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 No.324033[Reply]

I don't think AI will be around for long, and not for the reason people think.

AI is very old technology, the LLMs utilized are from the 1950s. When computers were first invented they tried using artificial neurons that learnt (the Perceptron). The problem was back then memory and scaling, you could get one node to learn but by the time it went to the next it started to forget. The hardware wasn't there. Because of this AI bots relied on binary tree if/else statements and weren't programmed to learn for decades.

All that happened in the 2010s was that hardware became available to stack LLMs on top of each other. The technology behind AI is veeeeery old, it's a hardware problem. If you're some nerd that reads into tech innovations you'll find the same is true for most inventions. Wood pulp paper wasn't suddenly eureka invented in the 19th century, it's that the steam engine made the processing of wood through mulching possible. The automatic threshing machine wasn't eureka invented, it's that there were dozens of invisible small innovations that fed into it that went unthanked, like the complex mathematic epicycloid calculations that went into the gear functions that some mathematics nerds and clockmakers perfected decades ago.

Anyways, the actual supply chains that are currently feeding the current top of the line GPUs and chips are unsustainable. They're spread across so many countries and it's like a precarious inverted pyramid, each part of the chip fabrication is a monopoly because it's stretching human ingenuity and ability to its absolute limit. And for every part of the input (the lenses, the robotic arms, the chemical acids, the light diodes for the lasers, etc) there's like another 5,000+ companies making bespoke tools for specialists. It's quite literally not cost effective or arguably even possible to scale production further. Like the Concorde and other supersonic jets, the rising costs are not due to economic constraints, but human. The concorde went out of service, and likewise AI will too.

The AI bubble will burst once they try to recuperate costs, once they find out that businesses don't want to pay $100,000 for the slop, they'll get a government bail out. The government will bail it out thinking they're getting a palatinr tier surveillance engine. This will turn out to be a white elephant because the AI data centers built will require replacing every 3 years due to the GPUs burning out, costing hundreds Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.324369

>>324033
Same here. I've been following this guy Ed Zitron for a few years, he's been one of the first LLM skeptics that got traction. Think he even appeared on some american news stations recently. LLMs haven't proven in any capacity that they are actually better at any tasks than humans in the real world.
Benchmarks are set up specifically to measure arbitrary work loads that are made so an LLM can understand them. They use metrics like "lines of code written by AI" because it's impossible to measure the quality of said code or how maintainable it is in the long run (though experienced coders have talked about how much of a cluster fuck it is due to limited context windows and lack of awareness for things outside of the current task). LLMs are incapable of generating new solutions for anything, just mix and match existing stuff that sounds reasonable to everyone in the lower 50th percentile of knowledge in any given field. Hallucination will not be solved as it's just a fundamental quirk of how these things work. The curve of improvement is starting to flatten, just throwing more training inputs is no longer producing better outputs. Datacenter build outs are already stopping, big tech companies pulling out of their commitments or putting them on pause because there's no demand. All of it is just propped up by the years worth of backorders between AI companies, chip manufacturers and datacenter builders, which is a circlejerk of venture capital investment.
I don't know if I truly see a regression in tech but maybe that would be nice. It's not like the increase in raw hardware power has been used very well by the software in most cases. But since the chip fabs are sold out for the next few years we will definitely see stagnation on the consumer side. Maybe if enough PC parts manufacturers die out in the meantime due to lack of demand in the consumer space (((they))) will try to make everyone shift to cloud PCs. All of this LLM shit is so retarded.

 No.324526

>>324369
>LLMs are incapable of generating new solutions for anything
Then how come they solved some previously unsolved mathematical problems?

 No.324527

>>324526
Math problems don't rely on new solutions. The nature of numbers don't change from one problem to the next. The only barrier to solving a math problem is how many of the numbers in the problem can be remembered and comprehended by any given human or machine at a time. A human or calculator doesn't have the memory to keep track of all the numbers at once. An LLM hooked up to a cloud computing supercenter, or a modern gaming PC with 64gb of RAM, has the headroom to keep track of all numbers in a sequence. The calculation functions the LLM is running are the same as those on a student scientific calculator, but now with beefed up memory enough to keep track of where it is in the sequence and what it has done so far. It's a solid case of "throwing more memory at it is the solution".

 No.324603

>>324527
>literal description of inventing
Oh, mental gymnastics, mental gymnastics

 No.324629

>>324603
Definitions aren't mental gymnastics. You math nerds are all mentally ill.



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 No.323901[Reply]

No politics or religion in the crawl thread, please.

>Ambient sounds to wash away distraction

https://asoftmurmur.com/
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 No.324266

People eat way too many proteins, americans eat a lot of meat and eggs every day which is so unhealthy, they don't get better muscles they just ruin their liver and kidneys

 No.324275

>>324266
Obsessed o algo

 No.324559

It's wild that the trajectory from horse armour was to the ESA claiming third-party/private servers are illegal.

I blame normalfags and zoomers.

 No.324560

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"I blame normalfags and zoomers."

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Happy "White stars on blue with red and White stripes anime succubus bikini day"!



 No.323839[Reply]

what does your body 'think' about you?
>about your management of your personal human organism.
>about your decisions on what to put in it, or on it.
>about where you take it and when and how often.
>about how you use it

i reject the normoid idea that the body can not think or have an opinion. electricity flows into every cell, not just the bracrabls. life and emotion are all over the body except for in those people who believe their body is just a machine used to park the brain in front of screens.

i do think the body is it's own thing and ideally it is in a mutual loving relationship with the brain. i guess many group-minded people who know nothing but war will have a hostile relationship between body and brain.

i take good care of my body and i love it. it has been so good to me and i always give it enough sleep and put good food in and exercise it and then when i am doing something, it is so accomodating, supportive and helpful. i can not help but suspect it knows me and happily helps me through life. i am fully aware that this is not most people's experience. but it could be most people's experience.

the body has it's own path too and if a brain can understand the path the body tries to walk, decisions can be made to help the body along which then lead to benefits for the entire organism.

i guess i am trying to say the potential for harmony within the organism exists despite so few people stumbling upon it. i guess the obstacle in reaching this state is the corruption process that seeks to consume everyone. those who can see the corruption in others have an easier time dodging it.
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 No.324604

>>324600
>feces
if i were to open a business selling shit, i'd first rename myself to Ceecee and then i would call the business Ceecee's feces.

>come buy feces from different species at Ceecee's.

 No.324605

>>324557
>I wouldn't call being able to tell when someone farted 'knowing a lot about people'

that is irrelevant because if "knowing a lot about people" were to appear in front of you, you would not be able to recognize it anyways because it would not announce itself to you in human english.

the fart meant to illustrate to you that i can know that you fart whether you anounce it or not, thus being an example of how irrelevant your habit of anouncing really is. in a sense this is a continuation of your communication style: repeating what is obvious.

>>324558
>what a bunch of nonsense
no that's what you are like.

 No.324611

>>324605
I would call knowing someone's thoughts, feelings and life history knowing a lot about someone. Maybe you lack basic comprehension of English?
voluntarily sharing something is not the same as autistically announcing every little thing

 No.324612

>>324611
>I would call knowing someone's thoughts, feelings and life history knowing a lot about someone.

that's probably something you don't think is possible because your religion (normality) has no strong opinion about it. anyways i don't wanna talk to you anymore. i know all about normality so your words are just bloat to me.

 No.324617

>>324612
that's okay



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 No.323798[Reply]

Opioids could save many lives. Their only problem is how addictive they are, and the only solution to this is to make them available without a prescription. All the problems you see stemming from opioids and opiates are due to this very reason.


Rus ASL
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 No.324303

>>324299
Wanting people to be able to freely sign off on their own murder at any time for any reason… yuck!

 No.324333

>>323799
>they make you active and bring out your best self

i believe the same to be true about responsible cannabis use, nice to hear someone using drugs to an advantage amidst the chaos of mindless consumer sheeple who are used by their drugs to become idiot zombies.

to someone who exists in organzational structures who explicitly exist to live without responsibility, the difficult puzzle of using substances with an effect might be too much. the average consumer might be too unconscious to listen to the body, figgure out doses, intervals and brakes from the substance because determining those requires responsibility, agency and attention to oneself. guys who eat candy are not gonna be able to manage a mind-enhancing substance intelligently so i appreciate you and your attitude.

 No.324334

>rightoids love alcohol, nicotine, anti-depressants, anything that is promoted by Big corporations to keep you a docile slave. I will never have a job

>>323812

respect to you, please be healthy and outlive the idiots you are surrounded by efforlessly.

 No.324335

>>324294
>jews are trying to force suffering goyim into suicide by denying them normal analgesic medication that's been used by humans for thousands of years.

the cure to this is to look into naturopathic medicine, herbs, detoxification, responsible eating. i am into these self-healing related topics and around me (meaning in my bubble) all i see is people wake up to what they can do with the intelligent use of bonaticals. in my bubble i see people getting way smarter, i don't know much about outside of the bubble though, i see a lot of people drinking coca cola which of course remains a strong indicator of people in general not getting it.

i keep thinking now (after covid) is the time of peak medical idiocy and every somewhat intelligent person who has still a minor interest in understanding cause and effect will no longer listen to the eugenic evils of the medical establishment. but i could be wrong, my bubble could give me a wrong impression. young people drinking energy drinks legitimately makes me sad because it subscribes them to a life of being a patient, when they could subscribe to a life of health and happiness if they decided to merely pursue health and happiness. their suffering is needless and one decisions could completely alter the path of the conveyor belt they are standing on.

oh yeah compliments to the op for making "fix lives" as the topic, i appreciate someone taking the time to discuss something so important.

 No.324606

>>323798
I was hooked to Very high dose of tramadol for 8 months daily. I would be increasing 300mg a day to 800mg a day at the end. was taking very high dose of pregabalin daily as well because it synergized so well.
These are purchasable in my place without prescription and that is why I got them in such quantity.
I believe oxycodone can be even more addictive since if you take too much on first few dose of tramadol the SNRI effect could overweigh the opiate high and actually makes you anxious and angry.
I would try to stare at picture of things I love while nodding and listening to music and it was the best feeling ever. Despite recognizing it's unsafe I would still purchase tramadol again after I've reset my tolerance and save up enough money.
At least from the way people just dismiss tramadol as dirty useless drugs and oxycodone as the best thing ever, I can easily imagine myself redosing oxycodone multiple times on first high and destroying my tolerance.



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 No.322970[Reply]

How do you fellow thirdie NEET survive and cope? I am Neet in third world country, I really don't want to return to the call center I used to work from last year ;-; the town I live in went to hell too so virtually no local jobs either, I want to be a NEET all day every day but I am forced to work since I live in a third world country and NEETbucks don't exist here, I also can't afford nice things and hobbies so even NEETing is not really fun but a lesser evil compared to the cagie life to me, not to mention the wages are extremely bad, my former job paid less than 200 USDs a month and I had to work 6 days a week (most people in my country work 6 days a week).
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 No.324583

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>>324581
I understand, I don't know why things went so wrong, it feels like we were meant to be so much more than just bio-AI replacers but here we are.
This will probably sound like a satire, but with all honesty I wish you succeed and find something that is at least not too unbearable. Good luck anon

 No.324586

>>324583
good luck to you too in whatever post-soviet country youre in, i wish i could be positive, but to be honest we all know things will only get worse, thats what “life” is after all, just a big failure

 No.324589

>>324582
Universal basic income should be a human right, the very fact that you need a medical condition in order to receive money is ridicolous, they don't feed unemployed healthy people but give money to genetic trash so they can go on and spread their diseases.

 No.324591

Work would be much more tolerable if you're just given clear instructions and are left alone with earbuds playing music or a video playing in the background but no, normeis must always talk, talk, talk. Always the noise. Always the sudden plan change out of nowhere. No retreating to your own world. You are a slave and you belong to us.

 No.324602

>>324589
>genetic diseases
Care to elaborate?



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 No.322725[Reply]

i've seen a few wizards who don't seem healthy.

is too bad because being healthy is easy once you know what matters.
the practice of being healthy i have reduced to managing of habits:

you constantly manage your habits. you find out what they are by doing the opposite of being in autopilot. manual flight. then you imagine the long term consequences of each habit. then you decide if you want those, the development of a desired state. keep the desirable habits, reduce all those you don't want through constant attention on your habits.

as you do this you might stumble upon ways to improve upon the desirable habits. this is almost already doing the next thing, which is finding good new habits to practice and slowly wondering when you have time to do them.

it is up to you to be healthy, it is an option, you can make this happen if you so choose. health is one choice away.
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 No.324451

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>>322760
This dude is inspiring.
and yes, the dude in the picrel same.

 No.324487

>>324423
>Still an absolutely unhinged way to convey your message.

mouthpleasure man, they rather have mouthpleasure then feeling like a god.

 No.324490

>>324435
>You are not going to get health problems by just training normally.

i don't believe this to be true. you are not gonna have health problems if you have muscles because you live an active physical life and do gardening and farming but these laboratory muscles from the gym and the way people who go to the gym typically eat i believe to be a different beast.

>If anything getting big muscles is so hard even people who want and try to have them have trouble getting them.


maybe this is the body expressing his preference for being genuine, graceful and fully functioning over being a vanity machine that seeks to impress for disgraceful reasons of self-aggrandizement. i think the body wants you to be Bruce Lee and not Arnold.

 No.324511

I like to go out for a run about four times a week if it isn't raining out there. Sometimes, I can only run two or three times a week. It's better to run in the morning since after doing it you can see the whole day in front of you, it's like it expands

 No.324524

>>324511
>I like to go out for a run about four times a week if it isn't raining out there. Sometimes, I can only run two or three times a week.

that's amazing. currently i am not really running but doing 2 or more 30-60min walks per day but what you do i believe to be even better because when you go fora run you sweat more.

>It's better to run in the morning since after doing it you can see the whole day in front of you, it's like it expands


yeah i have noticed the same thing, when i exhaust myself a bit early in the day, i can make way better use of the day. i am in the process of slowly adjusting myself to getting up earlier to around 7am after being a nightowl for many years, i believe this helps too because the human body is somewhat of a plant and benefits from being exposed to natural sunlight. life at night is possible but i believe humans are meant to be up during the daylight to get sunshine on the skin.



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 No.324336[Reply]

i found a really cool video game i thought other wizards might enjoy too. i didn't put the thread in games because i believe this is one of those rare games that transcends the medium of video games to allow the player to participate in an experience you could not otherwise have. to me it represents the best aspects that fiction or fantasy can hope to offer someone. some people like to play video games doing something they would have little problem doing in real life to a less sensational extend: playing soldier, playing sports, being criminal, managing a business, etc. this game however is something you could not do in real life.

when you zoom all the way in this games looks like a city builder. you are a little village trying to survive the constant hardships of a dangerous world. you carefully choose which buildings to build and what technologies you research given the limited resources. you shuffle around people to make sure they have the job that currently helps the little village the most and don't waste time on jobs currently not important and you can destroy buildings you built for 100% of the resources you spend, meaning you spend the time carefully optimizing stuff. you learn stuff and improve stuff and when you notice you did a mistake, you can always correct it.
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 No.324450

>>324336
>>324337
>>324338
Looks like the Settlers or these similar games with some old facebook flash management city aesthetic games.
Looks nice bacause its look like it have inmersion.
Back in time i like a lot of facebook flash games, some are trash but are casual and good and still easy and enjoyable. the port to phones was a shit to a lot of these games.

 No.324494

>>324421
okay, that's alright

 No.324513

hello

 No.324517

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>>324450
>some old facebook flash management city aesthetic games

there were times when these games were made with no monetary ambitions just for the fun of it in flash. then advertisement came and it became all about the money.

 No.324522

>>324517
pay to win too, on facebook games



 No.322550[Reply]

So wizzies who are familiar with this stuff, is it worth the time and effort? From what I've read most of the darknet or darkweb or wtf is just dead sites, with occasional illegal things here and there. As someone who is just curious and want to pass the time, is it worth the risk of checking out? How do you even find stuff there? WHAT IS EVEN THERE? What are your experiences with it?
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 No.324458

I don't think there is much down there except the infamous illegal stuff. It's not really incorporated in the structure of the internet, imagine youtube, 4cuck and other mainstream sites hosting onion links and other darknet stuff alongside their main like they do with mobile by default, it would be privacy-heaven.

 No.324467

>>324458
>imagine youtube, 4cuck and other mainstream sites hosting onion links and other darknet stuff alongside their main like they do with mobile by default, it would be privacy-heaven.
problem with tor/darknet is there no way to moderate anything, not like you can ip ban anyone

 No.324484

>>324467
Being banned is a violation of our privacy and freedoms

 No.324485

>>324484
When you post on a website it's not your right to post there. It's a privilege. You're posting on another guy's bills.
And I also guess you're fine with websites being raided and spammed with CP?

 No.324510

>>324484
>privacy and freedoms
those are spook , as the other giy would say



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 No.323451[Reply]

What's your setup look like?

I'm interested in things better than Duckduckgo and Signal, almost normie tier advice. I'm not full schizo (yet) so I'm still exploring different setups
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 No.324156

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>>324154
>never use Tor but use the less developed and less secure alternative i2p

 No.324164

>>324156
What makes I2P less secure than Tor to you? Because it feels that way, or have you actually used it to make that assessment?

 No.324385

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>>324164
Not anon but I2P is not a good piece of software.
Pic is the mods from the most famous darknet forum.

 No.324386

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>>324285
And this.
Darknets are not good to run 24/7. They work, but you have to assume they can and WILL be exploited. You should always treat them with a 20 foot long pole. As in: only use them for actual shady stuff, and never from a network associated with you.
Using them because of some perceived social commentary you want to do even if you do perfectly normal stuff is stupid, no one cares and it's a NSA-made network that let the public use so they can keep traffic ambiguous anyway.

 No.324398

>>324152

>FSB on your phone

Always have been…



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 No.323548[Reply]

In short, I left my digital footprint in a rather bad website, though, thankfully, people forgot about me.

But the problem is, people know about the thing I love deeply and care about. This was because at the time I was a complete fucking dumbass and vented and on that shitty website almost every day but thankfully, they seemed to have forgotten about it too thankfully but….

I just hate every time I look up the name of what I care about, there is a chance of that shitty wiki article popping up that mentions me and that thing I care about.

I was a lolcow. I won't deny it and I wish my younger self was a lot smarter than being a fucking dumbass and venting on that shitty website almost every day. I just don't want my name or anything I care about to mention there and I don't want people spreading misformation about either me or the thing I care about.

I just want to be forgotten and never found and the thing I care about too be obscure and safe forever. This is all I ask.
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 No.324169

>>323548
Here's how you ought to try it.
You go to a library.
You make several profiles on social media under your name.
You post a lot of "everyday" life things - use random books in the library to make up random topics
Try quoting random fiction books, too.

The thing you may worry about is that wiki popping up on the 1st or 2nd Google page. By having random Instant Link Faced status Quo stuff posted on different sites, you may obfuscate that Foogle search result a little bit.


>>323629
I was in a situation opposite to OP's one.
I stupidily posted a very cringeworthy comment under my name once. Half a decade later, it turned out to be in the top-20 of the search results related to my name. Luckily, i was able to delete it manually, took me some days to remember the account password though.

 No.324170

What would you do if you saw a lolcow in public

 No.324171


 No.324172

>>324170
Nothing because I'm not a subhuman kiwifarmer

 No.324384

If it's a hobby website (imageboards, forums, matrix servers) you just mail the admin and ask for the data associated with your IP or account to be removed. You'd be surprised at how many admins actually reply and do this.
If it's a website under a corporation take a look at your existing privacy laws. If you're in the EU you can find some GDPR mail copypasta that you can send to the website data retention address to pressure them to immediately remove your data. I did this and almost every time they complied because they are required by law. The only company that didn't is wizards of the coast, probably because they are american and (mistakenly) think they have to apply american laws to european user data.



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