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I don't understand this mindset, I've never looked at anyone and thought "I want to have sex with that person", neither have I thought that I want to be around some person just because they look attractive. I've always seen "crab" types talking about how they want some certain GF and I am just perplexed as to why? Like they will fawn over some person that they don't even know.

For me I hardly even acknowledge people unless for some reason I had to interact with them and we happened to share interests, obviously they've all been male and I don't have any problem with that. It's clear to me that a female wouldn't be interested in my hobbies so by extension they wouldn't be stimulating to spend any time with.

I also just look at my parents relationship, they have nothing in common, and I wonder why they even got together and had kids. In my head I just think of it like this, if that female they are so interested in was a male they probably would not care a single bit, but for some reason most normals value a pretty female over a friend that actually shares their views and hobbies and they have to choose one or the other. For some reason this made me think back to my old classes in grade school where we learned about ancient greece where women were just for having children and stayed in their social circle of other women and the real relationships and emotional bonding for men were between other men. I feel like that is the right mindset and how things should work, the constructs we see today of men getting along with the opposite sex are just media lies.

Did anyone else have this thought before? I'd like to learn exactly why normals think the way they do, it just seems completely illogical.


Who knows why people do anything? I mean, some people want to change their gender and crossdress. Most of what people do is pure instinct, rationalized afterwards.


>some people want to change their gender and crossdress
The thing is, I see that as more rational than interacting with a person that you have nothing in common with solely because they are physically attractive. To me, chaining yourself to a person you don't like in a philosophical sense sounds hellish, it's a no wonder to me that divorce rates are so high, it's only sad that the children of this sort of mindset have to suffer.


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Well for one sex is really a no brainer, almost literally. If you're a man, boobs and vagina will be attractive to you unless you are some small 2% of the population who is gay or afflicted with some other mental illness.

Relationships i agree on though. I see some in anime or movies and I can kinda start to understand, but real people just disgust and bore me. Further more, the thought of being naked around another human being, even for the purposes of fucking, is too uncomfortable for me to ever even consider having sex in real life.


OP you are trying to rationalize humans for one and that does not always work well as we are irrational even wizards.
You also look from the outside in at your parents and wonder why they got together when they could have been in love and that is not something you can even observe as a quality that makes their bond worth maintaining.

You mention hobbies and stuff to point out typically men and succubus like different things but a relationship can be so much more than just sharing some hobbies you talk about it is souls returning to each other to become whole.

Normalfags derive a lot of value by working towards their normalfag ideals and that is all there is to it. Friendships are another thing and they can help make life worth living for even if your only experience of one was online.


What is love? To me it is only something that can be shared from parents to their children, I dont think you can truly love a stranger no matter how much you know them. Couples will say they love each other but then get divorced a few years later, to me it's not love unless it is unconditional.




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When I see nice pussy and tits, I get a boner and my mouth starts watering.

I then have to relieve this insatiable urge by touching myself, salivating and blowing my load into a sock.


I doubt nearly anyone who says they love someone feels more than a lust or see someone as a way to feed their own ego and get what they want from them.
Love is indescribable it is what makes life worth living it is just finding joy in someone else on a level that blows everything else out of proportion.

Love is irrational you cannot understand it even with some dawinistic deduction bullshit it is still beyond comprehension and something that you have to experience. Maybe you will make a friend on OSRS you end up feeling the worlds most powerful bond with and then you will know and it will only end badly. Love is too much for humans to handle.
Don't hurt me


It's a biological instinct hardwired into all animals to reproduce. Well most animals as it seems humans are getting weirder and weirder.

They all have features that they see as attractive, usually as a result of evolutionary and environmental pressures. such as boobies and hips showing a succubus reaching sexual maturity, a guy being rich, tall, dark and handsome is desirable for offspring, future stability, etc.

Humans are also a tribal/herd animal, they normally want to form bonds with people similar to them, for socialising, security, mental health, etc. Just take this website as an example, even absolute losers cast out of society want somewhere where they can get together and talk to others similar to them. A sexual relationship is merely a more advanced version of that.


Animal instincts, the same reason why a male praying mantis looks for a mate knowing that the female mantis is going to bite its head off during sex. You are programmed to spread your seed.


Can any gays that have been abused tell us if you "changed" and you notice things changed after the abuse


well for one they became gay


The more you about reality and the nature of being, the more ridiculous it gets.


You'll drive yourself crazy trying to understand why normalfags do what they do. It's not worth even thinking about.


It's normal, sorry you're a big homo fag, like 99% of wizchan.


I've been browsing and posting here for two whole years and I can't belong it took me THIS long to realize all you crab hating "wizards" are just faggots in denial, JFC, I feel really dumb it took me this long to realize that.


how does not wanting to have sex make you a homosexual? This is just the argument crabs always use because they can’t comprehend that a male doesn’t want to have sex


I (used to) agree wholeheartedly.
The issue I ran into (and lead me to give up) is that most men you meet are paranoid of coming off as gay, so one compensates by being homophobic over things that would show some fondness or warmth. Fondness and warmth from men may be a psyop, I don't know, I certainly don't want it today. If anything I relish in my autism.

I think the widespread acceptance of homos in our society have effectively cut off any sort of benign bond due to paranoia of being perceived as gay or making friends feel uncomfortable. Since common things like touch and rough-housing is now seen as gay.

I'm not exempt from it either.
Today I could not imagine having any sort of bond. It is purely transactional.
Transactional relationships are what suit me, I find.

People usually give the "we're animals" reason despite the fact that we can always rise above being an animal. If you let animalistic tendencies rule you, then you are what you believe to be, an animal.
That seems like an empty life.

There is no benefit to having a succubus other than to have children and someone to look after a house.


If OP truly doesn't understand why straight people want to have sex then that's a very gay attitude, just being realistic, being gay is way more common than any asexual condition, not to mention he specifically mentioned relations between people off opposite sex.


30 yo khhv checking in. i know what you mean, op. i have never been in a relationship in my life and really don’t get it. my parents had zero in common as well. My literally one friend from childhood (who wont leave me alone and was a wiz until like 25) found some fat succubus that he just paid a new iphone for. from my brief observations of them, my parents, and i guess media, it seems like NT guys want a succubus who they can baby like their child. i honestly find it bizarre, like wouldn’t you rather live with a competent adult that doesn’t work and just soends all your money like a leech? At this point, im honestly just waiting for her to leave his dumb ass. god they bith annoy the fuck out of me…


i got the same feeling but maybe he misspoke and meant relationship? idk. obviously lust happens but maybe op has something major wrong with him and is literally asexual?
Or, everyone on wizchan is a faggot. guess thats totally plausible too


we really should just be fagchan at this point.


I meant that a relationships with a female is retarded and I'd rather share my hobbies with male peers that I can relate with


Females are only valuable for their biological functions and literally nothing else. If we wanted to we could replace them with technology and be done with it.


Unfortunately if you browse /meta/, it seems that is basically what this website now is.


Being critical of relationships doesn't make you gay, what is this logic.


It's just the same typical highschool bully logic "if you dont want anything to do with girls youre gay!!"


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OP, I know people are going to call me a fag tranny SJW whatever for this, but take your post–maybe say "others" instead of "crabs" and "normals" with "allos"–and post it on the AVEN forum. You'll probably get much more helpful replies than here.


>If we wanted to we could replace them with technology and be done with it.

That's what sex bots promised to deliver, but in the end they were just another cope.


What is AVEN?


I have zero interest in tits or vagina.However I get extremely aroused looking at penises and nice male asses it's a bigger plus if they have a dad bod.


I dont know if you are trolling but I have the same problem and it makes me hate myself


Why hate it embrace it.


never knowing if you're a real wizard or just a reclusive fag


Forum for asexuals. If you Google "AVEN forum" it should come up.


they are usually filled with females


It's a biological urge. It's akin to hunger or thirst. "Thirsty" is literally slang word based on its approximation to an irresistible urge.
If you don't have the urge, you are legitimately genetically defective in the truest nonjudgemental sense of the term.
If you can't understand this, you are retarded.


Look up evolution and natural selection on wikipedia


basically all of whom were fucked


Yeah, the usual story from them is "I am asexual and dont like sex but I have it with my husband to make him happy :)"


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If makeup got banned for a year, most men would find most succubi absolutely hideous


I've never heard the term 'genetic deficiency' given such a positive spin before.


You get opium released in your brain for reproducing.
That is it, and that is the only reason to ever do anything other than read books and jack off.


That would be an understaement.
In animal world it's the males who are more beautiful.
Same thing with humans. It's just we're thinking as humans and we're thinking with our dicks, ofc we say succubi are more attractive from a subjective standpoint but it's not the case when we inspect it objectively.
Men are taller, stronger, smarter and have better skin than succubi.
A succubus's looks start fading roughly after 30, a well kept man can maintain his youthful looks till 40.
The only downside is balding but you know, put on a wig on an older guy and they'll look young again.


Doubt. Hear me out. The relative market place value of females in relationships is significantly higher than males. Strictly speaking, succubi can demand more and men are forced to demand less. Where do you think sexual fetishes come from? Have you ever noticed that females literally have no special fetishes besides vanilla powerplay shit like BSDM? Meanwhile, males have developed an enormous repertoire of fetishes which cover every kind of defective or subpar female. This is an adaptive coping mechanism for males to increase the bang for their buck on the relationship market by forcing themselves to be attracted to any kind of female that's available. If makeup was banned for a year and succubi were forbidden to beautify themselves by any means, I would strongly bet that this would not effect the desires of normies.


You think too much about it. It just feels good and that is why people do it. Simple. Both the physical part and the emotional part give you huge amounts of pleasure. You are a wizard because you prefer peace to pleasure or you simply focus on other kinds of pleasures.


Reasons man


Sex is a deeply embedded instinctual urge, where our body tells us to reproduce and pass on our genetic code. Unfortunately this is being abused by media outlets as a way of destabilising society, hence we find a steadily increasing amount of single mothers who are financially dependent on the goverment, high divorce rates due to cheating and the spread of stds. Most promiscious people tend to look hollow and souless, it's in their eyes.


I don't see the difference


Say I was gay in denial. How would I actually know? Because I wonder.
I like succubi visually, well enough, but what I really like is masculine succubi. I have to ask if I'm not repressing something, sometimes.


ideally the succubus who has the same worldview as this one specific man is the ideal partner, so it fosters this specific kind of friendship that would only be found amongst males, but IMO that never happens, i don't know why
normgroids just want to stick it in and then move on, that gives them a garbage succubus they have to deal with for the rest of their lives, or until someone decides to move out, because honestly, that situation is unbearable


sounds reasonable…

i am very much into sex as i deflected a death curse into me, once.
this is why i am obsessed in part.
i got rid of most, already. but not all, yet. such as the sex part. which drains a lot of energy.


you are gay in denial.
all are gay in denial.
i mean.. this is sth most try to tell you.
but point is…
i tried.
and thus i know.
and also i met a succubus who took hormones and now looks like a man.
i can tell for sure:
i am attracted to succubi.
but see…
just a tiny bit of a possibility…
is always given…
so we all are gay in denial.

in addition to that i had charged a sigil a few years ago, making sure, i was heterosexual and so forth.
pretty much confirmed heterosexual here.


Sounds like you're asexual, anon. Which is completely okay and more common than it might seem.
I'll try to explain it from the perspective of someone that does have sexual desires. The personality of a person and/or their looks makes me want them in a similar way that most people might want a sweet treat or to play a really fun video game. it's not something that I need to do with them to feel satisfied in life, but it seems like it'd be a really nice bonus thing to do that. Like, a luxury of sorts.
I hope that helps.


>it's a bigger plus if they have a dad bod.
ew, why chubby guys?


There's a lot of contributing factors, but I think it's primarily a socialization thing. Unfortunately, you can't discuss this anywhere without the word gay being thrown around, which always completely derails the conversation.


well sex is always portrayed as amazing in movies and stuff. im guessing it just feels good

relationships are just because normalfags get lonely


It's just an impulse to normies. There is no why.
We're the same, in a way, just with a different impulse. No one starts in a neutral state and then performs a logical analysis to conclude that the best course of action is avoiding relationships. We just feel better (or at least less bad) alone, and so it's how we instinctively behave. You might come up with rationalizations after the fact, but you didn't need them to make the choice you did.

Humans run almost entirely off vague impulses. There aren't really "reasons" people do most stuff that you can sum up in a coherent paragraph.


>there is no why
That's just a copout people use to avoid having to ask difficult questions.


Humans can't actually rise above those things. That's like rising above wanting to eat food.


ive noticed a majority of the normalfags i talk to about succubi have insane delusions RE: female hobbies and interests.
they think they can get a hole that really loves anime, really loves the same video games, can relax and have a drink with the boys, etc.

of course later on you meet this succubus and it's all fanfiction. she's got the mental processing capability of a rodent and hasn't really consumed any media of any kind in like 10 years+.

normalfags basically have hallucinations wherein succubi make intelligent remarks and enjoy manly activities. it's why they love succubi so much, it's psychosis. heterosexuality should be treated like a mental illness if you ask me.


It's not psychosis, it's just their dick doing the thinking for them.
>heterosexuality should be treated like a mental illness if you ask me.
I'm not even sure how to respond to this.


it's a hallucinated fictitious event where succubi are outwitting them in conversations and beating them at fighting games. the dick being the source (lol) of the hallucination is irrelevant.


>the fact that we can always rise above being an animal
This fact is only reserved autists, wizards, monks and such.


Humans can, but not normalfags.


i think it is a combination of:
- inability to quench the feeling of loneliness through entertainment media
- 0 mental trauma related to socializing or being close with someone else

in other words, a wiz is a wiz because they don't usually feel lonely and they would rather be by themselves either way


Well it's all related to hormones and physiology, or like that other wiz said it's not being gay or having some asexual tier disorder.

Relationships I can definitely understand what you mean. I haven't the slightest idea how most men can relate to femaloids on such a level, and most guys I've pressed on the subject online eventually admit they only tolerate their bullshit for pussy so perhaps they consciously know as well. It makes sense when you consider there's practically no common ground between the sexes other than sex and the vast majority of relationships were either arranged, harems, or simply done out of opportunity i.e they lived nearby so "why not?". This is why it always pains me when I happen across a young man (and its almost always young men with these romantic delusions despite mainstream stereotypes of young males being horndogs and females being more "romantic"), the succubus with the emotional depth and compatibility they seek does not exist, and this path will only lead them to misery.

In a way this why I'm somewhat glad talks of celibacy are becoming more common amongst the populace. They may not immediately find the answer, but the discussion is like a rope that'll lead them to the truth.


Lol well said

It's insane the level of delusional headcanon some men have about the nature and psyche of succubi. The hobbies and interests thing is an excellent example.

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