skinny guys with own companies, making their own money, and guess what, no muscles involved. THIS, is reality you know.
Fitness of mind is the most important aspiration as it shapes your whole experience through your perception. Fitness of body may help fitness of mind but there are many meatheads obsessed with carnality who are simple fools that lack basic discernmet. If your purpose is not based on mind physical fitness is completely unwizardly. Any wisdom seeker who are disciplined enough to care for their body and mind are top tier and should be applauded by his fellows.
I go for long walks. I can't see myself doing anyting pass that.
Stephen Hawking can approve this post.
Body and mind are inseparable though, you can literally get depression from eating processed crap for years on end.
Your brain isn't separate from the rest of your body.
>>183175>you can literally get depression>depression
what does that word even mean in this century anymore? everyones "depressed" seems, atleast on the internet
why even is that? my pua coach said ego-lifting is the way to go? he would never lie to my! you are probably just small lol kettlebell swings what a loser you are not even hurting your back loool stay small fag im so much smarter as you
Mental illness is ill defined.
/fit/ enough to be called slim by normies with dadbods.
Doing 5x5 Stronglifts, I know I could be doing much more, I have terrible discipline so if I workout 2 times a week and don't drop below 8000 steps a day I feel like I'm succesful. I don't eat a lot, courtesy of anhedonia.
It doesn't really change my outlook on life, it's another chore. I'd upload myself into a android body or take some miracle drug like in anime if it was possible.
>>183244>I'd upload myself into a android body or take some miracle drug like in anime if it was possible.
I know how that feels super hard.
Doubt will see such tech in my lifetime though.
>>183240>Mental illness is ill defined.
bad defined? yea probably, but maybe also because there is no such thing, maybe its just a made up term to sell pills to bored people, who knows:)
Definitely, psychiatry is a scam.
I was a wrestler in High School, and made it to semifinals for state.
To the extent that it could impact my mood or disposition, it was entirely negative.
If you do not learn to despise people in fitness, then you probably were not immersed in it enough, and definitely not in a sport that borderline-requires <5% bodyfat levels for serious participation. Maybe you played something like baseball where lardballs make it on the professional stage.
Only the mentally damaged believe that athleticism carries moral value.
>>183371>Only the mentally damaged believe that athleticism carries moral value.
Very true. Could have something to do with the protestant work ethic tripe, sport as we know it is mostly of anglo-saxon origin after all.
The moralism around it has always made me sick, all the tired cliches on hard work, team work, camaraderie, fair play, that kind of saccharine nonsense spewed out machinally in the media, especially when there's a big event like the olympics to sell, and you know it is getting harder nowadays.
>If you do not learn to despise people in fitness, then you probably were not immersed in it enough
lol. More generally I would think it is true of most activities with an obsessive focus on performance and showing off that you are dedicated to an extreme degree. It is very visible with fit freaks because they tend to wear their tryhardism on their sleeve, so to speak… and sometimes literally, when they tape smartphones to their arms or use these spying devices that track their heart rate or what have you.
I moved back in with my dad after C19 made my job go remote. Quit drinking alcohol and started workin out in backyard with a rusty old 20lb barbel I found in his garage and cleaned up with a wire drill brush. Have lost about 40lbsand and have a lot more mental clarity and energy and don’t have the feeling of impending doom anymore and can enjoy stuff like reading books and playing RuneScape again. People are much nicer in public when you look more fit I have noticed. Overall I’d recommend it.
>>183377>People are much nicer in public when you look more fit
look, another victim of western narcissism brainwashing. whatever helps people sleep at night i guess so more power to them. some twitch streamer even think supporting blm does something good to the world, welcome to earth, such a great place.
just dont tell him guys:)
I prefer to at least be thin because it makes me look about 20 years younger. I don't dig looking middle aged when it isn't necessary.
>>183070>perma obese all my life
I know many people like that. If you were obese as a child, you are almost certainly stuck that way for life.
Going from being thin all your life to overweight very suddenly is a form of body horror. Is it the same going from obese as your default weight to thin? Not recognizing yourself in the mirror is depressing. It becomes unavoidable as you age but I'm trying to delay any appearance change as long as possible.
What I'd try in such a desperate case:
>meds can affect your metabolism>leave carbs, all of them>leave red meat and dairy of any kind>reduce your schedule of food intake, like just from 9am to 2pm and no more until next day>try a keto diet for a month
You may experience some balance, but can't guarantee a miracle. Even if some cases are given.
P.D: You are surely in a pre-diabetic state.
but its hard to be thin becuze many of us are emotional eater you know, we dont have much other pleasures than food in life. im thin too but i just hate it man…
>>183452>>leave carbs, all of them
rice is good man, and "only eat this, dont eat that" is never good. from what cult are you guys coming from?
Lifting is my main way of coping with reality. I have spent many years studying lifting and nutrition and have a massive folder of programs that I study to learn about better programming.
Despite all this I'm still not that big and pretty weak just because my genetics are trash. At least I'm not obese anymore though.
>>183477>rice is good
Disaster. Nothing makes glucose rise in your blood like rice, not even mention how starchy this product is.
You are lost.
oh look it's that kooky fucktard spamming the same tired dietary shit no one cares about
>>183482>Lifting is my main way of coping with reality
have fun in your 50`s or even 40`s bud, reality check will hit you hard if you dont find another cope soon
what happens in your 40s
You lose muscle mass.
are you sure? my dad is 50 and he is way stronger than me
it's called hopping on TRT.
You can still lift at those ages though. Unless you have bad arthritis or some shit.
Your testosterone levels go down but its still plenty possible to be fit at that age naturally. Keep in mind that things like weight lifting and a proper diet raise testosterone on their own or like the other guy said just hop on TRT and become a total beast in your older years.
I do a relatively mild workout plan focused on mobility, maintaining health, and preventing injury. Mostly using exercises I found from "kneesovertoesguy" on YouTube, who is a basketball player that had several knee injuries and successfully rehabilitated them through exercises. Mostly I do this because I don't want to experience physical pain or impairment as I age, especially since I will be living alone without other people to help me if I am disabled. I also tried training martial arts for a while, which was a fun hobby and good exercise but the gym shutdown for pandemic lockdowns.
As far as OP's original question about mental outlook, the answer is yes and no. I never lost or gained a ridiculous amount of weight from working out, because I was always pretty skinny, so I don't know about a huge change like that. However, I would say that after a decently hard workout I get a feeling of a kind of mental reset, where my mind becomes more clear. The mind is like a pipe that gets clogged up with different thoughts, and then forcing the body into exerting itself clears up the thoughts somehow. After a decently hard workout I get a temporary increase in mental clarity, focus, and mood because of this effect, but it doesn't last for more than a day at most.
>>183550>from "kneesovertoesguy" on YouTube, who is a basketball player that had several knee injuries and successfully rehabilitated them through exercises.
Do people always need heroes in their life, i mean cmon, who cares about background stories, is this drama queen central or what bud? NO, we wont look up your favorite youtube celebrity?!>>183550>tried training martial arts for a while, which was a fun hobby and good exercise but the gym shutdown for pandemic lockdowns.
look guys, i cant eat no more becuze wendy`s closed and i have no idea how to make a burger myself?! cant do sports becuze gym closed NOOO halp me.>>183550>I would say that after a decently hard workout I get a feeling of a kind of mental reset, where my mind becomes more clear.
YOU dropped martial arts becuze your gyms closed, HOW are you the person to give advice, can you pls explain this to me Anon?
It's not like all muscle disappears and it becomes impossible to lift.
Even when you're older, you'll have more muscle if you lift than if you're old and don't lift.
That looks fucking retarded. Have fun breaking your neck doing a headstand 500 times
>>183684>Even when you're older, you'll have more muscle if you lift than if you're old and don't lift.
completely right bud.
see thing is, your body is more than muscles, you have a vulnerable
foundation made of tendons, ligaments, nerves, joints and all the other good stuff even if burgermedia doesnt tell you. there is more to health than drinking your protein and doing biceps curls, atleast this is what they told me at the fitness trainer license meeting. but in the end, people have to make up their own mind, they dont need me to help them out you know.
>fitness trainer license meeting
I don't know about fit. I do a bit of exercise on most days, just bodyweight stuff usually. Bought a kettlebell recently so I'll start using that as well. I don't really care about getting super big or strong, I just want to stay lean and healthy. I generally don't enjoy exercising so I only do the bare minimum. Sometimes I go bouldering though, that's kind of fun and judging from how people look at me when I climb the pegboard, I seem to be moderately fit compared to normgroids there.
im too afraid to TRY to get fit because my spine is waving bye bye, despite not being old, my protrusions are scaring me
dont even know how this thing came into being, i have spent most of my life in front of my computer
succubi do seem to be quite attracted to me often, but i'm way too avoidant … This strange life
you dont need to exercise at all to lose weight. you need to quit eating so much food and quit blaming being fat on genetics
>>183803>you dont need to exercise at all to lose weight. you need to quit eating so much food and quit blaming being fat on genetics
im not blaming being fat on genetics. im saying what you get out of lifting is totally dependent on genetics. even if you do drugs, you either end up as a roid monster or a slayer. if your not a slayer, nobody gives a shit.
why does what you get out of something depend on how others around you will react? pathetic
I had the same impulse upon reading his post, but when you think about it, getting fit in order to improve one's social standing is a pretty valid reason and probably the biggest one. Yes, you are healthier which has intrinsic benefits. You won't get illnesses related to being out of shape, you will live longer, you may have better mood, but ultimately are these reasons good enough to motivate most people to exercise? The answer is no. The things that do motivate people to exercise are precisely what he posted, ie what people will think. People work out to be attractive and to be respected and even admired. Why are you so salty about basic human nature bro?
>>183814>Why are you so salty about basic human nature bro?
because this is wizchan and I do not expect people to be normalfags here who live to appeal to others but then again most people here are just crabs and not wizards anyway so forgive me for expecting this place not to be filled with normalfaggots
>>183815>because this is wizchan and I do not expect people to be normalfags here who live to appeal to others but then again most people here are just crabs and not wizards anyway so forgive me for expecting this place not to be filled with normalfaggots
this whole thread's existence just proves my point though. if you dont lift for validation, then why make this thread and post in it. and just look at all the replies of people saying they get noticed by succubi. you are coping hard if you dont think that every one here that lifts is a sex having normalnigger