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What are some jobs shut-ins can do from their basements? I feel bad for contributing nothing to my family's net worth.

Here's my list so far:
-content moderator
-furry porn artist


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Sell blood. It's not a "job" per se but you'll get a good chunk of money per month and it's super easy. That goes a long way to quieting peoples complaints about your lifestyle


video editing, graphics design, data entry, writing articles, online tutoring, translating.


>Compensation for blood giving is not the norm in civilized countries, with some of them, like Brazil or Australia, making illegal to receive money for donating blood.
You fucking yanks are living in a fantasy land.


i'm like 1 hour drive from the nearest plasma donation center. i calculated how much an uber would cost me and i'd end up losing money. only good if you have public transportation or it's close to you


I wish this was an option for me. I'm not fat or a drug user but I'm super hardstick. Went to the hospital twice a few years ago and both times it took multiple nurses and like 5+ tries to do the bloodtest/iv. They ended up doing it in my hand and it was bruised/sore for weeks.


-Night watchman
-Game developer
-Eco farmer


re-read the op

>selling blood

is this an purely american thing?


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Don't let one bad experience sour it for you. You'd be surprised how many nurses are incompetent. The people at the blood banks stick people dozens of times a day for years on end and get rather proficient at it, not to mention that if you become a regular they become familiar with your veins peculiarities.
When I first started going I was put on the DT-only list (I can't remember what it stands for but it was experienced people only,) and even then they occasionally fucked my shit up. Then they adjusted, wrote tips and tricks about my arms on their forms and sheets for the others, and got better. Almost never have a problem now no matter who does it.


Stocking shelves during night shifts


I just quit a job like that because my coworkers hated me and thought I was a creepy weirdo, and my managers hated me because I was slow and incompetent and a creepy weirdo. I'm hoping the next most recommended occupation for loners–that of night shift security guard– is really as easy going as you imageboard people claim it is, but as the saying goes, fool me twice…


>that of night shift security guard

It's hard to find comfy night shift security guard jobs.

Most security guard jobs have to do with being a receptionist and customer service.

The worst security guard jobs are hotel security, gate attendant, hospitals, rover patrols in dangerous areas, event security, armored truck security, warehouse security, apartment complexes, factory receptionists, etc.


i don't think a shut-in would be able to write properly, writing comes from personal experiences, in particular from human connections, which shut-ins simply don't have a lot of.


1. I disagree
2. He can write about being a shut in then


It would have been more accurate for them to say being profitable requires personal experiences derived from human connections.
There's no shortage of creative wizards who have no audience beyond the niche. There's no job in that. Aside from the little bit of neet bucks what handful of individuals might give.
A couple of dollars few times a year from my own experience.


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>It's hard to find comfy night shift security guard jobs.

Indeed, dunno what it's like in other countries but here, due to the increased violence in society, you always work in teams and keep constant radio contact with eachother. The sort of security guard that can be seen in various heist movies, sitting in front of a bunch of tv-screens stuffing their face with snacks and reading porn mags does not exist anymore.


I remember during covid times they used to paid $90 for 600ml of plasma and you can do it twice a week.


Currently work at 911 dispatch. It's basically video games but a job. Sucks when it's busy but really nice when it's slow


The older security guards that have been working in the industry for 10+ years jealously guard the good security jobs, the ones where you sit in the lunch room and watch movies all night. If you're just breaking into the industry, you're likely to be given the public facing garbage that nobody else wants to work.


>-Night watchman
Yes and no, I did that in an hotel and starting at 10pm, it's literally when the hotel is full, and soon you end up working alone with A LOTS of normal fags partying around you, it was very stressing. And anything can happen during those nights, ok it was mostly calm, but still, you get the drunk normals coming back late at night and they can be violent.


Of course it's highly specific to the job. My only friend used to work as night security for an ice rink for a number of years. The way he tells it, it was an absolute dead zone during his hours with maybe 2-5 encounters throughout the entire year. Seems pretty ideal since it's impossible to fully eliminate contact with other human beings.


Can you just video edit? all I find is guys who film too, meaning they have to socialize A LOT, like disgusting weddings filming and shit.


Those security guard jobs that let you watch anime all the time are meme.

If you are security guard expect to be security guard + Receptionist


Nah, factory night shifts are exactly that, you watch TV for 8 hours, eat some sandwiches, then you go home.

The problem is it gets excruciatingly boring after you do it for a few years.


There's a guy who posts here sometimes who works a nighttime security where he just has to walk around some port and take pictures of points of interest. He takes a bunch of photos at once beforehand and then sends them in while sitting in his car watching YouTube.

Most security positions exist just because insurance providers demand someone be on site at all times, so the employer itself doesn't really care and just lets the single necessary human element exist on the property at his own leisure.




zabujard isn't night time i watch him too lol i'm not the guy ur responding too thoughl.


I used to think being a programmer would be a good job for me, but you have to do the "daily stand up" bullshit and always have to communicate with your coworkers. If I could get a job where I just sit in my basement and I provide a finished product, then that'd be nice, but I don't think that's how it is IRL. Note: I've never been employed and receive welfare.


That's only if you work in a team with other people. You could still work on your own, provide some kind of finished product built in your own vision and just sell it to people online with no interaction required. Stuff like games, apps, a website that provides a service. You could also work freelance and get paid to work on someone else's thing but then you'd have to communicate with the client, not to mention act like a salesman when it comes to branding yourself and your services and negotiating your compensation.


Programming gets thrown around as this easy to do job for autistic wizards but I think it's far from truth.
You certainly need well above average intelligence, normalfag work ethic and ok level of communication skills and I doubt most people here have any of these qualities.


I don't have any of the social skills. I'm so pathetic that even freelancing and communicating with a client seems stressful. My default behavior is to hide. I did think about making a game, but the chances of it being successful are slim, it requires marketing, I wouldn't want to interact with fans/others in the industry, etc. I'm a lost cause. Should I just give up and stay on the NEETbuxx? Nothing is appealing to me though. Games don't do it anymore. Anime doesn't do it anymore. I do nothing.


I think it would have worked 15+ years ago, when it was a solid engineering job but not the only place to go for high pay. I graduated in the 2010s and at the corporate level it’s mostly the sort of people that would have gone into finance or law in the past. Really insufferable people with no actual interest in technology and ressentiment towards those that do. I got constructively dismissed after a few years for being autistic. I don’t think that would have happened in the 80s/90s.


i'm a lost cause too. i'm too terribly afraid of people and relationships to want to do anything.


>Should I just give up and stay on the NEETbuxx?

Correct. In the early days there were good "solo" programming jobs. Those days are over, now it is corporate hell. There are some exceptions but they are only for outlier, experienced, extremely highly skilled developers.

You have to be truly in the top ranks to be able to live off your own solo-developed work. People who make $200k+/year write on hackernews about how they try and fail then give up


>You have to be truly in the top ranks to be able to live off your own solo-developed work.

The problem is that most of the things that you can reasonably pull off as a solo-dev have already been done, so you have to find extremely niche markets or build something truly unique in order to be successful. And no matter how talented you are, it's always going to be about luck because if there's some rational, common sense path from A to B, someone has already figured it out and done it. You're basically looking for some subset of ideas that's doable by one person and also lucrative and most of the search space for that has been exhausted, you need really radical jumps to get into fresh territory.

Although, not all ideas have to be the next Wordle or Minecraft. In this youtube vid, guy claims to be making $3000 a month on this very basic website. Essentially just a mailing list that sends you a coding interview question every day and if you pay a little bit of money for a "pro" subscription, you can also get the answers and a short explanation.

I don't think any of us could replicate this since the key to its success was probably the guy's pre-existing youtube following that he could use to promote side-hustles like this. So without some kind of capital (money or fame), it's extremely unlikely to make it on your own.


>I don't think any of us could replicate this since the key to its success was probably the guy's pre-existing youtube following that he could use to promote side-hustles like this.
Yes again that's making use of social capital/skills. Even if you come up with a good idea and implement it there's a cold start problem without a way to advertise yourself. Anyone else can even see your idea and steal it


>I've never been employed and receive welfare.
Enjoy it while it lasts, my state is on my back for months now, trying to make me go to work again/take it away from me.


These freelancing websites require photo, full name and social skills to get the job. Currently I only see game cheat and malware as a viable way to get money codding.


Also, I'm considering hentai related redrawing and translating. These people get offers at Twitter, there are a few them and you can actually get a decent money doing jobs other refused, like shota/loli related.


In short, I think black hat related things are a good place to code wizards because they still need normal freelancing like webcrawlers, tools and so on, but is a niche and they favor privacy.


i am thinking of becoming a train driver


The interactions with other people thing isn't as much of a problem as getting the job itself.
You need to be an extremely dedicated person, solving mostly mundane and nerve-wrecking code related problems. If you can get through this part you could get through socializing since there are a tons of remote programming jobs that don't require much socialization.


> there are a tons of remote programming jobs that don't require much socialization.

Freelancing is the worst, it requires even more social skills than normal jobs. You're constantly needing to 'sell yourself', interact with new clients and maintain your reputation.


>remote programming jobs that don't require much socialization.

Depends on what you mean by "socialization". It's not like a sales job where you have to charm people, but there's definitely a need for lots of communication – what needs to be done, how it will be done, how will the work be split, how is it progressing, what problems are you facing, how and when is it going to be tested, deployed, documented etc. That might be trivial to you, but some people can't handle even that. There's definitely a need for soft skills where you can effectively communicate things, sometimes very complex technical things to a non-technical person like a client or manager that has to make decisions.


skilverware wrapper at some restaurant

you just wrap silverware in linen and napkins in the back

in fact it was my first job until i was laid off



you have to confront people

it's not a job for socially inept people as people say it is


these people with passive income channels are all liars

they make most of their money from youtube and by providing scam services(such as educational services that promise to help you with getting a passive income)


>but there's definitely a need for lots of communication – what needs to be done, how it will be done, how will the work be split, how is it progressing, what problems are you facing, how and when is it going to be tested, deployed, documented etc.

All of that sounds like technical talk, socializing is when you have constant breaks at the job and ur essentially forced to converse with ur coworkers about mundane stuff. Now THAT is actual hell, if you've never experienced.


I'm a security guard and there are tons of sites where you don't have to interact with anyone at all. If you don't mind working at night, you are punctual and can follow basic orders then you will do fine in this industry.

Security companies used to hire anyone with a pulse back when the economy was better so right now they're really desperate for employees. My company is even giving people a bonus if they stay for 3 months.

Here's what my typical shift looks like:

- 11:00pm: arrive at work and talk to the other guard, for about 40 seconds, to check if everything was fine on his shift.

-11:05pm to ~1:30am-2:00am: use my phone to watch YouTube, eat the food I brought from home, etc.

-1:30am-2:00am to 4:00am: I take a nap.

-4:00am to 7:00am: I wait for people to arrive (usually around 5:00am) and say good morning to them, then around 6:00am I go sit alone waiting for my shift to end (while using my phone).

If someone complains about me or they don't like I don't socialize then the company moves me to another site but that never has happened. I've worked sites with less contact with people and they were nice but that's the one I'm working now. I've never heard of anyone being fired, just moved around like priests in the catholic church so this is the closest thing to basic income yet.


how big is your… area? is it a city? i wonder if there is enoigh security jobs in small towns


how do you find a solo post in a security listing? all the security jobs here require you to be part of a crew


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I don't know what to do with my life. Never have. My dad wants me to enroll in college but I know I can't make it through 4 years of that bullshit. The only thing I really want in life is a comfy, secluded place where I can read, play piano, and watch TV all day. I've thought about getting on buxx, but I think that will be pretty hard for me. I've also thought about living in a van or trailer or something and working a wageslave job only on the weekends to pay for food and whatnot. If I did go to college, it would probably be for some learn2code bullshit because I like computers but I can only see myself doing a 2 year degree and my parents are not cool with that. I think I might just end it all honestly


If you just want a two year deal, look at the vocational programs at your community college and try ones that seem the least bad. They’ll all have turbonormies in them, but a lot of trades allow for people to work alone/ do field service if they are reliable.

It’s usually a thing you work up to, so make sure you can tolerate the work by taking the intro class if they offer one. Apprenticeships are also good deals, but they might require more commitment than you want.


You're too young to give up. The best thing you can do for yourself right now is at least become self sufficient, and school will help you do that. Fuck your parents, they don't know shit. College is a good option, you can do a two year degree and if you aren't suffering horribly you can easily transfer into the university of your choice with a 2 year degree. I wouldn't recommend coding cause that's the hot meme degree like business and finance was twenty years ago. You really need to just try things until you find something that at least entices you to learn more about it.


>school will help you do that
how detached from reality can you be?


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Did you even go to school?


Yes I got "muh STEM degree" more than 4 years ago and it did nothing for me except burden me with debt


Have any of you heard of people modding for NFT discord communities? They get paid 500-600$ a month which is a decent salary if ur not a 1st worlder.



You can't be a clinical/counseling psychologist or psychiatrist without extensive training that involves tons of face-to-face interaction. In addition you have to constantly record yourself on video interacting with people, then have those recordings thoroughly pored over and nitpicked by panels of people looking for mistakes in how you interacted with others. These are the last jobs on earth social recluses would ever reasonably consider.

Research psychologist jobs of various kinds might be different. But if you're a shut-in you'll need to have good degrees for that, which you either can't get as a shut-in or must have already gotten before becoming a shut-in.


I wish I could be a subsistence farmer. If there were still some land that was unowned I would just go find some and start farming but they stole that from us.


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operating a vending machine seems like a very wizardly job that NEETs haven't thought of
you don't even work hard. you just put more candy or soda in the machine, and wait and then collect the money


>you have to confront people
Who? Potential intruders? Yeah right.


And where are you going to put your vending machine? You need to negotiate and talk to the owner of each and every high-traffic storefront you would want to put your machine at. I've heard most of them are pretty amenable, but it still requires a minimum of social skills.



find a family member who has a business and ask them if you could put a vending machine in their shop or whatveer


It's a merchandising job, you work for a company that owns about 100 around town, and you just drive around in a van and restock them. The same people that own vending machines often own those frozen ice cream fridges you find at the gas station.


That said, merchandising is not really wizard friendly though. I did it.

>You get complaints indirectly, nobody will stop you and tell you you're doing something wrong, they just ring your boss

>You get set up constantly, all the time
>Cunts that own the stores treat you like a retarded peasant
>Your normalfaggot boss, who is inevitably a giganormie with a marketing or business management degree, holds meetings with you once a month and you get every accumulated complaint just unleashed at you in a stream of consciousness
>It's a foid industry so on the days you don't work the cunts just find ways to blame you for everything going wrong
>You have twice the allotted time to do your job, but because everything is tracked through faggot apps and site sign ins, it's impossible to bullshit timesheets and just relax in the van.

It has a bad reputation as an industry, even among normalfags. It has an extremely high turnover rate and they just get by with the same succubi they browbeat into submission.


the only job well suited for shut-ins is being rich and retiring young. Everything requires socializing and if it doesn't it is a scam or dominated by 3rd world professionals. Just waiting for my parents to die and for me to mismanage my inheritance till I am homeless.


most philosophers were shut ins anon, and they weren't just wagies, they changed the course of history


>I feel bad for contributing nothing to my family's net worth.
It's like you came from bill gate's family and we don't know that.
just whore yourself.


Programming is actually a very social job that requires you to either work on a team and have good social skills as a code monkey or attend meetings and more meetings if you start climbing the ladder.

The thing about the lonely programmer that worked on code by himself was always a meme, even in the 90's most nerds were coding with friends.


I've worked writing backend code fully remote for close to a year. It's really not that bad. Sometimes I have to attend calls but I don't need to have video on and only talk when I have something relevant to the topic. Also, I communicate via IM/email if it's necessary. For the most part I'm left alone to work on whatever project my supervisor has me doing.
>good social skills
From my experience, you mostly just need to know how to clearly explain things using polite language.


I've had like 10 different tech jobs. All of them were based around defining an initial spec and then being handed it off to work on. With occasional check-ins. Sometimes if I was 'the expert' I'd also define the spec. Which meant working by myself on a project I 100% defined and implemented.

The most social aspect of any of these roles was doing the initial meeting over Zoom. Some of the companies had 'stand ups' where you had to gather with other devs and talk about what you did. But this was uncommon. Keep in mind I only go for remote jobs in expert domains. So my experience may be different to the average worker.


Same thing happened to me, lasted about two days as a night stocker thinking it would be comfy and easy, the manager was in shock at how slow I was trying to clear off those pallets stacked 50 foot high with crap and yelled at me. After that I worked night security for 4 years, easy job and nobody bothered me, just sat there on my laptop most of the night. I think if you sign on with a security company instead of doing in-house security for a hotel or something, you're more likely to be set up somewhere quiet and boring. I worked at a golf course and a garbage truck garage.


These days a lot of office jobs are able to be done remotely. It's usually up to the employer to decide how many days you are allowed to work from home though. And even then, you'll still need to deal with colleagues via Teams and shit as well, with the (sometimes unspoken) expectation that you be available for unannounced calls throughout the workday. I think it's less about the specific jobs but finding a company that isn't terrible to work for.


Personally, I'm really racist and homophobic. While I've cured my autism and become really outgoing, there are very few jobs in my area that don't involve being pegged by a black dominatrix over something she imagined I said/did.
After quitting and leaving a nasty review, I've been working nightshifts at this grocery store stocking shelves. This place is full of degenerates and doddering oldfolk; it's perfect.
For the future, I'm organizing my morning routine using principles from Atomic Habits and a daily meditation habit to keep the porn addiction from eroding my sanity entirely. By the end of the year, I'll be a web developer.
You can get a job as a socially inept non-normie, but you're only going to end up stacking cans for $9.75 an hour if you don't learn how to set time aside for skillz.
>stacking beans
That requires social skills, and a natural inclination to empathy. Jewish physicalist psychology is also mostly useless where it isn't outright incorrect.
more like a Zionist Occupied Government, or ZOG State
you can be a good writer as a shut-in if you read, dream-journal, and meditate on your ajna chakra daily
Made in Abyss, Lovecraft, Trail of Blood
that sort of environment only exists for talented software engineers and instances like cloud computing
web development and other instances are about 50/50
however, if you can't learn social skills, I highly doubt you can learn any meaningful skill


that's business creation, anon
that's not a job
most of the people here can't read How to Win Friends and Influence people, and you expect them to follow through in creating lucrative businesses
>my default behavior is to hide
your default behavior is to masturbate
remote coding jobs only allow little socialization when you learn social skills and how to minimize communication (instead of crying like a little bitch)
freelancing is in fact retarded though
college is a religion started by the Frankford school, you can learn about it in Michael J Minnicino's New Dark Age
if you can't simply learn a skill, take a test, and gain the necessary cert, something's fishy
you can't learn to code from college, the skill you need to get a job like software development or web development is the ability to pick up a book and follow through
being forced to browse through a book on HTML will not prepare you for a real job, but they will pump you full of Zionist drivel


school does not teach you how to be what we consider self-sufficient
it teaches you to make money, pay fines, and take orders
self-sufficiency means being able to think and improve for yourself and the people you love; things like working out and practicing meditation regularly
I'm sorry if you're new to this
>climbing the social ladder
kek, reddit-spacing INFJ spotted>>195020


programmerbros missed out big time on other fields now that all program is done visually on a cell phone or even using voice commands
taking 10-15 yrs of all previous programming experience useless now there is a 20 yr old in cali sliding functions onto a flow chart for 500k


>all program is done visually on a cell phone or even using voice commands

There isn't enough detail in visual mockups to describe a program. Suppose there was an AI that could write programs from human-input. What that AI would need would be a strict set of instructions that described what it needed to get done. It would be like: "I need an API that can do XYZ, that can scale across… on these platforms, and so on." After you were done writing the instructions for the AI you know what you will have done? Programming, mother fucker.

You can't replace programmers. The level that AI is at currently can write code for basic functions when they're sufficiently defined. Like 'a function that takes a list of numbers and adds them together returning the result.' The code for that in Python is literally sum(list_of_numbers). Notice how the code can be shorter than the description? This is because computer code is succinct, precise, designed to operate well as a language for computing. When you try do that with English you end up with a very clunky result. That's why you need Programming, mother fucker.

Every time a person uses Excel to write down a macro. Every formula they input. Every cooking recipe they follow. Every map direction they use. Or sheet of instructions used to do something… Is really just: Programming, mother fucker. Even legal precedent is just code. Not very good code, mind you. Since it is inconsistent and deals with outcomes that are hard to predict. But it's all just code. Even this post you're reading is code. It's a program that said you should have studied STEM. LMAO!!


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Even tech bros are starting to catch on and see through feminist white knights


>bottom comment
I hate zealots, its unreal.
People like him deserve worst of this life.


You can always go back, no one keeps you here, nor welcomes you and your faggotry.


I became a cashier at a gas station that is within walking distance of my house.
It's terrible and yet far better than a lot of other work i've tried.
A small mercy is that the interactions with customers are very brief and some days are slow and quiet.


I think the cushiony tech sphere jobs in these "workday" videos are probably close to the ideal vision of society. At least, in the eyes of the hyper-normal weirdoes that run these companies. It's not just succubi that have these jobs, but they're far more likely to be self-unaware enough to post about it online. Spoiled animals on every level are a plague, and humanity is built on generations spoiling the next in an unbroken chain of shit. I guess I can't blame these quacks for fabricating a reality for themselves in these insular bubbles, as escapism is my primary form of cope (even if it is an anti-social escapism). I reconcile the difference being my forms of escapism don't actively attempt to force the physical world to fit my delusions. Their contemptuous lifestyle is so spoiled and extravagant that it demands an enormous infrastructure to sustain. All for the sole purpose of insulating themselves from reality, and then they have the gall to call it a job.

^An example of very high resource intensive escapism. You may experience anger.


programming isn't for losers anymore, you constantly have online meetings with other people and the more advanced programmer you are the more responsibilities and meetings with suits, it's stressful as fuck


That last commenter is such a faggot, these people always blame anyone for the fact that succubi are just too retarded to do the same things as autistic dudes such as proper coding.

The type of jobs that are basically not even "real" and shouldnt exist since they have no actual impact on anything.

>It's not just succubi that have these jobs, but they're far more likely to be self-unaware enough to post about it online.

Spot on, the succubus in the video you posted is a perfect example of this, she looks quite proud as well. I wonder how long these meaningless fake jobs can last in the future, there's gotta be an oversaturation at some point or it will be like Sam Hyde wrote in his book and an AI will instantly come up with new jobs and fill it with people randomly.


Why is it always fucking food? Evyerthing they post is food this and food that. There were like ten different fucking things she was eating and drinking in that video.


Need more money than my meager autismbux. After I finish the food in my fridge I'm gonna fast until I start making money to force myself to do it, with salt and stuff for electrolytes so I don't lose all energy after a few days. Probably won't take me more than a week or two. I'll be reading/studying/planning/thinking hard for 12+ hours a day. Might start my own business rather than being an employee. Don't know what I'll be doing yet but I'm studying several things that interest me (databases, webdev, calculus, physics, engineering, accounting)


Yep. Programming as a wizard is now the same balance of doing 500% of your workload while oversocialized people constantly slander you and try to push you out, same as any other job.


For people that don’t have real hobbies the only things they have outside of work are food, content consumption, socializing, and exercise, in increasing order of difficulty.



I think for a norman, socialising would come before content consumption since nowadays people just put on netflix in the background while they text and browse their social media feeds, only glancing at their soulless goyslop (sorry) shows occasionally when something dramatic happens.


A lot of those TikToks are basically just marketing adverts for the company. The token black characters and the fact that the entire cast looks like the same pretty people you see in a Coke Cola advert should tell you everything. That said, a few are probably organic, there's a lot of people out there that like to dab on the poors.

Art museums and galleries in major cities serve a similar purpose. Elites dump their daughters there after graduating college to have an artsy "feeling useful' job. They get the same sort of catering and pampered treatment, and an extremely comfortable wage. In return, daddy donates a substantial sum to the museum or pays for a pricey painting.

That whole side of the humanities with art history degrees and the like is exactly that. People associate these things with culture and sophistication when in actuality it's just the rich paying for adult daycare for their kids so they don't get too listless and NEETlike.


When you say dispatch you mean strictly working on the radio with units? I ask because some places combine the role of actual dispatching and call taking.


You can in theory do work, but in practice the society is set up to destroy people. The most lucrative business, the thing people aspire to do with their lives, is to destroy other people in various ways, and sell it as a "service". That's been the problem. Naive people think this involved producing things, but the productive economy creates more than those who rule society need, and those who rule made the call that they do not want so many people existing. They do not want to exploit you for crass profit. They want to kill you off, and have shouted it from the rooftops for about a century and made it the global state religion since 1970. The productive economy only needs to function at a sufficient level to remain competitive with any actor who would seek to change the arrangement. It would not be possible to stop people by brute force from trading with each other, or to stop farmers or producers from making stuff if they have no other way to stay alive. This all ends though because the monopolists' position is so ridiculously advantageous that they can create free money for themselves and force people into deeper debt, so they can take all of their shit and enslave the lot of us. It wouldn't be possible to just decree that 90% of the world must starve. There has to be some buy-in, some way to pit people against each other over a bullshit struggle which never actually concerned them. There have been numerous ways to do this throughout time, the most common being the cult of war which is never fought for its stated purpose (and when you talk to people in the ruling groups and those associated with them, they see these wars as a game and only play-act with crocodile tears when they send us to die and be tortured and experimented on by some Mengele fucker).


The point being is that the current employment situation is about sorting the population and deciding who will be destroyed. That day came in 2020 and now there is no going back. Anyone they could sucker in to the self-destructive death spiral, they're going to keep there forever. A hard rule they adhere to is that once you're out, they never, ever can let you back in. They make it a point that if you're struggling, they'll reject you from jobs no matter how much they want workers - because the overriding imperative is depopulation and the sorting of the population, rather than anything productive or profitable in a capitalist sense. Monopoly does not really experience a profit motive - their preferred course of action is to become the banker, extract rent, and concoct schemes that allow them to keep what they hold against those who don't have anything.


> Monopoly does not really experience a profit motive
Not only is this obviously false, you even go on to immediately describe ways that monopoly position can become profit


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their online extremism department is probably the easiest six figure job on earth


How do you get into blackhat stuff? I remember years ago I tried doing e-whoring stuff where I pretended to be a succubus. Actually managed to get some guy to give me $20 but couldn't transfer it because I still needed to verify the paypal account.


Why does the internet make it sound so easy to get a (minimum-wage) job? Is it just that everyone on the internet has survivorship bias? I guess never being able to get a job has as much stigma as being a virgin so no one ever admits it.


Losers aren't really welcome on the internet anymore, you just don't get the point of view of people who struggle with basic shit anymore.


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I'm currently stuck working 10-hour days at a shitty, dead-end warehouse job, and I desperately want out. Does anyone here have experience in any of the following jobs:
>graphic design
>3D modeling
>video editing
>writing (articles, books, transcripts, etc.)
I would really like to know how well these jobs fit for a wizard/shut-in. What are some of the perks and benefits? Drawbacks? What is the best (and possibly quickest) route to learning and/or getting hired for these jobs? Any special equipment needed? What can I expect (in terms of workload, job stability, social obligations, really anything worth noting) if I do get hired doing one of these jobs?

Any insights or advice you wizzies have would be greatly appreciated.


graphic design has been automated by ai, 3d modeling only porn is profitable or being the nephew of an executive at pixar and pretty soon this will also get automated, video editing you'll have to run a freelancing operation or sole proprietorship and have to have connections and/or do volunteer work to build a portfolio to get actual clients and you can't be a shut-in as you'll have to meet your clients to negotiate your services and do filming, writing has never been profitable for >99.99% of people and will continue to get worse with ChatGPT


>x has been automated by AI
Just like how art was automated by photographs, right? AI has not taken the place of a single job so far and it will not.



Just like cars replaced horses, it will replace artists in time and you have to be a retard to believe otherwise. In couple of years it has evolved immensely. Could you imagine something like stable diffusion couple of years ago?
It is clunky and can't create complex things yet, but that will change.


I've worked in the field. They predicted it would take over about 50 years ago. Things are really only just starting to get wild, so don't plan on anything taking over as much as just being part of the new normal, especially as the global economy continues to go through whatever kind of reset it turns out to be.


Obviously everything will become automated sooner or later. In fact, I'm genuinely surprised that more jobs in the warehouse I work in aren't automated, since most warehouses are making a steady push towards more automation and less employees. Also, I'm already fully aware that everything is fairly shitty and that, following the current trajectory of things based on past events and the direction of history, it will continue to get worse. I just want something that will allow me to support myself well enough for the next few years without making myself completely miserable.

What field did you work in? What was it like? If you have any insight that might help me, I would be grateful.


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>In couple of years it has evolved immensely
uh, not really, things like perceptron were invented like almost a century ago, I've finished education almost 20 years ago end even then it was quite advanced, a lot of ideas just didn't make it through because lack of popularity in mainstream media

the only things that accelerated a little bit are audio and visual pattern recognition and that's only because of the financing from the big companies for potential uses in their services


dude twenty years is a long time in AI research, Deep Blue is an Expert System, and we are now in the age of huge neural networks


It's wild to think how ahead of the curb user on this site are if the future for everyone just sitting on your ass and consooming.


I'm more inclined to believe makework jobs will last forever personally


makework jobs are only for the daughters of bankers, politicians and other influential people, they're not for the average joe


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Most men with the exception of upper class men have to work those high stress low pay jobs 50+ years straight to stay alive.

She can always quit and go back to her cozy pretend-work place that will hire her due to being a minority and a succubus.

The average man has no such option, he's forced to live in hell.


>In the caption, Laysia noted that she was “rethinking” her life decisions, adding that work was long and she “hates people.”

this planet is literal torture if you're not born rich so you can avoid doing this all your life

just substitute mcdonalds for any average job in a 2nd or 3rd world country and that's what people do until their retirement or death


Yes, cry on my french fries, make em saltier


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>he's forced to live in hell


>She can always quit and go back to her cozy pretend-work place that will hire her due to being a minority and a succubus.
Is this something that actually happens in real life or an urban legend.


Def happens, DEI is popular at megacorps


Earth is loosh farm or most likely even worse that.
Absolutely wouldn't be surprised if normal death is not escape from this hell.
There truly no god.


there is literally no job suited for a wizard. all jobs are terrible, boring, demeaning slavery.
the jobs where you do nothing like le night watchmen are incredibly rare.
literally you just have to normie it out if you want to make a living. I can act normal sometimes even though i walk around looking like my parents just died every day.


As a programmer (not my actual job title, but that's close enough) I get to hide in my office or make excuses about having to go down to the data center to fix something most of the time, and they also let me work from home a bunch or keep strange hours because we collaborate with students or people from around the world and making myself available whenver they need me is a good excuse for not having to keep normal office hours.

It's not perfect, but it's a pretty good gig. I am at this very moment sitting in an empty convenience store shitposting between tasks because I said I needed to go back to my mom's place for her birthday. I'm also drinking.


Do you have a degree?


i have yet to find an online job that doesnt require me first handing over all my personal information to a job agency that often has horrible horrible reviews and it isnt even clear they arent a scam


Yup. I never bothered with more than a BS, but it's from a top notch school in the field and I wound up working side by side with people with the whole alphabet after their names anyway.

Probably should have picked up a PhD along the way, but I'm lazy :D


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I got mine back when it didn't cost ridiculous just to learn that there are 53 genders and niggers invented everything. It's a little more of a stretch to recommend fancy degrees unless you want to work in academia or a specific kind of job that requires a fancy degree (btw, if you didn't know, you get paid to get a graduate degree, unlike with an undergraduate degree where you have to pay out the nose for it, so factor that in if you want to go for fancy degrees.)

Certifications and experience probably are the right way to go for a lot of people. I wound up in research rather than just generic webdev or IT stuff. A degree isn't strictly necessary to get in to that, but you'd have to know how to angle your way in.


even normies can do a 4 year. It's fucking easymodo getting a bachelors if you just put in the minimum and keep pushing ahead


I live in Europe so the degree itself costs almost nothing, but you still have to pay living expenses. Most programmer jobs here require a degree. Those who do work without a degree are paid much less and you need to be good at selling yourself/networking to even get in.
Why even. They are more mentally stable, have a social support network etc. which among other things lets them handle mandatory group work and presentations much better.


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you listed everything AI will replace easily


Lol AI ain't replacing programming


WebDev shit seems ripe for AI tbh


Ai webdev isn't even being pushed as the thing of the future.

This reminds me of the people saying trucking was going to be taken over by ai/autopilot 4 or 5 years ago. Nevermind that autopilot has been a thing for decades in the airline industry and yet pilots are still in demand.


programmers write so much of stupid shitcode i have to deal with that i hope with all my heart that one day ais learn to write good code and people will deal with bad hand-written code only as a hobby so i won't get pissed every time shit these idiots "designed" breaks everything


>programmers write so much of stupid shitcode
It is an open secret that nobody wants to admit to. Anyone with a pinch of self awareness will own up to it.

Coding used to be much more flame wars because autist neckbeards have less filter. They will call it as they see it. As the field got filled with so many normie rat race career chasers at the same time the corporate fakeness took over. Everyone acts like their own poo doesn't smell. They polish their own turds to climb the ladder that's all that matter. It's infuriating.


Electrical engineers should be programmers and actually designers of electronics at once, "BSCS" should be abolished, that's the root of the problem, coding without making the microcontroller is a meme for normies who wish to abstract away the real knowledge.


ideally. really no one gives a fuck and the more degrees we have the more money they can milk. amount of programming courses skyrocketed and they all are moneymilking.


BSCS used to be fewer and more prestigious from known schools. Outside of that the random universities with CS programs were barely staying afloat. When I was in high school, universities we're asking me to apply to their program. Me a random nobody average student. They were desperate for enrollment. Fast forward to the 2010s. Those same schools are at full capacity. People are fighting for spots. CS has been watered down but it still holds to the prestige of the old days like you went to Stanford or some ivy league.

Nobody does CS and goes deep into academic research doing actual science of computing. It should have been obvious to everyone when boot camps came around and started producing the same results, A bunch of coders to run through the corporate grind.


As CS guy who wound up working a lot more on the theory side of things than I ever imagined, I was shocked even as an undergrad at how terrible most of my cohort was at programming, let alone understanding EE. That was a big lesson: computer "science" is not programming, and certainly not engineering, but it should be.

But that's okay. My EE background just made me extra versatile being able to understand everything from the abstract math on down to showing up to the machine room with a soldering iron and a drill.


>I was shocked even as an undergrad at how terrible most of my cohort was at programming
Terrible as in they can't think logically step-by-step or are unaware of common data structures to solve a problem, or terrible as in you're mad they don't strictly abide by your unnecessary, convoluted, non-empirically-backed object-oriented and monadic programming cargo cults?


The former. I found them to be particularly lacking in the ability to diagnose and debug, but most of them came out of taking some programming or IT or math classes rather than having had a background in the long term planning, execution, and maintenance of a project.

I've never been a fan of the latter. When my high school finally implemented some introductory programming courses they were like "this is a linked list" and "this is a tree" and all that, and I'm like "who the fuck cares? if you know what a pointer is you can do whatever you want." If they had framed it in terms of big-O or other theoretically useful bounding definitions then that might have been more interesting, but I suppose that might be a lot to ask of high schoolers. Looked good on the ol' college application, at least.


There are two kinds of jobs: abstract jobs and concrete jobs

Abstract jobs are "fake" jobs, as they are commonly called. But whereas most criticism of these jobs approach from a 'marxist' perspective, suggesting the market generates these jobs for no reason other than to keep people working, I'd say these jobs serve a purpose as a sort of marker between the in-group and the out-group, the in-group consisting of those who perpetuate the virtues, dogmas, and belief systems of the established order, whereas the out-group are those who do not. The in-group will thus consist of extroverts, POCs, succubi, and an assortment of subcultures or beliefs that congeal to create the status quo. The out-group will consist of those who pose a threat to the status quo or might undermine the belief system on which the current status quo is established, this group consists mostly of defeated males. For example, you will never give an HR job or a marketing job to an awkward white male for the simple reason that he is outside the in-group, he is not "one of them"; these jobs are essentially rewards for upholding the moorings of the establishment. Defeated males' only hope are concrete jobs where the output, not the individual, is important. These jobs could be engineering, programming, construction, mining etc. In these concrete jobs, the defeated male earns his keep not because of who he is, but despite who he is; he is tolerated because he is a necessity. The symmetry between the salary and the work load is symmetrical in concrete jobs, whereas in abstract jobs it's asymmetrical.


Make handcrafted jewelry or bullshit spirituality supplies and sell on etsy. Dumb succubi will throw their money at you

Make orgone blasters
Carve "runes"
Imbue crystals with positive energy
Make magical candles

Another thing I've done is buy figurines on amiami and resell on ebay for 2-4x as much. All you need is good taste and know which animes are popular or will become more popular with age


As if coders aren't grossly over paid for their memescripts (inb4 angry nerds)


Coders are actually driving so much of the gains of efficiency in the last ten to twenty years. I watch co-workers literally type the same information into 3 different software instead of making a custom script to do it for them. This isn't hard shit to automate either, it's just python and SQL.

I know that we could at least save 4 paid hours a week with a piece of software an undergraduate could spend 3 weeks writing. The boomers I've worked with will just go "it works" and continue doing it the hard way, year after year.


step 1 to making money
gotta register my business and it involves making a phone call
been at this step for a few months

i already know how to do the actual business part reselling. but fuck my ass i cant bring myself to call the number to register

so yes i will just say ANY JOB where i dont have to talk to people, that has to be a good job. i am too averse to socializing or interacting

and taxes. jesus christ just drain the spirot from my body. what an insanely boring and annoying requirement of running a business. all desire to earn money and make a living for myself is just stomped on by the annoyance of this

any job where you dont have to do bullshit paperwork and mindless form preparation also sounds good. that is the most soulless robotic slave work i can think of


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There is none unless you do anything computer related, which is pure determinism and dedication (If you really want it that badly lol) The best thing would be to get a part time or full time and save up for your future un-employment ideas. If you are a low iq npc get a +4 year degree up to a phd kek. Associate degrees at least opens up more human society doors to better jobs expanding your portfolio.


That's the problem with looking at a job as some sort of merit. Those who rule do not believe this, and always have sinecures lined up. The most prestigious jobs are those that are either worthless or actively harmful in a productive sense. To those who are winning, the entire purpose of the productive economy is to feed them. Those in the know do not think for a moment about their utility to anything other than the cause of keeping themselves on top, and see any work that isn't the hunt or the war against the losers as demeaning and beneath them. They really like the idea of slaves that can never rebel and will suffer maximally.

The trick is that any genuinely productive line of work is filled with assholes, just to make sure there is no escape whatsoever. They don't like the idea of workers having access to anything that would harm the ruling order, and so industry is deliberately retarded. If workers can be shut down with a push of a button, and if the work is done by a class marked as defective, where there is an expectation that workers exist to be prey animals, they have interrupted potential slave rebellions, strikes, or anything that would harm their bottom line.

All of this, by the way, is a non-issue for those with the property to live like nobility, independent of this rigamarole. It's why there's a push to take away anything that would allow anyone independence from managerial rule.

A decent world would simply not allow propagandists and trained liars to insinuate themselves the way they did. It would have torn down the propaganda posters which are intended to conduct a psychological siege. It would not have allowed the institutions to invade private life the way that it was done. To do that, though, requires going against all hitherto existing religion and society, and building something new. That is what they dread most of all - the idea that their gravy train will end, because most of the people have no reason whatsoever to accept it, and will out of necessity tear to shreds the people in the "in-group" you describe, whose primary function is to suppress those who are out.

If you're in the lowest class, you're in a position where "working life" entails killing each other over shitty Wal-Mart jobs, and you're told it's a honor to take the humiliations every day. This is a death cult and it's a Satanic country. And yes, the Marxists always pull punches when it comes time to criticize the institutions - they're never going to sacrifice their power base, which is what they have as leverage in the political struggle. The rest of us just get fucked, and we have not one friend. We only have each other, and nothing to do except mope and wish for a world where we didn't have to do this. Some day…

Anyway, you can only do so much with a shrinking wage fund and a concerted effort towards depopulation. There is only so much that can be offered to fill a niche, especially when the overriding ethos demands liquidation of undesirables. That's what the neoliberal economy is intended to do - prepare people for depopulation and slavery. You can't get anywhere within that system and you're not intended to live. The idea that you can have a decent life is reserved for a group selected to live in the great game, the great struggle for life which consumes all. That's all they believe in, and the higher you get in the institutions, the more fanatical their belief in eugenics.

You can try to find something in this cursed world, but don't expect much, and don't expect them to reward productivity or utility. They don't care about what you contribute at all. They care about your subservience and making everyone like them. Ultimately this is going to turn to squatters waging a war, because we will refuse to go on the cattle train the way their scenario is planned. They're close to maxing out what they can do with that, before resorting to death squads - and if it becomes too difficult for death squads to operate, if people start shooting back, they'll have to destroy the world to get their imagined dream. If we have nothing to lose, why would we ever submit to their shit? Their hope is that they have their special gated world, segregated from the rabble, and they'll convince the rabble to kill each other by lying to them and inducing them through unlimited torture and humiliation. That's what school is, preparation for the death cult and maximal eugenics. There will need to be riots and a willingness to torch down these institutions altogether, and this is being engineered so people will be cajoled into the new institutions made for them - which we must reject too. The only way out is continuous refusal until the bitter end, and the only reward is whatever we will find away from them, away from their stupid thought-forms and ideas. As far as I care, humanity is permanently and forever divided, and all they will ever have to offer is more threats and lies. Living for hatred of this beast is the only thing that allows me to have something of my own, and if I didn't have that, I would have nothing and I would be much worse off. They do not want compliance. They want suffering and torture and the thrill of doing it. That is what they are, and that is what their parties and orgies are for. That is what they sacrificed us and so many people for, and when they run out of us, they cannibalize their own. They know nothing else.


Boomers will all be retired (or dead) in a decade or so. It's not 1990 anymore. Boomer this boomer that is a dead narrative befitting of a "boomer" itself. Everybody knows how to do basic code now. Tech companies have dropped tens of thousands of employees and are better off for it.

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