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 No.189276[Last 50 Posts]

Wizardry and the black pill

What is the correlation of being a wizard and being ugly? Does a handsome wizard exist or it's impossible? What's the wizard consensus?

 No.189277

Wizardry has nothing to do with capability to attract a mate, but only the decisions and contentedness of the virgin man. There are ugly men who can not have sex if they tried, and there are attractive men who others really want to have sex with. If either one is a virgin and is OK with that, and does not try to have sex, then he is a wizard.

 No.189278

I'm not particularly handsome but I have had interest from succubi over the years, especially in highschool when you saw the same people daily.

I'm a 32 year old wizard.

 No.189279

Contrary to what one would assume, in my almost 10 years of using wizard/wizchan everyone that I've managed to see a photo of looks pretty normal, unlike the ridiculous goblins you see at reddit/4chan meetup photos who are definitely not virgins, so I don't think there is any correlation at all. Wizardry is a mindset not an appearance

 No.189282

Most wizards I've met look average. There's no blackpill I'm afraid.

 No.189284

Being ugly has nothing to do with whether succubi want you or not. Plenty of ugly normalfags have gfs or wives. It's always been about money and power for succs.

Handsome wizards can exist, because if you are some kind of autist or schizo then your looks won't help you at all. Womyn want a normal bf, not a weirdo.

 No.189285

>>189284
The thing men don't understand is that succubi always have a dual motivation for wanting a guy. On the one hand, there's the sexual and intimate aspect, where being good looking is important, but they also want a guy with resources, money, power and the ability to give them the life they want. Dudes just want someone to fuck and be intimate with, rarely is there a motivation beyond that, hence why men are usually simpler when it comes to relationships.

That's why betabux is a thing. succubi either bored of sex with hot guys or realize they can't have it all and then settle down with someone that can afford them a reasonable lifestyle. Then they might cheat cuz the guy isn't satisfying sexually despite being a great husband.

The dream for them is basically both being sexually attractive and having money, power and social influence. The problem is that the rare guys that are anywhere near that kind of sexual market value will be aware of it and will never settle down, so succubi are basically doomed to be unhappy, either getting pumped and dumped or marrying some bald guy that's a good father but can't make them cum to save his life.

 No.189286

I think being ugly might make it more likely to be outcasted. But that's all I can really say about that. Being a wizard has nothing inherently to do with appearance, and i'd assume most wizards are pretty average.

 No.189288

Attractive wizards don’t exist. People start off as a blank slate, and their behavior is molded through interactions with people as well as societal institutions. Attractive people have positive experiences with other people, which reinforces their desire to socialize. Unattractive people have negative experiences with human interaction, which causes them to avoid it. Furthermore, attractive people are much more successful than unattractive people in their careers. Studies show that attractive people will earn hundreds of thousands more than unattractive people over the course of their lives. Someone who earns less and has a shittier job and life In general is more likely to drop out and be a neet wiz than someone who has success with interacting with the system.

TLDR: People are literally just pavlovs dogs. Attractive wizards don’t exist

 No.189291

>>189288

I think if you're a wizard, it's likely not just looks but also having really crappy social interactions at some point and then reacting to those bad interactions by withdrawing to an extreme degree. I fall into that and while I wouldn't describe myself as attractive, I'm not the ugliest guy in the room. I just reacted to being treated badly by pulling away from the world and it never seemed like a good decision to try to seriously re-engage with it.

 No.189292

>>189276
It's the halo effect, an ugly person will be generally be judged unfavorably in other aspects as well.

 No.189293

>>189288
>People are Blank slate

No, never heard about twin studies ?

 No.189294

>>189285
Succs don't desire sex, basically they have no sex drive like we do. They can do fine if they go without orgasm for a long time. What they want is intimacy and feeling that they are wanted by some ultra alpha male. However, I am sure by observing people that the main reason behind how they choose a male is power/wealth/social status, all these 3 are closely related most of the time.

Men want sex and intimacy-romance.
Succubi want a comfortable life above all, for themselves and their children. Then comes the need for romance. And lastly the need for sex.

Wo-men want providers and protectors, not some pretty boy who has x packs of muscles but has no money and is a meek guy. I can't believe how some people still misunderstand succs, especially here.

>>189288
Completely wrong, being attractive for males doesn't matter as much as being charismatic/aggressive, confident and well…strong.

>>189291
I have okay social skills, my thing is that I'm way too sensitive I guess. I retreat from society because it pains me to be around others. I have anger issues and I am prone to lethargy, in short my feelings are much stronger than other people's. I am too passionate to be a member of society, I can't function normally because if I don't want to do something then I don't do it, if I hate someone then I won't do what he/she says and won't suck up to them. I am way too honest and innocent.

 No.189295

>>189294
a lot of what you say just flies in the face of reality. succubi love the pretty boy twinks who are the antithesis of masculity. my sister once questioned me why i work out because she said succubi dont like muscles now, they like the skinny pretty boys

 No.189296

>>189294
>Wo-men want providers and protectors, not some pretty boy who has x packs of muscles but has no money and is a meek guy.

They want both, at different times and for different reasons, was my point. I don't think you could reduce female psychology to just having a power or resource fetish. Also, the whole idea that succubi don't desire sex is retarded. They don't have the same kind of drive, I agree, but they can still get horny and love getting dicked.

A cute guy with a nice body that happens to be broke is still good for having sex, while the jewish businessman husband is good for social status, taking care of her kids and having money. It's not either/or, obviously succubi aren't single minded like men where they want sex and intimacy, and can have complex reasons for being with specific men, that don't have anything to do with sexual attraction.

>I can't believe how some people still misunderstand succs, especially here.


Reminder that we're on a virgin forum and none of us have actually interacted with females in any meaningful way (hopefully). All these theories are great, but if you knew what succubi wanted, you'd be winning the game already. Reminds me of those schmucks that love talking about the perfect golf swing and all of them have their own theory, "oh its about the shoulders", "no you idiots its all about the legs" and so on.

 No.189297

>>189296
A good golf swing is all in the wrists

 No.189298

That is why the true Wizchad, where he exists, is such an admirable hero. He is a diamond of the universe.

The Demiurge created this rotten darwinian universe of evopsych and sexual selection, just for the beauty of the True Wizard, who says no to lust, in a sexual universe.

All the ugliness of the physical world, was worth it for the spiritual diamond that is the volcel wizchad

 No.189303

Majority of wizards are ugly or least unkempt (why do you think the iconic depiction is a scruffy old man with a great beard)?

Implying you're attractive is a form of normalfag humblebragging and should be a bannable offense

 No.189306

>>189295
>succubi love the pretty boy twinks who are the antithesis of masculity
Maybe when they are 11-15 ages old, but even then it's not just any pretty boy they fall in love with, it used to be the Justin Bieber type pretty boy who was successful, famous and had lot of money. And I never said succs like muscles. I said they like powerful men and it is true.

>>189296
Wo-men don't have sex drives, they desire socializing, being close to someone and being wanted by someone powerful or of high social status. The whole ridiculous idea about wymen having sex drives like us is just some modernist fable, created by pseudo-psychologists (more like people who simply wanted to spread false information). Most succubi don't even masturbate and not only because they always have someone to have sex with them, they plain and simple don't value orgasms that much. The myth of the so called nymphomaniac is another try by succubi who want to attentionwhore. "Look at me I am a whore, te-heheh, I'm a bad succubus, I'm sooo special"

>I don't think you could reduce female psychology to just having a power or resource fetish.

Yes, I can. It's not quantum physics or some complicated science we are discussing, it is the female mind. Contrary to popular memes, it is a painfully simple topic.

History and society proves me right. It was never the cute guys who had the most sex but the powerful men. Kings, politicians, businessmen, religious/cult leaders and other rich or high status men. Any guy saying that looks are important when it comes to succubi is either ignorant or he has some complex about his own appearance.

>but if you knew what succubi wanted, you'd be winning the game already

What? This is some grade A stupid logic if I ever heard one. First, knowing what wymen want and having what they want is two different thing. Second, I like the wiz life anyway.
It feels like people here get their ideas about females from imageboards, memes, Hollywood movies, romcom anime and porn movies. And
>Y-You are a normalfag!
No, I am just good at perceiving things around me and understanding how the world works. I saw it time and time again, that wo-men prefer money/power over looking good when it comes to males. My sister had a bf once (a minority guy) who looked good and was cool and all, but when my sis found out he didn't work she kicked him out. And she's not even a gold digger or as horrible as others from her sex are. That is how these things work. There is no wo-man on this planet who wants to support and take care of a guy that doesn't even know how to take care of himself. Keep in mind that when you hear succubi having poor bfs, these boyfriends are all either criminals or other aggressive people who know how to turn them on, it's never about looks in the case of men.

>>189298
I agree but volcel wizards aren't born, they are made that way by society and the world. But yes, it really is the superior way to live.

 No.189307

>>189306
I'm none of the guys you responded to but can you please shut the fuck up, your posts are annoying crab rants and aren't related to the topic

 No.189309

>>189307
What is crab-like in what I wrote? And how it's not related to the topic?

 No.189316

>>189306
>Maybe when they are 11-15 ages old, but even then it's not just any pretty boy they fall in love with, it used to be the Justin Bieber type pretty boy who was successful, famous and had lot of money. And I never said succs like muscles. I said they like powerful men and it is true.
What kind of succs are we talking about here then? I think we might agree but misunderstand each other here.

I find that what you say about succs is generally true for a certain subset of older (25+) succs who are out in the real world and need money either to raise a kid or to pay for their drug addiction or to keep up with consumerism and the rat race.

I think that in general this theory is outdated because succubi are financially independent from men and can pursue ambitions and career goals on their own. In the past when succubi were basically forced to get married, when they didn’t really have rights, it was more important for their partner to have power and money, and to be a good person. One because she couldn’t divorce him, and two because his livelihood determines her own.

Succs now are very career oriented. Marriage in the twenty first century means something different than it used to. Before, a husband and wife were united in matrimonial unity, they depended on each other and constituted a single moral being. Now we are socially atomized; a husband and wife are each their own separate beings who are independent and self sufficient but keep some of the old traditions alive for fun like cohabitation. A succ usually has her own job, her own property, and her own transportation, so hubby holding her hand and providing for her fulfilling her every need is completely unnecessary, and even the gold diggers see this chivalrous behavior as cringe and patronizing

 No.189322

>>189306
My uncle has been a NEET on disabilitybux for pretty much his whole life. He has a wife with a good job and kids.

 No.189323

>>189322
Kek, I too have a uncle that is a NEET, and yet was very successful with succubi his whole life, even though he was NEET for entirely of his adult life. Some people are just born luck or something.

 No.189324

Regarding the female discussion, below my observations :

If a female is a degenerate and has a well paying job, she'll hook up with the tinder pretty boys until she's 30 and ready to settle.

If a female is a degenerate and doesn't have a well paying job, she'll get a provider and cheat on him with the tinder pretty boys.

If a female is not a degenerate and has a well paying job, she is likely to desire someone that has at least the same social standing as her while also trying to maximize the genetic trait of the potential mate.

If a female is not a degenerate and doesn't have a well paying job, she is likely to desire someone with max social status while also aiming for the least ugly as possible.

>>189276
I guess wizard are too sensitive to social dynamics, and any painful interaction would result in immediate self-isolation.
Being ugly does make one more sensitive to his peers' social pressure, but it's not a rule written in stone as some average to ugly guys do have good social skills.

Wish I could disable the "self-awareness" brain api.

 No.189326

>>189316
I agree. They have their own money now. A man's socioeconomic status is becoming less and less important unless we are talking about 35+ year olds who get the leftovers.

In the 18-34 demographics looks are what matters the most. succubi just want someone physically attractive.
Not necessarily for relationships either, for FWB arrangements or one night stands.

 No.189327

>>189324
Pretty much. Though my sister is 36 and delusional about how long she has left to start a family and still does the thing you mentioned.

(She still sleeps around with the dating app chads with nothing serious in mind)

 No.189333

I always understood blackpill more in philosophical sense (existential nihilism) than in lookist sense (ugly people have no chances to find a sexual partner without paying).

In that sense, I'm blackpilled honkler-style: instead of being depressed from knowing the horrible truth and feeling existential dread, I prefer to just laugh at the absurdity of life. If nothing matters, why care about anything? Just grab popcorn and watch the world burn (but trying to burhn it yourself is pointless).

 No.189338

>>189326
>>189316
>I think that in general this theory is outdated because succubi are financially independent from men and can pursue ambitions and career goals on their own.

There is more to it than that. Females are simply attracted or turned on by powerful men. You are projecting yourselves onto females by thinking they are attracted to men based on muscles or looks. It's not even about leeching off someone first of all, it is about being getting a powerful man to like you, want you, have sex with you - this is how they think.
Yeah, there is the whole equality thing now, but let's not kid ourselves, most wymen aren't doctors or lawyers, despite media portraying them in high positions always nowadays to reinforce the whole strong wymen deal. And even those small number of succs who have good careers or jobs or are simply rich, they are almost never attracted to lower status males. You can be a 10/10 male model but a succ will choose a 3/10 wealthy guy or someone of higher social status than herself always. We have "equality" on paper but in reality it is still expected of the male to be the stronger and more reliable in a relationship. This won't change, no matter how much pc stuff will be forced down our throats through movies and video games. The strong wo-man is a myth most of the time and if she exists, she certainly wants an even stronger male as her companion.

In short: females don't respect men who are weaker than them or have lower status than them. You could be a handsome man yet if you are a meek, introverted guy too then it's not worth anything to succs. "Bad boys" turn them on, people with power of any kind.

>>189322
>>189323
It's not luck, there are indeed cases like that, but it is about usually succs getting attracted to criminals or aggressive people if they go with a lower status male. They are attracted to power, even if this "power" simply means your boyfriend is a mean guy who beats you up all the time and treats you like crap. Or it is about succubi wanting to play the martyr: "oooh look at me, my husband/boyfriend hurts me/does drugs/drinks all the time/cheats on me all the time, poor me" or the infamous succubus messiah complex "he is bad boy but I will change him!"

It's all an act when it comes to womyn.

>>189333
Yes, this is a much better interpretation of black pill. Instead of this whole in-cel "im ugly, nobody loves me :(" thing wizards should focus on the philosophical side of the black pill.

 No.189339

>>189338
two words. jeremy meeks

 No.189340

>>189333
>If nothing matters, why care about anything?

because extreme physical pain is impossible to not care about, and therefore you need to care about stuff

if your money disappeared tomorrow and you were in the cold and had to hang yourself, you would be feeling stressed the fuck out buddy, admit it

 No.189342

I think it is happiest to be subjectively volcel and objectively black pilled. Some might call that "coping sour grapes". But they are just jealous that it is a cheat code in life. Copes are a cheat code. Allowing one to be more happy than one deserves to be. And that pisses others off.

Being a true total volcel, where its entirely by voluntary choice, that can lead to feelings of regret. Did I throw my life away because i was seduced by the wizard cult? But if I had no chance anyway it doesn't matter. But I would still rather feel volcel, than constantly thirsting.

But I can appreciate the black pill mindset. It feels nice, feeling that the universe, biology, humanity, society unjustly unfairly cursed you, and you owe nothing back to society, and there is no social contract between you and fellow humans.

 No.189345

>>189316
>In the past when succubi were basically forced to get married, when they didn’t really have rights
feminist bullshit, they had rights, it was just a different set of rights because ya know, men had a lot more responsibilities like conscription so they were afforded the vote

 No.189346

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>>189339
Maybe not only she was horny, she might also have saw the potential Jeremy had, but also rich succubus can lust for poorer man and prefer to breed with them if they're sexier, see pic related.

 No.189348

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the established common ground between social rejects is that they're social… rejects? and I can assure you this rejection is mostly based on your looks for normies don't care about anything else. not denying there are voluntarily celibates here, or above average looking people who are too poor or mentally-ill, but those are exception. what I want to understand is why anons here are so afraid of admitting not being attractive, maybe they're normies too? or in cognitive dissonance? sad.

 No.189350

i look fine and i've been sexually propositioned around 6 times in my adult life.

i was diagnosed with schizotypal disorder and OCD, so these things just disgust me too much to bother. maybe it will sound comedic to you, but biology class in school genuinely traumatized me and i have never recovered from it. For example:
"Tiny blood vessels at the base of every follicle feed the hair root to keep it growing. But once the hair is at the skin's surface, the cells within the strand of hair aren't alive anymore. The hair you see on every part of your body contains dead cells."

hearing of such things, things like the hymen, things like billions of tiny organisms living, shitting and dying in people's bodies. all these things. disgust me so badly that i try not to look at myself in the mirror and practice thought avoidance and meditations so that i don't kill myself.

i look at people and i see that, all those disgusting details i learned in biology class. and i think of all the x-ray diagrams of the circulatory system and the liver. and it's all so disgusting it's unbearable. i'd rather die than have sex.

 No.189355

>>189348
No, normies also care about autism and they care about it a lot.

 No.189356

>>189348
>normies instead of normalfags

 No.189357

>>189350

Did you know that the vagina has a natural micro environment of bacteria that protect it from infection?

Did you know that there are dust mites that live in our beds and pillows and eat our dead skin cells as they shed off?

Did you know there’s actually a specialized species of these mites that live on the base of your eye lash and clean the surrounding skin of dead skin cells? It’s almost a certainty that you have these mites living on you RIGHT NOW.

Did you know that you’re constantly covered in bacteria and that many of them protect you from infection by hunting other bacteria?

Did you know that you’re constantly breathing in pollen, mold spores, and aerosolized bacteria and viruses?

 No.189360

>>189357
Why do this?

 No.189370

>>189357
yes, i did know that. thats why i dont have sex or look at myself in the mirror.

 No.189374

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Which is true?

 No.189375

>>189374
None of them, but the blackpill maps closer to reality.
The truth is there is a very good reason every religion and historical civilization tightly controls female sexual freedom.
Once that is done away with, there's nothing men can "do", because there's no rationality behind female behavior.
For men, it's as simple as "see attractive/sexy succubi, pp hard"
For succubi it's "be physically attractive, unless she's not in that kind of mood then be a provider, unless she's not in that kind of mood, have a fun personality, unless she's not in that kind of mood"
That's why the biggest predictor of success with succubi is to be in the top 20% of men, which interpreted another way is to have the biggest range of positive attributes and the fewest range of flaws so you're less likely to not be in that "I'm attracted/not attracted to that right now" mode as frequently as possible.

 No.189376

why is it that this forum about disregarding succubi never seems to shut up about succubi

 No.189377

>>189376
Because "disregard succubi" is literally a (likekely a homosexual psyop) meme.
The original wizard meme is japanese in origin, and had fuck all to do with rejecting succubi. It was just about being a loser virgin no sane succubus would be attracted to.
"Wizards disregard succubi" is literally a forced meme. Arguably beneficial, considering how terrible females fuck up male social reject spaces once those spaces get popular enough.

 No.189382

>>189375
The feminist twist being male sexuality is demonised by society and seen as evil and toxic when in reality it's actually much more pure and innocent than how succubi operate - there's much more honesty in being attracted to someone just for the way they look than there is for their status or income. All the succubi worshippers who act like they're really complex unique individuals are especially embarrassing, they're not, I would say they're as visual as men, they'll just deny it because they like grandstanding about how deep they are ("I like hardworking nice men [Lie]") then get upset when they find themselves in an unhappy marriage because they married someone they didn't find physically attractive (who da thunk?!)
The latter is funny so I don't care about that but I can't stand feminist bullshit like durr the male gaze (proliferated by gaslighting bullshit like the above) because as >>189377 said they ruin male spaces which are especially important for wiz types, case in point "objectification" in gaming so now you cant have things that titillate the male audience because that's bad because reasons

 No.189387

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This guy summed it up well. Decent and worthwhile men and succubi exist but they are isolated just surviving or are already taken living their lives going unnoticed (problematic people draw attention not healthy ones). Modern society of digital entertainment/communication, over population and abundance has ruined most of the species ability to bond with each other, especially pair bond (Genuine intimacy, commitment, consistency and love between male and female.) put short hand baby-boomers failed completely as parents and we are living the results all around us. Most us will be sacrificial to the march of time no one is entitled to anything. Nothing cares about our species but us. I'm 32 and genetically fortunate to be good looking and well build but I'm a wizard by choice because I haven't ever met a female worthwhile to me, only narcissistic womanchilds. And I never want to rear children. That's just chance for ya. Not everyone finds someone, life isn't a television show.

 No.189389

>>189387
Dare I say >wizchan 2022 ???

 No.189390

>>189382
>The feminist twist being male sexuality is demonised by society and seen as evil and toxic

and wizchan doesn't demonize male sexuality? (and rightly so)

 No.189393

>>189390
not in the same way, wizchan demonizes everyone, male and female, and is a fringe website for outcasts so has no power in society to change things so its not at all the same

 No.189402

>>189340
What I meant is you shouldn't care about things out of your control and not directly affecting you.

I was once idealistic and bleeding heart for all the bad things happening to people around me. Then I slowly realised how fucked up and nonsensical the world is, how people are dumb and brought many of bad things on themselves and how meaningless life and universe is. So now I don't care about anything out of my direct control and not directly affecting myself and basically treat life as one big cosmic joke.

 No.189405

Its amazing how there are so many imcel forums that produce so much content. Like how much can you say about being imcel?

"I'm ugly and succubi won't date me" yeah its sad, it sucks.

But they manage to base their whole lives around it, having 1000s of conversations about it, posting 100s of posts a day. Doing analysis, making a whole meme culture around it. Having their whole life orbit around that topic.

"I'm ugly tfw no gf" is all they talk about 24/7 for years and even decades.

How much can be said on the topic?

 No.189412

>>189405
mate are you fucking retarded

humanity is made up of people who are the descendants of those who wanted to fuck. the people who could care less about not having sex didn't pass on their genes as much for obvious reasons!

humanity and nature in general care about reproduction beyond anything, otherwise it ceases to exist. crabs being obsessed with their condition is the most natural and obvious thing in the world, asexuality and passivity is an extreme aberration and always will be

 No.189413

>>189405
Normans too almost just talks about muh relationship, muh sex.

 No.189418

>>189412
yeah they are like Neo from the Matrix for discovering the dark horrific truth that attractive looks are attractive to succubi

 No.189419

>>189412
>the people who could care less
you mean
>couldn't care less

 No.189422

>>189374
All are ways normals think. The truth is "you could get succs, maybe even pretty ones, if you tried hard enough, but it's not worth it and you are better off without them".

>>189412
>humanity and nature in general care about reproduction beyond anything
>pass on their genes
You people are so stupid it is making me cringe. It's not about passing on genes, it is about sexual pleasure for most people. Who has sex for the reason of passing on their genes? Hah. Maybe hardcore christians do it out of duty but otherwise most of the population only cares about pleasure. That and fitting in, to be seen as normal.

Once you realize it is about pleasure, you can enjoy masturbating at home comfy style. And once you get bored of pleasure or want something more, you will realize sexuality is just a meme, and you can be fine without it. This is the true wizpill.

 No.189423

>>189419
I think "could care less" actually works too in a sort of sarcastic way. Like saying "Well, at least I could care less, but I care so little that that's not really saying much…"

 No.189428

>>189276
I think it's a loaded topic because an actual wizard has long since abandoned the pursuit of succubi which itself seems the more relevant part of black pill discourse that I've observed.
I believe a core tenet of being a wizard is to remove the gynocentric mindset that the modern male inevitably grows up with.
Qualifiers like handsome/ugly matter infinitely less than being able to see if you're healthy/sick for example (if you still prefer self-preservation that is).

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 No.189442

>>189374
Black pill of course I’m 29 with no life experience and my best years are left behind its already over for me.Only hope is reincarnation with better life or going to heaven and something like that my life is wasted and its cursed with being loser at everything

 No.189528

>>189442
Well, at least I hope when I die, some nice goddess will reincarnate me in some nice isekai world where I'll have better life…

 No.189558

wizardry and mgtow ? Allies or enemies?

 No.189563

>>189558
mgtow are strongman posturing normalfags, wizards should care about mens rights (because being low status they receive the brunt of abuse) but mgtards only care about them in relation to marriage or how it personally affects them (abloo abloo my wifey left me so im going my own cope way) - wizards already have nothing to do with succubi anyway so its defunct.

 No.189565

>>189558
enemies.

 No.189566

>>189558
MGTOW is a good idea but in practice the meme MGTOWers from YouTube are sometimes kinda cringe, many of them are "masculinity" redpill/improvebrah types who talk about succubi all the time.

 No.189574

>>189558
neither actually "go their own way", it's just a catchy slogan.
what they really mean is they go somewhere away from succubi and then proceed to talk about succubi all day, every day.
if they really went their own way, succubi would never be discussed here even once unless it's about your mom or something.
fake lying hypocritical garbage like always.

they're the same thing just one is more reddit and collects funko pops.

 No.189613

>>189284
>>189285
You're forgetting 2 things: hygiene and confidence. When I have bangs/tic alot/look nervous, they distance themselves from me and look up at me in fear. When I comb it up like some zoomer troll doll/tics aren't that bad/look confident, I get alot more smiles, stares, they're friendlier to me in the rare case I need to talk to them…succubi want confidence. That's why they fall for every psychopath. And why being genetically ugly rarely factors into the equation. If you clean up nicely and feel sure of yourself, they'll want you even if you don't want them. And that's a kind of power in its own right.

 No.189614

>>189613
>wizchan 2022

 No.189616

>>189614
I don't come to wizchan to read dating advice from crabs hiding in magic robes.

 No.189629

>>189613
>just take a shower bro

 No.189648

>>189616
>crab crab
>more truwiz larping
kys cc poster

 No.189649

>>189648
>cc poster
>truwiz larper
It makes no sense to accuse someone of those both things at once.

Also, you're replying to a waifuist. Truwiz LARPers hate me.

>crab crab

Thinking back to it, that's definitely a pretty stupid accusation. Crabs vehemently fight against the idea that confidence and hygiene are all succs want.

Either way, discussions of redpill vs bluepill vs blackpill, dating power mechanics, and how to get succs to like you, should be bannable offenses.

 No.190080

bumpy for more info

 No.190150

>>189276
I have no delusions, I know I'm fucking ugly. Society has always been clear with me about my ugliness.

 No.190155

there are tons of ugly people that aren't virgins. pretty sure it is just a mental condition mostly. i refuse to believe people over 30 exist that try and fail to have sex. there are succubi that exist whose job is having sex with you. no, if they really wanted to not be a virgin, they would have sex. they can claim otherwise and whine about it. what they want is not just sex, but effortless sex to some unrealistic standard with a fantasy relationship with imaginary beings

it is like a man calling himself starved, he us dying of hunger, with nothing to eat… but he has plates of food all around him. he is really just a picky eater that delights in self-loathing

 No.190156

>>190155
It is harder for an adult over the age of 30 to make a genuine friend than it is to pay somebody to have sex with him.

 No.190159

>>190155
Is this retard advising to sleep with whores ?
Fucking disgusting trash of a human being.

 No.190164

>>190155
With exception of whores which they’re hard to find and unsafe to hire them in some parts of the world, actually its really nearly impossible for a poor and ugly man to have sex so you’re wrong about your thinking

 No.190171

>>190155
This is the absolute truth, well said.

>>190159
He is saying only that if you wanted to norm it up you could have done it already.

>>190164
No, he isn't wrong. Whores exist everywhere, it is oldest profession in the world. If you wanted to have sex you could have done it already. What you or other crabs want isn't sex but something different, a fantasy, some ideal you believe in. A fairy tale.

 No.190176

>>190164
There are apps where you can get sex with some slut in a few minutes

 No.190181

>>190176
this is not true, unless you're already so insanely attractive succubi are just throwing themselves at you

 No.190182


 No.190191

>>189288
you're clearly not in tune with reality. every population has its bell curve, and its needs not be mentioned that attractive wizards exist because of this. i know you are just parotting inkwellTV which at one point i used to watch too. but it just shows that You really need to think for yourself some more and i hope you will. i'll just lay what i know and say that my attractiveness hardly helped me because of my mental deficits that made me want to stay away from people./note, its been this way since i was old enough to speak coherently so its nor like i learned this behavior forom others/. am i an outlier? i dont know but ill lean towards probably. but what i do know is that a lot of what your say is either completely wrong like the idea that animals are a blank slate which a quick search would suggest otherwise. or its twisting the truth to justify your bias.

 No.190194

>>190176
shut the fuck up normalfag retard

 No.190221

>>190155
True, but sex isn't the point, if you have a few bucks lying around you can at least get a bj from a crackhead, but that's not the issue. What we want is not just sex, we're people who have been treated as the lowest of the low our entire lives, we crave to be loved and appreciated by someone. Paying to lose your virginity is not gonna fix that.

 No.190228

>>190181
Maybe not in a few minutes but it's not impossible. Again, there are whores for sex always.

>>190221
Oh, naive friend. That kind of love doesn't exist. People are selfish and vile, succubi too. If you want to be "appreciated" then you must have money, status, something succubi would love. Is it really worth it at the end of the day? They would appreciate what you have have but not you.

 No.191368

What about single motherhood? Fatherlessness? Isn't that a cause?

 No.191369

>>191368
No, those are all ghetto gangstas and redneck white trash

 No.191370

>>191369
There are several fatherless men here for sure I am one. It affected me immensely not having a dad. It's common knowledge no dad = prison or crabs.

 No.191377

>>191368
Fatherlessness and single-mother households should be its own thread. I'm really surprised it isn't.

 No.191380

If you are a wizard (crab), you are by definition unfit to reproduce, an evolutionary dead end. You are being naturally selected against, and your traits are unworthy of being passed on.

Stop the cope, take the blackpill

 No.191387

>>191380
That is true , personaly I wouldn’t survived to adulthood if it wasn’t the modern medicine.We would have been weeded out by natural selection likely and because modern medicine is prevented that now we’re gonna eliminated with sexual selection and that is the true black pill , my genes are just trash and inferior. I have nothing worthy in me

 No.191390

>>191380
You presume that being antisocial is a genetic trait.

 No.191391

>>191390
and it is, sorry, pal.

 No.191394

>>191390
It very much is, with it's severity varying from your childhood and adolescence experiences. My father is just as antisocial as me, but he was growing up with little to no help from hi family and with no internet to escape into, so he managed to get a job, met my mom due to sheer luck and eventually passed me the no-no genes. His father was also alcoholic, who's worked in mines all his life not giving a single shit about anything except boose and his job.

 No.191397

There is definitely a connection, but I don't think its black and white either. Almost no man is going to choose celibacy if he is very attractive and can get with hot succubi with ease, its just not happening, but you don't have to be a complete shit stain in the looks department to feel as if dealing with succubi is not worth it. I know how black pillers think, they hate all forms of voluntary celibacy from MGTOW to Wizards because it undermines their struggle, so they try to say its all just cope and because they can't get laid anyway, but I think most guys could get something out of succubi if they had no standards or concern for their own personal well being at all. Sure some guys are just fucked, but I think more and more men are simply realizing that celibacy is a better option than what is available to them. The black pill plays a role in limiting your options, but limited options are still options, and volcel would only be a cope if you had no options.

 No.191399

>>191394
on one hand you claim your father was asocial, on the other he was rewarded for it, and it's unclear if in another time or place that would have been perceived as antisocial or not. for these reasons it's entirely relative. it's almost relative by definition, as there are numerous ways social groups can configure themselves. what's considered antisocial or not can even differ between departments in the same building, as everyone knows sales are assholes unless you work in sales, and everyone knows it and telecoms are insular unless you happen to be a technician in that department

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>>189574
>if they really went their own way, succubi would never be discussed here even once unless it's about your mom or something

Its funny how no mgtow guy has ever said we won't talk about succubi, but everyone who hates them puts that standard onto them. Anyone who says that does not understand mgtow. MGTOW is simply putting yourself in a position where succubi cannot fuck your life up or invade and disrupt your space. You can talk about succubi til you're blue in the face, it doesn't make you any less mgtow. The extreme of never think and or talk about succubi is again an invention of people who want to decide what mgtow should be but isn't.

 No.191401

>>191380
>the evolutionary dead end meme
Haha, no. This is just a cope for lazy crabs with high standards. Everyone here could get laid, I say this with 100% certainity. If you looked around a little you'd know there are plenty of "genetic trash" men having sex and reproducing. I mean people with literal disabilities, illnesses, deformations and retardations.

>>191387
>personaly I wouldn’t survived to adulthood if it wasn’t the modern medicine
True for 90% of the population. You are delusional if you think you are a virgin because you have inferior genes.

 No.191407

Huge correlation. I mean everyone should have friends and a girlfriend. "Should" of course means nothing in real life but if you had like minded girlfriend and friend you would be content with your life.

My mother met my father when she was 36. Dad was 43. Had me in under 2 years. Don't know what mom was doing for 35 years but she didnt really go out much, had a few friends. At least she has told me this. Probably just couldnt find the perfect chad and settled for my father. My dad has aged pretty well though, has a nice trustworthy looking face.

They are both retired now. Dad nowadays spends spends 1/3 of the year at his summer house, house next to the one he grew up in and inherited from his dad. Mom also likes to spend as much of the summer there too. They never argue, and when I'm with them for the night I overhear them speaking sometimes for hours on mornings. Later on the day they just cycle tv since they like different shows. Mom reads and cleans the house.

It's all just luck of the draw. I mean you only got couple of realistic chances at making friends. My elementary school had 13 boys at my class. I had one real friend. We were similiar that we liked video games and never cared for the normie social climbing game which starts out very young. In junior high I applied to a arts class so we had like 4 guys in our class, one was a faggot and one just a weak kid. I got along with them in school but never hung out after school. Then in high school at least in my experience literally everyone had established circles from before high school. Didnt talk to anyone except the same guy Ive been friends with since elementary school.

Naturally I was born "retarded" with open bite that manifested in junior high and flat feet. Not big things but thats what you get when you birth a child at 38. I had both later fixed with surgery. I got treated a lot better after my bimax in every possible way.

I dont really have any real point here. I have friends that I see 4-6 times a year since they are wagecucks with girlfriends and we are almost 30. I know all of them from knowing the elementary school guy I dont even know what are the official "wizard" rules. Dont care. I have never dated and I'm currently unemployed. Been coming to 4chan since 2008.

Not a native speaker, thats why my language is grade school tier

Basically all of your problems most likely stem from not being good/ or even average looking at early phase of your life. Of course your parents could be alcoholics or drug addicts but in my experience this is very rare.

 No.191409

Black pill describes the objective state of the world. volcel is a subjective mindset or ethics.

So one can believe the universe is black pill, but still live by a code of volcel ethics

 No.191418

>>191400
hate that game

 No.191421

>>189276
If you're ugly you'll get blackpilled no matter what. The way normalfags treat you will tell you if you're ugly or not, succubi will not use their "cute" mask around you and you'll see how awful they really are. I'm pretty sure there are some decent looking wizards out there, some are spergs or have other mental issues, but the great mayority here are just ugly people in denial.

 No.191426

>>191401
You don’t anything about me retard, you’re an absolute fool and moron claiming insane lies about people you have no idea about.

>>191397

Another retard thinks he knows about other people more than themselves. Seriously why there are so many utter crazies think they know everything? White lies you believe are still lies, some people are just worthless and they will just achieve nothing

 No.191427

>>191426
>Another retard thinks he knows about other people more than themselves.
>some people are just worthless and they will just achieve nothing
Your statements claim to know people's worth just as much as his.

 No.191429

>>191400
I’ve liked Mgtow since 2011 because the topics are always good. There is some things that are really great pointing out,

 No.191430

>>191429
eh, it's too reactionary for me.

 No.191431

>>191429
Its surprising that they get so much hate, even in spaces like this. But I think part of it is because despite being frustrated with succubi and dating, most men don't like the idea that you can just give up on it and be okay.

 No.191432

>>191421
>>191407
Looks don't matter for males as much as they matter for females. If care so much about how you look as a man then you have inferiority complex.

What counts as a man is whether you are strong, manly, brave, aggressive, successful, respected, wealthy or not.

>ugly people in denial

I don't think anyone is saying here that wizards are 10/10 male model type pretty boys. You care so much about looks because you are a male so you judge succs based on their looks naturally. But succubi think differently from you, they are okay with ugly men as long as they have the above mentioned things. In fact those things are way more important than looking good.

>>191426
Look at how butthurt you are because I pointed out the truth. But I am right. You probably sit at home depressed all day, waiting for a 10/10 succ to ring your doorbell and say she loves you. What you want is effortless, idealistic relationship, much like in anime or movies. Real life doesn't work like that. Most men have to lower their standards if they want to get laid. Unless you are super famous or rich you will have to settle for fat and ugly or average succubi. And even in those cases you have to chase succubi.

You could have sex, like I said many "genetic trash" type of people have sex. You would know it too if you weren't on r/crab all day.

 No.191439

>>191432
>looks don't matter for males
>succubi think differently from you, they are okay with ugly men


Retards shouldn't voice their opinions.

 No.191442

>What is the correlation of being a wizard and being ugly?
Higher than the general population. Being ugly as a child/teenager is one of the biggest factors in a kid being bullied, ignored and ostracized. Ugly kids are even more likely to be abused and neglected by adults.

 No.191450

>>191407
you can get 100 surgeries but you'll always be from kolechia, you remember that.
if you didn't need a respiratory mask for breathing problems because you were born in a polluted industrial wasteland communist country you cannot be a wizard >:(

 No.191451

consensus is that there is none
believe what you will

 No.191453

You can't be a wizard if you are good looking. You are just a normalfaggot loved by everyone. You will never be a reject because normalfags like you.

 No.191466

>>191453
im an uglywiz, but instead of shunning our best wizards, we should use them as our ambassadors. you self-hating wizards want there to be no good wizards

 No.191467

>>191432
I don’t know where did you retard come from but you should gtfo of this place and take your lies with you.You talk about other people thinking they could easily have sex, like you know ANYTHING about them, some people will never have sex and they will NEVER wanted to fuck with females.You should fuck off to pick up artistry or wherever bullshit place you come from

 No.191473

>>191439
But it is all true. Look at rich people who have tons of lovers and gfs, there are many fat, old, balding people among them. Money, status, power - these matter the most if you are a male. You project your wishes onto succubi, thinking they select their partner based on how good looking they are while money is the most important thing for them.

Men want pretty and sexy succubi.
Wymen want rich, high status, powerful men who can protect them and can provide for them.

Succubi don't even have a proper sex drive like us males, they use sex only to chain men to themselves and to get what they want.
You sound like a typical crab who grew up on porn and r9k.

>>191467
But 99% of the population did have sex or does have sex during their lives? Even actual autists and retards can find wo-men that fuck them or marry them. Virgin men are extremely rare above 20 and almost non-existent after 25. Most who are virgins after that age do so voluntarily because of religious reasons mostly. You can't be a crab after 25. Because that implies you never really tried to get laid and so you don't care about the whole thing.

>some people will never have sex and they will NEVER wanted to fuck with females

Yes, I say the same thing too.

 No.191474

>>191473
>claims crabs can be succesful with just effort and ignores the facts most of crabs are people who are losers in every aspect in life besides relationships
>is retard enough and speaks like normie garbage

I suggest the rope

 No.191477

>>191474
No, it's not about getting better. It is about deciding already what you want. Because to me it sounds like most crabs don't even want to have sex or relationships, they just want a reason to be angry at the world.

 No.191479

>>191477
>they just want a reason to be angry at the world.
And do you need reasons for that????

 No.191481

>>191473
>But it is all true. Look at rich people who have tons of lovers and gfs, there are many fat, old, balding people among them
Most of the time their wives/gf's are cheating behind their back in favor of more good looking men, as the crab saying goes, beta for bucks chad for fucks.

 No.191482

>>191473
>Virgin men are extremely rare above 20 and almost non-existent after 25
Undesirables in the true sense of the word(both socially and genetically) are a small minority, they either turn into shunned outcasts locked inside their homes or commit suicide.

 No.191484

have a proper sex drive like us
have a proper sex drive like us
us

hmm a slip on the tongue? thought it was against the rules but he found a loophole

 No.191485

>>191482
so do you consider yourself an undesirable? because in this very site "wizards" call each other that and identify with the "pure bloodline"
came to terms with it that I am indeed genetically inferior, probably in a list to be cleansed in some future global eugenics program to purify humanity

 No.191486

>>191484
again not against the rules

 No.191499

>>191473
>ugly millionares can get a girlfriend so looks don't matter
Your IQ must be single digit if this is how you argue and actually think.
Looks are important and not just for dating.
>Men want pretty and sexy succubi.
Men want and desire succubi and they will procreate and marry whatever they can get, not just the sexiest of females.
>Succubi don't even have a proper sex drive like us males, they use sex only to chain men to themselves and to get what they want.
This is some redpill bullshit, so the average succubus who has casual sex with no strings attached and ends up with a sex partner number of over 100 now has no sex drive.
Here's the wizpill and why succubi are rightfully called succubi:
succubi ENJOY SEX, they actually ENJOY SEX MORE THAN MEN, THEIR ORGASMS LAST LONGER AND ARE MULTIPLE. THEY EVEN EXPERIENCE A RISE IN LIBIDO DURING OVULATION WHEN THEY ARE THE MOST FERTILE. Their whole bodies are build for the purpose of reproduction, you're denying basic biological facts.
Just because a succubus doesn't find you sexually attractive doesn't mean she has no sexual drive lol

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>>191484
>like us males
Yep, that's a succ.

 No.191514

>>191479
Apparently most people, including crabs, do need reasons to justify why they hate others and the world.

>>191481
That is just r/crab tier thinking. Implying such succs are brave enough to cheat on their rich husbands and risk losing their income…

>>191482
Nobody misses out on sex because they are "undesirable". It is always a more complex issue. Mostly related to having high expectations and finding sexuality to be repulsive in some way.

>>191484
Every healthy male has sex drive, sorry. Whether virgin or not, if you get erections and/or masturbate then you have a sex drive.

>>191485
>genetically inferior
Oh stop, please, this meme is really ridiculous now. People with literally crap genes and diseases that can be inherited have sex and reproduce all over the world.
If you are strong enough to hold down a succubus and if you are able to have an erection then you are "fit" to reproduce or to have sex. Not that I'm suggesting you should rape anyone, just saying that is all that is required in order to be "fit" to do these things.

>>191499
No, looks for males are really on the bottom of the list as far as importance goes. There are much more important things, things I listed already.

Men prefer attractive and sexy females over obese and ugly ones, do you seriously debate this? It is us who care about looks, not females. They care about power and status.

Yes, succubi have no sex drive like we do. Thanks for proving you are some underage retard who gets all his information about people and the world from r/crab, blackpillshit sides and porn/hentai.
They naturally have more partners than males because they don't have to do anything, there are always thirsty males who will approach them. If anything this says something about males, not females.
>they actually ENJOY SEX MORE THAN MEN, THEIR ORGASMS LAST LONGER AND ARE MULTIPLE. THEY EVEN EXPERIENCE A RISE IN LIBIDO DURING OVULATION WHEN THEY ARE THE MOST FERTILE. Their whole bodies are build for the purpose of reproduction, you're denying basic biological facts.
This is some Middle Ages tier retardation about how succubi are more "sinful" and "lustful" than us when the case has always been the opposite. Again, you get all your "facts" from r9k and porn plus you project your own desires unto females. Classic.
>Just because a succubus doesn't find you sexually attractive doesn't mean she has no sexual drive lol
Just because a succubus fucks people doesn't mean she is interested in sex the same way as men are lol The actual whores do it for attention-whoring exactly, not because they enjoy sex so much. They are insecure and feel the constant need for approval so they throw themselves at any man who approaches them.

 No.191515

>>191514
> Implying such succs are brave enough to cheat on their rich husbands and risk losing their income
They don’t risk shit, if they’re married they are automatically entitled to half the man’s possessions and if they have kids they’re guaranteed child support. Cheating risks nothing for them.

 No.191516

>>191515
Taking half of the guy's possessions and child support isn't nearly as stable a source of income as leeching off on a rich guy.

 No.191517

>>191514
>succubi have no sex drive like us
>succubi having sex doesnt meant they're interested in sex it just mean they're insecure
>it's male who are thirsty
>succubi just care about power and status

Delusional retard and probably a female.

 No.191519

>>191517
No to both, I just simply draw my conclusions based on people and the real world, not on what retards on r9k/pol say. Yeah and also, I'm forced to say it again: what you see in porn and how females act, well sorry to disappoint you, but irl females are different. 99% of porn is made to satisfy male audiences and so you only see your own desires mirrored there. Grow up.

 No.191520

>>191519
>looks for males are really on the bottom of the list as far as importance goes.
>It is us who care about looks, not females. They care about power and status.
The data on succubi's sexual drive and what they find sexually attractive in males is conclusive. Good looks being the biggest factor(not a surprise to anyone with a bit of common sense), not money or status. That's why good looking men are the most successful with succubi.
You can just be good looking and people, not only females, will assume you are smart, honest, rich, and other myriad of good qualities, and this will reflect in a high status. So how come are looks not important when it comes to life in general.
Everything you claim is retarded from succubi not caring about looks to saying that people can't miss on sex.

 No.191521

>>191516
economists say take the lotto lump sum

 No.191524

>>189377
Wizchan 2022

 No.191525

>>189377
>>191524
It just proves anti-gay is anti-volcel, cuz what the crabs REALLY hate is anyone not being attracted to the beauty that is womyn

 No.191528

>>191525
Fags belong in bog.

 No.191535

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>>191528
Of all the traits to take pride in, being attracted to succubi is the stupidest. Especially if you're a virgin. Especially since the same straight pride hetero guys are always bitching about how evil succubi are.

Lusting for evil demon succubi as a source of pride. LOL

 No.191536

>>191535
please spare me your faggot bullshit.

 No.191537

>>191525
I've found crabs tend to get REALLY triggered by the word acephobia.

 No.191538

>>191535
>that pic

This pride nonsense really made everybody lose. Look at those idiots being proud of themselves for no reason. Instead of calling out 'proud faggots' for being the retards, manipulated people they are, decide to follow on their footsteps. Nice strategy, idiots.

 No.191539

>>191535
Who said anything about pride? Obviously the idea of sexuality pride is silly and implies one's sexuality is not the default.

And the point isn't about 3d succs. Deliberately directing any of your arousal to them is degrading and normalfaggotry. But if you don't find pure 2d maidens incredibly beautiful and attractive you're seriously mentally ill. You should perhaps not even be included among the ranks of the human beings.

I will admit, though, that fapping to and watching hetero 3dpd is much worse than doing it to 2d yaoi, bara, non-straight shotacon, etc.

 No.191540

>>191520
Your "data" being based on in-cel science and researches, I assume. Why is it that in-cels like you can never detach from your complexes? Obviously you obsess over how you look and all that and so think it is the most important thing in the universe. Guess again.

>good looking men are the most successful with succubi

Haha, no. You can be the most handsome guy on Earth but if you are a hobo then no wo-man will take you seriously. And what is handsome when it comes to males? Most "good looking" men are just men who are popular, rich or high status. People like Johnny Depp, Dicaprio or Brad Pitt aren't particularly good looking, they are average looking. I know males who look like them or even better and yet they aren't popular with wo-men especially, because they work simple wageslave jobs. Money is what attracts wo-men and anyone who isn't a teenager anymore can understand this.

You are young, horny, thirsty and you project your unfulfilled desires unto wymen. Thinking all they care about is looks and muscles. HAHA! The whole "pool cleaner guy fucks the rich man's wife" or the "pizza delivery boy bangs the whore of some rich man" things are memes, porn memes to be exact. And porn always reflects the desires of those who are thirsty, porn is always aimed at low status males who aren't popular with wymen. Don't believe it. If succubi cheat then they make sure to do it with a guy that is even richer and more powerful than their current partner is.

You disturbingly lack knowledge about the real world and real people and how they work. It's not that complex an issue, come on. Also laughed at how succubi supposedly enjoy sex more than males, according to crab logic. While it is common knowledge that they can barely reach orgasm during sex and it is wymen who don't care about sex all that much, on the other hand males are ready to do anything to get a little pussy.

>people can't miss on sex

Yes, they can't, unless they avoid it intentionally. You can always pay a hooker to get sex, that's what actual crabs do when they are 20 or even sooner.

 No.191541

>>191540
the so-called paradox of "ugly men" who succubi like is just that they are ugly too US as men. Overly masculine traits are distasteful to us. What we find the most attractive men isn't the same as succubi.

So even so-called ugly guys, have rugged high-test traits. It doesn't mean looks don't matter to succubi. It means that the only looks succubi care about are high-t. Even if it is displeasing to us men. We are hetero men. So the ultra-masculine might look displeasing to us.

 No.191542

>>191541
Males and females are different sexes, obviously. Why does it pain you and others so much that females select their partners based on different patterns than males do? Like I said, you can be good looking in whatever sense of the word, if you are a homeless guy no succ will fuck you or even treat you as a man.

 No.191545

>>191542
black homeless guys flirt with succubi all the time.

 No.191546

The only true crabs are poorcels and mentalcels. 0/10 ugly guys get pussy all the time.
But, for a person born into poverty destined to work minimum wage for life, sustaining even oneself is a tireless battle. Room for a succubus and marriage is an impossibility. Dates are a fiasco if you're living paycheck to paycheck. Normalfags want to spend $200+ in a single evening on restaurant food and 300% upcharged overpriced alcohol from bars. A single date can ruin a poorcel's finances for a month. The shame of not being able to socialize with a normal budget stops poorcels from even trying and ruins their confidence.
Mentalcels are on a path of self-destruction and hate themselves and everyone too much to even try. Self-defeating fatalism philosophies drive otherwise attractive and rich people from participating in dating.

These are the only 2 real types of crabs.
People blaming their face and obscure anatomical abnormalities like wrist and finger size are coping so hard it's like they don't even go outside. I see 0/10 Jews and hapas that are a mere 5'5" with 10/10 succubi out on dates and holding hands all the time. It's because they do not suffer from mental illness and poverty, the only 2 true factors in crabdom.

 No.191547

>>191546
Also, RE: black homeless guys from the post above: yes even being penniless doesn't necessarily stop one from having sex. I have seen homeless black niggers kissing my co-workers with tongue.
But that's all they'll get, flings and loveless promiscuous sex. A poorcel will never have a true relationship and poverty will eventually turn you into a mentalcel too after enough time has passed living in such bleak conditions and wageslave toiling.

 No.191549

>>191546
> I see 0/10 Jews and hapas that are a mere 5'5" with 10/10 succubi out on dates and holding hands all the time
These are just exceptions. Like a typical normie you can't see the forest from the trees.

 No.191550

>>189276
What's a black pill? I'm not fluent in zoomer lingvo

 No.191551

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>>191549
Sorry but if even pic related has had a dozen girlfriends and sex hundreds of times, I think it's time to accept that succubi don't care about looks as much as you think they do. It's exclusively money and mental health.

 No.191552

>>191547
your middle class sweet white suburban succubi are fucking homeless black niggers and you're still arguing having a stable job is hot. i don't need to make an argument to you. your own eyes are seeing it. argue with them.

 No.191554

>>191552
Fucking and a relationship are two different things.
crabs don't want "just sex" , they could buy a prostitute. They want marriage, which poorcels will never have the budget for as they struggle to feed even themselves.

 No.191555

>>191554
Money is a thing of value. What value are they getting from homeless blacks?

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>>191542
>>191547
>if you are a homeless guy no succ will fuck you or even treat you as a man.
>yes even being penniless doesn't necessarily stop one from having sex. I have seen homeless black niggers kissing my co-workers with tongue.
Make up your fucking mind please.

 No.191557


 No.191558

>>191555
No strings attached sex with someone who isn't a mental cripple.

 No.191559

I think you're both right to some extend. I tend to agree that looks matter the most and when it comes down to bonding are supposed to be the most desired aspect to go for, since the looks reflect a numerous amount of person's inner parameters like testosterone levels or certain personality traits. That's why sometimes you look at a person and like them insantly.
When that primal way of bonding fails, a more conscious approach takes it's place, that's why shitton of foids fuck around, then settle down going for a rich and/or caring guy. It doesn't mean they are sexually attracted to or love the guy. Same with smart succs, they'll go for a more caring and/or rich guy, because their conscious pattern recognition mechanisms work better resulting in them understanding the traits reflected in the looks better, thus avoiding flawed relationships, as well as planning ahead due to a more logical thinking overall, thus avoiding some of the more lust-driven relationships.
All normals are built the same with some minor details varying, but not all of them grow up the same, a social development differs dramatically from person to person, from culture to culture, that's why I think you are just talking about different thing here: a primal form of bonding and sexuality versus a more conscious socially challenged form of it. Both are the same in their roots.

 No.191560

>>191558
so homeless blacks are less mentally crippled than niceguy crabs?

 No.191561

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>>191551

Status, they care primarily about your status. You can by ugly af as long as you are high status and many of them are going to want to be with you.

Look at people like Harvey Weinstein now look at his ex-wife or look at Kim Dotcom and his wife or look Anna Nicole Smith and her last husband in the picture in this post.

 No.191562

>>191560
unironically yes.
>>191561
thank you for being reasonable

 No.191563

>>191540
> People like Johnny Depp, Dicaprio or Brad Pitt aren't particularly good looking, they are average looking
What?
I actually agree somewhat with what you said during this entire thread but the fact you actually think dicaprio and pitt are 'average' is super retarded.
I don't want to sound like a faggot but bradd pit and young caprio are very good looking, the fact that those two aren't overfat alone puts them in the top 9% of Americans, no kidding look it up.

 No.191564

>>191551
You can point to all the exceptions you want, doesn't change the fact that the men with the greatest quality and quantity of succubi available to them are rich, famous and physically attractive.

 No.191565

>>191547
>Also, RE: black homeless guys from the post above: yes even being penniless doesn't necessarily stop one from having sex. I have seen homeless black niggers kissing my co-workers with tongue.
But that's all they'll get, flings and loveless promiscuous sex. A poorcel will never have a true relationship and poverty will eventually turn you into a mentalcel too after enough time has passed living in such bleak conditions and wageslave toiling.

That is exactly the kind of sex most young males want. So homeless niggers are getting the best sex in the world. its so opposite to your own point.

as for it being like prostitutes. that is an exchange of money. your rich white coworker babes are practically paying the homeless black men for sex.

What is a homeless black providing of value? His high-test traits. Which is a biological feature. Which is revealed in the phenotype of his LOOKS. LOOKS are the true high-test personality. And not something that can be faked with pick up lines.

 No.191566

>>191540
Physical appearance of males is part of status, though. Succubi lose status if they are with an unattractive male. This is important. Of course if the mega has a lot of status in other parameters then it they can accept the physical attractiveness

>People like Johnny Depp, Dicaprio or Brad Pitt aren't particularly good looking, they are average looking.

youre wrong about that

 No.191568

>>191540
>good looking men are not the most succesful with succubi
>you can be the most handsome guy on Earth but if you are a hobo then no wo-man will take you seriously
> People like Johnny Depp, Dicaprio or Brad Pitt aren't particularly good looking
More retardposting from your part I see. Stating that Brad Pitt or Dicaprio aren't "particularly" good looking, when the reason why they became big Hollywood stars is MAINLY because they are good looking is just acting on bad faith at this point. I don't know what porn has to do with anything so it's obvious that you're again grasping at straws because you lost the argument.
Also, video related, homeless guy can pick up succubi because he is good looking, succubi clearly don't care about that fact.
>You disturbingly lack knowledge about the real world and real people and how they work. It's not that complex an issue, come on
This is funny coming from the retard who denies basic facts such as the more good looking you are the more success you will have with succubi and have to make retarded arguments such as "handsome hobos will have a hard time with succubi because they don't have money or status", when that again, is completely false. The truth is there for everyone who wants to see it. I don't know why someone like you has to come to Wizchan to lie to everyone about something that is so obvious. Maybe you're lacking attention in real life so this is your way of getting some.

 No.191575

>>189276
https://asha.motes.camp
Talks about how men of the Light turning to the dark leads to the fall of mankind.

 No.191582

This thread should be nuked because its infested with redpill and pua lies reading normals, these people do not belong to wizchan

 No.191583

I know it hurts being the rejected ugly guy, but if you look at it objectively, the Black Pill is a much better and fair world than the Red Pill.

If you look at the "personality traits" Red Pill PUA advocates its being an asshole jerk bad boy. The opposite of the nice guy. And that is what will reward you with sex, the biggest evopsych reward. Not only is that bad for the succubus who gets a douche who treats her like shit. Its bad for society as a whole. Because the worst behavior gets the best reward.

If hot succubi just pair up with hot guys. Who can objectively complain about that? Like matches like. Looksmatch. 8=8. Its like a force of gravity. And the hot guy might be nice or an ass, doesn't matter its only his looks that count. Sure the fact that his looks make life so easy for him, might tend him towards an ass, since he can get away with it. But the same goes for Stacies and their reputation as mean succubi. They don't have to be bad, like PUA says, but if they are, they wont be punished for it.

Red Pill PUA = badness mandatory

Black Pill= badness optional

And as Wizards neutrally living in this society, its better for us that looks are rewarded rather than asshole sociopathy

 No.191589

The blackpill is real, LOOKS ARE EVERYTHING. Being good looking not only will help you to find a mate, but it literally affects every single aspect of your life.
How people treat you, how much you earn, what opportunities you get, how employable you are, how much respect you get from your peers, what quality of life you'll have… Everything is based on your looks.

 No.191592

>>191545
So? What does that mean? Even undesirable people can flirt with others, that doesn't mean they will get anything serious from succubi.

>>191546
Poorcel is true, mentalcel isn't. Even autists get gfs or mentally retarded people.

>>191556
We are two different people, I maintain that as a homeless guy no wo-man will sleep with your or date with you, unless they are mentally unstable.

>>191563
>>191566
No, these people aren't attractive because they are especially good looking, you can see men like them all the time. Your average party animal football player high school alpha guy is most of the time even more handsome than these actors. They are considered attractive because they have high status, they are famous and rich. That is all.

Physical appearance of FEMALES is part of status, not of males. Succubi marry old or ugly people all the time and even take pride in it. When did you see a famous man marrying a granny, a fat whale or an ugly wo-man? Never, that is when.

>>191568
Lol at these videos, they are the same kind of thing you'd see in Disney movies. Meaning they don't mirror reality at all. Succubi dating or having sex with homeless or poor man isn't a thing, it never was, there are exceptions but overall money and status are what matter the most. And no, those actors aren't particularly handsome, they are considered handsome because they appear in movies and the media pushes them so much. You can encounter men who look better than them and yet they don't have as much success as these famous people, simply because they are low or average status.

What basic facts? Lol again, you just parrot r9kid crap, which is like I said based on porn and delusional teenagers who hate themselves because of inferiority complex. Succubi pick people based on completely different things than on what grounds men choose succubi. It is basic biology, if anything. It isn't the prettiest male animal that gets sex, it is the strongest one, always. The one that is more violent, aggressive and powerful than others gets the female. You don't even know this much kiddo. You people are so delusional I don't even know how some people can be like this.

>>191550
For stupid crabs it means that "looks are everything in this world", when it is clearly false for males. They confuse the sexes to a dramatic extent.

>>191549
No, the exception is when succubi date or fall in love with weak, poor, low status beta males. It is quite ordinary for succubi to date ugly rich/powerful people and to marry them.

 No.191594

>>191592
>We are two different people, I maintain that as a homeless guy no wo-man will sleep with your or date with you, unless they are mentally unstable.

Well that wiz, who is actually on your side, against the black pill, with his own eyes sees his middle class white succubus coworkers tongue kissing homeless black guys. a hostile witness who proves us right on everything

 No.191595

>>191594
The exception isn't the rule, mate. Mentally unstable succs do stuff like that or if they want attention. And let's not forget that it is trendy nowadays to have a black bf. It is essentially virtue signaling most of the time in cases like these.

The "nymphomaniac" is just a modern myth, that was created by feminists and porn writers. Wymen are pretty down to earth and business like when it comes to "love", they care about what kind of car you drive and how much is in your wallet, not about how many packs of muscles you have or how strong your jawline is. This is like I said many times already here, I mean this whole "looks matter the most" is just projection on your part. Because you as a male choose succubi based on tits, asses and how sexy they are (not irl but whenever you see succs even in media you are attracted to them based on their looks mostly). But the succubus thinks differently, she is a pragmatic, materialist person who needs to leech off someone. They leech off on others' wealth, influence, power, fame, etc.

 No.191596

>>191595
Look at Tinder, the most popular way to date for zoomers, where succubi literally order males like a pizza menu delivery, based solely on looks and superior chad DNA.

 No.191598

>>191596
See what I wrote about attention whores above and mentally unstable wymen? Yep. This is the case. They are trying to suggest that this is normal when actually it isn't, it never was, succs don't have proper sex drives either way.

 No.191599

>>191598
So the whole generations of millennial and zoomer succubi?

 No.191600

>>191599
Probably. Most succs aren't whores because they like sex so much, they just want attention and to feel important. Heck, wymen don't even enjoy sex in most cases.

 No.191601

>>191600
If the whole population of fertile succubi is abnormal, then thats the new normal

 No.191602

>>191601
Considering it is just a masquerade ultimately, no. This is why so many succubi are sick in the head in our culture. Because they weren't built for this life. They only naturally desire sex in order to get children or to get something from males in turn. Sex for sex's sake is something foreign to the nature of succubi.

 No.191603

>>191602
well you said they trade sex for money. and with onlyfans they can trade just shaking their butt from their house for money

 No.191604

>>191603
That is in accordance with their nature. Same for actual "sex work". In fact this is their true nature.

What is unnatural is that they try to pretend they are the epic nympho hehe who just look forward to fucking when it is just a lie. They don't enjoy sex as much as males do and weren't ever interested in it as much males were.

 No.191605

>>191604
there would be no evopsych reason for succubi to hate sex. evopsych would make succubi orgasm to rape, to have chad sons who can rape many more

 No.191606

What's even the point of all this theorizing, anyway? Like, what if one side is right and the other is delusional? What different would it even make?

 No.191607

>>191606
It’s just to help rationalize the way the world works and our place in it. It’s like seeing a wolf eat a baby rabbit. Our emotions tells us to be sad, but if you can see it’s just nature playing it’s course then it’s easier to come to peace with it.

 No.191608

>>191602
>They only naturally desire sex in order to get children or to get something from males in turn.
Sure anon succubi are having a shitton of no strings attached sex with incredibly attractive men despite getting nothing out of it.

 No.191609

>>191608
>despite getting nothing out of it.
are free drugs and meals nothing?

 No.191613

>>191592
>Physical appearance of FEMALES is part of status, not of males
>No, Brad Pitt and Leonardo Dicaprio aren't attractive because they are especially good looking
>they are considered handsome because they appear in movies
>money and status are what matter the most
> It isn't the prettiest male animal that gets sex, it is the strongest one, always.
Yes, you've already confirmed to us that you are a retarded, you don't have to repeat yourself any further. Thank you and have a nice day.

 No.191631

What the relaton between autism and wizardry? I think why of us being they way that we are is because alot of us are autistic is someway.

 No.191634

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>>191631
Probably more important is the simple fact that we never pursue succubi in the first place. All this talk about looks and black pills, yet no one here has even asked out a succubus in their whole life.

 No.191635

Crab thread

 No.191636

>>191605
Nature isn't constructed logically.
I'm not saying they hate sex but they aren't as enthusiastic about it as males are, that's for sure.

>>191608
>getting nothing out of it
Really? They can show their friends, "look this guy had sex with me and this too and that too, wow I'm so cool! I'm soo bad" And what about the countless gifts, flowers, trips and meals they get in the dating process?

>>191613
Continue to live in denial, boy. One day hopefully you will realize what love is all about for succubi: getting resources, money and power without effort.

>>191606
Nothing, we are just wasting time here debating with others. It's not different from the politics thread.

>>191634
>yet no one here has even asked out a succubus in their whole life.
You sure about that? Considering the tourists that come here nowadays I'm not so sure if this is entirely true.

 No.191637

>>191636
>keep living in denial
>looks don't matter to succubi they're not sexually attracted to good looking men but Jeff Bezos rich
>it's just about money and power
>looks have no relation to status or money
>brad pitt and leonardo dicaprio aren't particularly good looking
>succubi don't enjoy sex
>succubi just have sex for attention

Dumb Redpill Nonsense.

 No.191638

>>191637
It is how real life works. Status and money come before looks in the case of men. You aware that Dicaprio and others I mentioned are rich and famous, right? Just to make sure…

 No.191639

>>191638
Dicaprio and Brad Pitt are rich and famous because of their looks.

 No.191640

>>191639
Um no? If you go by looks alone there are many more handsome males who should be rich and famous. I am sure you can find handsome boys on the streets too who sell their bodies for a little dope and money but they don't rule the world.

They are considered to have "good looks" because they are rich and famous. You got things backwards. If you ended up somehow as a movie star tomorrow and movies would feature you then make no mistake, succubi would line up before your door to have sex with you.

 No.191645

>>191640
Is that why succubi were fawning over that jeremy meek guy a while ago? because he was rich and famous?

 No.191646

>>191640
>Brad Pitt and Leonardo Dicaprio are considered to have "good looks" because they are rich and famous
>you got it backwards
They got to where they are because of their good looks. They were already considered good looking before they were big movie stars. You're really stupid.
You can't brainwash people into believing a deformed person is beautiful just because he appeared in movies. It doesn't work that way.
We don't need to know if a person is rich or poor to determine whether they're good looking or ugly.
>Um no? If you go by looks alone there are many more handsome males who should be rich and famous. I am sure you can find handsome boys on the streets too who sell their bodies for a little dope and money but they don't rule the world.
You have a weird obsession with handsome hobos and junkies to always bring them up as silly examples for your non-arguments.
How come you ended up on wizchan while holding such stupid beliefs about the nature of the world?

 No.191656

>>191646
>How come you ended up on wizchan while holding such stupid beliefs about the nature of the world?


Are you saying stupid guys are more likely to have had gfs and sex?

 No.191662

>>191646
>We don't need to know if a person is rich or poor to determine whether they're good looking or ugly.

This. I'm sick of these low-IQ bluepilled copes like "if you just work hard enough, succubi will like you!"

No, we have plenty of evidence from dating apps, or even the above mentioned Jeremy Meeks: All it takes is looks. succubi lust and are just as visual as men if not even more than that.

Why doesn't Jack Ma have groupies like he does? Why aren't tons of 20 year old succubi lusting over him like they did over Meeks' police mugshot?
Because he is a fucking ugly short alien motherfucker despite being one of the richest people on the planet.

Money gets you absolutely nothing but vapid golddiggers who shun and detest you physically but will tolerate you to extract holidays, money and resources off you.

succubi are just as visual as men. They hate ugly men and will only tolerate them if they have tons of money.
Stop telling wizards everything is going to be ok as long as we just get money or status. It doesn't work like that.
NOBODY is attracted to ugly people in this life and there is no such thing as purely being attracted to someone's money or status.

If you were born ugly faced and short like me, there is no amount of money that will change the fact people shun you. The only way I could ever be non-shunned was if I was a billionaire like Jack Ma, and even then succubi would shun me & not feel genuine raw attraction towards me.

 No.191663

>>191634
succubi gives cues to men they like so men should approach them, if you didn’t get the cues or understand it approaching or asking succubi will not make difference because you will be rejected

 No.191664

>>191662
%100 truth in this post

 No.191666

>>191663
They also don't do this to all men, they give these cues to attractive men.

And for the very top tier men above those attractive men ('chads, i.e. tall, jacked body, very attractive face'), succubi approach them themselves.
Not just in real life, but in dating apps which have thousands of simps desperately vying for these succubis attention. They will literally message first if lucky enough to match with a chad.

 No.191668

You niggas can't just admit that being handsome help alot in your life? What the fuck, if being ugly isok you would see alot of ugly people working in modeling.

 No.191669

>>191668
reality is too depressing for most men so they have to come up with all sorts of copes to not go insane

 No.191670

>>191663
>>191666
ayo dead ass G my bad pimp that's just what happen when you're a motherfucker real ass b0ss real mothefuckerfin playa, G, the shorties just love u!

 No.191671

>>191645
I don't know who you are talking about. Really. But if succubi fawn over someone then doesn't that mean he is famous?

>>191646
They aren't ugly, but like I said a thousand times already you can find people like them on every corner basically. They got where they are because of luck and connections, like most Hollywood stars did, it is an exclusive circlejerk.

It's not brainwashing, succubi literally are crazy about famous men. It doesn't matter how ugly the man in question is or what he did, he could be a criminal or a rock star, as long as he is popular there will be succubi in love with him.

I could ask the same of you, how did you end up here while having blind faith in crab dogmas like looks are everything for males?

>>191662
lol How can anyone be this deluded? Money gets you everything. Again, come and tell me when did supermodel succubi marry or had sex with hobos and poor people? Status and money are everything. You are a teenager probably, that is why you are so obsessed with your appearance or you are just gay deep down. Either way
>there is no such thing as purely being attracted to someone's money or status
oh if only you knew…you have no idea how succubi work, okay, I see

>"if you just work hard enough, succubi will like you!"

>Stop telling wizards everything is going to be ok as long as we just get money or status. It doesn't work like that.
Look, there are many fugly people having sex and having gfs after gfs. Why? Because they have money they can spend on wymen. That is what gets you pussy, not your pretty face or your muscles. Why do you think it is so common that if the male loses his job or his financial stability then the relationship will end with divorce?? Because succubi are vapid golddiggers as you put it, it is not just a group among succs, it is literally what their sex is about. They seduce males for protection and resources, they been doing this since forever. They don't care about sex like you do, most succubi don't even masturbate and not because they get sex easily but simply they don't desire sexual pleasure for itself.
Get off r9k and go observe actual people in the real world and how they behave, kid.
>If you were born ugly faced and short like me
Yep, like I guessed. You are obsessed with your height and face and don't see the full picture.

>>191668
Being beautiful helps a lot, if you are a female. Or gay. For men, money and status and power and being assertive/confident are much more important.

>>191669
It is exactly you "blackpill" in-cels who are coping so hard. Because you think females think just like you, which couldn't be farther away from the truth. Not everyone is the same person as you, you know? You may search for porn based on how attractive the pornstar is but succs desire different things entirely. They want a strong man, not some pretty boy who can't even protect himself, let alone his gf.

 No.191672

>>189282
average for men is a 0/10 for succubi

 No.191673

>>191671
>But if succubi fawn over someone then doesn't that mean he is famous?
jeremy meeks wasn't famous at all, dude was a literal nobody and a convicted criminal on top of that.
>"The same day, Meeks' and the other men's mugshots were posted on the Stockton Police Department's Facebook page.[9] Within 24 hours from when the photos were posted to the department's page, Meeks' photo had acquired more than 15,000 "likes" and 3,700 comments,[11] mostly from succubi enamored with his looks."
Quote took straight from wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Meeks

 No.191674

>>191673
ignore that dumb bluepilled nigger
he is literally incapable of grasping something as basic as being good looking means you will be more successful with the opposite sex. He thinks young succubi wet their pants when they see a cancer ridden granpa who is a millionaire.
Everyone who disagrees with him about looks being important is just a crab or r9k kid. It's hilarious.

 No.191675

That which is for me through the medium of money – that for which I can pay (i.e., which money can buy) – that am I myself, the possessor of the money. The extent of the power of money is the extent of my power. Money’s properties are my – the possessor’s – properties and essential powers. Thus, what I am and am capable of is by no means determined by my individuality. I am ugly, but I can buy for myself the most beautiful of succubi. Therefore I am not ugly, for the effect of ugliness – its deterrent power – is nullified by money. I, according to my individual characteristics, am lame, but money furnishes me with twenty-four feet. Therefore I am not lame. I am bad, dishonest, unscrupulous, stupid; but money is honoured, and hence its possessor. Money is the supreme good, therefore its possessor is good. Money, besides, saves me the trouble of being dishonest: I am therefore presumed honest. I am brainless, but money is the real brain of all things and how then should its possessor be brainless? Besides, he can buy clever people for himself, and is he who has power over the clever not more clever than the clever? Do not I, who thanks to money am capable of all that the human heart longs for, possess all human capacities? Does not my money, therefore, transform all my incapacities into their contrary?

 No.191676

very correlated op
uggos dont get laid so naturally they go into weird shit

 No.191678

On the risk of sounding like a fenceshitter, both sides have a point. When succubi are young, hot and horny they genuinly lust after the good looking males. But once they get too old and ugly for these men who have their pick, and their time to reproduce runs out they look for someone who will provide for them and their children. Guess which males prefer.

 No.191679

>>191678
maybe your ghetto trash and redneck hillbillies, nice white middle class suburban succubi from good families and good schools would never behave like that. they like nice guys who treat them with respect. they are civilized and not like your apes of the jungle

 No.191680

>>191679
I am a civilized middle class white and all the succubi I know would probably act like that. I can’t confirm cause I obviously don’t like to pry about the sexual activities of my female relatives, but the amount of drinking and partying they claim to partake in leads me to believe they are having relatively casual sex.

 No.191681

>>191680
Yeah but only with nice boys who treat them right and buy them gifts

 No.191682

>>191679
>muh white succubi like nice guys who treat them right with respect, they are civilized
cringe.

 No.191683

>>191682
Honestly this thread should be nuked so hard at this point that the whole site would go offline for at a week or two.

 No.191684


 No.191690

I was thinking about the relationship between money and succubi ITT. And I realize that being "nice" to a succubus basically amounts to spending a lot of cash on a succubus. While a bad boy jerk doesn't invest enough.

Like when you think of niceness towards a succubus, sure nice pretty words, kind gestures, roses and chocolates count. But a diamond is better than a rose. Which isn't to say there aren't plenty of nasty rich guys who buy love with money. Its certainly possible to spend a lot but not be nice. But once a baseline of niceness is established. Just don't be abusive, say nice things. Then all other things being equal, money is nicer. Better a house than chocolates. One can make pretty speeches about wanting to protect and care for her or actually do it with money.

So objectively the "nicest" thing one can do for a succubus is be rich.

 No.191700

i know a lot of crab/mgtow shit is sexually oriented, but i still always thought black pill was more like another term for general nihilism. the first time i saw a sexual focus attributed to it was rationalwiki's article on it. most of the time i have seen black pill being used did not seem like tfw no pepe crabspeak given the context.

 No.191701

>>191700
Black pill is simply any fact of life that reminds one of the darkness of reality. A blackpill could be "we will all die", "no one will remember you", and in this case, "no one will ever love you".

 No.191703

>>191673
You say that as if being a criminal is something that succubi hated…It's the exact opposite of what you think, criminals are held in special status in the eyes of succs. It is like being a rockstar or a football player to them. Why do you think serial killers and psychopath gangsters are so popular and receive love letters in prison? Not because they are so pretty but because succubi are attracted to violent, aggressive and cruel people, they see these men as powerful. Succubi want strong men and protection.

>>191674
>bluepilled nigger
Back to r9k and pol.
You are the ones who are mistaken when you assume succubi select their sexual partners and husbands based on how handsome they are, while in fact they want strong, powerful, rich men and they wet their panties when they think about people like Ted Bundy, Hitler or Charles Manson. You can be good looking and meek and autistic and poor…wy-men will despise you more than an ugly but aggressive guy.

>>191690
>>191675
Glad you people are more open-minded but it isn't entirely about money either, it is about power in any form. Whether it is fame, physical power/being an aggressive alpha, having high status or simply being rich doesn't matter.

>>191678
I was told by numerous succubi that I'm very handsome yet I'm on the wiz path because I'm considered 'weird' and because I never chased/approached any succubi. Also I hate people in general. I told a few of my female co-workers that I was a virgin (yeah, I don't really care what they think but was curious how they'd react) and they were all surprised and thought I was joking at first. However as the discussion went on I also mentioned I had depression and had a suicide attempt…that was the point I saw their faces show disgust. Afterward they treated me like some lunatic.

Appearances and looks don't matter if you aren't normal or if you don't behave in a socially/culturally accepted manner.

>>191701
>we will all die
That's a good thing.
>no one will remember you
Who cares? You will be dead.
>no one will ever love you
More like "love isn't real in the romantic sense". Normals only use each other. Males want to have sex with sexy succs and females want to have a high status partner. Both will cheat if the right opportunity presents itself, love is a meme.

 No.191704

I'm objectively handsome but am a wizard. crabdom does not depend on looks, at all. Physical fitness only matters marginally. Now obesity is a different story but if you're not in shape, it doesn't matter.
What really matters regarding sex is:
1) height
2) money
3) good social skills…being good at cynically manipulating others.
Thats pretty much it. If you have just one, let alone all three of those, you will get laid.

 No.191705

>>191703
>crabdom does not depend on looks what matters the most is 1. height
So being tall isn't related to a person's appearance, gotcha.

 No.191706

>>191703
>I was told by numerous succubi that I'm very handsome
>I never chased/approached any succubi.
You don't need to approach succubi since you're considered handsome by them, so they approached you instead like you just said. That's the power of looks. A succubus stopping to talk to you and tell you that you're handsome is a way for her to say that she is interested in you sexually.

 No.191708

>200 replies over a fact if being handsome or not is a cause to being a wizard

You niggas are dumb or what? Of course being handsome help, and alot,there was a dude that was a criminal but by simply being handsome motherfucker he got a job as a fucking model,now he's drowning in pussy, are you kidding me? Just lock this thread mods, NOW!

 No.191709

>>191708
>200 replies over a fact if being handsome or not is a cause to being a wizard


Duh, by definition all wizards must be volcel, and you aren't volcel if you are ugly

QED all wizards must be handsome of course

 No.191711

>>191709
Actually, many wizard are just shy AND autistic, a dangerous combination.

 No.191712

>>191711
a very common one though

how many extroverted autists are there?

 No.191716

>>191712
>Extrovert autist

From very hard effort, yeah, in can exist an extrovert autist, but never a natural one.

 No.191718

>>191716
lolcows like CWC?

 No.191722

>>191711
Lookists even go as far as to deny aspergers even exists, they look at aspie conferences and all the ugly geeks, they say their peers rejected them as kids because of how ugly they are and that is why they have no social skills. aspergers to them is just ugliness. the personality is determined by the looks.

 No.191723

>>191561
Yeah goldiggers care about status. succubi enter their goldigger face around their 30s, at that age a hot body or a pretty face won't really impress them since they have fucked tons of chads and pretty boys, they know their looks are quickly fading away so they wanna latch onto the male with the highest status they can get their hands on.

 No.191724

>>191723
well why is it so shameful to be attractive for your money? why is looks good, money bad?

 No.191725

>>191722
personality is shaped by a combination of nature and nurture. Nature is your genes, and it's your genes that determine whether you will be autistic or neurotypical.
>>191724
the one with the looks got the advantage over the ugly man who had to study and work hard so he could land a good job and finally marry an old wife that isn't even a virgin and who's been filled with the sperm of dozens of more attractive men during her youth but now had to settle down.
A good looking man is naturally attractive to a succubus and treated better by their peers, he grows up to be confident since everyone likes him, fucks any succubi he likes from a young age, lands good jobs by nepotism, and doesn't have to worry about much. It's really hard for them to lose at life. The life of an ugly man is full of hardships in every aspect and fear of not ever making it.
You could argue that being beautiful in itself is a form of wealth because just as everyone loves money there's not a single person who doesn't love beautiful people.
>well why is it so shameful to be attractive for your money?
It's not really but if a guy wanted to hang out with you just because he knows you are rich, and he is constantly asking you for money, isn't really interested in you as a person, besides the fact that you are filthy rich, would you call him a real friend or like him?

 No.191728

>>191725
succubi get offended if you only like them for their looks. guys don't. but normie males never say no to any sex.

since succubi are the ones whose lives are more defined by looks, i think it shows that being liked only for looks is comparable to being liked only for cash

 No.191734

>>191724
Because a succubus will never truly love you if she isn't physically attracted to you. She will use you for your money, yes, but she will always be bitter at you because you're not the Chad she actually wants to fuck. A lot of beta providers get cheated on and end up raising kids that aren't even theirs, because succubi might want their resources, but don't want to pass on their genes.

 No.191736

>>191706
No, these were succubi I met day after day because of study or work. Of course we ended up talking eventually. They saying I'm handsome wasn't flirting, it was like stating a flower is beautiful or a painting looks good, they didn't care about me. I saw them flirting with men (usually high status or popular guys) and they were way more obvious in those cases.

If you don't chase succubi then you won't have sex most likely as a male, unless you are popular, famous, wealthy, etc. You can rot for all they care.

>>191708
see >>191703

>>191723
Golddiggers isn't a subgroup among succubi, it is what the entire sex is about basically and you crabs fail to grasp this.

>>191724
Because to the in-cel who has inferiority complex everything is about looks, at least in his deluded mind. That's why they don't go to whores, because that would be "shameful" for them. To give money to a succubus to like you? Nah, that can't be. (Even though through history it was always the case, men gave money to succubi and provided for them and succs gave sex in return.) These people are completely brainwashed by internet communities to believe nonsensical and childish dogmas like these are truth. Truly, it is a mental illness at this point.

>>191725
Having autismo genes and being "ugly" are different things entirely and if you think these are related or even on the same level then you are just stupid. People don't become autists because they were ugly, people are born autists. There are many spergs and autists who look completely average or even handsome. The two aren't related at all.

>the one with the looks got the advantage over the ugly man who had to study and work hard so he could land a good job and finally marry an old wife that isn't even a virgin and who's been filled with the sperm of dozens of more attractive men during her youth but now had to settle down.

Never heard about inheritance and people who got money effortlessly, I see. Continue to live in your deluded Wonderland where succubi are more lustful than men, have a higher sex drive than men and chose their men based on how many packs of muscles they have on them. I don't know why I bother arguing with you people at all.
And if you terrified by the whole "who's been filled with the sperm of dozens of more attractive men during her youth" part then don't complain about being a virgin because succubi are like that, they naturally have more partners during life because they don't have to do anything. Even alphas have sex with succubi like that lots of times. Nobody stops to check "Wait, so before we have sex, let's see your history succubus, how many men did you sleep with during your life? Were they ATTRACTIVE? Did they look better than me?! Answer me!!" because yeah, it would be retarded.

Your entire next part of being handsome means everything in life mirrors how confused you are. Looks matter for succubi, if they look good their life becomes infinitely easy. For men, it doesn't matter as much as you think. If anything, it can be a negative thing. Pretty boys and handsome men are bullied by sour grapes retards like you and envious testosterone overdosed alphas, seen it many times. Men don't like handsome men and fear them (because they stupidly think looks are important, while not, men select succubi based on how they look like, succs select partners based on other things).

>You could argue that being beautiful in itself is a form of wealth because just as everyone loves money there's not a single person who doesn't love beautiful people.

You mean aside from people like you and other bitter betas with inferiority complexes?

>if a guy wanted to hang out with you just because he knows you are rich, and he is constantly asking you for money, isn't really interested in you as a person, besides the fact that you are filthy rich, would you call him a real friend or like him?

So according to you succubi care about looks only. They are attracted to good looking men, says you. What is the difference between someone loving your body/looks and your wallet? These are just things you possess, succubi don't care about you in either of these case because they use you anyway.

>>191734
So many wrong with this post but I'll try to keep it short. First, can you crab kiddos forget concepts like friendship and love already? They don't exist, these were invented for the sake of deluding people and keeping the herd together. Nobody loves anyone except for themselves, being attracted to someone is another thing entirely. Second, why do you care about passing on your genes? What does it matter whose son you raise, yours or some other people's? People get together with succubi to get sex, not because they want children. It doesn't matter if you pass on your genes or not, you are built to feel orgasms one way or another, either through masturbation or sex. Children are unwanted consequences most of the time. Third, like I said many times, succubi want to feel safe and protected and live life on easy mode. A good looking man can't necessarily give her these, while a rich and powerful man can. So looks don't matter for succubi as much as they matter for you.

 No.191738

>>191736
>Having autismo genes and being "ugly" are different things entirely and if you think these are related or even on the same level then you are just stupid.
Only they are related, dumbass
https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/clinical-research-facial-features-can-help-diagnose-autism/
>Recent research has shed light on a more subtle difference - facial features. Scientists at the University of Missouri found that children with autism share certain facial features that distinguish them from other children
>The study found that children with autism have an unusually broad upper face, including wide-set eyes. They also have a shorter middle region of the face, including the cheeks and nose.
>Children with autism have a broader or wider mouth and philtrum - the groove below the nose, above the top lip.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22669539/
>The present findings showed that morphological features are significantly increased in patients with autism. Using ROC and RP, some of the morphological measures also led to strong predictive accuracy.
>Facial asymmetry, multiple hair whorls and prominent forehead significantly differentiated patients with autism from controls.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20473590/
>Our findings show that morphological features are associated with autism.

Come back when you have an actual argument, kid. Calling others delusional or crabs isn't an argument. Good looking people no matter their sex got the advantage in society because being good looking is an asset. It's not my problem that this fact pains you so much that you completely deny it and try to overlook it.

 No.191739

>>191736
>Truly, it is a mental illness at this point

Did you hear about crabs getting leg-lengthening surgery? They cut their legs in half and then stick a log between it.

 No.191741

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>>191739
>wtf is this guy talking about
>that can't be real
>how that would even work, you just stretch all your veins ad muscles too and compromise your entire health for it?
>nah must that's bullshit
>google it
>ffs
>it's actually a thing people do

It's a sad world when even with all my depression and anedonia I'm still quickly becoming one of the last sane individuals left out there.

 No.191742

>>191704
>>191703
Why retards like those who believe insane lies are still not banned?

 No.191744

>>191741
https://looksmax.org/threads/height-maxing-is-the-most-optimal-surgery-for-looks-maxing-for-people-54-and-under.415288/

>3. If the surgery is a complete failure, and say you have to get your legs removed - it cancels out your height. In BOTH situations - the stigma around your height is removed. Except if you'd be a cripple, there's stigma around that. but still - if you lie about your past height, no one would know. And being crippled is seen as better than being short by society.

 No.191745

>>191744
welp that topic alone is more depressing than all /dep/ put together I'll give you that much. My respect for wizchan's low quality posting also increased quite a bit, I forgot how the internet is outside the places I visit, turns out this shithole is pretty pristine after all.

When I actually leave my room I see ugly and/or short men with spouses/girlfriends/whatever ALL the time and I mean all the time, they're everywhere, which to me it strongly suggests the people on that site are really focusing on the wrong things but whatever, fuck them.

 No.191748

SO, be truthful, bros, are you ugly?

 No.191749

All you have to do to be volcel is say you're gay, the gay community doesn't have all this lookism like succubi do

 No.191750

>>191749
Gays have lookism too but its nowhere near as important as it is with hets. The biggest difference is that among gays average men can have endless easy sex with other average men, but twinks/traps and big dick tall handsome masculine men have an edge over everyone much like succubi.

 No.191752

>>191736
I agree with most of your posts, but I would say looks are as important to succubi as they are to men, they'll just compartmentalise their attraction, so they'll skip a low status guy they find attractive for a high status guy they don't, because finding a workhorse provider is more important - but this is basically what you're saying. Female sexuality is a complete meme, at least men are more honest.

 No.191753

Mods, lock this thread! Almost 250 replies full of pure unfiltered cope , holy shit, just cope after cope, damn.

 No.191756

succubi are all sexual masochists who really enjoy humiliation and domination. Its not humiliating to be with a hot guy. he is just the male version of a stacy. he is a prize himself.

the ugly and more brutish gorilla the man, the more it turns on the succubus. its so disguting and degrading to be with him. that really turns on the masochist side of a succubus.

just look at the most popular costume cosplay at comic con- Slave Leia. They even had to do a PSA over too many succubi doing Slave Leia. They love the idea of being forcibly chained and collared like a dog to a big fat slug like Jabba the Hutt.

An ugly guy who treats you like shit, is so degrading and humiliating to succubi, and succubi just love that.

 No.191772

>>191738
You can generalize things to large extents, like saying all whites are handsome and all blacks are ugly for example, but still you will find handsome men and ugly men both among blacks too. This is the same. You think normals and succubi perceive little facial and looks related stuff that only expert doctors/researchers can identify in someone? There are handsome autists and spergers out there. Not everything is related to looks. And what about genuinely ugly people who aren't autists? By this logic every ugly person should be an autist or sperglord and it isn't the case.

Your theory about lookism doesn't pain me, it just isn't true. Ugly people hold powerful positions and have high status lots of times. If what you say is true then fugly people should all be poor and low class without exception. You refuse to even consider that in the case of males different factors decide who is the alpha than in the case of succs and homosexuals.

>>191739
No but thanks for pointing it out to me. Yep, this is exactly what I am talking about. Never mind the fact that literal dwarf-type short men and ugly orcs get sex and gfs all the time, nah, it is ALWAYS about looks! This r9k crab mental illness is the new anorexia or hysteria of our age.

>>191752
I don't say that succubi don't notice if someone is handsome or not, just that their priorities lie somewhere else when it comes to choosing partners. Being good looking in the case of a man is somewhere on the bottom of the list, while for succubi being good looking always comes first because they can only offer men sexual pleasures and they know it, they don't have any other thing to give males.
>Female sexuality is a complete meme, at least men are more honest.
Female sexuality is the myth of the modern times and the result of some, very few in numbers, actual nympho feminists who projected their uncommon mentality onto their entire sex. Most succubi don't even masturbate and even when they have sex they have to fake orgasms most of the time. What people see in porn isn't reality, it is just what males desire.

>>191745
>>191741
Haha, this site is actually very sane and rational compared to 99% of the internet. Same for us wizzards, even the most mentally unstable wizard is more sane and sober than your average normal who never had any mental problems officially. In an insane world being seen as insane by society means you are rational and sober in your thinking.

>>191756
True. Succs are born to serve others, by others I mean "bad boys" and psychopaths mainly. You can be a poor, ugly NEET but if you are a criminal or cruel or aggressive then wymen will naturally be attracted to you - cruelty and violence mean high status in the eyes of wo-men. That and they assume such men will protect them from other dangers. While hilariously they end up being abused by their "saviors". Haha.

 No.191773

>>191772
>By this logic every ugly person should be an autist
Wow, you definitely can't fucking read or understand information.
>You think normals and succubi perceive little facial and looks related stuff
They do that's why they bully people based on their looks.
> Same for us wizzards, even the most mentally unstable wizard is more sane and sober than your average normal who never had any mental problems
>even the most mentally unstable wizard is more sane and sober than your average normal who never had any mental problems
Do you even read what you write or are you simply unable to see how stupid the things you write are? Sure, the most mentally ill person on this forum is more sane than your normalfag with no mental disorders or mental illness. Funny how stupid people are so convinced of the most stupid things and call others deluded, when they're the ones full of delusions
> Being good looking in the case of a man is somewhere on the bottom of the list
you can just be good looking and approach succubi, no need for money or anything, but keep telling you otherwise. You're blind to the world and how superficial succubi are if you think they only care about money and not looks.

 No.191774

>>191756
Another retard who believes insane lies…

 No.191780

All the hundreds of posts of denying ultimate truth that looks are EVERYTHING, if you’re ugly and non attractive like me you will be treated shit by everyone not only succubi.I can’t believe there are so many fools who deny objective truths like this, muscles , good loking face, height are everything for men and succubi are attracted to men like those obviously despite all the retards denying reality

 No.191781

>>191756
based bro

 No.191782

>>191772
>if you are a criminal or cruel or aggressive then wymen will naturally be attracted to you - cruelty and violence mean high status in the eyes of wo-men

yeah bad guys in cartoons are literally ugly hideous monsters, and succubi have a whole fandom of 50 shading it

the physical ugliness shows how evil you are inside, and nothing turns succubi on more than evil.

 No.191785

>>191782
>the physical ugliness shows how evil you are inside
if that was true someone like the elephant man would have been one of the most evil person in the world.

 No.191786

>>191785
In the comics he would be a monster with all the powers of an elephant

and in sex comics, stacies would orgasm when he rapes them with his trunk

 No.191808

>>191736
>Second, why do you care about passing on your genes? What does it matter whose son you raise, yours or some other people's?
Because not everyone is a cuck who wants to raise another man's creampie with his hard earned money.

 No.191809

>>191808
You should see the youtube comments around John Redcorn and Dale Gribble. They all make it sound like he is owning John, by basically kidnapping his kid and making it his own. So rather than walking out on Nancy, keeping John's son is the big win. The ultimate revenge. Denying a father his own bio-son just by playing dumb.

 No.191811

Male-Female relations are so weird.

I went through my whole teens and college, basically being an autistic wizard in my own world.

i didn't really look into this stuff until I was in my mid 20s. Its just so strange how different the sexes are, and the things that drive them to mate. And its not just about sex, its about all human behavior, since all that drives males is sex.

Its just so weird how males talk about succubi. How they hate them so much, and yet they want their affection, love and kindness so much. Like succubi are these evil demons. And you are some beta soycuck if you say anything nice about these demons. And yet the love of these demons is the most wonderful thing in the world. Not just the physical sex. But the warmth and goodness. As much as they hate succubi, they have to admit that what succubi give is pure goodness. As much as they insult succubi. succubi in intimacy is like this angelic, loving, motherly, caring, empathetic perfect creature. And thats what they want out of >tfw no gf, and why a prostitute wont do. Its weird how the biggest misogynists also idealize feminine qualities the most. succubi are pure empathetic altruism- but towards the wrong targets.

 No.191814

>>191811
why are you in every thread samefagging instead of writing part 2 of your bbc/mom fantasy? you're not fooling anybody lol

 No.191912

So, in the end are we all just a bunch of ugly autists?

 No.191913

>>191912
personality and looks are 2 opposite poles. and autism is a personality disorder

 No.191916

As different as Christianity, Feminism and Red Pill PUAs are, they all had a common message that sex is a prize that mean men trick succubi into letting them steal. Other than slut positivity, the Black Pill was the 1st to point out how much succubi enjoy sex, and that sex is a win for the succubi. And I think the modern zoomer way of having sex is more like that than some caveman hunting prey. Its some bored succubus on Tinder swiping through attractive faces like its take out delivery. Its for her pleasure and enjoyment. The men who think they are winning, are nothing but human dildos. They are judged just on their facial quality and nothing else. Who has the best body for female pleasure.

 No.191920

>>191913
But what about if your ugly AND autistic?

 No.191935

handsome wizards exist i am proof. just because someone looks good doesn't mean theyre a normie. i'm too out there and weird for most people so i've always been single.

 No.191996

>>191811
thats because its just meaningless edgy locker room dude talk, nobody actually hates succubi and mysognists dont exist, its just a slur feminists use to demonise men who dont pander to succubi

 No.191998

>>191996
easy to say hate doesnt exist if words of extreme hatred dont have meaning

 No.192330

In the end, better to be handsome than ugly, only lunatics would say otherwise.

Inc*ls are right about some things…

 No.192399

>>189276
Wizard and handsome right here. 29.
Made some succubi cry at high school.
Still despise them all
>you will regret not being more social
Let them be social with me if so they wish! But no, they do not deserve what they are not willing to give… succubi always want you to fall for their games, never the opposite.

>>191683
It is your fundamental weakness, which leads you to take cover from normies, what makes manifest the impotence and powerlessness of your position. As much as you fear them they own you.

>>191701
Dont' you dare to call such minutiae a black pill, what a shame.

>>191742
>>191774
Hey,hello! Back to reddit, please. This site be men only.

>>189292
It's simply a eugenetic tendency which avoids their genes to be passed… going out of control as a preservation method.

>The men who think they are winning, are nothing but human dildos. They are judged just on their facial quality and nothing else. Who has the best body for female pleasure


At last, some gets the point.

 No.192400

>>192399
piss off schizo

 No.192417

>>192400
after thee, normo.


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