I went from about 30% to 15% bodyfat but it took immense willpower.
I was supposed to build muscle after that but I was too depressed, it was a gigantic effort to even get out of bed let alone lift heavy weights.
I guess it can be done, but if you have depression you need almost superhuman mental capabilities to get through the drudgery, the diet, everything.
Yes, it absolutely did change my wellbeing and mental outlook. I felt happier, more balanced when I was at a normal weight instead of overweight. My mental clarity increased.
Normies also for the first time in my life treated me normally instead of with contempt.
And customer service, restaurant folk etc. called me sir instead of ignoring and gawking at me.
How you look and how much you weigh has a huge impact on life, but I've ballooned back up to about 25% body fat because I don't really have anything to live for.
With nothing to live for, the calorie restriction is no longer worth it and it's too easy to binge again for easy dopamine.
I actually got pretty fit back in 2011/2012, even managed to do 1/2/3/4
It was really great the whole having a goal in mind and to follow it thoroughly from a skeletal guy to becoming buffer than most people around. Taught me a lot about self discipline and how rare the thing is.
Emotionally I was pretty sound, then again I was on SSRIs as well.
Sadly that didn't change much about my life, despite being buff I was still a sperg that couldn't deal with people, with no friends/gf, still living with parents and eventually lost interest on the whole thing.
I still believe exercise is really important to keep a mental well being though doesn't have to be weightlifting as most male oriented imageboards/forums make you believe.
getting fit doesn’t matter I’ve found, it’s enough to just eat clean healthy meals and get some mild exercise like walking around your house a bit or doing some chores, muscles are pointless in modern day and most people who build them just end up getting fat once they stop exercising. So control yourself, eat healthy, get up to walk from time to time, that’s the secret to better mental health
Honestly I think muscle building is some typical macho male meme right next to “nofap” and extreme beard grooming garbage, it’s stupid
Nofap is legit, porn fries your brain, absolutely no benefits to using porn.
>>182488>having muscles is pointless>most people who build them just end up getting fat once they stop exercising
ignorant people are quick to talk about things they know nothing about. in reality:
muscle tissue is metabolically more active and burns more calories than fat tissue. The more muscles you have, the bigger your resting energy expenditure, which means that your body burns more calories “while doing nothing”.
>walking around your house a bit or doing some chores is enough
Sure, if you have muscles which you say to be pointless lol
>>182489>porn fries your brain
I think this is only the case if you're a very young child. If porn controls how you act past twelve years old, your brain was already fried to begin with.
thats why i dont bother losing weight tbh, sure you could grit your teeth for a few months, but years? decades? what for? especially when food can be such a joy to eat>>182492
I lost almost 100 pounds from quitting drinking, while running and cycling. I was still me of course, but I felt much better and had a clearer mind. I actually started reading books again too.
I did once, and that’s when I found out that my personality was also irredeemable and people didn’t just dislike me for being fat.
After that became clear I got even fatter than before and have been ever since.
Getting fit made me give up on humans and life, really.
don’t have muscles and I’m not fat, having a higher rate of burning calories is bad because then you need to spend more money on food, just eat less and don’t waste you time/money on having pointless muscles
yes. didnt do shit mentally. made me more neurotic actually.
>>182506>dont have muscles and im not fat
being thin doesn't mean you're healthy, and you think walking in your room and doing house chores is enough to be fit or healthy, that lifestyle will cause you more health problems> having a higher rate of burning calories is bad because then you need to spend more money on food
No, maybe if you're a bodybuilder or one of those meatheads. You don't have to obsess over your caloric intake.>just eat less and don’t waste you time/money on having pointless muscles
Building muscles and strength training is about your health. How is it pointless having something that improves your health and reduces the risk of diseases?
what matters to one's health is physical activity in a very broad sense, not strength training or sports or any other tryhard shit that's constantly and counter productively shilled to the public.
we've never been this obsessed with sport yet have never had so many people ill from a lack of activity, yet the answer from the meathead is… more pointless sport. running to go nowhere, moving stuff around that doesnt have to be moved and so on.
humans have probably never run so much as today, yet we don't walk as much as we used to. in a normal environment we should not have to over compensate by burning energy pointlessly.
>>182509>what matters to one's health is physical activity in a very broad sense, not strength training or sports
source: pure ignorance >this is all pointless, pointless sport, pointless exercise
It's so pointless that gives you health benefits like strengthening your bones, helping your blood pressure, reduces risk of hypertension, heart disease, increase your energy levels and improve your mood, etc.
Aylmao keep on being delusional, kid.
yes all human beings were unhealthy before the invention of the air conditioned gym and sneakers.
>It's so pointless that gives you health benefits like strengthening your bones, helping your blood pressure, reduces risk of hypertension, heart disease, increase your energy levels and improve your mood, etc.
yes none of these things are achievable lest you lift repeatedly a piece of metal or run on a treadmill like a fucking rodent in a cage
>>182512>yes all human beings were unhealthy before the invention of the air conditioned gym and sneakers.
You should improve your reading comprehension if that's what you get from my post, and maybe do some exercise it also improves your cognitive abilities.
i might have worded that sentence poorly:
what matters to one's health is physical activity in a very broad sense, not just strength training or sports
you should also correct yourself when you say that muscles are pointless
i said that where?
however muscle building for the sake of muscle building is
>>182517>muscle building for the sake of muscle building
literally nobody does that aylmao
I keep myself in decent shape, that is to say lean and however much muscle I can get by doing basic calisthenics and some moderate cardio. I'm generally very lethargic and the thought of having to lift heavy weights or doing really exhausting exercise is enough of a deterrent to not bother. I can do ring dips, currently working towards one arm pullups and pistol squats, which is probably still fitter than a lot of the population.
I've been doing OMAD and losing weight but never really exercised in my life, I am too anxious about going to the gym
i believe it is important. strength will change your life, its hard to explain if you havent done it, but there is a noticeable psychological change almost immediately after. i lift heavy
How did you manage to do it? Twice?!
Fuck man, I struggled with my weight all my life. Lost 22 kilos in my early 20s and then failed out of college and gained it all back and even more. Then I had a few tries throughout my 20s, losing 10kgs, gaining 10 kgs…
Now I lost 23 kgs during the pandemic but it's such a pain. Fortunately now I'm good at keeping my progress but shedding the weight is such a pain…
I don't want to eat junk, I just want to be at normal weight. Losing another 25 kgs but it's slow as fuck
Possibly not exactly fit, but wondering if anyone else here just does passive diet restriction? When I was a kid I would just eat everything my parents gave me and not really think about it, I wasn't extremely fat but I was chubby and people thought I was a young girl lol.
But basically now I'm the lowest weight/healthiest I've ever been, and all I do is just not eat so much food and make sure what I do eat is healthy and nutritious. I have 3 meals a day, breakfast and lunch I make a bit small because my mom always makes large portions for dinner and I got now way out of that, occasionally I will have a snack(peanut butter, prunes, nuts), and I swapped out soda and milk for water and tea. It's sorta amazing that just a little thought put into your diet can make such a big difference.
I was about 189 pounds(six feet tall) at my highest and now I sit at 165. I could probably do with losing 5 more pounds but I think I'm alright where I am. I am a lot more confident when I go outside because I don't worry about the muffin top I get or the kinda neck fat that hides my jawline. But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to attract a mate or anything, it's just a sorta self-respect thing. Eat good, look good, feel good. And despite weighing less my healthier diet gives me a lot more energy.
self-respect is an unconcious desire to find a mate though , succubi put on makeup before going out for the same reasons
>>182801>self-respect is an unconcious desire to find a mate though
🤡 *honk honk*
Self-preservation* Makeup isn't the same as self-care.
I got pretty fit from doing national service a few years back and I think due to my DNA I just never put on weight. People said that would change but it still has not, I've compared images and I'm not terribly different except slightly less muscle and smoother skin.
>>182802>self-respect is an unconcious desire to find a mate though
I would agree with this statement.
Being physically healthy/attractive is in-and-of-itself satisfying only because the instinct that drives us to be sexually/socially selected is so strong as to be self-rewarding.
While there is an argument for being healthy simply to feel energized, stable and healthy - which you'll probably raise - that only goes so far. People wouldn't care about looking good or being strong (or w/e else) if it didn't provide them either with the reality or imaginable reality of sexual/social prowess - that's where the bulk of the satisfaction comes from. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
Yes I was fit for a few years until other life events removed the focus from fitness. If you're a wagecuck, it's a lot more work on top of that. You need to eat a fuckton of food and if you want to do it cheaply, you have to cook it yourself. In addition to the 1 hour or so of gym time that you must fit in with your office commute and wagecuck unpaid overtimes.
If you can devote the time and effort to it, I recommend it. People, especially succubi, treat you way better. They won't jump on your dick or anything, you need way more than just fitness for that, but at least not all of them are rude or dismissive in regular everyday interaction. Also, it's an ok hobby and can be enjoyable and you feel like you have more energy for things.
>>182815>People wouldn't care about looking good or being strong (or w/e else) if it didn't provide them either with the reality or imaginable reality of sexual/social prowess
No, I just don’t want to stand out by being a fat smelly guy that needs a haircut. Best to just keep up appearances and fit in the crowd, hiding in plain sight.
so just get a haircut and keep at a healthy bmi
If you want to look good you are looking for a partner and need to leave, or you're a vain retard and should also leave
>>182891>just get a haircut and keep at a healthy bmi>If you want to look good you are looking for a partner
What is this cognitive dissonance? Getting a haircut and staying slim is trying to look good. You just said the same thing twice with two different opinions you massive gorilla retard.
>>182896>Getting a haircut and staying slim is trying to look good.
No they're just basic things any reasonable human does for the sake of their health and hygiene. Trying to make yourself look attractive is different and you're being disingenuous (or stupid) by implying otherwise.
staying slim and getting a proper haircut is synonymous with looking good, I have no idea what insane logic you are operating on
I suppose they are saying that it is reasonable to do the bare minimum of haircut + bmi.
Different than going to the gym, spending time on styling your hair, caring carefully for your skin, buying new stylish clothes, taking care of facial hair carefully, showering everyday
No one in this reply chain even mentioned going to the gym or any of those things you listed, you claimed that (basically) not looking like a fat raggy homeless man means you are trying to be sexually attractive, then you tried to backtrack and say a haircut and staying slim is fine because doing that is somehow no an attempt to look better, now you're trying to add in all these things no one even brought up, like going to the gym, styling your hair, wearing fashionable clothes, trimming your beard, etc.. You cognitive dissonance is unreal, you're just coming up with random shit to support your flawed argument that if you have self respect you are trying to have sex.
only normalfags care about respect
only normalfags care about respect
>People wouldn't care about looking good or being strong (or w/e else) if it didn't provide them either with the reality or imaginable reality of sexual/social prowess - that's where the bulk of the satisfaction comes from.
I would argue that only with the mindset of a wizard can allow one to sculpt their own body to their own desire. Those that pursue a Adonis like body for vain pleasures often fail because of such petty goals . And those that do succeed tend to lose their body after becoming complacent after mating/marriage. To the average person, finding a mate is the desired result. To the muscle wizard, at least, finding a mate is just a byproduct of that self-respect.
how much are you able to lift? post equipment pics
Yeah. Mental outlook? Not really.
I lift 2/3/4/5 and while I'm not shredded I still have abdominal definition and visible bicep vascularity.
I guess at first it makes you feel good to feel and see progress in yourself but after a while working out just becomes something you do because you "have" to. It stopped being a hobby for me and just became something expected like eating.
Men will frequently comment on my body and joke around about how big I am. succubi don't bother me about it because as some guys in the gym have put it, I look like a supervillain and am basically terrifying to them. I can tell you that once you reach a certain point normalfags will NEVER fuck with you again. When I was a 155lb 21 year old I would get treated like shit routinely but now I only receive respect or in some cases envy.
If you forget to breath and the weights are lifted, you just burned all your oxygen, as soon as you feel your head getting lighter you have 4 seconds to get flat on the ground before passing out.
that last guy's legs bending backward at the end
In the past I have never cared about it.
Now I'm 30 and if I don't get in shape I can probably start getting a bunch of problems and pain in my body pretty soon.
I've been trying since spring now and I'm making alright progress.
>>182948>I can tell you that once you reach a certain point normalfags will NEVER fuck with you again.
That's nice. I don't have muscle yet but I noticed a bit of the same thing when I went from a tiny, skinny kid to being much taller than average and not skinny anymore.
>>182948>I can tell you that once you reach a certain point normalfags will NEVER fuck with you again.
for me, this isnt really the case, hell its even the opposite, once they see youre doing better than them, they will test you even harder, they will try to sabotage your mind, out of jealousy? people will never stop to pick on you, ESPECIALLY when you are successful. so i dont really would trust his advice imo.
i want to add: you just get stronger, but it doesnt get easier anon.
Well are you actually bigger/stronger? I have 19" arms
Being the human version of a broiler chicken isn't healthy, anon.
i just put on like 5Kg in last 3 months but its not about pure mass right, remember, heavy weight training is a massive attack to your immune system too, i did not realize this in my young years. nowadays i do exclusively kettlebell swings and feel dominant because it really helps you with core stability and my lat got nice too. i got stronger, but stronger at my mind too.
don't wanna get manboobs from lifting these things never go away
That is why you aren't getting the same experience I am out of it, you are still small.
I'm 5'7 with a small frame + shitty fat deposition genetics when i bloat and gain fat mainly in my thigs.
I've just accepted I'll be weak even if i gain a few pounds.Never bothered with lifting after trying for a few months and making minimal gains
i have to do lots of manual labor for my relatives, and recently my job. i have muscle abd im not obese but i would not consider myself fit since i eat like shit and dont actually exercise or workout
As a wizard who was fit in his teens and 20s, it does help. Normies will assume you're like them and generally treat you positively. Succubi will also be more pleasant initially and generally but it isn't going to get them to jump on your dick unless you're naturally really attractive. If you're a wizard at heart, it's not going to help much in that regard.
I would say in general it is a net positive. I found that getting a job was much easier even without education and that people were more pleasant. If you have the discipline for it, it's a good thing.
and you are the better person by measuring your biceps? fuck off sissy, keep searching for things that differents you from others, avoid trust and closeness your whole life, thats fine for me, but this way, you are just another satanic minion for the evil elites. but, whatever helps you sleep at night bud.
do you really think a person like you should call others "small"? why do you think that he could be your enemy?
This. People do treat you better. Especially normies/more mainstream people, as it seems to have been a big part of popular culture, for a long time now.
not really fit. Just stopped eating for a while and got really skinny.
Hey dude, I just wanted to say don't worry about it. Yeah gaining back the weight you had to suffer to lose sucks I experienced it too.
I think it was 7 years ago when I had my last successful weight loss. I dropped 22kgs (was still obese). Then I failed out of college and depression did it's work and I slowly gained it all back + 4kg.
Now during the pandemic I managed to lose 23-24 kilograms. I'm almost at that weight, I was at 22.
Hopefully I won't fail this time.
My advice is to just do it anyways.
There is no good time to start a new diet. If you start all motivated then eventually the motivation is going to run out and you may fail again.
But if you start when it sucks and you push through the sucky times you'll have a better fighting chance during the bad times.
Just build discipline.
I liked your story, it makes me hopeful that I can get rid most of my sickness and be able to live a relatively normal life because I don't know how it feels like being slim, I was a fatty since I was 10.
they treat you better until you fuck up and they sniff the wizard in you. That's my experience. And succubi seem to have built in weirdo/wizard/aspie detectors.
I can't translate schizo babble >>183067
Well he just suggested to others that I was wrong based on his personal experience and then after questioning him he revealed that he hasn't really put much work into his body at all yet
Before I started getting fit I was in a real bad spot mentally and physically. I was starting to experience all these random health problems so I decided I had to do something. I started with just walking for a mile at night. It was a relaxing way to spend the night so I quite enjoyed it. I then knew I needed to control my weight so I started eating once a day. Then I started using the exercise bike and that's when it really changed for me. I experienced that "runner's high" and even when I was in a bad mood I felt amazing. Then it really just took over my life for me. Now I do more lifting and some hard cardio 4x a week.
Physically I look better. Physically I feel better. And I suspect that endorphin rush I get from exercising is no accident. I believe we are biological machines and exercise/diet are tools we can use to maintain our bodies.
nice, your post seems to be more near to reality, more down to earth because how does getting muscles makes your life better? seems like a western, narcissistic trap because muscles dont really teach you how to treat normalfags the right way you know. seems many people here overestimate sports or even try to advertise it
I did intense cardio at night outside for liken2 months and didn’t feel a thing, only thing I noticed was I could walk up more stairs, I ended up just getting bored and stopping, there was never any high, just constant anxiety and paranoia from being outside
Your health would get better but you'd be the same social retard. "Redpillers" are delusional.
What are you talking about?
99% of people into redpill stuff will tell you the importance of having a strong healthy body to go along with a strong healthy mind. That you have to put im the work for such things but that they are worth it. Because being weak and unhealthy fucking sucks.
sounds like you turned into an npc rather than the "healthy individual" fitness shills try to portray
True man. See, i dont even give "Pillers" attention in general becuze its just another western PUA cult on the search for new prey. i have met skinny guys with own companies, making their own money, and guess what, no muscles involved. THIS, is reality you know.
Fitness of mind is the most important aspiration as it shapes your whole experience through your perception. Fitness of body may help fitness of mind but there are many meatheads obsessed with carnality who are simple fools that lack basic discernmet. If your purpose is not based on mind physical fitness is completely unwizardly. Any wisdom seeker who are disciplined enough to care for their body and mind are top tier and should be applauded by his fellows.
I go for long walks. I can't see myself doing anyting pass that.
Stephen Hawking can approve this post.
Body and mind are inseparable though, you can literally get depression from eating processed crap for years on end.
Your brain isn't separate from the rest of your body.
>>183175>you can literally get depression>depression
what does that word even mean in this century anymore? everyones "depressed" seems, atleast on the internet
why even is that? my pua coach said ego-lifting is the way to go? he would never lie to my! you are probably just small lol kettlebell swings what a loser you are not even hurting your back loool stay small fag im so much smarter as you
Mental illness is ill defined.
/fit/ enough to be called slim by normies with dadbods.
Doing 5x5 Stronglifts, I know I could be doing much more, I have terrible discipline so if I workout 2 times a week and don't drop below 8000 steps a day I feel like I'm succesful. I don't eat a lot, courtesy of anhedonia.
It doesn't really change my outlook on life, it's another chore. I'd upload myself into a android body or take some miracle drug like in anime if it was possible.
>>183244>I'd upload myself into a android body or take some miracle drug like in anime if it was possible.
I know how that feels super hard.
Doubt will see such tech in my lifetime though.
>>183240>Mental illness is ill defined.
bad defined? yea probably, but maybe also because there is no such thing, maybe its just a made up term to sell pills to bored people, who knows:)
Definitely, psychiatry is a scam.
I was a wrestler in High School, and made it to semifinals for state.
To the extent that it could impact my mood or disposition, it was entirely negative.
If you do not learn to despise people in fitness, then you probably were not immersed in it enough, and definitely not in a sport that borderline-requires <5% bodyfat levels for serious participation. Maybe you played something like baseball where lardballs make it on the professional stage.
Only the mentally damaged believe that athleticism carries moral value.
>>183371>Only the mentally damaged believe that athleticism carries moral value.
Very true. Could have something to do with the protestant work ethic tripe, sport as we know it is mostly of anglo-saxon origin after all.
The moralism around it has always made me sick, all the tired cliches on hard work, team work, camaraderie, fair play, that kind of saccharine nonsense spewed out machinally in the media, especially when there's a big event like the olympics to sell, and you know it is getting harder nowadays.
>If you do not learn to despise people in fitness, then you probably were not immersed in it enough
lol. More generally I would think it is true of most activities with an obsessive focus on performance and showing off that you are dedicated to an extreme degree. It is very visible with fit freaks because they tend to wear their tryhardism on their sleeve, so to speak… and sometimes literally, when they tape smartphones to their arms or use these spying devices that track their heart rate or what have you.
I moved back in with my dad after C19 made my job go remote. Quit drinking alcohol and started workin out in backyard with a rusty old 20lb barbel I found in his garage and cleaned up with a wire drill brush. Have lost about 40lbsand and have a lot more mental clarity and energy and don’t have the feeling of impending doom anymore and can enjoy stuff like reading books and playing RuneScape again. People are much nicer in public when you look more fit I have noticed. Overall I’d recommend it.
>>183377>People are much nicer in public when you look more fit
look, another victim of western narcissism brainwashing. whatever helps people sleep at night i guess so more power to them. some twitch streamer even think supporting blm does something good to the world, welcome to earth, such a great place.
just dont tell him guys:)
I prefer to at least be thin because it makes me look about 20 years younger. I don't dig looking middle aged when it isn't necessary.
>>183070>perma obese all my life
I know many people like that. If you were obese as a child, you are almost certainly stuck that way for life.
Going from being thin all your life to overweight very suddenly is a form of body horror. Is it the same going from obese as your default weight to thin? Not recognizing yourself in the mirror is depressing. It becomes unavoidable as you age but I'm trying to delay any appearance change as long as possible.
What I'd try in such a desperate case:
>meds can affect your metabolism>leave carbs, all of them>leave red meat and dairy of any kind>reduce your schedule of food intake, like just from 9am to 2pm and no more until next day>try a keto diet for a month
You may experience some balance, but can't guarantee a miracle. Even if some cases are given.
P.D: You are surely in a pre-diabetic state.
but its hard to be thin becuze many of us are emotional eater you know, we dont have much other pleasures than food in life. im thin too but i just hate it man…
>>183452>>leave carbs, all of them
rice is good man, and "only eat this, dont eat that" is never good. from what cult are you guys coming from?
Lifting is my main way of coping with reality. I have spent many years studying lifting and nutrition and have a massive folder of programs that I study to learn about better programming.
Despite all this I'm still not that big and pretty weak just because my genetics are trash. At least I'm not obese anymore though.
>>183477>rice is good
Disaster. Nothing makes glucose rise in your blood like rice, not even mention how starchy this product is.
You are lost.
oh look it's that kooky fucktard spamming the same tired dietary shit no one cares about
>>183482>Lifting is my main way of coping with reality
have fun in your 50`s or even 40`s bud, reality check will hit you hard if you dont find another cope soon
what happens in your 40s
You lose muscle mass.
are you sure? my dad is 50 and he is way stronger than me
it's called hopping on TRT.
You can still lift at those ages though. Unless you have bad arthritis or some shit.
Your testosterone levels go down but its still plenty possible to be fit at that age naturally. Keep in mind that things like weight lifting and a proper diet raise testosterone on their own or like the other guy said just hop on TRT and become a total beast in your older years.
I do a relatively mild workout plan focused on mobility, maintaining health, and preventing injury. Mostly using exercises I found from "kneesovertoesguy" on YouTube, who is a basketball player that had several knee injuries and successfully rehabilitated them through exercises. Mostly I do this because I don't want to experience physical pain or impairment as I age, especially since I will be living alone without other people to help me if I am disabled. I also tried training martial arts for a while, which was a fun hobby and good exercise but the gym shutdown for pandemic lockdowns.
As far as OP's original question about mental outlook, the answer is yes and no. I never lost or gained a ridiculous amount of weight from working out, because I was always pretty skinny, so I don't know about a huge change like that. However, I would say that after a decently hard workout I get a feeling of a kind of mental reset, where my mind becomes more clear. The mind is like a pipe that gets clogged up with different thoughts, and then forcing the body into exerting itself clears up the thoughts somehow. After a decently hard workout I get a temporary increase in mental clarity, focus, and mood because of this effect, but it doesn't last for more than a day at most.
>>183550>from "kneesovertoesguy" on YouTube, who is a basketball player that had several knee injuries and successfully rehabilitated them through exercises.
Do people always need heroes in their life, i mean cmon, who cares about background stories, is this drama queen central or what bud? NO, we wont look up your favorite youtube celebrity?!>>183550>tried training martial arts for a while, which was a fun hobby and good exercise but the gym shutdown for pandemic lockdowns.
look guys, i cant eat no more becuze wendy`s closed and i have no idea how to make a burger myself?! cant do sports becuze gym closed NOOO halp me.>>183550>I would say that after a decently hard workout I get a feeling of a kind of mental reset, where my mind becomes more clear.
YOU dropped martial arts becuze your gyms closed, HOW are you the person to give advice, can you pls explain this to me Anon?
It's not like all muscle disappears and it becomes impossible to lift.
Even when you're older, you'll have more muscle if you lift than if you're old and don't lift.
That looks fucking retarded. Have fun breaking your neck doing a headstand 500 times
>>183684>Even when you're older, you'll have more muscle if you lift than if you're old and don't lift.
completely right bud.
see thing is, your body is more than muscles, you have a vulnerable
foundation made of tendons, ligaments, nerves, joints and all the other good stuff even if burgermedia doesnt tell you. there is more to health than drinking your protein and doing biceps curls, atleast this is what they told me at the fitness trainer license meeting. but in the end, people have to make up their own mind, they dont need me to help them out you know.
>fitness trainer license meeting
I don't know about fit. I do a bit of exercise on most days, just bodyweight stuff usually. Bought a kettlebell recently so I'll start using that as well. I don't really care about getting super big or strong, I just want to stay lean and healthy. I generally don't enjoy exercising so I only do the bare minimum. Sometimes I go bouldering though, that's kind of fun and judging from how people look at me when I climb the pegboard, I seem to be moderately fit compared to normgroids there.
im too afraid to TRY to get fit because my spine is waving bye bye, despite not being old, my protrusions are scaring me
dont even know how this thing came into being, i have spent most of my life in front of my computer
succubi do seem to be quite attracted to me often, but i'm way too avoidant … This strange life
you dont need to exercise at all to lose weight. you need to quit eating so much food and quit blaming being fat on genetics
>>183803>you dont need to exercise at all to lose weight. you need to quit eating so much food and quit blaming being fat on genetics
im not blaming being fat on genetics. im saying what you get out of lifting is totally dependent on genetics. even if you do drugs, you either end up as a roid monster or a slayer. if your not a slayer, nobody gives a shit.
why does what you get out of something depend on how others around you will react? pathetic
I had the same impulse upon reading his post, but when you think about it, getting fit in order to improve one's social standing is a pretty valid reason and probably the biggest one. Yes, you are healthier which has intrinsic benefits. You won't get illnesses related to being out of shape, you will live longer, you may have better mood, but ultimately are these reasons good enough to motivate most people to exercise? The answer is no. The things that do motivate people to exercise are precisely what he posted, ie what people will think. People work out to be attractive and to be respected and even admired. Why are you so salty about basic human nature bro?
>>183814>Why are you so salty about basic human nature bro?
because this is wizchan and I do not expect people to be normalfags here who live to appeal to others but then again most people here are just crabs and not wizards anyway so forgive me for expecting this place not to be filled with normalfaggots
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>>183815>because this is wizchan and I do not expect people to be normalfags here who live to appeal to others but then again most people here are just crabs and not wizards anyway so forgive me for expecting this place not to be filled with normalfaggots
this whole thread's existence just proves my point though. if you dont lift for validation, then why make this thread and post in it. and just look at all the replies of people saying they get noticed by succubi. you are coping hard if you dont think that every one here that lifts is a sex having normalnigger