/dep/ - Depression

>>307431
*Damn I meant anti-reclusive society. My brain is unreliable as always.

Humans were designed to drink and do drugs. There's simply no other means to exist.

>>307436
Peoples' lives tend to be better in all metrics when they do neither of those things.

>>307361
UPD 2
Barely made it to post today after half a dozen or so tries. Whatever causes that problem it clearly keeps getting worse. I have no other choice but to seek help, which sucks because I don't have a car nor can I afford it since I used to be a neet for 10+ years instead of wageslaving. However, the PC still works fine so I will just keep it on 24/7 for a few weeks. Fuck, I should have brought a laptop instead, my old one still works after 11 years.

>>307223
During the colder months I become miserable and during the warmer months I anger easily at nothing. Especially living somewhere without AC.

>>303369
found psychoactive substance abuser

>>302015
mind = blown

>>304656
narc

>>297753
>How do you guys fight anhedonia?
Have you tried nicotine?

I fight anhedonia with high ABV beer. But I only get drunk on Friday evening. I'm sober the rest of the time.

When I'm drunk (not wasted), I enjoy playing videogames, I enjoy music.

>>301975
>Life with anhedonai feels pointless. No pleasure, no point? Like why do anything. I just end up doing nothing

This.

>maybe with a hidden reason inside me
what do you think it is?

you're probably neurodivergent, wizzie. the world wasn't made for you, it was made for normies to hustle and bustle. there's still a lot of cool stuff you can do in your room. you have access to cyberspace after all! there's every book ever written, cool people interested in extremely niche subjects, pictures of tits and ass… the (cyber)world is your oyster. give up on meatspace and just focus on the important bits (heh).

>>307410
it was very cold outside and i don't need much alco to pass out
>>307411
i'm too much of a chicken to slice myself, but if i had a gun i'd maybe be able to shoot myself. but you need to be careful to blow your brains out properly lest your survive and i'm a clumsy retard so i wouldn't trust myself with a gun anyway

>>307419
You have no idea what consciousness is. Waking mind and it's buzz is not it.

>>307420
>it was very cold outside and i don't need much alco to pass out
I don't know wiz… Thought of amputation because of the frostbite seems much more scary than mangling your brains.

>>307423
good call. gotta walk real far so they don't find you too soon. maybe it's good i didn't go for it after all.

maybe burrowing a hole in river ice and jumping under? no way you get saved then

>>305362
OP, had a neetbucks and be happy

I was a neet then a wagie now half and half. The only good thing is money. I wanted to move to SEA after grinding but nope. Just find small joys.

>>306667
if you want ultra intense like the other wiz said, DMT. but personally i think controlled doses of LSD and working up to high doses where you can handle the intensity is what i'd recommend. I only had borderline overwhelming experiences when i got up to 4-5 hits which i think made them more profound since i worked up to that intensity, because i was able to be present and not just tripping out of my gourd

>>306762
LSD sucks, there are many other Phenethylamines that are better. LSD lasts for a long time so if you get a shitty trip it will make you want to commit for a long time. And whilst its true that nndmt is very intensive, it only lasts for like 10 mins

You're not missing anything tbh. I only get like $1k per month in neetbux and it fucking sucks.

>>307424
Are you sure your dopamine now isn't fried to crisp because of alcohol usage? You might still enjoy those things after your receptors reset.

>>307425
It's impossible to fry dopamine unless
>However, high-dose amphetamine can cause indirect neurotoxicity as a result of increased oxidative stress from reactive oxygen species and autoxidation of dopamine
I don't how to put it in my own words. I'm not a biologist or chemist

>>307427
What I meant is fucking with the dopamine system by gulping to much alcohol. I know what it feels like, it's like a total draught, nothing is fun, complete anhedonia for days. But it passes, timeline depends on how much and for how long you've been drinking.

>>307428
I don't think it has something to do with the dopamine system. Drug withdrawal happens with antidepressant too and any kind of withdraw can lead to death, seizures and other awful things that are probably not related to dopamine.
>nothing is fun, complete anhedonia
Quite common effects when a body is ill and needs to preserve energy for recovery.

>>307396
In a hypothetical scenario, it must be said.

>>307395
>Try to listen to happy energy music in some activies to make a constant trigger for you when you need it (the same sad trigger of music can be made with a happy trigger of energy happy music)
Makes sense

>>307399
This maybe help for a routine.

>>307400
>>307395
What do I do to stop avoiding my tasks due to anxiety/depression
>in terms of thinking the amount of things that must be accomplished is an impossible weight that will crush me and that anything I do will be wrong, not good enough, and ruin opportunities forever if I send them out. Such as emails, messages, or reports.
It's the sort of panic that sets in and causes me to run away from my must do tasks. As an example of the essentials filing taxes was a nightmare this year. I have found some relief in working with others regarding due dates & announcements to them that I will complete such & such at this or that time/date but this has its limits & is a huge problem when is still don't finish what i said I would after a week goes by.

>>307417
The adhd side of the lack of focus goes without saying.

>>306108
Not fitting into society brings a lot of practical problems with it which can be intolerable. If you can NEET it up and somewhat insolate yourself from other people, you can be fine, but you will be reminded every time you go outside that you have a target on your back and you will be surprised to see that literal strangers will go out of their way to bully you for no reason. Getting a job or moving up is impossible because your apparent Otherness is so obvious to other people that they will either consciously or subconsciously aim to put you down in your place and not allow you to exist in peace.

Make no mistake, alienation can be quite intolerable. It's not an abstraction, it's very much real. The hivemind can detect you and you will have problems having any kind of life at all.

Dead internet theory.

>>306120
Have you noticed how many new nonsensical threads are being made, then readily abandoned by the OP? It's a simple, yet insidious tactic, they've been using it on 4chan for decades. It worked amazingly well as you can tell.

I'm only going to end myself when shit gets real bad. I intend to waste all my money first, might just NEET it up until I can't live anymore. I did spend some time homeless, and it wasn't fun like I thought it was (I was autisticly dressed in armour and a sword wandering the streets and woodlands)

>>306088
>I just don't have the courage to end it.
I recommend GABAergics.

>Let's discuss strategies for getting rid of pessimistic thoughts.

that's the spirit! clearly stating the thing you want to happen. this helps the thing being born.

1) i believe the number one thing that helps you shake the pessimism is choice. embrace choice. choose to do everything you can to be healthy. the pessimism is a manifestation of auto pilot and choice is manual flight. you do your own flying by choosing to. you can choose to be healthy, you can choose to be an optimist, you can choose to say "this is fine" while sitting at the burning table no matter how strange and out of place it feels.

2) when sitting at a burning table, the impulse is to run. this only makes sense when there is somewhere to run though that isn't the burning table. the impulse to flee, not to be here, to be anywhere but here is a strong anchor into unconsciousness. i did this for decades with video games. i could not handle being a childslave forced to go to school where evil people who hate me violently tried to make me into cannonfodder so i played video games every second i could, trying to endure the torture. now i have endured the torture and i know nothing about this world because i've never been here. i was born in my late 30s.

3) habits are important. everything you do often enough you will start to do automatically and forget about and potentially not even notice when you are doing it. you have to choose to look at your habits and see if they are good for you. one after the other, question all your existing habits; which is way harder then it sounds because habits try to evade your scrutiny as to keep themselves alive; they develop a live on their own and develop self-preservation even. find the bad habits and reduce them gently, think of good new habits and do them often enough to experience something wonderful: you will be doing them automatically without having to spend conscious effort and willpower on them. i don't have to give my best to eat healthy, i have been doing it for so long that it is the only way i eat at this point.

i hope you can stay your course of positivity long enough for your efforts to become habit OP💪💪. i remember this wonderful feeling: when you do something that takes dedication that did not come easy to you and then one day when you are absent minded you notice that you are doing the thing without you having to force yourself whatsoever because the habit has formedPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>303386

i'm reading carl jung currently, dudeman thinks dreams are how the collective unconscious tries to communicate with you. once i started trying to write down my dreams i noticed how much i was dreaming.

>>306441
>Saw a workbook online called Cognitive Behavioural Workbook for Depression online and decided to order it. Will report in a couple of months if it helps.

i'll read the report. when i find it i post an interesting workbook i once bought on a whim and did about half of it. it was all about drawing statistics about your life on colorful paper.

>>306441
>We all hear "just lift weights bruh" but it's not the only cure for depression. It's a very effective cure, but before that you need to build up your window of tolerance. I decided to start small. I'll go out and walk my dog in park early in the morning or late in the evening when nobody's around. I also want to read more new books and go back to fingerboarding. Fingerboarding is a good hobby because

dancing or at least some form of physical expression that can slowly become a dance i believe to be a necessary part of mental health. i like to skate to music and it feels like dancing. enjoying and playing with the movement mechanics of the human body is an essential part of the puzzle i almost never hear discussed or even mentioned so let me mention it here: dancing, skating, ice skating, or maybe an artistic martial arts like capoeira are necessary. at least dance to music you love with your headphones on in your room. if this feels shameful to you, it shouldn't. dance is the antidote to this shame that society tries to install on people.

>>302319
Check my thread around self-hypnosis and mind hygiene for some tech tips if you want
Good luck and have a good life.
>>307395

It's a sign of depression or just bad mental health. Cutting people off is easy, but just makes things worse. It's hard to find people to connect with though

>>306442
>being an animal is annoying
I hate this view of reality, human beings are very different from animals.
>>306462
>people getting worked up about literally nothing and expecting, demanding you to care
I hate this so much, if you show you don't care, they get worked up even harder.
>>306498
>medieval history
Sounds very interesting. Last time I read history was the life of Augustus in Suetonius' 12 Emperors.
>>306875
I wish I could hang myself in the woods, but i'll have to do it at home.

>I even hate my own body for forcing me to eat and wash in order to not completely dysfunction.
This is why you can't protect your solitude.

One can only achieve exile if one can make themselves ugly and stinky. This is why monks shave their heads and wear rags. As long as you care about your appearance and hygiene someone will always care.

If you want to be a hermit even within society, just stop showering and people will leave you alone.

I'm doing this now. It's for the best. I quite literally have about 100 family members that I used to be in somewhat contact with, but now i shut off as much as possible. 30+ cousins I just dont respond to, of course all the unc/aunties too. I can't handle the stress and judgement and intrusions they force into my life. I can't stand my grandma and older relatives repeating the same questions and stories over and over non stop. Im beetter off online working the least amount of hours possible. Ideally I'll have an apartment of my own soon. The worst part is when these people try to find me at work… very annoying

>>307190
>One can only achieve exile if one can make themselves ugly and stinky.

you'd think this is a valid approach, i did try this.

when i was molested hard by females i stopped brushing my teeth, believing it would make my breath smell so horrible that the succubi leave me alone. this did not really work, i was still swarmed.

dressing as plain as i could, wearing sunglasses everywhere and hiding my long hair did help somewhat but what unfortunately draws the female attention is joy of life, health, connection with source, optimism, lack of corruption. so the only way is to act to be sickly, weak and depressed. basically you can't be happy even though it is easily possible for a human because if you are, females will block your path rugby-style and violently force you to give them attention. they are the worst rapists, they have no concept of consent whatsoever for other people; only for themselves.