I've been using english speaking internet sites since 11 years already, im 29. My main language is spanish, and to navigate english based internet was certainly an advantage. The problem is that i've became disappointed and tired with the english speaking crowd, its really difficult to find communities that are not conditioned by anglo culture, and all the things that encompasses (consumerism, ruthless competitiveness, hollywood-style pretentions, politics, virgin hate, etc).
I want to explore new horizonts. I want to learn a language that lets me find more wizard communities or navigating sites that are more aligned with the wizard philosophy. From what i know at the moment, finland can be sort of there.
If you are a non-american wizard, do you think your country has internet communities that have better discourse than english ones, or even more wizardlike sites? And if not, which countries do you think are the closest?
Normalfags gonna normalfag, language doesn’t matter
But some cultures must have it a little better
Argentina here. Every spanish speaking country is out of question.
hispachan was cancer but english speaking communities aren't any better.
Niche boards usually, some you find it yourself, some others find you
Thats exactly what i mean.>>194395
Im talking more about languages and cultures, aside from english
I think Japan is the only way, for one reason they are the birthplace of IBs and hikikomoris.
Well, i thought about japan and i dont know if its necessarily that way, i mean yeah, hiki and otaku are born over there, but they are looked down and shamed till basically suicide by the majority of their society.
mmm idk anon, we are becoming fewer and fewer
y eso te cala maistro
I read japanese blogs, all of them related to retro games. Sadly, most of them are already dead. Social media also killed japanese blogs, sadly. I think it's time for me to focus on hobbies that I can enjoy without talking to people about it.
Are you japanese or did you learn japanese? Is this correct >>194398
yeah one would think that japanese internet would be better in that sense but you still get a lot of assholes who get a kick out of shitting on neets and shut-ins online, it also doesn't help that a lot of japanese people now mainly post on twitter and they pick up american poltiical discourse at an alarming rate so even if you follow a bunch of japanese account you still get english sphere drama.
I feel like you can't really escape normals online no matter the language, everonye pretty much lives on the internet now not just withdrawn nerd types.
At least it should be a country where neeting and reduce working is seen as a philosophy. Sort of like cynicism. I heard that china is having a wave of "laying flat" youth where they drop out of society for their distrust in the system, yet again china is a dystopia
Bumping my dying thread
normalfags are fucking poison, man. I recently talked to some normalfags on 4chan, and they kept telling me that if you don't get normie approval you should basically kill yourself. I know they were probably trolling but every time I have shown my power level IRL normalfags looked at me like I was subhuman. They have that virtue signalling, brain dead shit culture that makes them want to exterminate you if you're "weird", even though it's us weird people that have contributed the most to humanity and most of us are peaceful.
Learn Japanese, I don't know about wizard communities but it still has far more communities that a wizard would like than any other language.>do you think your country has internet communities that have better discourse than english ones
Fuck no, 99% of Turks on the internet are teen retards who spout reddit memes or literal children, the remaining 1% are 30something year olds who beat and rape their mother and spend their day fucking around on the net all the time. I'm literally the only semi-sane Turk on the net.
I will be learning german and finnish. Nice places.
>>194387>If you are a non-american wizard, do you think your country has internet communities that have better discourse than english ones, or even more wizardlike sites?
none, maybe some niche board but there's no popular one, and that's why i like western internet more, because there's couple of website where i can be accepted as mentally ill loser.
browsing western internet is best cope i've ever had, there's almost nothing that remind me of real life stuffs here(i'm from japan by the way)
How different is Eastern internet to its Western counterpart?
Isnt 2chan closer to wizchan than 4chan?
I really enjoyed the days in my wiz youth when I could watch anime and actually enjoy it. I really loved anime like Spice and Wolf that had beautiful scenery. Good anime is somehow so immersive. It takes you away from your horrible life. Then there is the anime that somehow has amazing classical soundtracks. That's another form of escapism you can enjoy long after the series is over.
Now as an adult I can't watch anime because all of the subject matter is aimed at the problems that young people have. It's not really a genre for adults. I guess. Oh well, there's plenty of good books and other content out there.
Same. There are some manga that i can read but still, i wish there were more hiki themed manga
Check out Saitaihen no Otoko, Choudouryoku Mouko Daishuurai and Saltiness. I'm looking for manga with protags that are genuine life fuck-ups and not just sad teenagers and these three, while radically different in tone and themes, fit the bill just a bit.
Don't tell this site about cool internet places. You're just going to ruin them
This. I've seen it happen before.
reminds me of this failed normalfag hapa
why do you think there's such large amount of failed normies growing these days? was it always like that? maybe it's just the result of globalization? maybe it's the result of "progress"?
Reminds me of Conan the Barbarian
Very good observations.
This is just psychoanalysis tripe. Just say things that sound nice and smart. As long as the conclusions are things that aligns with people beliefs, everybody will accept it. Nobody can refute you because all the statements you make are things that can't be proved or disproved. Typical social """science""".
Oversimplification and typical "evil people = losers" just world tier bullshit. Most sadists aren't failed normals or people who suffered in any way, it's the opposite. It's usually the pretty boy who was born into a rich family and got worshipped all his life that ends up with zero empathy and thinking he can get away with everything.
I "like" how the guy who wrote that wall of text basically implies that only failed normals are sadists while the majority of normals are decent and good fellows. In most cases it's not outsiders or outcasts who are sadistic but the normal people, the majority. Because knowing that they have the backing and approval of the group they can do any awful thing against people who are considered as enemies or harmful to society.
Concentration camps and gulags weren't run by bitter failed normals but by completely functional and "healthy" normalfags. This text is another attempt at whiteknighting for society and culture and the majority and trying to pin the blame on a group of outcasts and outsiders.>>198975
There have always been failed normals and wizards but you never heard or read about that type previously. With the internet new worlds and new experiences entered into mainstream culture. Progress and globalization have nothing to do with this, if anything the current liberal society made it easier for people to norm it up.
You’re reading that piece as an attack on you, or some loser minority. He’s describing a type of person in modernity that is growing, more and more on the internet. Neurotic, struggling to enjoy life mindlessly, making their life a conscious ego language construction that is threatened and leads to anger.
*smokes some zaza*
No, I didn't feel offended by it personally but still I disagree with the message. That "failed normals" are monsters while "normals" are completely good guys. It's the other way around if we want to generalize. Failed normals are mostly confused if you ask me as they feel how hypocrite the normal life is yet they can't come up with a better alternative to it (they haven't reached the stage of wizardly individualist awakening yet). Failed normals are still seekers who will end up as either normals or wizards eventually.
Normals on the other hand are just mindless beasts who center around anyone they feel is different and gang upon him in the name of protecting the community from weirdos. They have no excuses and they are the ones responsible for most horrible stuff happening.
why don't just respond to irony with irony? what makes you want to argue with ironical copypaste wall of text?
>>198980>It's usually the pretty boy who was born into a rich family and got worshipped all his life that ends up with zero empathy and thinking he can get away with everything.
oh god I actually regret reading it. boy actually books and simple documentary shows draw a different picture. mad murderers and other bullshit are people who were inherently so and then got into some condition that made their cruelty to bloom. but you somehow take your experience from watching anime and say it's real life. no it's not.>weren't run by bitter failed normals but by completely functional and "healthy" normalfags
they were run by soldiers who don't give a shit and just carry out orders and by the traitors. as a rule cold-hearted and cruel ones were chosen so that they killed unnecessary bodies without mercy. that guys were basically criminals and they were either forced to become or were inherently so. the first are victims, the second were not normal, they had problems with head from the very beginning.
There's two "2chan"'s right now, futaba and 5chan, the latter is popular as fuck and has a trillion boards, on average it's extremely normalfag but there are a few boards that are relatively close to wizchan. The former has a normal amount of boards, half of them are dead as fuck and get maybe 1 post every half year, the other half have a few dozen posts a year. Not very wizchan-like but moderately less normalfag than 5chan on average. I think only bald old men post there.
If anybody is searching for a Japanese channel that's similar/close to wizchan then they are better off looking for random obscure ones I think.
5chan redirects to youtube why?
to keep out the gaijin. Try a VPN.
How come? Try this link, and what the other guy said. A decent chunk of Jap proxies are banned but not all, so you can post if you fiddle around a bit, shitposting in broken Japanese will just get you called a Korean and b&, but I think there was a board or two where people only speak English, and gaijin were allowed in too.
swedish VPN already but I understood your point, not gonna bother finding a working Japanese proxy
Check out CHAOS;HEAD, it's a fun VN.
And how are serial killer outcasts worse people than the normals I portrayed (concentration camp guards, soldiers, etc.)? The only difference between Hitler and Ted Bundy for example is that the first had the approval of normals and mainstream society.
And if you actually bothered to read about the issue you'd know that most of them didn't have any traumatizing event happen to them at all. This thing that "bullies or evil people are just losers" is a cope by society to believe that only the losers can be evil.
>they were run by soldiers who don't give a shit and just carry out orders and by the traitors. as a rule cold-hearted and cruel ones were chosen so that they killed unnecessary bodies without mercy. that guys were basically criminals and they were either forced to become or were inherently so. the first are victims, the second were not normal, they had problems with head from the very beginning.
The "just obeying orders" excuse doesn't fly at that level simply. They obeyed their orders because they didn't see anything wrong with them. And no, they obviously weren't criminals or other anti-social people if they were in the military. They were right in the head, they knew perfectly well what they were doing and they were people who lived ordinary lives outside of war. They had jobs, families, vast social circles, etc.
Can't accept the truth that your beloved normals aren't different from weirdo social outcast serial killers at all? Being socially accepted or not has nothing to do with empathy or "being fucked up". If anything, successful normals are more likely to be cruel because they can get away with it and because they were never treated like shit so they don't know what it's like to be on the receiving end of things.
He had terrible childhood.>because they didn't see anything wrong
god you're so delusional, you have no idea what soldiers are like, while I've seen them in action.
serial murderers all had problems with head and all had some significant life problems (very often in childhood) that made that problems to turn them in monsters.
please stop being delusional
just so you know cold-blooded authority-level butchers were grown among the same people or had some severe problems which made them cold-blooded butchers. but they are often more smart than just going and killing anyone they don't like. they always have some defense from above, so that they don't get in prison. more high level ones conceal their deeds altogether through proxies and other bullshit. high level ones really can feign normies, so I agree on this point
so they did think they were doing evil shit and did it anyway? sounds even worse to me. but whats more likely is that the average persons sense of morality is 100% dictated by what other people around them do and say.
Do you really think people do evil because they’re losers? Mongols were not losers Hulagu Khan wasn’t a loser and the soldiers under their command and they mercilessly killed millions of people with no remorse.
Khan was not evil
How is that an excuse for anything? I think many people on this site had experienced that in some form yet I wouldn't say most people here are sociopaths, to the contrary, people here have way too much empathy just like outcasts usually have.
Hitler wasn't sick in the head, he knew perfectly well what he was doing, it's not like he was a schizo who couldn't tell apart what was real and what wasn't.>>199030
They don't "feign" anything, they are normals or rather ultra normals. Hitler was a normal, he had friends, he had a gf, etc etc. Anyone who manages to rise high in the social hierarchy can only be a normal. Or do you think normals would tolerate some autist wiz character telling them what to do?>>199036
My point exactly. I don't know why some people can't accept that normal society is screwed up as it is. Normals are capable of much more destruction and cruelty than any failed normals or bitters losers can do.>>199075
The "average person" isn't a good guy, this is just a lie of mainstream culture to make the people feel good about themselves and life. When you look at the big moralists, pacifists or humanists they were mostly all people who lived on the periphery of society either because they realized how hypocrite society was and left it behind (like the Buddha) or because they were born and lived among the lower classes/outcasts by default (like Jesus for example). Either outcasts or outsiders all of them. The default state of mainstream society is evil, evil is the majority and basic state of humans. Good, kind people have always been a rarity and a minority.
>>199091>Hitler wasn't sick in the head
sure dude, now fuck off
Wiz is mad because nonwhite immigrants really do enrich his community :9
i can't communicate with delusional retards
is not bait just told the guy to fuck off because his post made me physically sick
could you stop trying to insult and evict the remaining userbase of this site with polshit on the front page?
cue the ancient /v/ responses where anonymous calmly explains that polshit isn't hated because of the content but because of their insufferable presentation format not far removed from internet trannies. Give it a fucking rest
polshit must be isolated in separate place
Who are you fucking talking to?
Op here back to the topic.
I find more solace in books lately. Well, always have. But online communities start getting fucking boring after a while. It's a whole load of nada, once you really set out to find what is it that keeps me coming to these sites.
I need to get an e-reader, problem is everything is too fucking expensive in this shithole. I will have to buy aliexpress.
I dont have any socialmedia. This imageboard is the only place i visit, its almost a savepoint for my life, hell this is like the pause menu, or the guild in an rpg. Is one of the only places where you can find similar thoughts, and it is here, hope it always stays here. Thats why you and everyone here comes back.
it's all dirt cheap on ebay. I got mine for $50 and it's an older model. Get Kobo and change the operating system software if you know how. Everything you read gets transmitted to a fucking glowie network unfortunately otherwise
Any wizard-like community I have found in many languages always become a hate succubus place that spend 99% of the time talking about succubus. It's really weird and fucked up.
Im not american, im argentinian
I only visit the art board of Hispachan, that is the least autistic place there where I can still find people who cares and shares my hobbie.
Like /ic/ before the fucking AI art shit flood all the threads.
Not the same anon but I watched Chaos:Head anime when I was like 17 years old and was kinda shitty.
In the same line of recommendations, Welcome to the NHK was a hard to watch experience not because is bad but how much I feel identified with the main protagonist.
I've never watched the anime so I can't speak for it, but back when I played the VN it was very enjoyable, I'd recommend people to at least try it once if they want media with an autistic hiki MC.
>>198975>failed normies growing these days? was it always like that?
Psychosocial conditioning is ignored to be such. >muh losing opportunities to be happie and stuff>giving importance to being seen as a loser>many other degeneracies
People still fears our ways, our solitude.
Im argentinian. I doubt about latinamerican and african wizard communities, as these places are far too technologically illiterate, if a imageboard is set up, then it will become crab infested and normaggot infested, basically the mediocre popuplation.
But contrary to what you say, i can definetely see the posibility of european wizard communities, even in places like spain and portugal. Romance countries are usually seen as normie central in the media, but they are first world countries, and first world countries develope vast ammount of under and outcast subcultures. And of course the rest of europe is well known for being reclusive and autistic.
Search for xenforo forums.