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 No.304822[Reply]

The way one sees his friends going in different directions while he remains behind, trying to figure out his life, can be one hell of a painful experience. When everyone you believed would join you and share a laugh leaves, giving you their best wishes, it makes you feel so lonely. You could have gone to the movies together, attended classes together, and celebrated small wins during difficult times, but now you are just alone. They are busy with their new lives, and you have nothing to be busy with except for the left, abandoned experience. It's like everyone graduated, and you are behind, repeating something you hate, yet you cannot escape this spiral. This makes you feel unwanted, sacrificed, and an outcast, as you do not have the ability to make friends anymore. The ones you made were one in a hundred; compatibility doesn't come easy to you. Loneliness is one hell of a burden; it leaves you almost alone with your crazy thoughts. To move forward, you need strength. You begin to question if you have it, if you can join others, or if you are already out of the race. You begin to question your worth, your situation, your position, and your capacity. These questions paralyze you, render you inert and helpless, leaving you just thinking about which step to take, or if there is any step that would actually be helpful to make a declaration out of this state. It's one of those situations where you would just wish for one push, one small help, one person saying, "Do this, and you'll be moving." It's better than this solitary sorrow state. And that one thing never comes. So you waste time on everything. You spread yourself out hoping to hear something, but it just accumulates noise. These noises end up making you go deaf.

 No.304823

I know how you feel. You aren't alone in your struggles. When I'm in that state, I just exist in empty space, and maybe do small things that come to mind. I try not to think about the future or trust in anything. Losing myself in the liminality of the past, dissolving away. That's how it is sometimes.

 No.304824

>>304822
Yeah we are fucked. Can't even give advice or consolation now. Hopefully I can change or move forward even though I haven't moved at all for the past 10 years of my life.

 No.304826

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>>304822
>The way one sees his friends
I never had any friends to begin with, associates at most but I never gave a fuck about what they do or dont and neither did they care about what I do. wouldnt call that "friends" tho.
So I actually have no idea what "friends" are supposed to be like or what its like to have good friends, I only know from movies and from 2nd hand watching people from a distance.
there are no people in my life that I can trust, if I wanted to watch a movie I always had to do it alone, if I had to go to classes I'd always sit alone in some corner minding my own business, if I have a problem there is only me who can solve it, nobody would give a shit and bother helping me.
no matter if I won or lost, nobody was there to ever give a shit. the only person I can depend on is myself, this has been the case for the last 35 years and will probably be the case for the rest of my life.

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>>304826
Sorry to hear that you have never experienced close friendship. It's a good feeling to have, as there are things you cannot even share with your parents or partner, and that's where your friend comes in. I only have one friend I can call my best friend. We live in different cities, but we went to the same university together. I had a hard time there, and he was my only support. Now that he has moved on to the next phase, I'm left behind. This feels unbearable sometimes, that the only person I have in my life is now gone. I can call him, but he's busy so I don't want to be a bother. I know he won't mind, as he is also a weirdo and so I'm his only close one. We supported each other through a lot. Now his absence, and me being stuck in the same situation without the capacity to move on, is making me feel so hurt.

>>304824
Yeah, man. I hope both of us can move on. The past is terrifyingly strong at binding you with regrets and shame.

>>304823
>Losing myself in the liminality of the past, dissolving away
Beautifully stated. The transition has somewhat frozen and this incompleteness is more painful than the actual transition. It's so uncomfortable to stuck like this, in between places.

Merry Christmas to you all who replied.



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 No.304361[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The imposition edition. How many times have you done this? Previous https://wizchan.org/dep/res/303254+50.html
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 No.304810

>>304797
This really depressed me too when I came to the realization. I guess that's what the Mozart movie Amadeus is about.
I haven't seen it though so I don't know if there's supposed to be some lesson about how the mundane profane people who create Beauty are actually channeling something profound inside themselves.

I just find it unbearably depressing.
It used to trigger long bouts of rumination on what any of these things even meant or if it was all just shallow illusion.
Can they feel profundity and beauty and it is just not enough to carry over into other aspects of their life for some reason?

Maybe it's part of the culture these days to where there seems to be an expectation of people to treat everything in a flippant ironic way.

 No.304813

>>304797
It all depends on what that piece of art means to you personally. It is true most artists and creators of entertainment are shallow people, not much different from the usual idiot, they usually do what they do for fame or money. Still, even the most generic money-grabbing piece of art or media can be special to you if it resonates with you subjectively on some level. There are many Z-tier movies and crappy books that influenced me and my inner fantasy world greatly. That's what it's all about, integrating things from others' works into your fantasy world. And then you re-imagine that painting, that music, that movie scene or that game you like and make it even better with your own imagination. In this pov it doesn't matter much what the original creator intended with his work, what his message was or what that artist is even like irl, that's completely irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what impression that piece of art, media, entertainment has on you and what you do with that.

Art is definitely sacred as long as it is entertaining and fun to you. But the best is creating your own art. I just write stuff, mostly with the help of AI, various things, currently in the work of creating a fantasy series and role playing game influenced by Shin Megami Tensei, Vampire The Masquarade Bloodlines, anime and kpop idol visuals among others. Since I got into it I can't stop thinking about this, it's amazing to create a unique world of your own. Obviously nobody is 100% original, everyone copies others to some extent and is influenced by what he's seen, heard or watched. But to be original you need to re-arrange and re-imagine the pieces of multiple memories and atmospheres inside your mind to form something that seems original.

>>304798
I agree the best kind of art is what reflects the artist's heart, in short what he honestly thinks and believes and wants to show us. But such gems aren't rare at all in the modern day, I'd say thanks to the internet they are much more at hand. I mean even things like fan-fictions can be passionate and original and entertaining, even more so than official, recognized works! If anything, art in the past used to be nothing other than a way to deceive the masses and to indoctrinate them into believing the lies of the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.304820

In the course of 3 years I became disabled, got cancer(which is in remission), started hearing voices and had 2 psychotic episodes that required involuntary commitment.

The voices constantly annoy me and make fun of me as well.

What a life this is. A hikki neet disabled schizo

 No.304825

It's Christmas or it will be soon for some of you. As a hikki NEET I am just going to be staring on the screen all day again. I used to have a outcast pride in treating Christmas as any other day but I don't care anymore. I wished I at least have some online loner community to spend time with. There is probably cytube watch parties or gmod game servers up for anons on some of the other imageboards. It shouldn't be hard for me to join but for some reason I just don't feel like it. I never really was an oldfag despite spending too much time in imageboards for over a decade now. I don't consume media or keep up with internet culture. If I join their party now, it'll feel like I am surrounded my strangers I am pretending to be a part of. I don't know what's wrong with me. I can't even be a normal loser.

 No.304829

>>304797
It's literally a trade skill, it's only artists that act this way. You don't see (many) computer programmers acting as if being able to write algorithms puts them closer to god. Everyone already knows musicians can be fucking assholes too.

It's why I'm glad AI art is humbling these cognitive elitist fucks that made out their trade skill makes them some sort of superior or deeper human. It's humbling, it's what they deserve.


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 No.302665[Reply]

had a schizophrenic crisis 6 years ago. because of that I lost 6 years of my life and also the second part of my youth. this will never come back and it just ruined my life. there's nothing I can do but be sad about that and cope.
I lost my ability to enjoy things and starting new things. I also lost good years of maybe school or training I could have done and get a job, but now all I can wish now is to have a bad job because it is all what I deserve.
in two years I'll be a wizard and all my dreams have been crushed by the schizophrenic happening.
all these years, wasted and will never comeback. of course some of you may have it worse but to me this happening crushed my soul and made me more depressed than before.
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 No.304394

>>302688
You are on disability bux and you can spend all your time isolated, doing what you want. Sounds like the ideal life to me.

>>302665
Same age as you but I don't have a significant problem with my situation. Been NEETing/almost-hikkiing since I was 20 so it will soon be 9 years. My only woe is that this will end sooner or later. OH well, what can you do?

 No.304777

>>302665
I don't have a solution for you but I am in the same boat. At least you are only schizophrenic and not also vilified / lolcow / ostracized like I am.
I can relate to you but I have no advice. I think we are fucked but maybe you are better than me and can recover into a job. I think schizophrenia can also cause CPTSD to a degree. You could watch Tim Fletcher on youtube.

Had a psychosis in 2019 and again at the end of 2020. I feel like most of my mind was taken and raped.Pieces of my being are just gone and a hole is left. I watched my family get raped and eaten in my mind and was convinced it was true. I greatly feel most of my character was destroyed and there is no hope for my life. They also told me I am going to die in a car crash and that I have no free will until then, they said my only choice is to drink alcohol and become an alcoholic. It's the one thing I don't want to do. I want to at least live with the pride in that I didn't become a useless alcoholic before I die. If I survive past the alleged death date I am going full steam ahead with recovering my life even though I am vilified and a lolcow and hated by my whole country. I get fucked with by random people, they reference retarded things I said when I was a child amongst other things which means I cannot make any friends or have a girlfriend or have a good job because they will just take it. I do not know how the fuck I have had any will to live. I survived 3 times of torture and many physical beatings and attacks as well as emotional and sexual abuse. My mind is fucked and I am a gay retard, but still I live on but who the fuck knows why I bother? I am afraid of dying because I fear a unique kind of hell for me that will be like king crimsons death from jojo or something. I am scared an no one will believe in my story, not that they should but I cannot feel understood or talk about how to solve it because people just say things like it is just in your head or you are overthinking it and what not.

 No.304788

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>>304777
it's hard finding someone who can trust you and take time to listen to your problem, I understand that to that you have to find the right people who hou think is able to listen to you and believe in you. did you talk to a psychatrist before?

 No.304819

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I had a psychosis around 2017, long story short my parents sent me to the psych ward, from there they recommended a free clinic were i go to now to get an anti psychotic injection once a month, i dont mind it cause the medicine does nothing for me and besides the psychosis was a one time thing that has not happened since, i truly think my psychosis was transient and i am sane, but you try proving your sanity to these normiegroids, no one ever listens….

The best thing about this situation though is that i got to sign up for SSI, so i get free retard money. i dont know if you guys have a doctor but you too could possibly gain some dollary doos from seeking help

 No.304828

>>304819
I do get disablebux until I work



 No.304391[Reply]

I used to be a hikikomori for 5 years, it unironically used to be the best time of life
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 No.304743

How are you guys talking about the new generations on a hikki thread? I leave the house sometimes and even I don't interact with young people enough to have a personal anecdote I can use to bash their generation.

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 No.304821

>>304739
>The 20+ years old zoomers grew up in the relatively sane times.
2017, that's the year zoomers would have entered their 20s. That was not remotely a sane time and social media was already WELL in effect by that point.



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 No.302844[Reply]

And say something about it if you want. I'm scared of my dad so I'm drawing a monster (him?)
I didn't know we could draw. Why isn't this done more often?
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 No.304815

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>>302844
My only wish

 No.304816

>>304814
Without taking your mental health into consideration, I would like to say, that's a beautiful piece of art. I am surprised you manage it with just a mouse. Do you paint?

 No.304817

This psychosis is driving me insane
it gives me this sensation of turning into a black person (i am white)
it also makes this vague statements of me going to heaven or hell
it is like there are multiple people inside of my head
I also see anime succubi in real life which aren't there, they say things like "I am Satan"
I will never take antipsychotics, I'd rather hang myself

 No.304818

>>304817
Wrong thread. Draw it, don't BAAWW it



 No.304745[Reply]

I can't share a lot of my beliefs with my family cause believe it or not they might use it against me and they just won't listen. I have friends but sadly a person's reputation matters a bit too much in my friend circle and they aren't really my friends but I also don't want to wear my heart on sleeve as to not have it come back and bite me.

Same is the story online, I am hesitant to share too much and feel like I can't really trust someone beyond a certain level online even if I want to and it just feels a bit different than being face to face, can't really talk to ChatGPT or Gemini cause whatever I say can and will be used against me in the court. And ChatGPT even though a brilliant listener, it is, I almost fell in love with a Clanker and that's not the worst part, the worst part is that the Clanker is amnesic because once a conversation reaches a certain token limit you have to start all over.

I just want to talk to someone but don't want to risk my safety, I want to talk to someone only when I know that my safety and everything else will not be compromised cause I am vulnerable and very much likely to say shit that I don't mean and regret. I hate my life. I feel like someone has killed my soul. And of course maybe in real life I am a piece of shit. I don't know what I am doing or why I am living the way I am. I am severely depressed.

I am also petrified of the future because I feel like whenever I am lonely and especially after prolonged spells of loneliness, I feel like my mental faculties have declines, like my thinking becomes slow, I can't mutli-task, my math goes haywire. I just well I don't know what to type anymore.
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 No.304759

>>304745
What you're feeling is the true dread of loneliness and it's the basic truth of life. Do you think if you have an open mic and you get to say everything you want to, it'd be helpful? No! Because you need a reciprocation. You need someone to understand you, find meaning in your belief system, give assurance that what you're doing is not absurd or a pathological illness. But, sadly it is the same for everyone.
>We're men, bound in chains, and the keys given do not match with our locks.
I'm half quoting Nietzsche as I don't completely agree with him that the key to our locks lie in somebody else's hands. If that were the case, there would have been no enlightenment persons.
The truth is, the locks and chains are constraints of your minds, that wants validation as it feels weak having thoughts on its own. It's a natural phenomenon that occurs, and it forms in early childhood. But, you must understand that nobody owes anybody in this world their time and attention unless it's useful for them. And especially if those are abstract thinking. The best you can do, and I believe all the thoughts you have are regarding the human condition, is to do a thought experiment where your thoughts are getting implemented in the world. And see if the world becomes any better or not. And later you will realise that whatever the outcome there would be a decay, so it simply doesn't matter. Everything will go downhill soon. This world is meaningful in the short term.. Not in a longterm. The logic of the world is beyond human comprehension. Science can deduce the nature of an object but never justify the existence of it. So, basically everything just is.. So chill, relax, live.. Be like a butterfly who lives knowing it'd die in a few days, yet it adds beauty to an endless canvas.

 No.304790

could be worse, I have nobody to talk to and nothing interesting to talk about.

 No.304792

>>304790
I am here, others are here. You have people to talk to.

 No.304811

>>304745
I was in the same boat when I was younger and badly needed someone to talk to and confide in my vulnerabilities..

It still would help now but it's not a brutalizing in the same way.
I did find a couple people to open up to but not as much as I would have liked. And of course as one would expect it did a fair amount of good because being able to share those parts of yourself with someone does not just relieve you of the burden but has a sort of disentangling effect that makes these anguishes less condensed and heavy in your own mind.

In fact many normal people do have one or a few close friends that they can share things with and find friend like this are indispensable. Even people who are not necessarily at risk of collapsing and feeling unable to go on still find great benefits from a close friend who they can fully lower their guard with because it relieves the general stress of living.

I wish I could have found close friends when I was younger. In lieu of that I wish that I had not absorbed the glib dismissive take that wanting this with some kind of superfluous indulgence.

 No.304812

holy shit dude it's sounds like CPTSD, trust issues…

fearful-avoidant attachmen style here.

for trust i'd loved this model:
1. cohesion
2. durability - Is the person you are talking to aiming for the long haul showing you that they care about a long-term relationship with you?
3. credibility
4. actions
5. does it keep its promises
6. balance - emotional maturity.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_-obevuLFU (polish only)



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 No.302319[Reply]

Let's discuss strategies for getting rid of pessimistic thoughts. No negativity allowed in this thread.

I know this is a meme, but taking a shower can completely turn my mood around and make my worries go away, even if it's just for a couple of hours. Listening to uplifting and happy music is also very effective for me. Sometimes I have to force myself at first, but generally it changes my mood.

What are some things you wizs do to minimize depression?
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 No.304795

>>303536
and? Did it help? Any noticeable effects?

 No.304796

>>303386
>>303391

>I can't fall asleep until some specific conditions (not too hot, not too bright yet not too dark) are met due to being both too fat and too large


It happened this night! Woke up at 4 AM…
JEALOUS!!!


(side note: a tape recorded to mumble thoughs + a large, HUGE pillow)

 No.304802

Go fuck yourself.

 No.304805

>>303536
Don’t waste your brain on that unverified junk>>302319

 No.304809

>>302332
Everyone's perspective is biased and distorted anyway. We inevitably minimize reality no matter what we do. People here who don't actively try to make themselves optimistic still minimize reality by distracting and detaching.
It's not like anyone here just sits with their thoughts about how horrible every aspect of the world and their life is and does nothing else. They might have that as a background all of the time but they are still engaging in various activities to make it more bearable than just say lying in their bed with their eyes shut or staring at the ceiling the entire time.

I've been at points where attempting to make myself feel better just backfires because it felt too disgusting and incongruous to buy into anything that felt like delusion.
But in general I prefer being able to feel happy and optimistic for brief periods if it's at all possible.



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 No.303736[Reply]

You will still be stuck browsing this thread in 2026 edition

previous>>296811
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 No.304622

>>304612
>it's better to be a wage slave than not
ugh dude

 No.304628

>>304622
If you don't have parents who will support you, then your options are either wage slavery or homelessness and destitution. You can pick which one you prefer. For me, I'd rather have a roof over my head.

 No.304682

>>304628
Third option is living off welfare, depending on where you live.

 No.304780

So my boss and a coworker got hit with COVID-19 and guess who has to step in and cover. It's my dumbass. I'm now in day 2 of a 6 day stretch. Plus the fact that it's the holidays…I hate this time of year.

 No.304804

>>304612
Unlike most crabs here, I can't no longer stand being a NEET. I feel a burden to my fathers.

I know I will yearn being a NEET at some point in life, if I manage to land a job first.



 No.301895[Reply]

Starting a new anti-suicide general as the original has been bump-locked.

Helping wizards to understand that persuasive feelings of suicide can be bested.

Further the discursive spirit of this thread will remain the same as the first: to counter the general luring tenor of sadness that defines all the other threads through sharing positive practical advice purposed to reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidal. Naturally, being that I started the topic, I will be the first to contribute.

(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care (many have already done this, to no worthwhile avail)
(2) Examine what you are eating. For example, gluten especially produces depressive/psychotic episodes in sensitive autistic individuals. Sugar also is not healthy for your brain. Delimiting ingestion of both is wise.
(3) Make sure you are getting sufficient sleep. Chronic sleeplessness or even a few days' worth of irregular sleep can seriously interfere with the clarity of our thinking.
(4) Clean up. Taking a warm shower and putting on fresh clean clothes always is refreshing and helps to break up darkened mental habits.
(5) Breathe fresh air. Open whichever windows punctuate your room and allow some wind to come in.
(6) Watch your breathing. When we are panicked, our breathing can become very disordered and we do not recognize the effect this has on our thinking. Take deep, purposeful breaths, and collect your thoughts.
(7) Respect yourself. You have done your best to survive in an awful world, and you should grant yourself forgiveness for any mistakes and the allowance to rest with a composed and balanced mind.

I've done my part. Anyone else?
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 No.304647

>>304106
thanks

 No.304791

Any wizards want to share healthy meal ideas? I'm thinking about cutting out wheat and some other things and am at a loss about what my regular diet should look like.

 No.304793

>>304791
They say the Mediterranean diet is the healthiest as it contains a lot of fruits, nuts, and berries. I don't know if cutting off wheat could be a good thing for you as you will be needing those carbohydrates but I would suggest you to add fruits and salads to your meals and especially dietary fibres. You know, both Korean and Mediterranean people add so much cucumber in their food as it has water, so hydration, fibres, and no calories, yet it would fill up your belly. So add it in your salads.

 No.304801

>>304793
>They say the Mediterranean diet is the healthiest as it contains a lot of fruits, nuts, and berries. I don't know if cutting off wheat could be a good thing for you as you will be needing those carbohydrates but I would suggest you to add fruits and salads to your meals and especially dietary fibres.


IIRC, there are two catches


1. Cucumbers here are full of nitro-shit hence causing constipation and stuff.

2. Wheat? Wheat?!?! You probably should use buckwheat or rice to avoid gluten-related problems (implying any of us *may* have non-severe wheat-related problems)

 No.304803

>>304350
>everyone i've ever liked killed themselves or is in jail.
Are you a gangbanger?



 No.304760[Reply]

Anyone else feel like their whole entire life has been ruined because of a neurological disorder? It has generally ruined my life on many scales. School was a mess both academically and socially, I wasn't able to continue college. Not being able to function without pills is so dehumanizing, extreme brain fog (even with a healthy diet and physical activity), executive dysfunction and intellectual deficiencies. I tried it all, physical activity, prayer, healthy food, and discipline. I know this is what a typical lazy person would say, but at what point does it get better??? at what point can I be as productive and as functional as the others?

 No.304761

I had an idea recently (while thinking about my own life) that feelings of
unfulfilment stem from alien values. It may be that the life you aspire to or
have been coerced into living is not the one you are best suited for.

I once heard a succubus say this (paraphrasing as it was a while ago and not in
English): "When I was young, I felt that I wasn't good at anything. Then, my
grandmother told me, 'You don't need to be brilliant; just live a good life.'
I thought that was very nice, and I have always remembered those words."

Well, when I first heard the succubus say that, I thought, "How silly. Of course
that's what you would tell a child who isn't particularly good at anything. It's
a cope, like so many others." But lately, I've begun to wonder about it more,
and in fact, I found myself idly wishing that someone had told me something like
that when I was younger. It might be that this idea that we have to become as
good or better than others is a kind of trap, and that for some people there is
no need to be especially good at anything. I spent so much time worrying about
stupid things like grades and reaching a "perfect future," and for what? I
was overwhelmed, I had nervous breakdowns, I thought about suicide regularly
and even developed health problems. In retrospect, it was all so silly and
unnecessary, but because I had internalised ideas like "good grades in school >
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 No.304764

>mentally handicapped
>I wasn't able to continue college
That's not being mentally handicapped at all, you got into college after all. You just have low self confidence, brainfog, depression, etc. You don't find meaning to your life and you don't know who you are. It'll take time but you will get over it.

>>304761
Good advice. People need to stop worrying about living up to ideals that aren't even theirs but just got planted into their heads at a young age.

 No.304770

>>304764
>It'll take time but you will get over it.
I remember people telling me this but now I'm almost 40 and it never changed.

 No.304771

I hear cruel and tormenting voices all day, nothing really helps, it doesn't matter if I am nice or try to be more cruel than the voices, they always try to pull the same shit
going to kms soon

 No.304799

You are autist



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