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 No.306545[Reply]

I am not even that horny, a lot of the days I force my self to do it while not even being in the mood for it, it's just the most effective way for me to cope, masturbation is free, gives you instant pleasure and can burn for you many hours at the time, there are times when i find my self touching myself just so I can use it as a way to distract my self for my anxieties and negative thought loops, as soon as i start touching myself all my anxiety and negative emotions start to dissolve as much as i hate and it hate how much i overdo it, i can't deny it makes getting through my days easier when i can just touch my self for many hours instead of just sitting there being miserable feeling hollow bored to tears and empty or anxious and overthinking at worse, my point here is that I believe the addiction for me is a mere sympotom, something I use to escape my negative feelings and the emptiness of my daily life, thanks for reading my blogpost
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 No.306805

>>306804
Yeah same.
Though I reckon I was already broken to begin with due to child abuse or maybe its the autism.
I recall already jerking my dick as a brat before I could even cum or get an erection in absurd ways like using coke bottles suction and shit like that during bath and much else…

>disgusting taboo kinks

To me it was extreme violence / guro stuff that was the first "slip". The recent AI gen (not lifelike/real) lolicon stuff on sankaku and other boorus was what broke me in a sense that I started being disgusted with myself.

I'll be real and say that the worst part of it all after all this agonizing about it, I had to come to terms with the fact that I have no intention of really quitting.
I would have otherwise no?
I don't want to say I view myself as a monster, but it's pretty fucking close.
Never really thought about 3DPD in any sense ever so at least that is a saving grace. Find real succubi rather disgusting too…
I hate that this topic is even such a large part of "me" as well that it needs so much contemplation.
For a normal person jerking off and pornographic material really isn't more than a moments thought.

 No.306806

>>306804
this happened to me, started gooning at around 10 years old and quickly grew out of it and started watching hentai, then later on trans porn and rape reenactment then i discovered telegram and started consuming zoo stuff, then a couple paraphilias i rather not mention then the kid stuff and hurt core and many other things. i really got desensitized to seeing a naked succubus, its like nothing to me, its so boring and bland.

 No.306807

>>306806
Try audio porn.
Many nice voiceworks out there to enjoy even if you don't know japanese.
There are decent english ones I think as well. ASMR types.
Kept listening to these as background noise so now I'm desensitized to that too a bit.

 No.306879

>>306557
shut up read the rules nigger

 No.306880

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Porn is terrible but without it I have no idea how to cope with the stress in my life, it's so pathetic when porn is your only cope and escapism.



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 No.306585[Reply]

I am not in a position to move out and I always have to listen to complaints about everything I do
Its affecting my happiness quite a bit, its a good day when I dont have to interact with anyone for a day
As if I dont know im a failure
The complaining never stops
I was a Neet I got cried to alot for that, now im a student and I still get talks about finding a part time job the same way, despite me getting money
Its so tiresome
I once worked full time for over a year, it was such a bad time to me, I dont have the energy like normies do
The worst part about it all is my mom telling me I should move out if I dont like it
I want to move out very badly, but how can I when the few hundred I get a month is barely enough to live?
Even with a part time job it would not be enough
I dont see the situation changing anytime soon

 No.306600

they complain because it works. they successfully got you to wageslave and unislave. some more complaining and they will get you to marry some succubus and shit out some grandchildren.

the trick is to actually just stop doing anything and endure their bullshit for a while until they realize it's not working and they leave you alone. become such a giant loser that they completely give up on you and they're ashamed to even talk about you to family (that's how you get out of social gatherings as well).

 No.306621

I had awful parents, they "complained" about everything and when I gave in and tried to adapt myself to them they would complain more, gaslight, change their story etc. Eventually I realised their goal was simply to torment and I broke off all contact. You might consider they are'nt being serious and just want to bully you, I've also heard of other people having similar parents to often calling them narcissists.

 No.306811

>>306621
thats the truth, there's always a new dragon to chase. I was NEET after highschool. got nagged into studying which gave me 1 week of peace, then nagged to finding a job which i couldn't even find for over a year which was horrible times. anyway once i get a job its again peace for another week. then it's when am i doing more hours and/or getting promoted.

Majorly insane I hate it so much. I've since anchored myself down in my routine of over 10 years now. I work 4 days, dont go out, dont do a lot of things and the nagging has finally stoped aside from once every 6 months about how i should really try get married LOL.

stupid parents should have had 3 or 4 kids. you can't play 1 game of poker and get mad you didn't win, play a few more then call it a night/life if it all failed.

 No.306849

>>306811
I feel like some parents don't view you as your own person, more like a toy or a doll they own. Some people also simply live to torment others. If I had known my life had turned out this way, I rather wished I had never come into existence in the first place.

 No.306878

>>306849
You're definitely subject to deception and not being given the whole story as a spirit convinced to incarnate here in the first place. This shitty realm just needs to be quarantined, a big sign put by the entry point, because only hell-spawn and the extremely lucky can enjoy it here long-term.
My parents are retarded normalcattle with very high functional IQ, unable to understand their comfortable lives were a product of a very specific time and conditions, and too retarded to do anything but try and corral me into being and thinking like them. I was developing stress way back in middle school, thinking about the pointlessness of wageslaving, and they just berated me, like, 'fuck you little philosopher guy, how dare you question the world I forced you into' – people like this will always deny realities they don't like, instead of using it as a basis for preventing more problems in the future. Then they're surprised things get worse when the foundations for anything are based on wishful thinking and delusions.
This life is hard enough as it is, we shouldn't have had to be given the shitty "guidance" of such people from a young age, inevitably floundering in early adulthood, then just becoming old and experiencing aging without even having a real adulthood first.



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 No.306157[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
ice cold edition
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 No.306850

Approaching 35 now, it will be nearly 20 years since I started trying to make my life tolerable and some kind of progress away from the suicidal depression that was already setting in at 16.

Nothing has really worked and all the progress hasn’t really changed anything. Medication made the biggest change. Tried everything else, every kind of philosophy, different theories of psychology, spirituality and religion. Nobody gives a fuck when you’ve done things and got nothing from them, in fact they fucking hate you because you don’t even offer an alternative story just a negation.

Existence is still awful and I wouldn’t have regretted killing myself at 16 like I nearly did. I live out of an obligation to family but fuck life has been a tedious grind of finding out the world others live in doesn’t apply to me.

There’s nothing to say.

 No.306851

>>306848
i mentally equal tao to christianity.

 No.306852

>>306850
i learned that philosophy and religion are means to an end, not really ways to live in and of themselves and if you try to use them as such you'll get sorry results. nothing can really save you after you've developed an unhealthy mindset since childhood. i sometimes ruminate on some of my weird traits as a child and wonder why they didn't mercy drown me in a bathtub.

 No.306869

>>306848
Appreciate it. I have the Tao Te Ching and tried reading through it a few times but apart from a few verses I am mostly at a loss what it means or what I'm supposed to do with it. I am also interested in Taoism as I find some of its attitudes towards life peaceful. I have been trying to get into Chen Tai Chi through YouTube videos and it's been … perhaps not fun exactly but an experience. Trying to focus on your breathing and moves made me lose track of time, perhaps akin to something like a flow state but not quite there yet. I wish to be able to move with the grace and focus of those practitioners.

 No.306877

Many people also refuse to acknowledge a decent guy can simply fail despite putting in the effort for years, and then decide the rollercoaster of pointless suffering is not worth being on. You can simply piss off normalcattle by not pretending the ride is really cool, beautiful and fun anymore. "Bright new dawn right around the corner" hope-fags have too shallow an understanding of this world, and youth is something that only is allowed to exist in a certain window of time here; they give no real solutions, just insist you don't stop your own suffering when you're going to die anyways.


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 No.306449[Reply]

What is the average wizard's relationship with religion like? No religious person has ever been able to give me a good argument for why God, if he is out there, is not the most maximally evil being in the universe simply by the virtue of creating suffering when he could have chosen not to. Saying "suffering builds character" and derivatives of is just a manifestation of their stockholm syndrome for this vile entity

>I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I YHWH do all these things - Isaiah 45:7
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 No.306866

>>306865
>My grandpa often told me that up to 1940s, if the priest did not like you, you could be sent to mental asylums forever. At least secularism abolished institutionalization.

The 1950s were the golden age of lobotomies, driven by a secular "trust the science bro" mentality where you were considered a backwards neanderthal for speaking out against it. And its consistently been Christians speaking out against psychiatry, both back then and today.

The State Atheist nations of the Eastern Bloc actually had institutionalized abuse of psychiatry, and you were carted off to a psyche ward and given meds to the point you couldn't function if you dared speak out against Communism. You were said to have "delusions of reform". I doubt the validity of what your Grandpa says because we've had religious pluralism in the west since the 19th century and the Christian churches have been on the defensive for a very long time.

>The orange ape isn't enough right.


The Orange retard is exactly my point. People want religion and community, even if the taste of secular hedonism is delicious, they'll find themselves turning to shit like Qanon. Turning politics into a religion, like I said. I prefer the long established and codified traditions, with guardrails and well worked dogma to the new charismatic charlatans promising to overthrow the system.

Back in the 1990s you were considered to be a weirdo for even talking or caring about politics socially. It's not a coincidence politics obsession in our culture has coincided with the decline of organized religion.

 No.306867

>>306844
>angst criticism
christianity affirms that evil cannot exist because god forgave everyone. so if there's no evil why evil things happen? oh no no it's just angst criticism
>and they were just hedonistic degenerates
you're massively delusional and probably really severely mentally ill if you think 'hedonistic degenerates' are anyhow in opposition to church.
>I just don't think religion is that bad
and somebody thinks nazis weren't that bad either.
>It gives a sense of community, it gives social support, it gives routine, and importantly, it holds people to some standards
so basically indistinguishable from wageslavery
>shame is part of what keeps society healthy.
why not guilt, though? why not fear? why shame, specifically?
>And despite the smugness of atheists, Christians who actually do regularly go to church are happier, better educated and healthier.
there's going to be a proof?
>on a societal level it's a useful lubricant
in which way, exactly?
>People network through church, marry through church, have support networks through church, have a routine through church
they do so through wageslavery too. oh no actually if you look at it, they do so through basically any life circumstance. some people even do so through drinking pubs.
>Even just going to cracker barrel or whatever with the congregation after a Sunday sermon is healthy.
going to a gym with your chad friends is healthy too.
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>>306866
The first lobotomy was conducted in the land of the free (united states) and performed by a christian methodist, it is true that secularism did not automatically abolished psychiatric institutions but at least pushed for more civil rights.
Russia never had a chance at this because their society is backwards of 200 years on the timeline.

 No.306873

>>306836
Obviously I don't agree with this. That is precisely what it claims. I don't see how a world without evil is possible if you grant humans personal agency and basic freedom. There is something more fundamentally wrong with this argument anyway, you implicitly claim to know what the greatest good is. According to your argument something without evil, the closest thing in real life is the animal kingdom, which are dumb creatures barely aware of their existence. I don't want to be a dumb animal. You would then probably change the goalposts to include all suffering which leaves us only with very simple organisms like molds, invertebrates, parasites, worms and such which barely have consciousness.
While I don't like evil, I like basic freedom and don't see any contradiction with God being good.

 No.306876

>>306873
>I don't want to be a dumb animal
tough luck



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 No.306437[Reply]

Does anyone else voluntarily exile themselves from society?

I'm tired of socializing, drama, human interests, social demands, social everything.

I wish I was a machine instead of a talking ape. I actually hate being an animal.
I don't even hate people, I just don't want to be in any contact with them. I even hate my own body for forcing me to eat and wash in order to not completely dysfunction.
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 No.306597

>>306584
not really.

 No.306660


>>306584
true as fuck

 No.306747

>>306437
I want but my environment doesn't let me do it. I mean, I have to get known by people to gave me job on my uni so… Until I get a job, I have to tolerate the gossip and the human idiocy for a good time.

 No.306874

yeah is way better not to be part of society, if you got a real good look at what people are like, you'd want to be as far away from them and their system of violence and slavery as possible.

in order to enjoy this society you have to be a cuck and that is what the education system is for. making you a cuck. untrain your sense of selfpreservation, untrain your selfrespect, untrain your opposition to injustice. for billionaires to get richer, you need get get poorer, sicker and sadder.

the one thing you can do is refuse to let go of cause-and-effect.

 No.306875

>>306437
Just threw away all the stuff I bought off a shelf and filled a couple contractor bags with it. Long story short is I was raised by a narcissist and an alcoholic all my life and am not fit for whatever the act of interacting with other humans is these days so its time to pack a bag and head for the mountains.

I hate that I have so much hate and distrust for other humans but most of my interactions with them show me most of them are greedy self centered mattress climbers that have dog brain.

I think about how much happiness I'd gain if I was completely alone in this world so I wouldn't have to mask around npcs just to feel normal. I feel happy in the woods because every animal out there is honest in every action they make.

Humans do the complete opposite and its the reason Im not saying a word to anyone. I've almost got everything cleaned up and by the time they start asking about me (if they even do ask about me) ill be in the next state minding my own business.



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 No.305228[Reply]

I think age 31-32 was the point where I realized I'm too autistic and weird to ever have 'normal' things in life.

I will die either institutionalized or in some shitty rental with nothing to my name. Nothing that I dreamed about will ever become true.
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 No.305290

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I wonder what are those normal things in life OP mentions. Because things like owning a home and the such are becoming more and more scarcer.

 No.305307

Three days ago was my birthday. I realized it when my mom hugged me and said, “HB, honey!” After that, I started thinking more — and I ended up cursing my own existence.

It feels impossible for me to live the life I wanted. I can’t isolate myself to read books or study music, math, and philosophy. I don’t even know if I would call that life a dream — maybe it is one. It feels so fucking annoying and utopian when I stop everything to think about it.

I think I’ll die in some stupid loneliness I once believed in. I stopped cutting myself, but I no longer take my meds for depression, schizoid personality disorder, and misanthropy.

Like another anon said, “We’re not born to be happy.” If that’s true, maybe all I can do is sit down and watch my whole life turn to dust in the wind.

Fuck.

 No.306870

>>305228
You just need dopamine. Take amisul pride at 200mg or less. Future is pointless. Dopamine makes present moment good. When present moment is good future doesn’t matter

 No.306871

no, not anymore. my final cope that carried me over the years was this notion that i could just change myself, figure out how i actually tick and reverse engineer myself into a normal human being. it never really worked out, but there was always this hope that i could stumble on it one day and make everything make sense, like a persistent puzzle. what broke me was realizing that i never had a chance in the first place, that biologically i was predetermined to end up where i am, regardless of my personality or psychology. there was nothing to change, i AM my body and circumstances, my mind is just a mirroring of that. there was no other way i could've turned out. people treat you based on what they see, how you make them feel, and i consistently brought out indifference or revulsion in others. as i grew into my final genetic form, people started openly being hostile to me in public and i was mocked before i could open my mouth. this fantasy that i could just change my feelings and fix everything no longer fit my lived experience. the world was inherently against me and there was nothing realistically i could do to change it. there was also nothing worth living for, as idealistic notions of "love" and "friendship" increasingly seemed to me like banal biological processes, people like you because you help them release the feel good chemicals. the most evil criminals had tons of friends and lovers because they had the right body shape, despite being scum that never had a metacognitive thought in their life, they enjoyed life, people went out of their way to help them because "there was something to them".

i'm all out of copes and suicide really seems to me like the only meaningful choice i could make. either suffer and endure for another 30-40 years until my disgusting body gives out, or i end it when it makes sense to end it. the world is evil and i cannot adapt to it because i'm weak. why shouldn't i just give up and roll the dice again?

 No.306872

>>306871
You hit the nail on its' head. We are predeterministic animals just like all other mammals or apes in nature.

Would you tell a deformed or weak ape if they just work enough on their personality they will get lots of females and sit in hot springs all day instead of the apes who happened to be born with good genetics?

No.

Would you tell a lion born with down syndrome he is going to overthrow the strongest lion in his territory if he is just determined enough?

We need to stop this self-improvement bullshit right here. The vast, vast majority of neurodivergent wizards will never mask to the point normies will accept it.



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 No.306675[Reply]

Lookism has become a public, popular topic lately on the internet and I believe that it affects wizards in very tangible ways.
Being a genetic dead end ugly loser myself I suffer for it even as a now "middle aged" man.
One would think such things are left behind in high school or something, but no.

You queue up for a service, government office for some paperwork, a cash register at a store, post office or hell even medical services.
You can tell the people before you were treated kindly. At worst processed in a neutral way.
Some even receive a cheerful response and the help they need, people go above and beyond for some.
Then it's your turn at the line.

A look of disdain follows immediately. Quiet. No "what can I help do for you" "what can I help you with" "what is the purpose of your visit".
Silence. Faces contort…
Sometimes a sigh, sometimes some snide remark. Clear hostility.

A shift in demeanor so noticeable, so obvious, so visceral… (yet to them likely natural) that even the thickest of autism wont help you stay oblivious to it.
You get mistreated, worse service, denied service you paid for, medical gaslighting, humiliation over and over again.
Networking is impossible for you, who by your mere acquaintance devalue their status.. and without connections, being treated like this, only having the "official route" as an option you soon realize you might not be able to get anything done.

After much pushing, repeated humiliations and humbling yourself, matching your demeanor to that expected of "your ilk" some old lady at the register might take pity and process your request, prescribe your medication, refer you to a proper doctor.
Sometimes the stars do align like that and you make a step towards a slightly less miserable state of being.

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 No.306787

>>306786
Okay, I'm sold. Can you tell me more about how you ysed CBT to your benefit?
I tried it myself with a workbook, even posted about it here, but it wasn't all that much successful for me since I hit roadblocks even starting with BA.
I like the concept of BA and here where the cognitive part rears its head.
Basically,
>I should take a shower for mastery points
>Wait, why should I take a shower, I'm disgusting one way or another
Basically, my rumination prevents me from starting acting. I don't know what to do first: behavioural or cognitive changes.
That's where a therapist should be helpful, but as I've mentioned…
>If that's what therapy is in USA then no fucking wonder shit's gone to shit.
That's what it basically is in my country, but I'm not from the US. It's a bunch of succubi having a mid life crisis and jumping into therapy to earn a quick buck. Most of them just complete a basic course on some BS and just provide the venting type of therapy. I know because I tried eight times, from trainees to supposedly the best there is. Ironically, only that green trainee yielded some results, and yes, we did CBT. But I don't want to contact her again for various reasons.
>If the practice of psychological intervention, lifestyle management, *unfucking fucked up perspectives* is held in contempt and billed as a pacifier, then sure - fuck that. That's not what i'm talking about.
Exactly! But those are hard to come by, isn't it?
Anyway, going back to my question. What did you do? Have you did CBT with ChatGPT or a real therapist? I don't have the means to try a real therapist though. I guess even budgeting to find one would be bad for my mental, since funneling all my money into a therapist would make me unhappy since I will end up broke in the process. And no, getting a free therapist is not an option where I'm from. Or, well, it's an option only for veterans and other certain groups of people.

 No.306788

Holy derailed…

 No.306789

>>306787
>>Okay, I'm sold. Can you tell me more about how you ysed CBT to your benefit?

I went in thinking "oh this is what it's like on TV, I just have to talk about my feelings" and what I *got* was a 20 page work book with a checklist of cause & effect and an event tracker diary to determine what went wrong, when and why. First session was essentially the therapist telling me the scope of the project, the type of interventions that they could provide or refer and the explicit end goal.

First step was identifying the root cause of the Catastrophising habit I had, which is "Things are shit, I am shit, anything I do is shit, why try" which, largely was because I had lived in abnormal (statistically significantly so) adverse situations. The therapist back then did a basic assessment of what I did, why I responded to specific problems the way I did, and we eventually built up a literal checklist and decision tree that I still refer to from time to time that stops the habitual fear/endure and shut down response into "Think calmly, assess using the tools you have developed, respond accordingly". That took about 10 weeks of conscious practice to get to that point, but it got me out of bed and into an upper quartile wagie lifestyle which I know for sure i'd never even attempt, never mind achieve in my old configuration.

>>Basically, my rumination prevents me from starting acting. I don't know what to do first: behavioural or cognitive changes.


Of all things it was the Pickle Rick therapist in Rick and Morty that gave me an answer that's stuck for years:

"I have no doubt that you would be bored senseless by therapy, the same way I'm bored when I brush my teeth and wipe my ass. Because the thing about repairing, maintaining, and cleaning is it's not an adventure. There's no way to do it so wrong you might die. It's just work. And the bottom line is, some people are okay going to work, and some people well, some people would rather die."

So the question I suggest _you_ answer is, do you hate *maintenance*, or do you actually and genuinely hate *work*.

If it's the later, I'd expect 2:1 odds that it's because outside context problems have demonstrated to you - either rationally or subconsciously - that the fruits of your work can be taken Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.306796

i *am* handsome! ;_;

 No.306839

>>306713
>I would be grateful if you would elaborate with something tangible. I can't engage with something this vague.

i doubt engagements are what will make you decide to create a way more detailled map of the place you are at but that is the price you have to pay to know what is really going on.

>"Didn't try hard enough kid." Is all I ready.


i guess you could look at it that way if you insist but i encourage you not to insist, there is a certain inherent inequality when communication occurs at different levels of knowledge and experience. what do you want me to say, want me to say "your highness" to you or "sensei"? i don't call you kid i would prefer more politically hurtful insults but the not having tried hard enough is something i would like to emphasize because there is a degree of hardness that you can reach that would make that statement valid and since you were not that hard, you are in the situation you are in. hardness is the way out. talking about it is the way in.

>I didn't or at least didn't mean to make a statement of "oh its all your looks, blame all your failures on it". If that is what you got from the post then you either misunderstood or I made a critical error in communication.


'looks' as well as 'failures' are everything when you are close to them though in another way those are both smaller day-to-day downstream effects from more overarching concepts i encourage you to keep an eye out for. these are like details or afterthoughts that you insist on giving way too much of your finite attention when there are things much more deserving of your most precious resource.

>The point was to understand and share from experience of aspects of ones life where one would feel they got lesser results or were shut off from opportunities simply for their looks.


besides lack of looks, can you think of other disadvantages a person might suffer from being shut off from opportunities? i also experience being shut off from opportunities but it is for reasons i would bet you could never guess because it is too rare of a condition, nobody knows about this, nobody cares about this, nobody understands about it but don't care. i barely ever talk about it because talking about it does nPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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 No.306816[Reply]

I have a job, and heaven knows I'm miserable now, I don't have studies and I have a bad arm so i can work but my arm is hurting me.
I really want the job, I don't have anything better to do with my life in this point.
My parents are so proud of me, at least I have a job, but for my arm problem I don't know how many time I will work in this place.
Average normies life sucks, they don't have a beautiful succubus, if they don't have money their life sucks and if they have money they are consumerist zombies.
I want a life with beauty, I want a beautiful succubus, I want to listen beautiful music, play beautiful videogames, read a beautifull book or manga, play the guitar and have a creative job, I really don't understand normies with consumerist or poor life, why to get up, you don't have dreams, you don't have a beautiful succubus, you don't enjoy beauty more than the last iphone and a good house.
Normies life sucks too, but normies believe they are so better than us, and that is wrong.
I really feel suicidal with this thoughts, I don't have the life I want and I don't want to life a life who I hate. I don't want to be a NEET and I don't want to be a normie with a shit work.
Sorry bad English dear wizards.
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 No.306832

you’re in the wrong part of town, failed normal nigger, we don’t want your kind here lusting after 3d succubi

 No.306833

I would say atleast live for whatever dopamine you can get and get a paid succubus for yourself and i also feel the same way why give a life to a life who I hate so get you self a paid succubus

 No.306834

You are on the wrong website. There is a variety of mainstream platforms like reddit, youtube, discord, 4channel which have specific subcommunities to discuss the desire for succubi.

 No.306835

>>306831
if there is 1.6 billion jeets out there then doesnt this mean they fuck all the time? you need a lot of sex to produce so many jeets.
also if they do have so many wizards/crabs then how come they dont have their own jeetwizchan? why they come to the human internet?

 No.306837

>>306835
come to think of it jeets who come here tend to be in early 20s, but still i think there should be a few in their 30ish.



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 No.306409[Reply]

A lot of people on here, me included struggle with community, relationships with people, family, in general.
Many also describe horrid childhood experiences, neglectful or overprotective parents, abuse, bullying and the like.

I too had my fair share of misery, lack of love, despite best efforts from my mother. (Yet maybe I didn't reciprocate/feel such, despite observing the effort.)
This made me wonder, what do I even expect out of people?
What would an ideal family life look like?
What would feeling loved feel like? (However ridiculous that sounds.) What actions would need to be taken by who for me to feel such a thing?
What do I actually expect from a "friend"? How do I want them to feel about me, to interact with me? How should I engage with people in general?
What boundaries should be set?
I feel like with friendships I often gave my entire being or idk. like I usually had 1 very close friend and nobody else, of course they had multiple friends, always.
I just can't handle many people at once, I struggle with shallow relations because navigating such is beyond me.

I honestly don't know.
I feel like I've had some magical expectations about relationships (I use this word, but this doesn't mean succs or sexual) that simply don't seem to manifest.
Maybe things weren't that bad, maybe I'm just broken in some way.
I just don't know what I would want a good parent to be either. Maybe someone I can confide in regardless of the issue, someone who would have helped me navigate the world?
Someone to teach me to be a person?
I don't know. I often lament my childhood, my lack of development, the lack of warmth, the dread of fearing for my life each night, but realistically this might just have been me.
I mean, my parents also had horrid childhoods themselves so maybe this is just what it's like.

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 No.306813

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>>306409
These are some interesting questions. I generally expect the worst from people in general. Most are probably worthless scum (myself included) that just waste the air they breathe. But I'm at least considerate and sometimes even friendly to strangers (mainly elderly people when they look like they need help) and I do expect a certain amount of basic consideration from others too. Which is why I get incredibly pissed off when I have to leave the house more often than not. I always see trash that people just threw into the fields where I live for example and it makes me seethe and imagine their brutal deaths at my hand every time.

As for friends, I have some from my old school days. A few are now certified hiki NEETs, others are a little more towards the normie end of the spectrum. I never really consider what I expect from them. I guess that they respect my time? That if we have an appointment to play a game or whatever they'll show up or tell me if they can't? But that then just kind of sounds like the basic sort of consideration you'd expect from regular people. Perhaps it's because even between my best friend and me, we never really disclose any deep personal things. So maybe there's an aspect of me just keeping others at a certain distance and that's why they still fall under the general umbrella of "people" vs "friend" in my calculations of expectation.

The same thing for my family. I'd like to think my relationship with my family is okay, we get along well enough that I never had to move out and so on. But if my mom told me out of the blue tomorrow that I needed to fuck off, I guess I'd be a little hurt and disoriented but then it would be like "I guess that's just how it is". They are my family, I want them to be healthy and happy and safe but at the same time I don't feel like we're bonded all that closely. Perhaps it's because I was a latchkey kid and my sister was a normie with a blooming social life while I slowly became a shut in.

Like you I consider myself a weak person. Sometimes I feel like a shade, the ghostly remnants of someone who has died and is just kind of drifting along. I stopped expecting things of myself after running into too many walls too many times and seeing that while hard work matters, luck does even more. Our cultural myths are all survivorship bias and rose tinted glasses. I no longer have it iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.306815

>>306810
I don't wanna shit talk my mom too much since she did so much for me, but really dude same shit here.
Though I ended up being mentally not capable of making it to a degree anyways.
Are your parents successful?
Mine sure as fuck aint. One is a habitual unemployed drunk fuck (barely any contact anymore) and the other is a people pleasing anxiety ridden slave.
I don't mean to berate them either they turned out the way they did for their reasons too.

But who is giving this advice? My mom for example never went to college, worked as a clerk and then forced to a factory for better pay.
Been slaving away at a factory doing physical labor for 20 years now. How would she know anything?

The weed smoking kids you mention? Fuck their parents were entrepreneurs living in mansions.
I was one of the poorest kid in class because my mom wanted me to go to a "high end" high school.
I could have just gone to a vocational school and had a decent life instead of wasting it on trying to "make it"…
Hell I might have even had a better social life there since then most people would have been on my level and similar backgrounds…
Fuck…

What do wageslave parents teach you? To be a slave. All they know. Can't blame them, but still, damn.
i feel like most of the "advice" we were given were just daydreams of our parents too
Like my mom never got to go to college so it must have been the missing element.

 No.306819

>>306813
Thank you for sharing.

I don't think it's too much to want common courtesy and for others not to act like animals.
Living in a flat with poor people… basic humanity is not at all the default.
Trashing of public utilities and common use areas is the norm unfortunately. Noise and smoking with zero care as well.
>Most are probably worthless scum (myself included) that just waste the air they breathe.
Shows that you are aware… wish people shared a bit of such self-awareness.

On the friends part I'm glad you already explained how and what you consider a friend.
To me such shallow connections don't qualify and I struggle maintaining them as well since they hold little value in my eyes.
I know this sounds arrogant.
I'm aware this is not necessarily beneficial since for the wast majority of people such "friendships" are what they want and expect, nothing more.
I'm cordial to people in general, but I wouldn't go out of my way to keep such connections going.
I can see it working if you yourself prefer to keep them at arms length.

The family part as broken as it is I hold no grudges. Similar situation post-divorce at least. Was quite horrific prior. Sister turned out normal at least.
Good for her. I'm grateful I'm allowed to stick around, but I also wouldn't have any hard feelings if I were told to leave.

>I stopped expecting things of myself after running into too many walls too many times and seeing that while hard work matters, luck does even more.

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 No.306822

>>306819
>Trashing of public utilities and common use areas is the norm unfortunately.
I encounter this whenever I have to go to the nearest larger town or city and it always makes me feel like living in a dying society. Which is probably accurate. But it just fills me with anger, disappointment, resentment and other things I cannot accurately describe. I guess even though people always find a way to disappoint you, no matter what you expect.

>To me such shallow connections don't qualify and I struggle maintaining them as well since they hold little value in my eyes.

I don't view them as shallow since we have spent a lot of time together during our youth and thus we know each other fairly well. I suppose gaming and shooting the ship in itself is the value. Company and shared history. All the little in-jokes and obscure references that build up over the course of years, decades. Though to be fair that only really applies to my best friend who became hiki NEET after dropping out of uni. With the others it does sometimes feel like consciously maneuvering a social landscape, which makes them feel more like "close strangers" at times. There were many times I wondered why I kept those connections up and my best guess is habit and a certain amount comfort (though fun too).

>Sister turned out normal at least.

I feel like succubi generally do better with these types of things. People are more likely to try and help them, whereas men are usually left to their own devices. More social support and what not. Or perhaps it's just that the normal distribution of traits in men is wider, meaning there are more socially divergent men than succubi, who are already more inclined to go with the social flow in general.

>I know myself, yet for some reason every so often I get a spark within me that inspires some vague dissatisfaction that makes me dream up that "perhaps one day".

Believe it or not I do get those as well. Perhaps it's because growing up I was always told I'd go do great things, that I was so gifted and talented. These kinds of hopeful episodes definitely became less intense and less frequent with age for me though. In my early 20s they were a constant, now as I'm almost 30 though there is more of a sense of haPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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 No.306726[Reply]

I have a horrible mother who criticises me just as much when I do something good as when I do something wrong. I remember having a lot of traumatic experiences with her, and even today she’s still the same. For example, I started being more hygienic and washing my hands before eating, and she started using that habit as a weapon against me. She also criticises me for not going out with my ‘friends’, but when I do leave the house, she keeps insulting me Any advice on how to get free from her? makes me unhappy
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>>306738
>She simply doesn't like you. Move out.
I can’t move out on my own just yet, but I can go and live with my dad because my parents are divorced. I love my dad very much; he’s a good person and helps me with my problems. My mum is always criticising him for not having a steady job, but he’s an honest worker.

 No.306790

>>306783
>I can’t move out on my own just yet
I think you can and you should give it a shot while you still have the safety net of both parents.
>my parents are divorced
>posted alongside sad_breakcore_tranny_drug_meido_discordreaction.png
Hehe

 No.306791

>>306790
I am not him but this junkie anime wench existed long before trooncore

 No.306795

>>306791
OP here, I'm not a crab

 No.306809

Normies, especially succubi just love to complain. I bet your mother has nothing of substance going on in her life either, if she was happy and had hobbies she wouldn't be so up your ass. nagging and bitching is a popular female hobby



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