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 No.296511[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This is the classic "suicide general", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards, quite different from that other thread in the catalog.

I'm currently 26, almost 27 (rings a bell?). And I can't take it anymore. I will soon depart from life through hanging. I haven't done it yet because I live in a shithole and there are always people around making noise and being nosy. I will just wait till it's very quiet so I can go to the woods and end this miserable existence.

I don't care if it might "get better". Existence itself is a curse and we're all gonna die anyway. I've read enough pessimist books and life affirming books and I side with the former. I don't need your compansion, because the thought that I will soon disappear is the only thing that makes me happy. I'm not even sad because of this.
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 No.305149

>>305099
Poison hemlock grows everywhere in the wild.

 No.305158

>>300267
Sorry, I genuinely don't think a human wrote this. Not that it was generated by a bot or something, but that something demonic penned it, or that it was penned under demonic influence, like John Milton's Paradise Lost. That's what I instinctively felt.

 No.305159

>>305158
you're unenlighened

 No.305160

I used to be really suicidal, and maybe I still am in some quiet, lingering way. What keeps me moving forward is this idea of the technological singularity, a future where everything changes so radically that the pain of now might finally lose its grip. I am not clinging to a person or a belief system so much as a horizon, a point in time where the rules of living could be rewritten.

I hold onto the hope that if I live long enough, full dive virtual reality will exist, and I will be able to step into a paradise that feels as real as this world but without its weight. That imagined place is not just escapism, it is a promise that there might be a version of life that does not hurt so much. Even if it is only a dream right now, it gives me a reason to keep breathing and to keep going one more day.

 No.305165

>>296511
dying and suffering in agony is so lonely. i have few days to do it at most and i still have no clue how to defeat SI despite my life being over for a long time. wish i didn't care about anything and was normal about it like everyone else who just kills themselves cause they failed a college exam. i want to just walk out of here and not see or hear anyone from my family ever. i'm dying from endless diseases, have drug-induced dementia and i'll run out of drugs and get seizures or strokes in a day or two. anyway, my method is and always will be train since i have no home or even room to myself, so i cant do anything at home and im a tard that would fuck up every method that required caoabilities. doesnt get easier than walking in front of a train, im just a coward and ill never change. if i wont do it ill end up in prison mental ward hospital in a loop till im 100 years old or die earlier.


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 No.305152[Reply]

When someone in deep depression shouts that there is no free will, what they are really saying is that everything feels trapped. It feels like their personality, their failures, their pain, and even their thoughts were all decided long before they had a chance to speak. In that state, the idea of choice sounds fake, almost cruel, because nothing feels like it could have gone differently. Life feels like a machine that produced them and then abandoned them inside its gears. Saying there is no free will becomes a way to explain why everything hurts and why escape seems impossible.

The reply, “you do not have free will, but you do have a will,” changes the frame in a subtle but powerful way. A will is not about being free from causes or history, it is about the fact that something inside still wants, still cares, still reacts. Even if every desire has a source, the desire itself is real. The wish for relief, for connection, for meaning, or even just for the pain to stop, is a force that has weight. Depression can bury that force under exhaustion and despair, but it does not erase it. Having a will means there is still something alive inside you, even when everything else feels predetermined.

 No.305153

People who go on about free will when they don't believe in a God are the biggest timewasters ever.

 No.305154

Everything has a cause, there is no unmoved mover, if we could know everything about the universe we would predict the future, it's like a movie

 No.305162

what a bunch of crap, in your everyday life you take several small decisions everyday, and at certain points in life you make big decisions which decides everything afterwards, everyone except 50 iq nursing home retards have experienced this.
the idea that this is somehow all fake is demented and I do not understand why people even consider it

 No.305163

>>305162
Some people might be drawn to determinism because it offers a framework where life’s events and choices are seen as the inevitable result of prior causes. They might look at the world and notice patterns, how genetics influence behavior, how upbringing shapes personality, and how societal pressures guide decisions, and conclude that these forces leave little room for true independent choice. In this view, every action is part of a causal chain stretching back long before an individual was born, and what feels like free will is really just the mind interpreting a predetermined sequence of events. For some, this perspective can feel comforting, as it frames personal struggles or mistakes as part of a larger, understandable system rather than random failures of willpower.

Others might be drawn to determinism through observation of human behavior and scientific reasoning. Neuroscientific studies, for instance, show that the brain can initiate actions before a person is consciously aware of deciding, which can suggest that our sense of choice is an illusion. Philosophically, determinism can appeal to those who prioritize logic and consistency over intuition, as it reduces moral and emotional judgment to cause and effect rather than mysterious free agency. While they may still act and make decisions in daily life, they interpret those actions as inevitable outcomes of prior conditions, and in doing so, they see the world as a predictable, rule-governed system rather than a realm of ultimate personal freedom.

 No.305164

>>305162
Can you prove that there is an uncaused event in your brain that takes arbitrary decisions?


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 No.302844[Reply]

And say something about it if you want. I'm scared of my dad so I'm drawing a monster (him?)
I didn't know we could draw. Why isn't this done more often?
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 No.304847

hi

 No.304849

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>>304847

 No.304889

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tooth pain and a constant pit in my stomach from too much family exposure on the holidays

 No.304891

>>304849

 No.305161

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"Kaaaah! Is this what being happy feels like?! I'm scared!"


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 No.304361[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The imposition edition. How many times have you done this? Previous https://wizchan.org/dep/res/303254+50.html
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 No.305142

>>305141
It stopped. If you are interested in meeting the sinister entities, just put a cross in your bedroom. They hate that shit. You will also experience negative happenings in your life. Maybe it's something demons do to stop them from being "exorcized" from you, their last stand, their last influence. I dunno, could all be nothing.

 No.305143

>>305141
At the moment of wakening i heard the full blast scream yes. Could still be part of the dream i guess

 No.305155

>>305139
yeah these kinds of dreams are cool but also very scary
the good creature would categorise the souls of the dead liars according to various "brands" of lies like
-pilpul or hairsplitting
-talmud: making up fake rules about reality
-intentionally mixing up time, place and person
-atheism, idolatry and fake religion
-bearing false witness
-scams
there were more categories or "brands". then they would receive different kinds of torture according to the severity of their lying like
-removal of limbs
-sensory deprivation
-being forced to watch the same marvel movie or play the same gameboy advance game on repeat for centuries
and so on

 No.305156

>>305155
>-being forced to watch the same marvel movie or play the same gameboy advance game on repeat for centuries
kek

 No.305157

>>305156
Well the gameboy scenario wouldn't be so bad for a person on the spectrum, they might choose this voluntary even.


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 No.301895[Reply]

Starting a new anti-suicide general as the original has been bump-locked.

Helping wizards to understand that persuasive feelings of suicide can be bested.

Further the discursive spirit of this thread will remain the same as the first: to counter the general luring tenor of sadness that defines all the other threads through sharing positive practical advice purposed to reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidal. Naturally, being that I started the topic, I will be the first to contribute.

(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care (many have already done this, to no worthwhile avail)
(2) Examine what you are eating. For example, gluten especially produces depressive/psychotic episodes in sensitive autistic individuals. Sugar also is not healthy for your brain. Delimiting ingestion of both is wise.
(3) Make sure you are getting sufficient sleep. Chronic sleeplessness or even a few days' worth of irregular sleep can seriously interfere with the clarity of our thinking.
(4) Clean up. Taking a warm shower and putting on fresh clean clothes always is refreshing and helps to break up darkened mental habits.
(5) Breathe fresh air. Open whichever windows punctuate your room and allow some wind to come in.
(6) Watch your breathing. When we are panicked, our breathing can become very disordered and we do not recognize the effect this has on our thinking. Take deep, purposeful breaths, and collect your thoughts.
(7) Respect yourself. You have done your best to survive in an awful world, and you should grant yourself forgiveness for any mistakes and the allowance to rest with a composed and balanced mind.

I've done my part. Anyone else?
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 No.304801

>>304793
>They say the Mediterranean diet is the healthiest as it contains a lot of fruits, nuts, and berries. I don't know if cutting off wheat could be a good thing for you as you will be needing those carbohydrates but I would suggest you to add fruits and salads to your meals and especially dietary fibres.


IIRC, there are two catches


1. Cucumbers here are full of nitro-shit hence causing constipation and stuff.

2. Wheat? Wheat?!?! You probably should use buckwheat or rice to avoid gluten-related problems (implying any of us *may* have non-severe wheat-related problems)

 No.304803

>>304350
>everyone i've ever liked killed themselves or is in jail.
Are you a gangbanger?

 No.305017

>>304801
buckwheat is good however it is very oxalate-dense (so you shouldn't over-eat it).

 No.305026

>>305017
>oxalate-dense
thank you for the reminder; no food is "superfood" so one should eat different foods from time to time

 No.305151

>>305026
absolutely agreed


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 No.301262[Reply]

It's Saturday night and I started taking a new antidepressant called Mirtazapine (15mg) on Thursday night.

This is my 10th or so attempt at a psychiatric medication. I've tried lots of therapy too.

Wish me luck anonymages. I was about to quit my job but watched some motivational videos on autoplay on Youtube for hours and as cheesy as it was, they convinced me to give this a go.

I didn't even get these prescribed recently. It was way back last year and then I just didn't take them because this particular medicine has a reputation for making people really fatigued.

It does put me to sleep. But, maybe that's ok. If it means I can find some happening apart from fapping and dreaming while I sleep.

Maybe it'll even help me turnaround my fortunes at work where it looks like I'm sliding towards a firing or just being unable to come in. Barely stopped myself raging at my boss the other day and took 2 weeks sick leave from stress afterwards. I need to swallow some humble pie come Monday and hopefully these pills help. Being off work for 2 weeks showed me I'm just as miserable and actually more so depressed, anxious and stressed not working despite all the antiwork slogans I collect.
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 No.304661

>>304619
Well, could be your problem is unrelated to the meds, Idk. Male impotence can be caused by psychological things too, just low self-esteem or shitty moods. I can talk by experience, when I have periods during which I feel powerless/weak/a loser then my dick is softer and it's harder for me to get an erection but when I experience some success in some form in life I can get hard-ons that last for hours and can cum like a volcano. Your self-image counts A LOT when it comes to sexuality as a male.

Anyway, if you are sure it's the meds that caused this then sue them, get that money. Money is always good, especially if you didn't work for it, trust me, youngwiz.

>>304646
>pornography, abortionism, lgbt, contraceptives
These aren't necessarily evil though you are right jews push these things or use them for their own ends or to earn more money.

Enjoying sexuality in some way, whether it's masturbation/watching porn or another way and discovering new things isn't bad, it's a natural thing to enjoy life as much as you can. But when people start to assume identities like lgbt ones and make them their central core identity then it will end up with less white children. There is nothing wrong with porn itself or enjoying gay porn, only if you adopt some shitty stereotype that comes with this.

Abortion and contraceptives can be useful if the people in question have some diseases that could be inherited by their children or if we are talking about non-whites then by all means these things are good.

 No.304670

>>301262
>It does put me to sleep. But, maybe that's ok. If it means I can find some happening apart from fapping and dreaming while I sleep.


vent your apartment
go to sleep early
wake up early

 No.304671

>>304651


r u sure its not some Jordan with some Afghan Borzoi doggo pet?
set up a cam

 No.305050

>>304646
I've been researching and apparently some people crash from ginger and other organic serotonin antagonists, I tried for a day but I wasn't sure to keep going after I read some people's experiences

 No.305150

>>305050
I couldn't surmise that there would be any danger in incorporating a small amount of grated organic ginger root into your daily tea/water. I did this myself years ago and found no harm from it. It was one of the first serotonin antagonists that I had discovered to which I had no ill reaction.

Ginger, B1, Magnesium, Vitamin E, total discontinuation of the offending drug (ssri, etc.), eliminating fluoride, sweating, belief that things can and will improve – are all helpful weapons in fighting pssd, all of which can lead to cure.

>I tried for a day but I wasn't sure to keep going after I read some people's experiences

Be mindful that many in the "pssd community" do not want others to improve. This is not say that I am calling into question their claimed experiences with certain herbs (ie, ginger), but at least in virtue of my own experience with pssd and the trying out of different serotonin antagonists of variable strength, I can say I do not feel you need to be afraid of crashing on the ingesting of some ginger for however many few days. Ginger has been used safely for thousands of years; even in antiquity high-class etairai (greek prostitutes) would mix ginger into the drinks of their clients so to encourage arousal.

But like in any personal experiment, proceeding gradually by steps, not over-running one's goal, being watchful for any sensitivity in the diet to the introduction of a new element, is always a wise course. So ultimately it is up to you. But don't ever lose confidence that your brain can be restored to its original healthy chemistry…whichever restorative path you end up following.


 No.305123[Reply]

People like to say suffering “builds character” or “makes you stronger,” but that idea is only half true at best. Struggle can force growth when there’s support, safety, and room to process what happened. Some people do come out of hardship with deeper empathy, resilience, or clarity about what matters. But that growth isn’t automatic, and it’s not owed to the pain itself. Often it comes despite the suffering, not because of it, through reflection, help from others, or sheer luck in having the resources to heal.

Just as often, suffering doesn’t strengthen someone at all; it wears them down. Chronic stress, trauma, and loss can rewire the brain toward fear, numbness, or hopelessness. Instead of “character,” you get anxiety, depression, mistrust, or burnout. Saying suffering is good for you can quietly invalidate people who were harmed by it and never got the chance to recover. Pain isn’t a forge that reliably produces stronger people, it’s a risk. Sometimes people adapt and grow, and sometimes they’re left carrying damage that was never fair to ask them to endure in the first place.
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 No.305131

>>305130
Nah it's just the principle of threshold force. If it doesn't break you it makes you more resilient. Yeah sure you end up really twisted in places but ugh such is life I guess.

OP is likely just on a self pity spree trying to rationalize his inability to cope. Should get better in a few days.

 No.305137

I remember being made to read a book about Soviet refugees that escaped the gulag. And later in life in New Zealand they weren't really any better off for it. They just worked the lowest of wagecuck jobs, were sorta socially isolated and did weird things like hoard bread crusts in their drawer. The US soldiers that escorted them to the country were commenting on how they just seemed lifeless and distrusting, emotionless even as they were given candy and sweets.

There was a guy at my old job who was completely normal until a group of guys kidnapped him and locked him under a carpit for several days. He almost died of dehydration. He came out of that a barely functioning alcoholic that would melt down when anyone would yell at him. He was constantly the victim of confidence tricks.

 No.305145

what about all the ones who kill themselves, "builds character" lmao

 No.305146

I have actually come to the opposite conclusion that I need to be in a good mood to be productive and resilient towards life's problems. I still think the zone of optimal development thing is the best explanation. People need to suffer but only as much as they can handle and too much or too little is not good. The improvebrahs can romanticize suffering because their actual life is comfortable so more suffering will push them to grow. People like us don't need any more suffering. We should first try to feel better first before we can grow.

>Struggle can force growth when there’s support, safety, and room to process what happened.
Yeah isn't good support network the number one variable inversely related to mental illness or something? No meds or therapy exists for having a shit life lmao.

 No.305147

Same normalfags think bullying builds character too and doesn't just break people and turn them into hollow shells.


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 No.304408[Reply]

new internet of over 10 yrs now… is it me or there is nothing left to talk about?
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 No.305129

It's turning into a vacant internet. There aren't even bots. Just nobody. The media is even reporting that people have resolved to return to analog forms of entertainment and the internet has been deemed cringe. I am just a schizo talking to myself.

 No.305132

>>305129
Nah you'd be surprised how many such schizos are out there too insecure to strike a wizfriendship because they're fucked up in the head and can't process emotions.

 No.305133

I have perma blocked most of the sites I used due to being too cancerous but I find myself with a low activity webring site, wizchan and some twitch group. I wonder where one is supposed to go. Offline 24/7? some Discord/Steam friend chat?

 No.305134

>>305133
>some Discord/Steam friend chat?

Yep. Everyone at work is on this stuff. I caved once and signed up - got tired of work acquaintances bugging me when I started the computer in the morning. Uninstalled all of it.

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>>305133
I never used Discord or the social places of anti-social normies sites.
But in december of last year i started using Discord for server proyects (WoW, City of Heroes, Club Penguien etc) i never talk here.
Just read and ask.
I have just one group that sometimes enter and see memes or chat about the topic of Ceremonial magick, meditation etc.
I have one friend of a WoW server in disc.
I not into old IRC


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 No.303176[Reply]

Reminder to take your vitamins, especially "fish oil" one " Vitamin D3



they say Vitamin D3, because "Vitamin D" sounds like an euphemism, kekeke
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 No.305087

>>305083
I run out of it anyway. Also I didn't start feeling good, just a different sort of bad. But still much less lethargic, which is good I guess.

 No.305090

>>305087
next stop - test your iron levels and check if your body handles iron well.

or, just get some iron supplements as well…

 No.305093

>>305090
to steel my nuts, lol? anyway what does iron do? will it help me not feel like somebody's trying to crush my neck when anxiety hits? i'm fucked up enough that anxiety feels like a very physical thing

 No.305097

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>>303176
Friendly reminder you body might not be able to absorb it from food or it might not be able to produce it by means of sunlight… both cases happened to me. After a study on vitamin D my doctor prescribed me pills of 5000 iu of vitamin D per day for four months. In the very first week those pills solved a problem that for almost two decades I thought it was normal: perpetual exhaustion. Nowadays I have more energy and don't even feel tired after working out. The downside of this is that I cannot blame fatigue for my lack of interest in developing my skills… that's a psychological issue no ammount of money will solve.

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>>305097
Thank you for being with me.
See, I used to hear on how the lack of vitamin D ruins the mood for the Finnish people. I understand when a Saint-Petersburg guy lacks the money to buy some cod liver, but the Finns??? Thank you for explaining the need for proper meds-like vitamins D

Regards, OP




>>305097
>The downside of this is that I cannot blame fatigue for my lack of interest in developing my skills…

ugh? uh? Your job, mate? Your title?
Coulda help you a li'l bit at that I guess

If you work at some gov't job, you will feel empty a bit from the very nature of strict gov't jobs, "by the book" and stuff… If not, please tell so I could some looking up.

>that's a psychological issue no ammount of money will solve.
Ah, sometimes you just need some *edutaiment* videos that explain your things in fun manner rather than bold manner. Coulda ask a chatty for some fun channels to larn something *adjacent* to the skills you already have


 No.305094[Reply]

It’s over for me, I’m 18 and I have the social skills of a goldfish, I’m 5’5, autistic and not particularly good looking

Now at the moment my cope is the gym, I’m fairly lean and have visible abs but I’ve been tempted to start drinking daily or at the very least several days a week

This is because:
1) it feels nice
2) it’s not too expensive
3) it makes me more social
4) it may make life interesting again

But at the same time I have my doubts

These are:
1) I am genetically predisposed to alcoholism, several members of my family are fond of a drink or have been, with my late father being an alcoholic before meeting my mother
2) I am quite proud of what I have done to my body over the past year or so, I used to be quite fat as a child/teen so to throw it all away would be quite upsetting

What should I do wizards? Besides vidya and the gym, nothing brings me any joy, I’ve tried dating apps and got 0 matches and I’ve never been approached by a succubus irl so I know it is for a fact over
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 No.305106

>>305094
>It’s over for me, I’m 18
ugh..?
>and I have the social skills of a goldfish, I’m 5’5, autistic and not particularly good looking
1. Look. Lemme try a broad advice first. You need some PROMPTS for an AI to make your life "more interesting" + download an extdntion that saves your AI chat from your messenger app to your device's memory into a separate file.

2. Now, I have an idea for you to review (with an AI or a trusted person, but not anons, let alone us wizards). The idea is "Cutecel". Think of cutemaxxing and maybe "cute by doing daily things well" also.


>Now at the moment my cope is the gym, I’m fairly lean and have visible abs but I’ve been tempted to start drinking daily or at the very least several days a week
Look. These two *counter each other*! You tried a so-called gymmaxxing yet you feel you're still a gymcel and you now try DUBOISMAXXING thats just not what you want.


Try: k-pop style to woo k-pop "connoseurettes" who won't flaunyt over a particular K-pop band yet who seem to be into k-pop haha funny boyz

or some other style i dunno
make sure to not get pwned by orkcelz though, waaaaaaaagh

 No.305121

2026 - 18 = 2008
This nigger was born in 2008
He was 8 in 2016
Let that sink in

 No.305122

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>>305094
>What should I do wizards?
Don't sell your soul to alcohol and don't NEET, you need to keep moving forward in other areas of your life.
>>305121
>This nigger was born in 2008
Not necessarily. Only if he was born sometime in the first week of january. He's probably from 2007.
t. 2007 anonymage

 No.305127

>>305101
>>305102
I'm 29 now but I've been lurking wizard/wizchan since I was 17. Some of us know we're destined to be wizards from a young age.

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>>305127
At 29, you are still unaccustomed to being a wizard but the time you are mid thirties, you aren't even really thinking about it much anymore. You have adjusted to it completely by then or at least that is my experience.

The average person has some 9-5 grind that they hate and is more miserable than me and that includes succubi. People aren't delusionmaxxed to the extent I am. It's the only way to survive these days.


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