No.56338
>>56337thats bullshit
why u use fuckin use manjaro nigger
thats a meme distro omg
No.56339
>>56338you're running i3, mozilla firefox, and kornshell, at 1366x768 on a lenovo chinkpad
who is the real meme here
No.56341
>>56337boypill me on Manjaro plz
No.56343
>>56342I recall somebody saying its repository or package manager was crappy or something like that
No.56346
>>56344>>56344>bash>xfce>2500+ packages installed>5gb ram idle>'devuan'bro what are you even doing lmao
No.56347
>>56343pacman is simple and clean, apt-get/dpkg is like a taped together homunculus
No.56348
>>56346>>5gb ram idleit's cache for squid and unbound
>>the restyou might not like it but this is what perfection looks like
No.56349
I see my desktop maybe once per month, briefly
I always have a window open fullscreen
No.56350
>>56343Don't base your opinions on something some random person said sometime, and definitely don't base them on memes. That said I hate manjaro because I accidentally destroyed my system trying to install it. >:(
No.56351
>>56350this
fuck manjaro
NIGGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
No.56353
>>56350>I accidentally destroyed my system trying to install it. >:you are pissed because you "accidentally" destroyed your other OS that you were going to need to destroy anyway to install the new OS? lol
No.56355
>>56353you can have more than one operating sytem
No.56358
>>56355it wasn't clear in the post that it was supposed to be a dual boot
No.56360
>>56350>>56351im surprised. ive run manjaro solo boot and dual boot alongside windows and other linux distros without issue. polished look and polished performance. the only reason it isn't my daily driver is because i have issues getting my vpn's running on it here in china.
No.56419
I had a distrohopping period from 2014 to 2016, then spent a year on archlinux which was the most interesting and stable for me. It was so fun to customize and tinker with stuff and i'm not even a programmer or anything. But then I bought a decent PC and just installed W10 LTSC which is also very stable and too simple to use.
But your screenshots make me want to play with distros again and discover the progress they achieved. I wish I had a laptop to do such things. Sorry for the lack of picture.
No.56500
>>56414Update I have been using this for a while but I think I should explain the reasons Gnome works for me, and may not be worth it for you
1. I stay inside emacs for a lot of things, so I don't need to use my mouse. Gnome is heavily mouse driven and the keybinds are cumbersome and inconsistent compared to something like a minimal OS where (for example) i3, vim, mpv, ranger, and MUpdf all share keybinds and you don't have to use a mouse.
2. My mouse sensitivity is set high 4800 dpi. This means I can use the "hot corner" which causes pic related, a mode where you can search for programs, files or select a window.
3. I don't game. Gnome use wayland which AFAIK doesn't support wine and maybe some other important stuff but im not to sure yet
4. I have 8Gb ram.
No.56525
>>56524>idk why you guys don't just use windows.There are a lot of people explaining why they like Linux itt.
What distro did you try?
No.56526
>>56525I tried mint on my virtual machine and it wasn't very user friendly at all
No.56527
>>56524Probably because Linux is objectively better. The 3 issues a person can have with Linux are
>A. It's missing a piece of software that you're used to.In this case Linux usually has alternatives that are feature complete. The reason it's still a problem for people is because they don't want to get used to the alternatives. They might know rationally that Microsoft Excel doesn't offer more than Linux spreadsheet software, but they're so used to it that it seems like too much effort to learn something new.
>B. Incompatible with their hardware.Not a Linux issue, it's usually an issue of Microsoft paying nvidia to delay device drivers for Linux and Mac or Nvidia paying a game developer to sabotage performance on AMD platforms
>C. It's different.When someone gets really used to a specific thing it can be hard to change.
>D. Bonus: Fell for propagandaLinux always outperforms Windows except on the newest video games or video games that don't get native Linux ports. I suppose if someone only cares about new triple-A games then Windows is the best option. However, Linux still outperforms Windows in memory footprint, CPU utilization, disk space, and more. It's kind of well known that Windows cannot compete with MacOS and Linux but I thought I'd throw that in. Really, Windows is the gamers choice but not because it has good performance itself, but because most games are designed to perform well on Windows(because most gamers use Windows).
Windows: For people who don't know any better.
>-Horrible privacy since Win8>-Horrible performance(compared to Unix OS's) since msDOS>-Horrible for developers(most choose Mac or Linux)>-Horrible freedom and customizability>+Game devs target WindowsMacOS: For people who want something better than Windows and/or they fell for the Apple brand name.
>-Horrible privacy>-Horrible freedom and customizability>+Great performance>+Good for development>+Unix basedLinux: For people who want something better than Windows but don't care about Apple branding.
>-Dependency hell is a thing that can happen in some popular distros>-OS fragmentation(too many distros very few standards)>+Best performance, although only marginally better than Mac>+Best for development>+Unlimited freedom and customizability>+Okay privacy on average>+Unix based No.56533
>>56526>mint … wasn't very user friendlyIm not surprised.
Most so called beginner linux's fail to teach the user and also fail to work perfectly with just the non terminal tools.
No.56551
>>56550and vodka, dont forget about the vodka
No.56552
>>56550>monitor 1: discord or some gay chat>monitor 2: reddit or some browser-specific website>monitor 3: videogame>monitor 4: streamerthis is what people use multiple monitors on, am i wrong. it's stupid no thanks
No.56553
>>56552yeah, what do you use your one monitor?
also the fuck is a "browser-specific website"?!
No.56555
>>56552Nah, bro, it's more like:
>monitor 1: various stock exchange real-time graphs and charts>monitor 2: hackeresque terminal for taking screenshots quickly>monitor 3: ricing tutorial>monitor 4: web browser with hundreds of tabsAfter I add my fifth monitor and put some random anime in the background, my productivity will go through the roof.
No.56556
>>56554i found them funny and i have an obsession of archiving…
No.56557
>>56555>monitor 1: various stock exchange real-time graphs and chartsno
>monitor 2: hackeresque terminal for taking screenshots quicklyi have a hot key for that
>monitor 3: ricing tutorialno
>monitor 4: web browser with hundreds of tabsthat is surprisingly accurate
i have only 3 monitors tho mate
No.56598
>>56524the reason we don't use Windows is because we all had a reason to use Linux.
for me, I wanted a cooler Command Line™ and to have access the large amount of stronger linux softwares such as an upgraded notepad and resource conscious software.
No.56599
>>56558I try to not post cartoon pictures on /b/ anymore because they might report me to the FBI.
No.56682
this isn't a new computer i just don't really care about much doing anything on them anymore. i basically read, listen to music, or browse the internet or very simple things like that. same goes for customization or linux, i just don't care about any of that.
>>56527in time you'll realize this is all a waste of time anyways.
No.56746
God, what is that!
No.56754
>>56708
this whole desktop screams look at me and not in a good way
No.56756
>>56755simple and clean is always good, nice wallpaper as well
No.56758
>>56756Thanks man. Appreciate it
No.56762
>>56336Hello, fellow Firefox and uBlock Origin user. The DE is i3, right?
No.56766
>>5676321:9 monitor. It's great for multitasking (and gaming but lot of new games don't support it)
No.56768
>>56767>Graveyard KeeperI immediately assumed it was a game where you do graveyard maintenance, bury people and maybe pacify some ghosts but it's just some generic medieval themed rpg. What a letdown.
No.56771
>>56769I watched 20 minutes of a 10h gameplay skipping back and forth and 90% of the time he's either messing around the inventory screen, walking around some dungeon or looking for stuff in an open field. I mean I saw the graveyard once. Didn't look like a graveyard keeping simulator to me. That's the impression I got from the video at least.
Did you enjoy the game? I might actually watch the gameplay a little more attentively if it's worth it.
No.56773
>>56764Aaaaaaand I bricked it trying to change permissions for all of /etc/ hoping it wouldake php work. don't have another pc to make another installation media so I'm scvewd
No.56809
I miss power rangers dreams :/
Those alpha gatherings in 2019 were the best
No.56810
>>56809Across the Atlantic once more…
No reception again…
At least no one was mislead these time
No.57160
>>56807very interesting, what program makes the metal boxes for the eight ball?
No.57162
There is no need to post mine because its just Ubuntu 16 with default Unity shell and wallpaper.
Its funny that one of the reasons I wanted to switch to Linux was for these ricing\desktop threads but I soon realized it was retarded. Same for distro hopping, I will just stick with Ubuntu for a very, very long time, it has everything I need for development.
I dont want to go full sperg on this stuff like I do with basically every game that can be modded.
>>56682Very wise wiz. Linux is really only useful for tech-related work and if you cant deal with Windows updates and licenses or when need to go full tin-hat.
If you value your time or just want something that works stick to Windows until Linux becomes mainstream.
No.57359
>>56848what do you do with 16gigs of memory on that thing
No.57361
>>56555>>monitor 2: hackeresque terminal for taking screenshots quicklythe PrintScreen key dude! JFC…
>>56682I see the wisdom in your approach wiz and am slowly starting to use mine in a similar way
No.57584
>>57359Basically looking for memes all day
No.58508
>>57605What browser do you use? It looks cool.
No.58526
>>58508Pale Moon with Netscape theme
No.58529
>>58528>I even save all of my passwords on their managerBut can that manager save your post from being deleted by some cheeky wiz because you didn't edit out your file deletion key from the screenshot?
No.58530
>>58529go for it brother
i dont care about nothing
it's cool
just do what you gotta do
No.58558
>>58557You're gonna give me an anxiety attack. I cannot believe you trust others that much.
No.58559
How do you deal with all the little quirks of running windows software on linux? Or maybe even just software that has inferior integration with linux than it does on windows. I was just thinking steam is pretty awful on linux, randomly freezes, ui doesn't conform to the de, sometimes games even have linux builds but they run awfully and you need to tweak them a whole bunch. Also file managers don't work how I want them to, upload boxes in firefox/chrome only show list views. Pretty much every piece of software is just doing its own thing and occasionally(or maybe a bit more than occasionally) two things clash together, don't cooperate, and make a mess.
No.58566
>>58559You just accept the quirks and be all like, "this is the non-proprietary experience" and reassure yourself by saying stuff like, "at least I'm not using Windows"
No.58567
>>58558He probably changed the deletion password since it is a double post.
No.58570
>>58557Security and privacy are interlinked. You may not care about Google knowing everything, but I'm 100% sure you will care if your data gets leaked and people are stealing your money and doing crimes under your identity
No.58575
unless you're a hackerman-supreme, hyper concern for privacy is fake & gay and most are deluding themselves into thinking that they're actually secure because they use something like brave or aren't running proprietary software
the intel/AMD management engines backdoors literally allow for every keystroke you make to be accessible by TPTB and 99.9% of people won't be able to disable or mitigate these things, and those who try will end up bricking their machine
while I agree there are practices you can do to mitigate some surface level spying from advertisement networks, the vast majority of us are just as exposed to spying as the average boomer
No.58576
>>58570idk, it seems more likely that your average Bank is more susceptible of fucking up the security of their customer data than Google is.
No.58578
>>58557>>58567Looks like someone else did a civic duty by preemptively reposting it on my behalf. heh.
Anyways. Yeah,
>>58558 I used to be obsessively paranoid and protective regarding all of my data to the best of my ability and didn't use my real name on the internet for any service until 2019 or so, and I'd even do crazy shit like feed fake searches and run random youtube videos in the background to feed the algorithm irrelevant info in hopes of diluting their profile of me. For whatever reason over the past year I stopped caring and became curious about using all these newfangled immersive cloud services and got a good deal on a Pixel 5 and was all like, "meh, whatever".
I think I got demoralized into accepting that I'm irrelevant, and that "they" already know my entire internet traffic, posts, viewing habits, online activities since forever and that it's too late to clean all this up. If it were possible I wish I could wipe the entire internet & government servers of all of my online residue but I don't know how to do that.
No.58579
>>58576It is more about you getting malware or leaking your passwords. And Google is just full of stupid humans too. There are cybersecurity breaches literally every minute, EVERY big company is getting breached, it is insane. Most of it nobody even hears about because they are kept secret and used carefully, so people arent sure what happened when they get fucked. Seeing here that people dont know how bad the situation is is so disturbing
No.58721
>>58576If Google has my data then the security of my data is already fucked.
No.58908
>>58721there are backdoors in every CPU that is capable of reporting back your keystrokes and everything going through the USB port on your computer
even if you use non-proprietary shit, your information is still being transmitted to the BORG-cloud
No.59006
>>56346weak b8 m8 i r8 0/8
No.59013
>>58717I use a similar setup as a kiosk for emacs, which perhaps defeats the purpose of minimalism, but I've been happy with it for a long time. Nice wallpaper btw.
>>59009I noticed that with a low contrast wallpaper, the compression artifacts were clearly visible. You just have to set the wallpaper from outside the context menu to avoid that.
No.59014
I got wallpaper engine last steam sell.
I love it so much and I haven't even used it to it's full potential or made my own yet.
No.59020
>>59009You can fix it by installing GNU/linux
No.59022
>>59013>You just have to set the wallpaper from outside the context menu to avoid that.Doesn't seem to be the point as I've always been setting them up through an image viewer app. Eh not a big deal, I'll just keep using the Engine.
That image I posted butchers presentation of the issue btw, the gif format added its own compression.
>>59014Can you please elaborate if one needs constantly running Steam for it to work? I'm currently using a pirated version but would buy it just for the fact of its laughably cheap price. But the supposed Steam dependency is such a deal breaker. I don't even let game clients run outside of playtime. Then there's downloading others' wallpapers by "subscribing" to them… ugh.
To stay on topic, here's the desktop. Stock Rainmeter to get rid of shortcuts that I haven't bothered to even reskin yet, and taskbar on auto-hide.
No.59024
>>59022You don't need steam running for already downloaded/subscribed wallpapers but you do need it running to get or search for new ones using the workshop.
No.59042
>>59024Thanks. Will probably get the licensed version after all.
No.59070
>>56807May I ask for font?
No.59071
>>59070terminal font was sgi fonts, audacious was using lanapixel
No.59121
I feel like such a mong as a Windows user among all these Linuxers with customized layouts/builds. With more computer grammar gained recently it started to dawn on me just how clunky and all over the place Windows OS is. "Muh gamez" used to be the major turn-off but I'm seeing games with Linux compatibility everywhere now. I really should just make that jump, maybe with the next machine.
No.59122
>>59121i will probably make the switch when windows 10 is obsolete. even this shit pisses me off though. after disabling updates, and windows forcing itself to try and update anyway, it has unregistered my machine and so i have some gay watermark about registering now, and several features are just outright disabled now. what a piece of ass
No.59123
>>59121>how clunky and all over the place Windows OS isLinux is worse with this, your entire system runs on software written by a bunch of different people all held together with glue and tape, you can completely brick your system by just updating a bunch of packages
>games with Linux compatibility everywhere nowMassively exaggerated, every game with linux compatibility has a "but" at the end "it runs, but…" this "but" can be anything from some minor issues that are slightly annoying, to completely unplayable without jumping through a bunch of hoops and messing with tons of config files just so you can play a game for 20 minutes. Sure, compatibility is a lot better than it was 10 years ago but it's still shit. My usual problems are low fps, input lag, bugs with sound playback, random crashes, and visual artifacts/glitches.
>>59122>windows forcing itself to try and updatefirst,
https://www.w10privacy.de/deutsch-start/download/, it works fine and I never had any regression of settings
>secondWhy do you have a problem with updating your pc? I've heard this line from nearly everyone I ever interacted with, nothing bad has ever happened from installing an update, I just occasionally check if theres an update out and then I download it and then install it before I go to bed
>it has unregistered my machinejust use hwidgen
No.59128
>>59123Thanks for the info and sorry for late reply. Guess it's not all that black-and-white, huh.
I'm not completely against using Windows, just tired with its rough edges that you can do nothing about, only cover or pretty it up.
In the end though it probably has to deal more with a longing for "my own" or "perfect" OS, where everything is just the way one wants. Switching for Linux/GNU might not help with that itch. At the very least I should still try them on a spare machine once/if I get one.
No.59142
>>59128>In the end though it probably has to deal more with a longing for "my own" or "perfect" OS, where everything is just the way one wants. Switching for Linux/GNU might not help with that itch. Not the person you're replying to, but I'd give it a shot. Linux undoubtedly has its issues, and it's true that, at the end of the day, Linux is composed of a ton of different parts made by different people, and there are a billion different distros and DEs, so consistency can be all over the place (it's getting better, though, in my opinion). However, I'd argue that one of the nice things about Linux is that you can basically put together your own desktop environment from scratch, which means that your desktop can (mostly) be as consistent and polished as you're willing to make it. It also means that you can implement a ton of personalized functionality that would be difficult to achieve with an WYSIWYG program or operating system. It's hard to describe if you're used to using systems like that, but with some imagination you can get really creative with what you make your computer do. If nothing else, it's fun. For example, here's a demonstration of a program that lets you make your own menus/prompts, which you can use in conjunction with scripts you write:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9m723tAurAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCEXY46t3OAI think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say you can "brick your system" just from an update–I've certainly never heard of a Linux update wiping people's files the way Windows has done in the past (repeatedly). I use Arch which has a reputation for being unstable, and the most I've ever had to do is just hold back an update since some programs weren't launching (and it turns out my system was fucked due to something that was my own fault anyway). On the note of games, there are a lot of games out there that are genuinely just a one-click play through Proton, but there's still a LOT out there that require minor tweaks to get working. That being said, if Valve is serious about the Steam Deck as a product, they're presumably going to strive to clean up those rough edges. It doesn't hurt to keep a Windows dual boot (or, if you're adventurous, a Windows VM with GPU passthrough) around for gaming.
No.59156
>>59142>you can basically put together your own desktop environment from scratch, which means that your desktop can (mostly) be as consistent and polished as you're willing to make itthen you open firefox, and you go to upload an image or file and…. it doesn't use your default file manager…. Just one of the simple things that annoys me, but there are many more small issues like this, gtk/qt bullshit, stuff like steam that doesn't follow any rules whatsoever, just random applications not conforming to your rules because the devs were just like "idk lol works on windows"
>I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to say you can "brick your system" just from an update–I've certainly never heard of a Linux update wiping people's files the way Windows has done in the past Well not completely bricked, you could go in and probably get a terminal up and try to fix whatever went wrong, going over google searches for hours and for example finding out your display manager broke or something because it doesn't work with some new libs you updated or whatever. The potential for this tomfoolery is definitely there which isnt there for windows, also never experienced any file wipes on windows in my life, only time Ive seen that is when my parents get angry because they want to use their pc but they told it to update so they just keep shutting it off mid-update/repair until it doesn't work anymore
>if Valve is serious about the Steam Deck as a product, they're presumably going to strive to clean up those rough edgestheir client is awful on linux, the new chat thing they added a while back has a memory leak on linux and crashes every few hours if you are using it often, it pretty much dropped support for custom theming now and doesn't respect your DE's rules, source games have horrible performance on linux, you can't even play goldsrc games on linux unless you have some specific sound drivers. Valve is a mess with linux, I don't expect much from them at this point
No.59447
>>56336fedora workstation default install, pretty much a gnome os, i even use gnome web (epiphany) for everything, this computer is too overpowered for my use but at least i won't have to worry about redhat being redharted for 5 or 10 years; i only play taisei and poke with random games i find in gnome software
i mean they are smart enough not to fill 16 gb of ram needlessly, right?
right?
No.59590
I never see my desktop anymore. It's always just the browser on top of it. :/
No.59908
https://chmodcommand.com/chmod-700/i turned off the others and group permissions
No.59927
>>59885good post, fixed the issue i was also having
No.60735
>>56550>using kali as main system>using discordWhat the fuck are you doing?
No.60736
>>60735Hacking your mom's facebook.
No.61620
>>61619how'd you make it look like that
No.61632
>>61620Here's what I used.
Open-Shell for the start menu
Stardock WindowsBlinds &
IconPackager for the theme and icons
Theme -
https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/9233/Icons -
https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/iconpackager/2157/ No.61655
Windows 10
Background is picture I took of lights
Fl studio
Folder where files go to die, otherwise known as "sort"
No.61661
>>61660nice think I'll rice up my machine again because I recently learned how to do some stuff I couldn't before so I'll be making new scripts anyway.
No.61694
>>61693It's Wizchan current year, lower your expectations a little.
No.61698
>>61693That was in the spring 2020 semester. I dropped out a year later in spring 2021 and I've remained a NEET since then.
No.61962
How has nobody deleted the thread/image using OP's password? Gentleman's honor and all that?
No.61963
>>61962doing mean things is mean
No.61996
>>61962If the threads is old and has a lot of replies, you can't delete it, even if you want to.
No.64364
based i3 wm
No.64375
>>56708
The wallpaper is beautiful, but holy shit, organize your files
No.64384
>>64363>biko3Hide yer waifus lads, we gotz a rapist over here.
No.64462
>>64363>PCSX2 1.6.0any reason you're not using the latest nightly releases?
No.64463
>>64462not that guy, but i checked what version mine is. somehow i also have 1.6
to answer your question: if it works, it doesn't require updating
No.64471
>>64463nightly is better in every way and there is an auto-update feature now like in dolphin and citra
No.64472
>>64471newer does not equal better. if it works, it works
No.64474
>>64472bitrot does happen, but I agree with you broadly that new isnt always better.
No.64480
>>64472it is objectively better. there is little reason to stick with "stable" pcsx2 releases over the newer builds (which arent any less stable as a matter of fact). i thought maybe that poster was just unaware of that.
No.64498
>>64480in what objective ways?
No.65511
>>65510The reddit tab btw is for porn (I'm not a normie)
No.65578
>>56418update since then
On the left desktop there is space for text (blurred here) from a text file. I use it for reminders, plans, …
I'm pretty content with my setup, I can do everything I need to do. There are still minor issues here and there. (keyboard shortcuts get reset once in a while for some reason (the lxqt ones in globalkeyshortcuts.conf): probably the most annoying issue for now; after unlocking my screen, volume is always set to 50%, etc.).
I plan to upgrade to debian bookworm sometime soon, this will allow me to remove some manually installed packages, hopefully fix some bugs, and make things better otherwise.
No.65589
does anyone use linux pclinuxos kde desktop?
No.66289
I run Arch Linux on my desktop and Void Linux on my laptop. Both are great distros. I use either IceWM or Ratpoison depending on the mood. IceWM emulates old MS Windows (but it has also optionally support for sloppy focus), and Ratpoison is just like Tmux but for managing GUI windows (it's a manually tiling WM. By default all windows are maximized but you can split the screen if/when you want to). Ratpoison also has optional support for sloppy focus but if you want Ratpoison with click to focus (and other goodies), you might want to try StumpWM. StumpWM is written and configured in Common Lisp but it's more heavy than Ratpoison and some say StumpWM is more unstable but I had zero issues with it when I used it for a few days (I just didn't need the extra features it has). Also, note that typically you want to use keybinding for focusing windows in Ratpoison and StumpWM (using the mouse for that is optional).
>>56341Since you asked… Manjaro is not a very good distro. Read
https://archive.fo/B8yll (or
https://web.archive.org/web/20230708070056/https://manjarno.snorlax.sh The original domain has expired)
The gist of it is:
* Manjaro uses a bleeding edge rolling release distro (Arch Linux) as it's base but Manjaro doesn't push updates to its package repos immediately. Arch Linux expects that the users are always fully up-to-date (only the latest versions are supported and Arch repos are updated very often). From design point of view, this leads to a problem: How to ensure that bugs (possibly security related) get fixed on time on Manjaro? Arch Linux doesn't support any old packages (they tell you to update your system with pacman -Syu).
* They replaced LibreOffice with a proprietary office suite:
https://itsfoss.com/libreoffice-freeoffice-manjaro-linux/ (they have reverted this but only after the community reacted badly to this change)
* Manjaro's own AUR (Arch User Repository) helper tool (in effect) DDoS'ed AUR because of bug its code (if you are looking for a good AUR helper, I recommend rua. It's pretty nice and it lets you review PKGBUILD files and patch files easily if you want to).
EndeavourOS is more stable but just as easy to use as Manjaro. Arch Linux also has an installer (archinstall) but I recommend either Linux Mint, Xubuntu/Kubuntu or EndeavourOS for new Linux users.
No.66465
>>56767have you read denial of death yet? was surprised to see it there.
No.66477
>>65513>activate windowsok
No.66831
My desk is very messy though…
No.66835
I use Qubes OS as a daily driver. It's incredible. The level of security and flexibility compared to linux/windows basically makes me feel like im cumming every day. Dozens of interconnected disposable virtual machines spinning up an self-destructing with a few clicks. I have a separate PC with windows just for games and hi-res films.
Windows is so hostile and unusable now it is shocking, Qubes is unironically more comfortable. I can't post a picture because admin doesnt let me post them with VPNs.
No.66843
>>66835Sounds like an excellent OS for a dedicated hardcore child photography pics machine
No.66855
>>66854What does that do?
No.66856
>>66855"Activates" "Windows"
;)
No.66871
>>66856not him but im used to it, my windows is activated, an update service is just disabled
No.66879
>>56807wiz, if you're still here do you mind sharing your wallpaper?
No.66936
>>66935Instead you're an anime watching gamer dork. Much better!
No.66942
>>66936nothing in that pic suggest an affinity for anime
No.66944
>>66943From what anime though? It's not even in an anime style, or showing any real significant styling at all.
No.66963
>>66944if i had to guess, probably elfen lied but in a different style
i still remember a kid tripping in class in highschool and an elfen lied dvd box falling out from his trench coat lol
No.66975
I recently switched to Arch from Void. I really wanted to get into Debian but I was having issues getting qtile to work. Any advice from the ricers here on how I can get past this "externally managed" error that I keep running into with Deb?
No.66977
>>66976You got it, Wiz. I need to boot up the VM and Try again to get that for you.
My problem is related to
https://github.com/qtile/qtile/discussions/4542 No.66978
I… I am having issues getting qemu to work correctly. Merry xmas I am going back to Void. I need to learn more and get good before I ask for help. Still new to Linux and I guess I know less than I thought. Breaking things.
No.66979
>>66978>Still new to Linux and I guess I know less than I thought. Breaking thingsLinux ships broken. You just have to learn how to handle it in a way that the fragments don't separate.
No.66981
>>66975If you’re going to be running Linux as a desktop OS it’s probably easier just to run an Arch based system simply for all of the documentation and AUR. I would consider myself exceptionally Linux savvy but trying to tinker around on a Debian system was just problem after problem, especially if you needed software that isn’t included in the official repository… (almost never an issue with an Arch system).
No.67451
>>58508it says pale moon right there faggot
No.67960
>>67955Nord Papirus I believe
https://www.deviantart.com/niivu/art/Papirus-Icons-786691314Or either another "Nord" or "Papirus" by the same author found in his GitHub pack of all released icons+themes
No.68890
I wish I had a computer, but I am a poor disabled NEET.
No.68891
>>68890I feel you wizzie,you're not alone…
No.68904
>>68890>>68891What would be the computer you guys realistically want?
No.69026
>>68904just a gayming pc that can run video game engine
No.69203
will someone help a retard such as myself… i know basically nothing about computers but i wanna protect my data and have my computer run smoother, plus the customization of linux sounds awesome. where do i even start what is a distro
No.69204
>>69203There's a billion of guides online, use one of those instead of wasting our time wanting to be spoonfed in a thread with an unrelated topic.
No.69205
>>62401how do i turn my windows into 90s mac
No.69216
>>67097S-tier abstract wallpaper
No.69220
>>65511watching porn makes you a normie
No.69268
>>69267what distro are you using and why this distro?
No.69269
>>69268>what distro are you using?NixOS, as the pfetch output shows.
>and why this distro?Purely stateless and declarative system configuration and software management. It's what ended my distrohopping and I've stuck with it for years. If the Nix manifesto resonates with you, give it a try.
https://nixos.org/guides/how-nix-works/ No.69270
>>69269sorry Im tech illetrate, maybe if you give me an example of use I can understand
No.69271
>>69270It's some hippie "Free as in freedom" Linux slop that tries to set itself apart from the other thousand by borrowing the Recycle Bin and System Restore features from Windows 2000. Wow, their "values" page even says they're diverse!
No.69272
>>69271I see (-___-') thanks
No.69375
>>69267What wm and bar are you using? (Very based for nixos, its also my main os)
No.69382
>suckless setup
>it actually fucking sucks
No.69437
>>69375>wmhyprland
>barwaybar
I regret going to wayland because I'm on an nvidia gaming laptop and I play video games on external monitors (which is supported about as well as you'd expect), and generally it has only given me problems, but your mileage may vary. I would probably move to DWM on X11 on if I could muster the time to do it, purely for a) minimalism/speed/elegance and b) Nix makes it so easy to apply patches with derivation overriding.
No.69440
>>69439Yup! It's a Galaxy Tab A8, I genuinely use it as my main computer nowadays, it fits my usecase perfectly, though of course I wouldn't recommend this kind of setup for everyone, at best I'd say tablets are great supplementary devices for most, depending on what you'd like to do using one.
No.69441
>>69440and for what purpose do you use yours?
No.69442
>>69441I browse the web, consume content, post on imageboards, read books and comic books/manga, draw and play video games. I enjoy doing all of these things with a stylus, and removing the keyboard when not needed, which are the reasons I prefer it over my laptop, it size just makes it more comfortable to use for me, also easier to take with me when going somewhere else, of course all of the things I've mentioned can be done on a laptop, but I find that media consumption, reading and especially drawing definitely feel better and more practical on my tablet, it also helps that my tablet's newer than my laptop, with a healthier battery leading to more screen time before having to charge it, though of course a newer laptop could fix that for me.
No.69443
>>69442you seem to share a good bond with your tab, hope it will last forever👍
also can you show one of your drawing , Im curious to see
and what game do you play on it?
No.69445
>>69444nice drawing!
>romsgood idea, the tablet is perfect for those games, wide screen and the all
No.69448
>>69446what game have you been playing? do you think you can play shafow of the colosus?
No.69449
>>69448>Shadow of the ColossusNow that's one my tablet definitely can't run.
I've been playing mostly NES, recently finished DuckTales for the 1st time and it was a blast, now I'm replaying TECMO World Cup Soccer on NES because this FIFA Club World Cup that's taking place in the USA got me in the mood for some soccer too.
No.69450
>>69449enjoy your games. there are good games too that aren't sotc. also weird seeing a american wanting to play soccer
No.70563
I use Ubuntu 24 LTS. Yes, I know Ubuntu is one of the worst distros. For me it's just really convenient, just install and it werks, very little tinkering or tweaking. I know this kind of hesitancy is how normies end up on windows for their entire life.
I only use my laptop for internet browsing anyway.
No.70564
how do you play video game?
No.70565
>>70564Linux h4xx0rz have elevated beyond the need for video game.
No.70569
I wish I was tech literate. having A linux OS sounds cool
No.70570
>>70569Linux for desktop use is still trash, you have to choose between two janky display servers, one that's like 40 years old and the other is jank
None of the android display solutions have been ported to desktop linux, that gpl license is worthless
No.70575
>>70570why people are using linux distros if it is jank shit? I will never know; just because the software is written differently to work with an hardware
No.70576
>>70575Because windows is "Fascist" and "invades your privacy" and doesn't "respect your freedoms". Those using Linux as a protest against windows are the embodiment of "cutting off your nose to spite your face".
No.70578
>>70576I want a linux now
No.70736
>>70735I've never understood this argument. Do you want to be able to reproduce your installation on different machines in some supposed internet blackout You can make custom ISOs on Windows, Linux, BSD and probably Solaris and OSX too. Why would windows be more suited for the job than linux?
No.70737
>>70735You'll be happy to know that Linux does not require an internet connection to function at all and that USB installation is the standard method for most distros out there. No offense intended but it's very clear you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>70736>you can make custom ISOs on Windows, Linux, BSD and probably Solaris and OSX too. Well yes obviously you can but again that guy really is completely clueless.
No.70738
>>70736Again, if I know the few pcs/laptops I own, I can just have everything I need set aside on USBs EASILY and I understand them well enough to know I'm fine whatever happens.
I can just click next next done… yeah I could mirror my entire boot drive, and software etc, but eventually something breaks and it's very likely to "just work" even on other PCs.
Software is another point.
I can just have the installers ready, all dependencies baked into them with the redistributables, no need to hunt down anything later on, no need to update for any reason, no need to emulate.
>Why would windows be more suited for the job than linux?Simplicity, by default compatibility and by-design software distribution differences.
>>70737No clue why you even bother with this hyperhostile response while failing to understand what I asked.
Even on the most "just works" distros your point might only ever be valid if you have an offline backup of the repo and that will only help you with stuff that is already packaged at the point in time for your specific system when you decided to make a backup.
No compatibility with future software releases because whoops my dependencies are fucked, whoops something is broken/incompatible I need to hunt down a fix which, again, needs an internet connection.
You really think when you copy paste some command into your console or install something with a package manager and the screen flashes with a ton of text for you in the process it just magically pulls all of that out of the wall socket?
Again, I'll give you two USB drives.
Your job is to set up 3 different computers (offline), one has an AMD cpu/igpu with an NVIDIA gpu, the other has no gpu, the third has an AMD gpu.
All this while they have to be compatible with running a set of software, half of which might require some form of emulation.
Even ignoring the specifics of needing emulation, let us assume that all software you will run is native to linux in some form. Can you reproduce your setup flawlessly with the given resources?
I don't doubt it.
I hope you might see how windows lends itself better to this task in much more simple ways especially once we account for software compatibility out of the box.
No.70740
>>70738> Software is another point. I can just have the installers ready, all dependencies baked into them with the redistributables, no need to hunt down anything later on, no need to update for any reason, no need to emulate.On Linux this will come as flatpaks and appimages. Single files that include everything needed for app to work.
No.70741
>>70739I disagree with the second part just based on my personal history with these, but I'm sure things improved tremendously in the past decade.
In general yeah the Atomic distro example was something I was looking into and hoping some have experiences to share about.
Any of you ever messed with them yourselves?
Anecdotal experiences of wizards are more value to me than specs and hypotheticals.
I wonder how truly universal those are though. I reckon at the very least I would have to make a separate image for each device.
>>70740That is also more of a hypothetical thing that I've yet to witness myself working without issues.
Do you think you could reasonably go without updating your base system for 4-6 years and still use new releases by utilizing flatpaks/appimages?
I've had the same XP installer disc work on computers a decade apart, same for win7 etc.
I reckon if I found new hardware that was considered junk I'd be able to install something from one of my USBs on it and have it be a useful device if need be. I don't see this level of universality in linux.
Btw. if you have any recommendation for a specific path I could test I'm more than willing to.
I don't doubt that I could just take the latest stable release of any distro and get it to install, but to get anything else on it is dubious in my mind, especially if anything proprietary at all is needed.
No.70743
>>70741Honestly, this is a very interesting topic and I don't really know. I just did a quick search in thread and I see there is no mentions of the term "airgapped". And this is exactly how it's called. I suggest to read whatever you can find using this term:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+for+airgappedHere are some hypotheses I have, all untested:
AppImages are the best candidate for software working after years of not updating the system, BUT they are often just broken as-is even on recently updated system, many apps still don't package them properly.
Flatpaks may work, but they definitely have some internal dependency stuff, but I'm not entirely sure it's actually needed for apps themselves, or just for flatpak infrastructure keeping itself working with current system version, so it's possible that those dependencies are only needed for flatpaks to keep working after you update the system, but if don't update it at all, newly installed end-user app flatpaks may keep working without those internal dependency updates. As an example, when you update your system nvidia drivers, flatpak needs to update its internal nvidia flatpak packages.
I also think many systems have one or another way to pull in their native packages with all dependencies, so for example there might be a way to ask apt or other package manager to fetch a package and all its dependencies. And actually many of those package managers download metadata of all packages and then work with this local metadata, which means, you can transfer package db metadata to airgapped PC, then run dependency resoltion there, get a recipe (what versions of dependencies need to be fetched / etc), then transfer this recipe to network-connected PC, execute there and transfer results to airgapped PC.
Regarding something that can be installed on multiple PCs needing different drivers, another idea I've just got is to actually make your own package repository that you will install stuff from on your system. I think many package managers support this. You basically configure some local files as repository for systems package manager and it will be possible to install different sets of packages depending on current hardware.
No.70744
>>70743Thanks. I'll try to mess around with flatpaks and see where that takes me.
So far for this usecase I really think my solution is much much simpler and idiotproof.
>AppImages are the best candidate for software working after years of not updating the system, BUT they are often just broken as-is even on recently updated system, many apps still don't package them properly.Indeed. This is why I had my doubts about this route to begin with.
No.70745
>>70738>Again, if I know the few pcs/laptops I own, I can just have everything I need set aside on USBs EASILY and I understand them well enough to know I'm fine whatever happens.Oh, so you just want an easy GUI OS.
>I can just have the installers ready, all dependencies baked into them with the redistributables, no need to hunt down anything later on, no need to update for any reason, no need to emulate.OP, what the heck changes from windows? If you need to update you also need internet on windows. If for some reason you dont want the dependency system, even if it has no reason at all to break if you never touch the package manager again (since you dont want to use the internet anymore), you can just compile static binaries. Even windows has programs that need certain versions of libraries. They wont magically break offline.
>Symplicity, by default compatibility and by-design software distribution differences.More like, Stupidity, by default compatibility thanks to its popularity and i have zero idea what that last business term is supposed to mean.
This is a very stupid argument. You just like windows because you're used to it.
>whoops my dependencies are fucked, whoops something is broken/incompatible I need to hunt down a fix which, again, needs an internet connection.Dependencies dont break offline. Online, they barely break on Arch anymore, literally never on BSDs. Do you work for microshit or something?
>You really think when you copy paste some command into your console or install something with a package manager and the screen flashes with a ton of text for you in the process it just magically pulls all of that out of the wall socket?Ok OP i get it, you're some guy, probably in some CS college course or some IT job, frustrated that some colleague uses linux, so you have to make up silly excuses about your windows installations being "superior".
>>70743Airgapped means you never connect it to the internet or to any other external device after installation. Not what you want to do.
No.70746
>>70745Am I reading some dude roleplaying as a /g/ meme on wizchan? Or are you really just willfully ignorant?
No.70747
>>70746Ohh the one-liner answer to the wall of text? Touched a nerve sweetie?
No.70752
>>70745>>70747Average Archtard
No.70753
>Complains (derailing thread)
>Everyone tells him complaints are wrong
>Samefags and continues to derail thread
No.70754
>>70753Just to clarify I did not respond to you the last time. Nor did I care much. Based on the content already in the thread I wouldn't say it's derailing exactly, but I'm fine with calling it that.
Fair enough if some mods decide to delete my posts.
Again I'm still unsure why you are so overly hostile about this (misinterpreting or misunderstanding everything I wrote), to me using linux would be preferable if it actually suited my needs.
I don't feel tribal about either.
No.70755
>>70754I have no idea who do you think you're replying to. Maybe specify it first.
No.70757
>>70745> Airgapped means you never connect it to the internet or to any other external device after installation. Not what you want to do.It's often used in sense "not connected to any realtime networks, such as ethernet, wifi or bluetooth, but you can bring files in and out using physical carriers like USB for example".
No.70759
>>70758That looks pretty cool. How much of this gets hidden if you open something fullscreen?
No.70760
>>70759All panels are set to "dodge windows", when browser is active and maximized for example, they're all hidden by default, and only pop up (overlaying browser without resizing it) when I move cursor to the edge of screen.
No.70761
Notice how most of the desktops posted here have CPUs from 10 years ago or 8 gb ram, it’s probably because people who make these threads are larping and install those distros on old laptops they rarely use while their actual everyday PC probably has a generic windows build
No.70762
>>70761I'd say it's a 50-50 between larping and poverty. The latter group seem to enjoy what they got a lot more too.
No.70763
>>70761We get it, you really like Windows. Can you stop derailing the thread without even saging now?
No.70764
>>70761Desktop ricing looking cool vs being nice for everyday use are things that are often in direct conflict. Because very often cool colors, transparency effects and quirky fonts are actually painful to use long-term. That's why I settle for default color scheme for terminal, browser and vscode for example, but allow TokyoNight for window decoration (
>>70758), even though there is TokyoNight themes for all of those. And I also make it so my rice doesn't get in the way when windows are maximized like explained in
>>70760.
No.70765
>>70763>:( wizbro not every poster is the same person here. Wish we had poster IDs or something.
No.70766
This site don't let me post any images, it says this: "In order to upload files you must disable your proxy at this time". But I haven't any proxy
No.70768
>>70761I think you're a fucking idiot. But don't take it to heart; instead just believe that I'm only LARPing as someone who thinks that.
There are a lot of reasons to believe these fresh installs of generic popular Linux versions with minimal alteration or program installs are genuine. For starters, consider how most of the Internet's users these days, especially on Wizchan, are broke third-worlders who can't even afford the electricity to power a desktop PC. Toasters are all they have, and the main selling point of Linux is that it supposedly runs well (as well as Linux can) on old hardware. Compound this with the fact that Thirdies (ironically) don't know how to pirate Windows and you have a good recipe for a disproportionate amount of tech-illiterate brown 'nixkids interjecting themselves in to the 'nix subculture with their untoasted breadboard desktops. That's their normal, and these threads appear to them as a celebration of that normalcy. They post to affirm that they are normal.
Also consider how many people, especially the youths, don't have any need or want for computing ability beyond what a cellphone can offer. Everything they do can be delegated to a couple of apps that are just web browsers in their own right. The average kid isn't digging through filesystems to crack games, installing mods, doing any video editing or art… They browse YouTube and social media and maybe play Fortnite on Steam. Linux is perfect for this style of computing so their old highschool netbook just acts as a bigger smartphone.
You also need to realize that even for a Westerner on NEETbux, old hardware is normal hardware. The need to upgrade only comes with a desire to do more with a system, and the cost of upgrading has gone up. Performance increases have been plateaued for a decade now so enthusiast hardware from 10 years ago still holds a candle to today's expensive iterations. The desire to play all the current vidya has waned out of being the dominant goal for even hardcore GVMERS, and the quality and quantity of old games is good enough that there's no need to upgrade hardware. Superficial roadblocks such as Steam's GUI version not supporting windows 7 is enough to make GVMERS who only play CLVSSIC GVMES hop on to Ubuntu or something so they can maintain seamless access to all the good old shit they bought on Steam for like a dollar.
Finally, it's important to remember that nobody cares! No one besides the most depraved perverts will waste time arguing online about operating systems. There's pretty much a zero percent chance that anyone will reply to your post.
No.70769
>>70767What make it silly? To me it looks cool
No.70771
>>70768>don't know how to pirate Windows They do. All of them have pirated windows
No.70775
>>70772I swear to you man I'm still savouring your desktop.
How long did it take you to make it?
No.70776
>>70775i really did not expect that
not much really. the position of the icons, the pager in the bottom right and the xterm icons are the default fvwm openbsd config (picrel). i knew how the fvwmrc config works already (i previously made an SGI IRIX themed one) so i just took a look at some xpm icons that i found and put them in the ~/.fvwmrc file. I can share the icons, the tiles or even the configs in a tarball if you want. or some old ass websites for old xpm icons
No.70778
>>70776I didn't know fvwm, it looks like my style. I use xfce with a windows xp classic style. I'd like try out your desktop but I am some lazy and don't want to make you upload your configs unnecessarily.
what's your main desktop?
No.70779
>>70778it's fine. xfce can also be made to look somewhat "retro".
i'm still on fvwm because it's in the base distribution, with a config mostly similar to the default one with some changes on the menu (the config is piss easy), but openbsd has an old (security patched) version because fvwm switched to GPL in the late 90s/early 2000s. sometimes i switch to cwm, it's basically dwm but easier and also in the base distribution.
This
https://datagubbe.se/1yearconf/ is a config for the fvwm version you're likely to find on linux. this
https://cs.gettysburg.edu/~duncjo01/archive/ is an archive of many old icons, and this
https://xteddy.org/xwinman/ is basically a showcase of many old X window managers, including fvwm, afterstep (which is something like
>>56807) etc.
No.70788
>>70781you always have that wallpaper or did you only put it to show it?
No.70789
>>70788i always use wallpapers like that, i change wallpaper frequently because im bored and jaded all the time
No.70790
>>70789I see. I couldn't use a wallpaper like that even one time.