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 No.309064[Reply]

Discuss your substance related coping mechanisms and how it pertains to your depression here.
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 No.309098

>>309070
Have you ever thought of referring to kombucha as "the booch"? I have. In fact last time I was at the store I asked the f/emale in the aisle whether they have any "booch" and she told me that they did not. Joke's on her!

 No.309101

Video games

 No.309105

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>>309098
boochi the rock

 No.309109

>>309089
Not a big deal if you eat a lot of food too, but then you get fat. I'm currently maintaining 10-12 a day by working out 5x a week and being a good long distance runner. I've only ever run into health problems from beer when I drank on an empty stomach.

 No.310084

>>309064
Let me do some math.

Most nights are 10 shots of Everclear and 10 shots of a liqueur. 1 shot to 1.5 ounce.
That's 15 + (15 x 0.25) Which is 15 + 3.75.
It all comes out to roughly 20 ounces of ethanol a night. I start mixing them stronger after I get loosened up.


I know it's all so miserable, but at least I can't feel it. Consequences, repercussions, the pain of a near-lethal dose.
It's just static at that point.

I won't say it feels good. But at least it doesn't hurt.
That's the most important part.
Not even the hangover. I learned how to get around those. I'm really good at avoiding pain. I wish that could be a marketable skill. I'd be just filthy rich if it was.

A wizard can dream. It's a shame that's about all we can do in this hellish place.



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 No.309794[Reply]

Another Evil under the Sun Edition. You of many.

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 No.310051

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>>310043
>you have no understanding of history
>he only reason it feels shitty is because of capitalism
>dependent upon pleasing and serving the capitalist class
> centuries of decline thanks to global warming

 No.310068

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I cannot shake off the impending sense of death, NOT doom mind you. More like a sense of finality, like a "that's all folks" in the back of my head. Not pain or joy. Just owari da. Of having hit a wall and knowing that there's nothing back to walk to, nor a forward to look to.

Nothing will change and that is far more terrifying than anything else. Yes, stagnation == death btw

 No.310069

>>310051
>stating facts is reddit

 No.310071

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>>310068
I subscribed to the newsletter of this YouTube grifter years ago as it was pertinent to my reluctant field of work. Yesterday I got an email from him in my inbox. The body text in the preview read: "Want to know your next five years? Look at the last five."

Yeah.

 No.310083

Well anonymous here but anyways I can't stand fucking life I have a Job I have money and I still have no friend's not a single gf in my life and I genuinely cannot stand life anymore everywhere I look I see people hanging out with others or I see a nice loving couple but worse part is that I'm really scared to talk to strangers and randoms even at my job I tense up but I have money and a job but not a single fucking person in my life what should I do?



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 No.309759[Reply]

i keep wondering if all fiction could be unhealthy for the brain. human life is so short, a day has so few hours. how can you take one or more of these hours and flee to a place that doesn't exist and disconnect from your own reality.

places that don't exist have begun to repell me. my own reality has so many projects i would like to attend to that i feel gridlocked by not knowing what to do first. desire for fiction might be nothing but pure idleness.

i assume i understand the impulse, though i could be mistaken. when i was a child and were forced to attend child prison (school), the idea of no longer being able to explore the world at my own pace and instead had to spend time with the violent conformist was completely depressing. have them judge my intelligence based on how hard i could force myself to care what they thought was important in their desperate attempt to turn me into a mindless soldier and stomp all my dreams and interests in the process.

i'd flee into video games and at least videogames are interactive. in a video game i can make decisions, in school i was but an inmate without agency. but in a movie about a super hero, there is no interaction, the poor fool who watches this is but the passive recipient of centralized propaganda. i don't see how someone would accept this premise and spend time on this.
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 No.309986

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>>309984
i see this as just more communication in bad-faith happening in this thread. the necessary discomfort with this particular topic however can't drown out the loud absence of any valid ideas that would defend fiction as anything other then irresponsibility.

 No.309989

>>309970
>of the things you are guilty of,
this is literally just you projecting again.
go be a normalfag somewhere else, this board is not for normalfags.

 No.309990

>>309985
Wtf are you even talking about you make absolutely no sense.

 No.310060

thought of a tiny detail i'd like to add to the mountain of ideas that is accumulating against this unhealthy vice of fiction, which even though i gave it every opportunity to be defended starts to look like a puddle of tears to me.

a guy who meditates i believe will be infinite times more interesting then a guy who watches popular contemporary fiction. doesn't that mean it is better not to watch the popular slop? fiction seems to me like fast food. it is designed to seduce you but even though you pay for it with your most precious currency (time that is), it still puts you at a disadvantage and you would be better of eating real food. real food i believe to be living an actual human life in physical reality.

 No.310082

>>309982
Politics are the opposite of fiction, it's just that there are so many people who treat it as if it is fiction these days I can see why you might think otherwise.



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 No.309031[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

whenever you're depressed or sad, come here and draw something using Oekaki. you can draw whatever you want
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 No.310057

>>310042
your art suits well for an indie adlut cartoon

 No.310081

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>>310057
Thank you


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 No.309114[Reply]

>The more I seclude myself the more I long for human connection
>The more I interact with the 3D world the more I just want to be left alone
I literally cannot win in this life
I am always worried about doing the wrong thing, I am always lamenting all of my errors of the past
I hardly actually live
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 No.310017

>>309121
>tulpa
that can be dangerous, I have one and it makes me get into bad situations. Nothing crazy but it forces me to make comments about people who wrong me which can lead to concequences, I tried to control the personality of my tulpa but its been developing for over 10 years now and its totally out of my control. atleast we are both cordial with each other

 No.310030

>>309114
I feel like I'm being crushed from both sides. The mistakes of my past on the one and their consequences in my future on the other. Plus the fear of making more.

 No.310078

>>309114
>The more I seclude myself the more I long for human connection

for me it is the opposite. the more i long for seclusion and the more i try to get it, the more some try to connect with me even though i don't want. it is like i am a science experiment for a group of sadists who keep conspiring to ruin my being alone be pretending to be fellow humans.

 No.310079

i think the magic conjunction of opposites where you can have both is primarily being isolated but creating some kind of art work that can satisfy the desire for human connection

 No.310080

>>310079
The opposite works as well!
You can participate in society and not let it own you!



 No.310062[Reply]

anyone here into studying carl jung by any chance? there is a lot i find fascinating about him but what impressed me the most is that he condensed his mental health strategy into a single word: integtation. implied in this is that each person has unconscious parts and by making those unconscious parts conscious, they no longer sabotage.

to me this is amazing and ballsey. i image most other mental health practitioners would not give you a one word answer to the question of how to have a healthy mind. i image they'd say that this is impossible to answer and that it depends and that an expert is needed.
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 No.310065

Just like wizards above, I never got the "integration" thing

 No.310066

Just like wizards above, I never got the "integration" thing

 No.310067

Yes I've gotten very into him in the past couple years. Active imagination has been the most useful psychological thing I've done.

>>310064
There is no general rule because it depends on individuals. Things like ethnicity, culture, familial background impacts the specifics. As an actual technique the most effective one is active imagination.

The essential thing is just having those situations where you can encounter the unconscious content so you can actually engage with it and come into proper relation with it. Historically this would have been through things like local folk practices and religious rituals, and cultural practices generally. Jung's idea is that the human psyche has things which express those ethnic/religious ideas (archetypes) and that because we are alienated from the traditional means there isn't actually a great vehicle for doing it. He attempts to provide a way for people to do it on their own stuff like:
>Oh well she's trying to find herself and integrate her shadow of course! If the said husband is hurt by this then well, he's got an unexplored and neglected anima!
Largely comes from people trying to simplify it or make it accessible, ultimately you are the only one who can ensure your relation to those complexes is harmonious. There are many ways it can go wrong, inflation because you identify with the unconcious or collective conciousness. Possession by the archetype and having your ego sort of shadowed over by it. Projecting it onto things around you (the most obvious thing for this is succubi liking abusive/domineering men because that's a vehicle for animus projection, and men liking attention whore succubi because they are a vehicle for anima projection)
The opposite is also the case, the butch dyke identifying with her animus, or the fag/tranny identifying with their anima.

The whole idea is these things are at work in us anyway and by getting a clearer relationship with it rather then it just harvesting your energy you can have a proper relationship with it and see how it effects you.

A very simple practical thing can kind of be seen through the popularization of jung through the psychological type stuff. Your inferior function in mbti (or just the opposite of your dominant function in more standard jungian stuff ie if you are the introverted thinkinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.310076

>>310064

>I mean, conceptually it seems logical, but like all if this psychology shit, it falls apart in practice.


you could have taken responsibility and said "i don't know how" but instead you have chosen to make it a theater production and the more unconscious you are, the more you feel the urge to frame reality in terms that would imply that you can not be at fault for it. that immediately jumped at me. even on a somewhat anonymous website you don't feel comfortable being vulnerable. the voice in your head that said "wait no, lets write it in a way where it doesn't sound like i did something wrong!" i believe to be your unconscious.

>How do you "integrate" your subconscious, your shadow, become an "individual"? Jung never really made that super clear, it all vague wishy washy shit that can map unto anything.


-_- well it's a process that takes time, effort and present-mindedness. you keep learning about it, fiding out new details, wondering how it could make sense. you try to find out what the part that takes control of you is trying to tell you. you are asking for a pill, for a code that you just have to execute, you are asking for someone to do the thinking for you instead of walking as far and as fast as your own thoughts can carry you.

there is something inside you, heavily suppressed by education, normality, culture, fear and all kinds of other social mechanisms of violence and you are trying to find out what it tries to tell you. one way the the subconscious tries to communicate with you is through dreams so one part of it is to make a dream journal. i use a simple open source notepad app on the phone were i just have to write the end of the filename and hit a button and it is saved in a folder of my choice.

>Why is the succubus cheating on her husband? Oh well she's trying to find herself and integrate her shadow of course! If the said husband is hurt by this then well, he's got an unexplored and neglected anima!


anything can be made to sound stupid.

>Give me an explicit, unambiguous algorithm for "integration" that we can empirically test and even try out on ourselves and then we can talk. Until then it's just fairy dust bullshit.


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 No.310077

>>310067
>Yes I've gotten very into him in the past couple years. Active imagination has been the most useful psychological thing I've done.

i'm reading Memories, Dreams, Reflections and i am almost at the point where he talks about it for the first time, looking forward to it, the book has been amazing so far. i'm still at the part where he talks about how freud was worried about losing respect. freud the fraud.



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 No.308694[Reply]

Do you think suicide hotlines are helpful? I have been calling them almost everyday without anything improving.
Is there a better alternative?
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 No.309211

>>308735
whatever the reason is these hotlines exist, they basically 'do nothing' except call the cops on some callers

 No.309252

My country basically has shut them down. Mental health awareness fatigue has set in. Its an addictive habit ringing them up anyway.

 No.310073

I've never considered it - maybe I've never been low enough even though I walk around thinking "I should kill myself. I should kill myself." on repeat. My life is still largely tolerable despite being completely empty and greyscale and meaningless so I've never actually made any plans.

There's absolutely nothing appealing to me about calling up some stranger who's only obligated to help because that's their contextualized role. The main reason I want to kill myself is precisely because of how instanced and contextualized and transient everything feels. It's all just vapid transactional junk. I feel like a dotted line silhouette of a human with a transparent fill. Like a GTA pedestrian death marker.

 No.310074

>>310073
I like how you write, you have a way with words.

 No.310075

>>310073
The nature of reality is basically a shattered puzzle whose completition means nothing but you are still forced to take up a piece of it



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 No.309621[Reply]

Does anyone else hate his own body? I hate mine so much, I feel uncomfortable in my own body the whole time, it doesn't matter what I'm doing, I feel dirty, sick, detqched from my body. I want to get out of my body.
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 No.310027

>>310026
>19th
18th*

 No.310050

>>310019
>good comfortable clothings/a style I feel sort of reflects who I am

I always struggled with this. I felt like adopting any sort of style would make me feel like a poser because I don't belong to any social group and am an outsider. I don't want to join or be identified with any particular group.

 No.310052

>>309623
Not for you? So what sort of body would be for you then?

 No.310053

>>310050
>I don't want to join or be identified with any particular group.
Well, don't take it like that, just wear anything that makes you feel comfortable. Now about groups of people, you don't necessarily need to go around there looking for one and joining the one where you feel comfortable.

 No.310070

>>309987
it's just hearing voices
people seem to have a hard time comprehending this condition exists
it's something like amnesia or insomnia, will completely destroy your life



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 No.306265[Reply]

I feel like a lot of people, especially older normies overestimate the abilities of the average guy and the problems that are out there to be solved in real life.

There is this old guy I listened to for the past decade now called Eli the Computer Guy and he often repeats this mantra that a tech professional should go out there pick themselves up by their bootstraps and solve problems for money.
Solve real world problems for money. Provide solutions using your skills. Over and over again while teaching people about making toy cars with a microcomputer or whatever.

Issue is there aren't any problems the average guy is capable of solving that people are able to pay enough for to make it worthwhile.
Maybe I'm low IQ and not creative enough, but that is the point I guess.
The average guy that got a CS or engineering degree and is now doing menial tasks at a big corporation isn't going to create groundbreaking solutions because everything worth doing, all the low hanging fruit and obvious problem/solution pairs have been done to death, patented to death or worse.

Big tech is so big that they offer a solution so refined, so solid, so cheap that no mom-and-pop shop will ever give you the time of day if those even exist.
The average normie is quite content with a phone which is basically a toy-ified computer gadget.
They don't need more.
Most even run their own little business from it using a handful of cheap/free big tech tools that if you were to offer a homebrew solution for it would cost an arm and leg to maintain without economies of scale.

What does a network tech that wants to "solve problems" do aside from running cable? You could lease a 10G fiber line from a big ISP and sublet it by wiring up a small village I guess?
Then the government gives a huge fucking grant to big ISP and they just wire up every small village themselves leaving you with nothing.
If you are lucky you can become a subcontractor doing menial tasks for the big ISP in a set region.

What does the average coder do now? Especially with the future of them limiting hardware/software access? Every app is made that a normie needs. Kinda like with websites.
Every normie uses less than a dozen of them, mostly through apps…
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 No.308460

The average guy who has been successful has almost 99.99% of the time been helped by family or friends in someway. You have to make money to earn money. You typically cant just throw yourself out there and expect to succeed.

It's what you do with your resources and how you use them that make you survive.

 No.310021

>>308460
>family
The family pill is absolute.
Genetics, family, environment. Nothing else matters.

 No.310058

>Issue is there aren't any problems the average guy is capable of solving that people are able to pay enough for to make it worthwhile.

The totality of American life can be provided by walmart. Pretty hard to compete with that. The USD is the world's reserve currency so we can import goods from abroad cheaply as our currency is always in demand abroad and inflates more slowly due to the high usage globally. You can't outcompete giant corporations exploiting third world wage slave labor.

The only real options you have are for jobs that we would have called "domestic servitude" back in the day. IE, taking care of the grounds/lives of rich people. You can be a landscaper or a house cleaner or a dog sitter or some other service catering to rich people.

60% of the spending in the economy today is done by the top 10% of income earners. This means we are all literally serving the wealthy. Trickle down economics has been cemented as the status quo economic policy going forward. They give the working class the bare minimum the working class will accept. Always have, always will. This means it's a perpetual race to the bottom for the working class as they attempt to climb over one another like crabs in a bucket to get the scraps being handed out by the wealthy.

 No.310059

>Issue is there aren't any problems the average guy is capable of solving that people are able to pay enough for to make it worthwhile.

how is that the same then

>There isn't much left to do


the conclusion i draw from this is that money is an evil system almost entierly benefitting those who have it and don't need to work for it. money is the worst but yall normies don't hear me.

 No.310061

>>310059
>the conclusion i draw from this is that money is an evil system

there is tons of stuff to do but not for money. in the future there are like 3 companies and they are the only ones with money and everyone has to work for them.

i will not work for them…



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 No.307023[Reply]

This is the classic "Suicide General", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards.

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 No.309998

How likely am I to survive if I jump off a bridge 33 metres high? Could I at least lose consciousness on impact?

 No.309999

>>309998
Last time I jumped off a bridge, I died just fine. But it was 33.80 meters high, so your 33.00m bridge might be too short. Try it out and report back your findings.

 No.310000

>>308806
Don't bother with hanging, just build a charcoal gasifier and poison yourself with carbon monoxide. In a sealed room there is no chance you will survive.

 No.310001

>>309758
Yes have had it in my right ear for 5 years
I got wax removal done at the doctors recently and it went down by 75%
Feeling a lot less miserable
>>309758
>>309758

 No.310055

I just want this bullshit to end
going with partial hanging
fuck living like this



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