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 No.185405

I'm a 26 year old male from western Canada. It seems that reality has finally caught up with me, and I'm 2 weeks away from being officially homeless.

My parents owe me money, and I'm also owed a significant amount of money from my grandfather's passing several years ago, but my father is the person responsible for carrying out their will. It seems I won't be seeing any of this money anytime soon, and I'm already completely out of cash.

This is what my current plan is:
> Cancel cellphone plan
> Discard/sell unnecessary belongings
> Rent out storage locker for 2-3 months
> Take out loans and max out credit purchasing food, shelter, shoes, warm/athletic clothing, hiking backpack
> Carry 3.5-inch blade for opening packages of meat
> Remain physically fit; shadowboxing, calisthenics, walking/running
> Shower/wash clothes at 24/7 gym
> Travel on foot/wheel or possibly use public transit
> Steal whatever I can get, or dumpster dive
> Break in and lock myself in rooms with my own padlock if I need to sleep

I'm not worried about jail, and I will avoid prison at all costs, but I'm prepared to do whatever I have to do to survive.
Not trying to LARP, just looking for solid, honest advice for surviving the streets from wizzies who may have been in a similar situation.

 No.185409

>>185405
I haven’t tried the storage locker route, but living/sleeping in a car and showering at a cheap 24/7 fitness place worked well enough for a few weeks when I was desperate.

 No.185412

>>185409
Unfortunately I don't have a drivers license, or a car. I'm glad things worked out for you though.

 No.185413

Check out foodbanks, if you can figure out a way to cook beans they have tons of beans and rice among other things. Soak beans for a day before to remove antinutrients.

 No.185414

>>185413
I know there are portable burner stoves you could use to cook/heat up food. I'm not too concerned about food though, but I'll likely do this and see what other resources I have available in my province.

Perhaps staying in a shelter or a mental hospital wouldn't be too bad. If I feel unsafe or if I feel my belongings are at risk of being stolen, I'm under no obligation to stay. I was planning on sneaking in a small razor blade just in case.

 No.185415

Karma finally caught up with you huh you piece of shit

 No.185416

>>185415
What the fuck, man? You don’t know their circumstances, and karma is a silly cope that doesn’t exist.

 No.185417

>>185416
>don't know circumstance
Pretty sure this is the guy that tells wizards to kill themselves on the regular here
>karma is cope
Imagine actually thinking this, that being an evil person would have no consequences.

 No.185419

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I was in a very similar situation this past January. >>>/wiz/177130

26. Dad borrowed a lot of money from me and then fucked off leaving me with the rent I couldn't afford. I took out a credit card and maxed it out buying subzero camping gear and then spent the next 2 months sleeping in the snow and some abandoned buildings. I also have no drivers license and had to throw everything in a storage locker. Sold my PC and some other valuables and was also collecting covidbux too so I didn't have to dumpster dive or anything. I'm also in Canada but the southest part so it was pretty mild, only reaching -30c twice or so.

>Cancel cellphone plan

Don't bother. If it's a major carrier they'll let it get several months unpaid before cutting you off. The worst they can do is send you phone calls on a new number registered with your SIN, which will eventually turn in to robocalls from a collection agency, then they'll give up after a few years. If you'll still be using your bank for transactions, you'll need a phone because they've all been on some 2-step authentication binge lately so you might need to verify a purchase by text even if it's made at a retail store.
>Discard/sell unnecessary belongings
DONATE/sell. Salvation Army, Re-stores, and Value Village will send a tuck to claim anything you don't want. Just tell them you're moving or being deployed overseas or something.
>Take out loans and max out credit purchasing food, shelter, shoes, warm/athletic clothing, hiking backpack
The same with the phone companies, they can't do anything to force you to pay them back so go nuts here. Just research every purchase. Having less than you need+some money is better then having an abundance of things you don't need+broke.
>Carry 3.5-inch blade for opening packages of meat
Several. A small blade in your pants pocket, one in your bag, one on your belt. Never be without access to your blade.
>Remain physically fit; shadowboxing, calisthenics, walking/running
Good mindset, just make sure you're not burning more calories than you're intaking. Get food and then reward yourself with a workout. If you're not accustomed to walking a lot, it will only take a couple days of walking a few KMs each until your feet stop hurting. If that's the case you should begin walking now. cheap slip-on spiked cleats were a godsend.
>Shower/wash clothes at 24/7 gym
If it's any significant amount of money to do this, then consider just sponging off. It's hard to accumulate a bad smell in the winter and even so, learning not to care about it will put you at an advantage. It is important however that you have access to a dryer. A single slip on a mild day can leave you soaked, which could really be bad if your sleeping materials get wet. Try to always be within walking distance of a laundromat and keep enough cash for a heavy load.
>Steal whatever I can get, or dumpster dive
sneaky wiz going CTK mode
>just looking for solid, honest advice for surviving the streets
Avoid the streets. Dangerous people, nosey "good" people, law enforcement.. you won't find them off the beaten path, especially in winter. You can reap the benefits of civilization when up and at em', but when it's time to sleep, you should aim to place as much distance between you and urban life as possible. It makes sleeping a whole lot easier and frankly it's quite liberating being able to just relieve yourself without having to make a trip to some restaurant's bathroom.
>Break in and lock myself in rooms with my own padlock if I need to sleep
I did this a lot, but with abandoned buildings so there was no breaking needed. Just avoid old carpets, breathing over a moldy one for even a few seconds can make your lungs spaz out. You shouldn't have to break in anywhere to sleep though, it's very possible to sleep in the snow with the right gear. The sleeping bag and sleeping pad I have are both rated for -30c, and with an athletic thermal underlayer, thick pants, wool socks, and two sweaters I slept like a baby in the open winter air. Gear up to sleep anywhere and you'll never have to worry about finding a place to crash. A bad sleep can have severe consequences.
Here's the bag and pad I have
https://www.hotcoreproducts.com/products/sleeping-bags/fatboy-400/
https://klymit.com/products/insulated-static-v-sleeping-pad
I also had a scout tent but just ended up laying it down as a tarp. Loose-fitting gloves and a pair of fluffy socks to wear to sleep helps. A jacket stuffed in to the sleeping bag's carrying bag can be used as a pillow. Just note such a sized bag doesn't pack down too tiny. A 70l hiking bag was just enough.

>>185414
Consider how small meal rations are for fighting soldiers. It's all about calories. A Cliff bar, some raw beef, a powerade, and a cheap energy drink can keep even a fatass like me going all day. If your stomach feels empty, hydrate until you don't even want to think about eating. I'd get some less-fresh on sale stewing beef, granola, and sports drinks and then keep them in my sleeping bag to prevent them from freezing. A can of dollar store stew, with all its salt and preservatives, is great when you've been walking in the snow all day and it won't freeze easily. Cooking anything isn't necessary, but having a pot to boil water in if you come across some pork or chicken while dumpster diving will be a bonus. Don't meme yourself in to carrying a kettle, frying pan, little cups etc. A small titanium pot does all.
>Perhaps staying in a shelter or a mental hospital wouldn't be too bad. If I feel unsafe or if I feel my belongings are at risk of being stolen, I'm under no obligation to stay.

Contact a shelter now to arrange for a room to sleep in if you're concerned about staying warm. There are typically waiting lists and even if you get in, it's not like subsidized housing or anything. All the shelters in south Ontario aren't really "shelters" but old hotels where they cram 3-4 hobos per room and they're on a reverse curfew so they have to be out on the streets for half the day. Many of these shelter services offer free meals, toiletries, and other necessities like socks and laundry services daily so getting registered with them let you bank in on that. Not sure what mental hospitals have to offer but I do know that like jailhouses they keep those who are at risk to others, those who are at risk to themselves, and those who pose no risk separate, so as long as you don't go in there claiming to be suicidal or r9k they won't bunk you with dudes who you'll need to defend yourself from. Also, if your province has any kind of welfare, apply for it while you still have an address. They'll give you money even if you're $40k in debt and won't even track what you spend it on. They might ask for a few months of bank statements but that's just to see if you're not transferring money overseas or to another bank. Christmas checks are given out early in some provinces.
>I was planning on sneaking in a small razor blade just in case.
Cringe, don't believe those Hollywood shows about how hard and gangster prison life is. Nobody's going to shank you for looking at them wrong in the social anxiety ward of Breezy Acres Mental Retreat For The Vulnerable. Even if some deranged tard hits you during one of his fits, the apologetic medical system in this country will pay out the ass to keep you from suing them or something.
>Not trying to LARP
Being able to LARP as some vagabond pioneer in a wasteland of braindead automatons is the best part of homelessness though

sorry if this post is disorganized

 No.185420

Why not just get a job?

 No.185421

>>185420
Uuuh because jobs suck? A homeless NEET sleeping in the snow has more potential to be cozy, comfy, clear of mind and right of body than any wageslave living in a house. OP said he can't drive so that limits his work options and as a fellow Canadian I can say for certain that housing costs in anywhere within walking distance of a job requiring no prior work experiences will be through the roof. He'll be taxed 20% making minimum, even full time that's $1600/m which in urban Western or Eastern Canada won't land him a place of his own.

 No.185423

>>185405
Tell your parents your situation, and if you can move back for a few months.

 No.185424

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>>185415
>>185417
You're delusional if you think you know who I am based off a couple sentences of text and some generic information.

>>185419
Eerie how similar our situations are, although I didn't think mine was unique.
> A single slip on a mild day can leave you soaked, which could really be bad if your sleeping materials get wet.
I hadn't actually considered this, I'll definitely keep it in mind. Good shout.
> Avoid the streets. Dangerous people, nosey "good" people, law enforcement.
I haven't trusted anybody since I was 9. I don't have any experience with this stuff though, I'm just a nerd who happens to be going through what will likely be one of the most challenging times of my life.
> Contact a shelter now to arrange for a room
I will do this, although it seems like an even less appealing option. This does change how I will approach the situation though. I'll be very careful about what I say.
As far as applying for govt assistance goes; I'm really bad at this. For some reason I don't care, even though I really should.
> don't believe those Hollywood shows about how hard and gangster prison life is
I'm not scared, but I am very cautious. It seemed like a low risk option considering a razor could be easily concealed within the body, but I'll likely leave it out.
> sorry if this post is disorganized
No problem wiz. I really appreciate how much detail you provided here, and I'll be saving it for future reference. This stuff is potentially life saving, thank you for your help.

>>185420
There are plenty of reasons why somebody wouldn't be able to "just get a job", and I'm surprised you even assumed I'm employable.
I'm not able to use those excuses myself, as I was simply a person who procrastinated a bit too long. Nobody else to blame but myself, although I am owed over $100k CAD if that helps your understand my perspective.

>>185423
Trust me they already know my situation, just not everyone has a supportive family.
Whenever I even think about moving back in with my parents, all I can hear is my father screaming at me threatening to throw me out of the house in the freezing rain with my mother crying. I'd rather be homeless.

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 No.185428

>>185421
>>185424
Find out the hard way I guess.

Just remember when things start getting hard and you hit what you think is rock bottom only to realize it can only get worse, that you chose this. That you thought doing whatever you had to to get a job stay off the street was too hard, too painful, so you rather run the streets. Hopefully that thought brings you comfort since it will be so much harder to turn back and turn your life around once your on the street with nothing of value to your name.

And yeah I am speaking from experience. Being homeless isn't comfy, isn't a fun time, and isn't wizardly or whatever dumb meme you are telling yourself.
Shit fucking sucks harder then few things else. Was the worst time of my life. It didn't break me because I was strong both body and mind, but I seen hundreds of other street people who weren't so fortunate to start off strong. The streets broke them. Body mind and spirit. So you have to ask yourself are you strong? How much can you actually endure? Can you preserve in the face of suffering and hopelessness?
I guess you are going to find out. I can worn against doing this but you apparently made up you mind. I wish you luck, and that you will find enough kindness out where you are to sustain you.

My last bit of advice is when you get sick of running the streets, go somewhere where they value hard work and have a low cost of living. I heard they got oil and logging jobs. Might be something to look into.
Also stay the fuck away from addictive shit. DON'T DO IT!
You would be better off ending it now the going on the streets and getting hooked on something. I can't express how dead serious I am about that. Shit will be worse than death living like that.

 No.185432

>>185405
Try to find a job that offers housing. In the meantime, panhandle often until you have enough cash to buy some form of shelter. That's the only advice I can give.

Good luck, hobo wiz.

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>>185428
I'm sorry to hear you suffered, and I'll more than likely suffer as well, regardless of what decision I make. Being homeless isn't my only option, and I don't think it's the easier one either. It's hard for me to say which the best choice is to make right now, especially since I'm under a tremendous load of stress, and have been on several different mood-affecting medications recently.

I appreciate your concern though wiz, although I don't think you and I are alike at all. I don't expect this lifestyle to be comfy, but I do like the idea of being in control of my own freedom, even if that could result in my freedom being taken away.

As far as 'running the streets' goes; this is not my intention, and I do plan on looking for work in the near future. I don't intend on relying on anyone, and I don't make friends with anybody. Also, I study computer science, I can't do these roughneck oil/logging jobs, even if that's what my country is known for.

It's good advice to stay away from drugs in general. I've known plenty of addicts since I completed a 12-step rehab program (even though I was there for cannabis, lol). I can't really see myself getting addicted to anything else, since cannabis is already unbelievably cheap here (I buy in bulk for $20/oz which lasts me around 3-4 weeks). Thanks for the concern though, it's refreshing to hear.

>>185432
I've briefly considered WWOOF, but that stuff doesn't really feel like me. Maybe it could be good to do something I haven't done before though for the sake of new experiences.

I can't see myself panhandling. Perhaps I have too much pride to be a hobo, but that's not exactly what I'd call myself. Thank you for your advice though, and best of luck to you as well.

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 No.185438

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>>185437
I'll spend some time reading this over. Thanks for the well wishes, and I hope the best for you as well.

 No.185439

I'm gonna be real, the most realistic solution to your predicament is to become a wage slave and rent some shitty apartment somewhere. Being homeless sucks. Not having money all the time sucks. I would say the one realistic reason to become homeless is as a play to show your parents that you're not going to just become a wage slave if they kick you out with the aim of getting them to eventually take you back in and continue supporting your life as a neet. If you must be homeless, sure as shit don't do it in Canada during the winter. Move your ass on down south and fuck around on public land for the winter then go back home and try to find a job if your parents still haven't caved by then.

 No.185442

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>>185439
This is the eventual idea. I've done it before, and will likely have to work another job before I can do what I really want to do for work. My father wants the money that I'm inheriting to be spent on a down payment on an apartment. I feel 2 weeks isn't enough time to sort things out though, given how close I've cut things.

My parents don't support me, and haven't supported me ever since I became an adult. I've been paying for everything (school, rent, food) with my own money that I saved up from wageslaving. I haven't lived with my parents for several years, and don't plan to ever again.

Are you from Canada? The climate is fairly mild where I'm from since I'm not far from the border. It's very possible that I'm underestimating the cold, but I figure with enough layers of clothing + sleeping bag + tent + external heat sources it wouldn't be too bad.

My goal isn't to 'try and get my parents to cave'. I tried my best to explain everything as plainly as I could to them, and at this point I'm done trying. I'll be going no contact with my father, and I'll limit contact with my mom but I still want to keep her in my life somehow.

 No.185446

OP, why don't you just learn to do something online? Draw, code, design, whatever. There are opportunities around. Obviously you need to learn, but that shouldn't be a problem.
I know you're short on time. But you still can do something.

 No.185447

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>>185446
This is actually my passion. I do software development (programming, UX/UI), web/graphic design, marketing, and lots of other comp-sci stuff. There's always more to learn, but for me it's more a matter of taking what I've learned and putting it on a portfolio. I'm working on my resume/portfolio right now, and I've made some really good progress. I even registered my own domain which I'll link to my github to.

The only problem is, I have 2 weeks to: finish my resume, portfolio, send it out, wait for a response, reply and set up an interview, start working, and receive a paycheck within 2 weeks. It's just not my #1 priority right now, and it's hard to even think about right now when I have all this added stress and craziness going on in my life.

 No.185455

>>185447
Do odd jobs and gig work while you wait for responses from the companies you actually want to work with.
It's not like what you are currently doing is taking up 12 hours a day. Plus having actual real world work experience looks way better to a employer anyway. Even if its just polished up gig work on fiver or something.

 No.185458

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>>185455
What kind of odd jobs did you have in mind? I don't particularly like the idea of having to rely on other people. I want to work for myself, not for any company unless it's my own.

My only experience with Fiverr (or any service like it), was paying some succubi from a 3rd world country $15 for hours of her time doing character artwork. Doesn't seem like a viable way to make a living considering how expensive it is to live where I'm from.

 No.185460

>>185458
You seem really picky for someone who is about to be homeless.

 No.185461

>>185460
he is and has no street sense.
>>185458
invest your money in drugs and resell them to make money so you can eat what you want and even stay in a motel room or something.
Steal from the store and sell that shit on the street.
do this while trying to get an actual job.

you cant be picky

 No.185464

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>>185460
Some suggestions would have been helpful, not trying to be picky. I'm willing to put up with a temporary job until I can get my life more stable.

>>185461
> he is and has no street sense
Never claimed to be street smart, but would like an example of why you thought this.
> invest your money in drugs and resell them to make money so you can eat what you want and even stay in a motel room or something.
Your advice is "invest your money in drugs and resell them", and you think I'm the one without street sense? Have you ever even sold drugs before? What makes you think any of this is a good idea?

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>>185464
>Never claimed to be street smart, but would like an example of why you thought this.
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>Your advice is "invest your money in drugs and resell them"
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>and you think I'm the one without street sense?
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>What makes you think any of this is a good idea?

 No.185470

>>185447
Working a 9-5 while homeless is possible. If you do end up finding a good safe place to camp and keep your belongings secure, then getting up every morning and leaving for work shouldn't be much of a worry. If it's an easy indoor job that you're comfortable doing, then you can just see it as being payed to stay in a warm building for much of the day, with free drinking water and other utilities. But by all means take it easy for the first little while. Getting comfortable with sleeping out of doors is top priority, and once you're confident you can get a good night's rest every night, start taking small steps to landing a job. Aim high and cushy and hen work your way down, the job market in this country is all kinds of messed up right now. If you end up losing time on your storage unit, just curb your pride and panhandle for an afternoon or two. Normalfags will throw coins in to a mall fountain to make themselves feel good, you'll be doing them a favour letting them help someone with their pocket change.

>>185465
I haven't seen someone interpret "street sense" as "how to be a big fat nigger and go to prison" in a while. Go on, justify even a little how dealing drugs is a good idea for an unsocial wizard down on his luck. Remember he's from Canada, not Mexico. Street sense is knowing how to avoid people like you.

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>>185470
I'll try to look for work, and I'm fairly confident that I could find something fairly quick, I just don't really know how it will go with my current mental state. Maybe it could be good for me to develop a routine and build some stability.

I doubt I'll be able to make much money panhandling if I don't 'look' homeless, and I worry that it might bring more problems than it's worth. I'd be willing to try it if I have to though.

 No.185509

>>185464
>Your advice is "invest your money in drugs and resell them", and you think I'm the one without street sense? Have you ever even sold drugs before? What makes you think any of this is a good idea?


They seem to have a lot of bling in the movies

 No.185512

Doesn't it get freezing cold in Canada? You might wanna take a bus to Florida or California before you lose digits to frostbite.

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>>185509
No kidding. Just in case any wiz mistakes this for good advice; selling drugs are a good way to get robbed, and generally attracts the wrong kind of attention. It's not a good career choice for any wiz, and it's a huge risk for the money you're making (not a whole lot). It's basically just social networking, business and street smarts, none of which come common to most wizards.
This is all assuming, however, that you don't get addicted yourself and use up your entire stash. Or get caught by the police. Lots can go wrong here, not a lot can go right.

>>185512
Canada is a big place, and it certainly does get colder the further north you go. I'm about as far south as you can get, and I've lived here all my life, so I'm fairly used to the climate. There's a good chance I could be underestimating the cold, but I figured I could get fairly comfy with adequate layers of thermal clothing and a sleeping bag.

 No.185518

>>185516
So you are confident you can handle the cold but not that you could handle a mediocre job just to pay the bills.

 No.185519

>>185518
I didn't mean to come across as confident. Make no mistake, I feel very scared and alone. I'm just used to the weather here, and it's probably not what you'd expect (after all, you don't even know my exact location).

If you read my previous responses, you'd know I have worked several mediocre jobs in the past 'just to pay the bills'. I'm still willing to work, I just don't think it's helpful to tell me to get a job, without at least giving me some constructive advice (like what kind of things to do for work?).

 No.185521

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>>185519
Why not be a truck driver? I hear there is a massive shortage

 No.185523

>>185521
Did you read the thread? I don't even have a drivers license.

I'm sure there is a massive shortage, self driving trucks will replace their jobs in under 5 years. It doesn't seem like a bad job though, just one that probably should have been automated ages ago.

 No.185525

>>185523
>self driving trucks will replace their jobs in under 5 years.
Just like auto-pilot replaced all those pilots years ago…Oh wait that didn't happen because that isn't how any of this works.
There will still be humans needed to drive trucks 40 years from now.

 No.185526

>>185525
I also believe that, but I'm sure one of the motivations behind self-driving cars is to make truck drivers lose their job, since if they ever get into a strike, it stops the whole country, its economy and corporations can't accept that.

 No.185529

>>185525
I didn't really mean to change topics of this thread, but since I did open this can of worms; I'll bite.

> There will still be humans needed to drive trucks 40 years from now.

I'm not denying this, I just think there will be far less of them on the road in 40 years. It's possible that we could be seeing less trucks on the road in general, if we begin using things similar to drones for small-package delivery.
There will always be humans doing things that machines are capable of doing better, and often times the product is marketed specifically for that reason. The main reason I think most truck drivers will be replaced isn't because humans are horrible at their job, but mainly due to the fact that they need breaks and sleep. I'd imagine productivity could be doubled or even tripled simply by removing breaks/sleep.

>>185526
> I'm sure one of the motivations behind self-driving cars is to make truck drivers lose their job, since if they ever get into a strike, it stops the whole country.
This is why I believe there's more incentive to automate self-driving cars rather than planes.
It's really not any less efficient for airliners to use human pilots, since the planes need to stop at major hubs while they are being loaded with human passengers.
Human pilots in planes already aren't being used in war as far as I'm aware.

 No.185541

>>185529
>I'm not denying this, I just think there will be far less of them on the road in 40 years. It's possible that we could be seeing less trucks on the road in general, if we begin using things similar to drones for small-package delivery.

That's bull. Any level of autonomy in vehicles is still going to take a long time to implement, at least due to legal reasons if nothing else. And even when that happens what you'll see is just a gradual reduction in numbers of truckers needed.

Thinking that truck drivers will be obsolete within 5 years is reddit elon musk tier midwitism.

 No.185546

>>185526
Stopping strikes is only a minor part of it.

The only genuine reason is that it's cheaper to operate a driverless truck, it needs no pension or 401k deposits, it needs no restroom breaks or food.
It makes a human redundant.

Not all automated jobs will be replaced with new ones.

There will need to be basic income in the future or people will need to steal for livelihood once truck drivers, Amazon warehouse workers, McDonald's workers, Walmart cashiers etc. all become useless.

People don't realize how good we have it now, for yet a few more decades.
True dystopia and mass unemployment due to automation will only unravel after every poster in this thread is either dead or too old to care anymore, in ~2050s to 2070s.

 No.185548

>>185546
We'll revert back to primitive survival instinct before long. It's already happening in some cities that have issues with poverty. This is what our overlords want.

 No.185611

>>185405
Food, drink and shelter. If somehow you can maintain your health, these three things will keep you alive until natural causes take you. I speak with no hands-on experience of being homeless, but I have given it thought before due to being a long-term neet fearful of being turfed out finally after many years.

Food - As others have said, it is a good idea to get to foodbanks, homeless shelters at every opportunity. You break no law going to these and can most likely meet others with whom can trade information with, if preferable. If you don't have these resources available to you, any bins around food business will dispose of large quantities of food waste. If this is a takeaway or shop you can expect most, if not all waste to be uneaten. For hygeine reasons alone this should be where to aim for. If the bins are locked, you should consider these a last resort as you will be breaking the law and making yourself a nuisance to the owners. If you break a lock, and the business is required by law to keep the bins locked (this is the case in many parts of the world to keep rodents down) then you are now costing them money and risking them getting into trouble. Don't forget that charity can be found if you approach a business in the right way. Asking at the end of the day if any spares are available may be met favourably if you look the part and aren't objectionably smelly, grotesque-looking, interfering with regular shop business. Almost certainly if there are any customers around, you would be shooed out of there rapidly. Moreover, should you find anyone who is charitable, don't milk it. Ideally this would be a long-term resource that you can fall back on. It would be important to try to maximise your chances of a meal by making an efficient path to follow. Depending on what day of the week it is, this may change up to cater to different business practices - Baker clears bread products each evening, sugary products on the friday, for example. Perhaps a larger shop clears its inventory daily when the business sees the least business during the daytime at some unusual hour. You'll have to scope out routines and perhaps trade this information.

Drink - Providing you are ok drinking from bathroom taps (let's assume it is safe to do so in your country), you shouldn't run into many problems quenching your thirst. However it is important to remember that fruit juices contain masses of calories and will help with your health no end. If you are able to find small coffee shops and cafes and the like, they might make up fresh batches each day and toss any leftovers. Along with owners usually being pretty left-wing, you should look for the trendier establishments - the jackpot being 'organic' and 'environmentally friendly'. You should, however, avoid contact with younger succubi and succubi who may see you as a threat/creepy/gross. This is especially true for ones that look pretty or extroverted. Shyer succubi might still see you as a threat, but I would imagine they are less likely to speak out and gossip about your presence, and maybe are more likely to empathise with a fellow 'outcast', as they may see it. Alcohol is also a high calorie resource, however it would be better to avoid consumption as you're essentially guaranteed to become an alcoholic. Unless of course this is factored into your plan. No doubt it would be a desirable resource for a little trade at a soup kitchen. Another point concerns support groups. While food isn't always served at support groups, tea and coffee and other such beverages are. On a cold night this may be of some comfort, but still worth investigating in a regular routine.

Shelter - This appears to be the hardest thing to get right, in the winter months at least. If there is some way of grouping up with others, you may gain from safety in numbers and learn of good spots. Whether there's an expected tax on premium locations, I would assume it depends on the group and the place. Finding places to sleep on your own inevitably increases danger, but you're more than likely safe providing you pick places that people would have no reason to go to. Industrial estates may have security, personel and cameras, but if this can be circumvented you are likely to find a warm corner. some air ducts or air conditioning units will be a source of heat. However minimal, all these locations should be made note of. I don't know about shelters, but from what I've heard you are often safer on the streets. Drug dealers prey on people in shelters and this will be an expense you shouldn't lose any money with. If you are drinking alcohol, be aware that it will give the impression of being much warmer than you really are. This is how homeless freeze to death. Supposedly it's not a bad way to go, but I'd like to believe wizzies would avoid this. I own a WW2 replica coat that made me realise just how absurdly warm a woolen lining is, but I doubt it you will be able to pick and choose too much with clothing. Remember that polyester/cotton weaves are used in pretty cheap loungewear trousers and hooded tops, and surprisingly good at stopping the wind getting through to your skin. Multiple layers is always ideal. It's very easy to put a shemagh on which you can fashion from any kind of large, thin cloth and will keep your head and face extremely warm. Other than that, multiple layers and hoard -any and all- footwear. Find a place to stash it all. Your most important possession will be what you have on your feet.

 No.185613

>>185548
"Our overlords" (read: People with the most money) just want to live large in their mansions and palaces while ensuring you don't get shit.

There is no deeper or more sinister motive behind it. No conspiracy, no plan.

That's all this planet boils down to:
A small group of people wanting to live easy and lavish while pulling up the ladder and making sure others can't do the same.

Just a bunch of apes wanting to live as if they are in an amusement park all their lives while the rest of you are the janitors cleaning up their mess and picking up the tab.

 No.185614

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>>185611
> it is a good idea to get to foodbanks, homeless shelters at every opportunity
I'm not entirely convinced that homeless shelters are a good idea. Seems like the right way to meet the wrong people, I really can't see anyone having my best interest in mind, even if we have a mutually beneficial relationship. I wouldn't be surprised if they took the very first opportunity they got to (try to) rob me. I plan to sleep as far away from humans as possible, and if anybody comes near me they could be severe trouble.
> any bins around food business will dispose of large quantities of food waste
I've worked at groceries stores before, and this is good advice. I was considering stopping by around closing time and asking for any of the food they still had on display before it was to be donated.
> you should look for the trendier establishments - the jackpot being 'organic' and 'environmentally friendly'
Haha, I hadn't considered this, but it seems like it could work. I'll definitely give this a shot.
> avoid contact with younger succubi and succubi who may see you as a threat/creepy/gross
Can't say I'll have much trouble with this one. I don't have a hard time blending in, and it's important to me that I don't 'look' homeless. Maybe over the course of several months that could easily change, but I will always put effort in to my appearance if not just to prevent trouble with the cops.
> Another point concerns support groups. While food isn't always served at support groups, tea and coffee and other such beverages are
I've been inside those rooms many times during the 3/4-month stay I had at a 12-step rehab center. It may be a good idea to visit them, as the people there actually do want to help. I could even try to get a government bed at a rehab center for several months. They are quite cozy, cook 3 delicious hot meals a day, and will set you up with a plan after you complete the program.
> you may gain from safety in numbers and learn of good spots
This doesn't make sense to me. The safest and best spots aren't shared with others, why on earth would they be? I could see some high-traffic spots in public being safe and good for panhandling/sleeping, but I'd also imagine they would be competitive, and wouldn't want any unfamiliar faces in their territory.
> Industrial estates may have security, personel and cameras
Cameras are no longer relevant in the modern climate of COVID-19. I already walk around anonymously, so the only thing I'd have to worry about is being caught and physically detained. I wear active clothing, and staying in peak physical condition should allow me to outrun most people. I should also practice climbing, hopping fences, and basic strength training.
> Drug dealers prey on people in shelters and this will be an expense you shouldn't lose any money with.
No they don't. Drug dealers, by definition, sell drugs. They aren't going out of their way to fuck with and rob homeless people. This doesn't even make any fucking sense lmao, would would you rob the most dangerous people on the planet, with the least amount of money? Do you seriously think there are people going around trying to rob homeless people for their change cups? It's the other homeless people/addicts doing that shit, and I will be very cautious of them.
> I own a WW2 replica coat that made me realise just how absurdly warm a woolen lining is
I'll definitely keep this in mind. I plan to check out the local salvation army, and possibly an army surplus store for coats and jackets. Multiple layers of thermal clothing underneath should keep me dry and warm, and I'll make sure to always have dry clothes in a waterproof bag I can access in case mine somehow get wet. A scarf is good for keeping warm, and protecting your neck from slash/stab wounds. I'd like to get some expensive gloves too that will keep my hands warm without sacrificing too much dexterity.
> Your most important possession will be what you have on your feet.
I'm glad I've kept all of my shoes and boots. This shouldn't be an issue to me, although I wouldn't mind boosting a new pair of runners.

 No.185620

>>185613
You're being naive, material pleasures are only one reason why people hoard wealth. Power and influence are other common reasons. A lot of these people think of themselves as gods and want to shape humanity/earth in their vision. George Soros is an example of an elite who obviously has other motivations than just staying rich.

 No.185659

>>185412
Thanks

 No.185663

>>185620
Without money those people are just old decrepit corpses.

Hence again, everything boils down to money. The world is an extremely boring place.

 No.185682

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>>185614
>This doesn't make sense to me. The safest and best spots aren't shared with others, why on earth would they be?
pic and however many thousands of other examples of cuntery related. Unless you're able to go and camp out in the countryside, if you meet any nice people in an urban setting, stay with the nice people. Simple as that.
>They aren't going out of their way to fuck with and rob homeless people
There's no mention of robbing or fucking with in that post. It is a matter of coersion/persuasion and getting acquainted with an active criminal, which is one of the worse ideas if you are trying to stay off the radar. I worked with two moonlighting dealers who were mirror images of this complex, and they are to be avoided at all costs. You seem somewhat defensive about this topic which is of no issue if you intend to purchase some product from a dealer, but I don't think the reality of the trade should be overlooked. Also, of course you'll want to avoid homeless users, this goes without saying. They're all batshit insane once they are out of sauce.

 No.185710

>>185682
We don't have many blacks where I'm from in Canada. Mostly asians, some indian gangs. I'm not defensive about this topic, I've already mentioned several times that I don't plan on making friends with any human beings (that includes buying drugs from them).



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