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 No.309747[Reply]

Sometimes I wish went to the mental hospital. Maybe things would’ve turned out differently. Maybe.
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 No.309833

>>309829
this is a massive cope but i commend you resolve

 No.309834

>Because it's what babies and distressed children do as a result of them not having the cognitive abilities to rationalize why they're feeling bad
So if someone gets an infection and goes to the doctor to have their disease cured, they're a distressed child?
>Yep! How, pray tell, can you even conceive of a way in which anyone [b[BESIDES[/b] yourself can possibly heal your own mental anguish?
Uhh, by sharing it?
>Bad comparison; everybodies' bones get damaged and heal the exact same way.
Nah, it's not a bad comparison at all. And no, bones do not get shattered and require the exact same steps to heal, there are dozens of factors to consider. The same goes for any disease
>that which comes from within. External psychoptherapy is pseudo-psychotherapy
If all the answers to everything you've ever imagined always came from within, people wouldn't ever feel the need to share knowledge, share thoughts and emotions and help each other. You can't do everything on your own. Historically, if everyone did nothing but trust their inner monologue for everything, there would be no progress or civilization in any form, everyone would just be a total mute for 80 years, record no knowledge, achieve nothing groundbreaking and then die for nothing
>If the psychotherapist says stuff like "Don't worry, always remember happy day", and that cures the man
That's not what happens in psychotherapy. You can't even use that example for the purpose of a simplified comparison because it's not even remotely what happens during psychotherapy

 No.309837

>>309792
Maybe, just maybe

 No.309858

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>>309834
>So if someone gets an infection and goes to the doctor to have their disease cured, they're a distressed child?
What level of mental retardation are you operating on? Do you not understand basic English? You've missed the point so entirely that you've strawmanned the argument in to one you're actually able to refute. The entire point of that segment of the discussion is to differentiate "sad feels in my brain" from "actual physical damage to the body", and how the treatment protocols for each aren't simply interchangeable. If you believe those to be the same thing fundamentally and therefore that they can be treated the exact same way - with casts and pills - then you may as well double your dose of whatever SSRIs and other feel-good drugs you're taking so that people on the internet don't need to have their time wasted by your inability to think in simple abstracts.
>Uhh, by sharing it?
That's not what was asked. I asked for treatment. Treatment beyond the therapist saying some basic reassuring shit. You again also missed the point that words can only go so far, and the ears of the listener can only take in so much. Unless the psychotherapist has felt the exact same depression that her client is feeling at the time, and the client manages to express his anguish with total eloquence and completeness, there will always be massive gaps between how the man feels and what the doctor knows. But again, regardless of how well an understanding forms, it still begs the question of exactly what the fuck can psychotherapists do to cure depression?
>bones do not get shattered and require the exact same steps to heal, there are dozens of factors to consider.
Actual bathtub shitter autism on display. A REAL DOCTOR HAS XRAYS, MRIs, BLOOD TESTS, AND YEARS OF HEALING THE SAME BONE all to give him the answer as to what needs to be done. A "mental health doctor" has the current facial expression and selection of sad words to work with when determining the severity and reasoning behind her client's depression. The real doctor can fulfill his duty to heal the bone consistently. The psychotherapist's chance of success is in the hands of the patient, and his ability to compose his feelings and expose his inner traumas or whatever.
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 No.309864

>>309858
So confirmed you really are a complete and total retard and a shit for brains nigger with nothing to back your claims? That seems to be the only veritable conclusion here, seeing that you're an ESL thirdie and even this guy right here >>309833 recognized just how fucking retarded and genuinely stupid you are, lol


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 No.309759[Reply]

i keep wondering if all fiction could be unhealthy for the brain. human life is so short, a day has so few hours. how can you take one or more of these hours and flee to a place that doesn't exist and disconnect from your own reality.

places that don't exist have begun to repell me. my own reality has so many projects i would like to attend to that i feel gridlocked by not knowing what to do first. desire for fiction might be nothing but pure idleness.

i assume i understand the impulse, though i could be mistaken. when i was a child and were forced to attend child prison (school), the idea of no longer being able to explore the world at my own pace and instead had to spend time with the violent conformist was completely depressing. have them judge my intelligence based on how hard i could force myself to care what they thought was important in their desperate attempt to turn me into a mindless soldier and stomp all my dreams and interests in the process.

i'd flee into video games and at least videogames are interactive. in a video game i can make decisions, in school i was but an inmate without agency. but in a movie about a super hero, there is no interaction, the poor fool who watches this is but the passive recipient of centralized propaganda. i don't see how someone would accept this premise and spend time on this.
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 No.309856

>>309840

>You THINK if someone wants to be healthy they would stop any and all fiction.

and why wouldn't i? can you come up with a good reason for why i would be wrong?

>Funnily enough,

cmon you unconscious midwit, don't drag humor's good name into the mud just because you feel like you need dramatic figgures of speech to give your words the oompf that your generic lack of arguments leave to be desired…

>listening to audiobooks or podcasts while outside is something I myself would consider "unhealthy" or at the very least suboptimal.

you have a bit a point there and i already practice what you talk about but sometimes when i am eager to listen to something, i don't feel like i should limit myself because you believe it is always better to idol worship nature sounds. especially when i am in the disgusting city with the car noise and the planes and helicopters being a nuissance it is nice to be in deep attention to an audiobook. i don't use public transport anymore but if i did, i'd hate to listen to the generic unconscious people talking and would be thankful for anything but the trivial normie noises.

>It's just falling into the trap of trying to do multiple things at once that modernity funnels everyone into, instead of being present with the sights, sounds and sensations of your life

i meditate so i believe in this and already practice this plenty. at the same time i am inventing stuff to do the exact opposite. i am currently trying to find out how many things i can juggle at the same time. how many things i can keep informing myself on, how many interests i can really have and keep making progress in each and my current pre-mature conclusion is: somewhere between 100 and 1000 things. 100 was easy, currently almost at 400 and that seems like a bit much. i expect to notice when i reach my limit and when i have to reduce though. this is me trying to learn from all my failed attempts of time management and being unable to use a calendar to create something tailored to my personal creation process.

>In that same line of thought, reading fiction and being engrossed in a story that grips you is a worthwhile experience.
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 No.309859

>>309849
>they dont point at anything real or important anyway, religions are basically entertainment for the masses that gives them easy answers.

you again with the proud authoritarian pretend-certainty representing the success in disabeling your critical faculties the violence of the education system has inflicted upon you… that you use as a platform to make leaps of faith in which you pretend to understand something without doubt you know nothing about. i resent how comfortable you are in your ignorance. have some intellectual humility. i don't know much myself but it didn't took me too long to find something that prevents me from assuming your level of arrogance.

>>i guess you don't know how to make yourself feel good
>I do, with entertainment.
my estimation of the chance that you have found the spiritual wealth inside of you that all the religions try to point at, even if they do involve all the fiction of group-dynamic theater: 0%. entertainment is trash compared to just effortless feeling complete because you realize that it is your birthright and you have everything inside you to self-generate happiness. you use entertainment to fill a hole that i closed up myself. you have spiritual malnutrition and you resort to survive with prepacked survival food of entertainment. if you already felt complete, you wouldn't hope for the scraps of pleasure that fiction may or may not provide for you.

>and yet you still ended up here with people like me who do the exact opposite so what good was this?
you don't respect yourself it seems. i guess that's unimportant to you and you only care when others respect you.

>at the end of your life you will die regardless and whatever garbage you stuffed your brain with will be gone forever.
the problem with this statement is that healthy people don't see it that way so when you say
>my health is very good but that doesnt matter overall anyway,
i am inclined not to believe you. i picture you overweight. i can't know for sure but how much you struggle with holding your weight mentally to me represents a strong indication that you have the same trouble physically.

 No.309860

>>309850
>What are the consequences of someone coming home from their job and sitting down to read a novel or play a game for an hour or two before going to bed?

the consequences would be losing precious time in the difficult task to live a human life to the fullest and potentially accepting unacceptable conditions of a soulcrushing job that people should pay way better so you could work it way less.

what would be the consequences of you instead of numbing yourself with fiction trying to fill a hole that is bottomless you would dare to live the life of your dreams and go for what you REALly care for and master everything your inner child was curious about instead of resorting to the sad consolation price that is fiction. what if you undertook the difficult mental process of getting in touch with all the parts of you, not just the easily accessible convenient socially acceptable FICTIONAL parts of yourself that you hide behind.

>the point of art isn't to be of practical value. It's a form of human expression, something that is somewhat fundamental to our (maybe not yours? lol) species going back thousands of years.

yeah you could look at what other people have done sure why not, but not all life long. there is a superior approach to this though, which is becoming the art, making everything the art, having your entire day be the art and make new art all day every day, compose fresh sentences every chance you communicate instead of just repeating normalcy back at normal people. that's like typing every single letter yourself instead of just copy pasting default sentences. embracing individuality and leave the save limits the group wants you to assume while they are getting ready to sacrifice you as cannon fodder.

>You are twisting a normal form of human interaction into something maladaptive to prop yourself up as superior.
i consider normality to be the twist, of you not bothering to question the cruel cultural past of humanity and how it made you end up in the current gene pool and what a curse on humanity you might be by remaining unconscious in this regard.

>I'm not 'casting my line in the pond of fiction hoping to catch an emotion', I'm doing it to spend some time enjoying a world someone ePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.309861

>>309850
>I don't believe in following others templates for self improvement.

why, you believe in following others in every other regard, why when it comes to this you make an exception all of the sudden. but regardless of you pretending to care about agency when clearly it is an afterthrought to you while you repeat the "humans are a social creature" narrative, you also don't care about improvement and you don't care about self improvement. this seems like a theater production, which i can appreciate in spirit. if you want to be more independent i applaud you but i don't think you want to. you want safe numb conformity and brainrot.

 No.309863

>>309860
You words ring with the flacid, muffled frequency of a community college communist.


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 No.309794[Reply]

Another Evil under the Sun Edition. You of many.

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 No.309839

ill probably have junk food pretty soon
it's been a while so a nice feeling is waiting for me

 No.309841

>>309838
I eat twice per day, so my breakfast is also my lunch, which usually consists in cheese with carrots, vegetables with chicken/turkey or codfish/salmon or eggs, gluten free pasta and mixed fruits with soy pudding

 No.309842

>>309838
today it was porridge with boiled chicken meat

 No.309857

>>309838
I had a cold coffee and a apple strudel

 No.309862

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How do you deal with isolation? My parents split and sold our family home, so I was pretty much forced to find my own place. Even though I didn't speak to my siblings or parents too often, I can't help but miss coming back to a full house after work. I always thought it would be easy and that I wanted to be alone, but I guess going from living with people my entire life to suddenly being completely alone screwed with my head. It is so quiet here I feel like I am going to go insane.


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 No.309621[Reply]

Does anyone else hate his own body? I hate mine so much, I feel uncomfortable in my own body the whole time, it doesn't matter what I'm doing, I feel dirty, sick, detqched from my body. I want to get out of my body.
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 No.309847

I got fat due to binge eating from depression in highschool. I fasted and worked out to lose all the weight I had gained but my body was damaged I have disgusting stretch marks that feel itchy and gross to touch and loose saggy skin, when I realized there was nothing I could do to reverse the damage to my body I became distraught and horrified with my body eventually I put weight back on. I hate my body so much

 No.309848

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i love my body, while everything around me crumbled and every friendship vanished it has been a miraculous source of strength and unstoppableness. it has been loyal, supportive and pleasant even before i learned what difference proper breathing breathing, proper food and deeper levels of nervous system connection have on the human body. i have fasted countless times, i believe in it wholeheartedly. everyone interested in fasting, please feel encouraged to pursue the interest, it is worth it just in terms of the mental clarity that fighting and winning against the temptation will bring into your life. i practice prevention, i am never sick, i rarely feel bad and if i do, it is usually because females behave horribly towards me, conspire against me and abuse me. i can't be in love with my body in public because females in their limitless aggression will detect the emotional state and try to violently intercept and capture the emotional energy and nourish themselves from it like the vampires they are.

i have read most of the thread. i have been mocked for my choice of food relentlessly by people who now feel like the people in this thread: miserable. i tried to warn people, i tried to spread the word how good what i have is, almost nobody cared. here is the next thing you will regret calling me a quack about once the knowledge finally trickles down in to the sewers where it can reach you: you think the human body can regenerate 5% or 10%. it is more like 60%, 80%, 95% of what can be healed.

 No.309852

>>309830
>tension in my muscles
Man I hate it so much! It happens to me in my legs, mainly when I'm lying in bed.

 No.309854

>>309852
Right? Lately my left quad in particular hurts when going up stars sometimes, like it's tight and straining to generate force. And the muscles between my shoulder blades have been very tight as well recently which is really uncomfortable. I think that one might be due to my sleeping position or bad pillow, since you mentioned the bed as well.

 No.309855

maybe if you change your body into a female body you'll get happier


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 No.309657[Reply]

I try and try like I really do to be a wizard but unfortunately keep heading into becoming a crab. As someone who can't afford to NEET and will just die on the side of the street if I do so, I have to unfortunately go out into the real world and try to get a job and maintain a "social life".

And that is the worst part about it, I simply don't get it, a friend of mine wanted to meet another friend and he wanted me to go to club with me, now why did I agree? Because I wanted a referral for a job. Apart from that clubs in my country are horrendous for sub-3 men like me because they don't let people like me enter because of "dress code" when in reality you look ugly, short, singly, and the whole nine yards.

I got a referral so that's a good thing if it materialises into a job. But what I saw in club is not something that I have not known but to see it happen it still caught me like a deer in the headlights, basically I knew that this friend of friend is going to be a piece of shit because he is a club-goer.

But when I saw him literally just go up to a bitch and started making out with her continuously then going to the toiled and then coming back, and then actually showing me his Instagram and Snapchat about fucking a succubus 5 times one day, and fucking 10 different succubi in 10 days and sharing nudes on Telegram by starting out with the message "New Pussy around my Dick.".

God bless him for giving me the referral which probably won't materialise into a job but for some reason I wish I never met him, I saw a weird kind of primal expression on the faces of succubi, the man was 6'4 and had a chiseled face. And when I came back home I swear to god, I couldn't drive the car straight. Like I was about to crash 3 times, not because I was driving fast, but I was so pissed and my mind was just thinking about like what the fuck? I had to struggle for every single ounce of thing in life, and there are guys like this who just do what? Fucking exist?

Honestly, at that point years of thinking "I am never going to think about cunts" and months of trying to be a fucking monk only to enter a state of ragebait, I swear to god, when I returned in the night I was awake for a total of 48 hours just raging like a mad man and screaming into the damn mattress. Like what the fuck? How in the blue hell is it so easy for these kind of people? And this guy has cheated on every single cunt who was his GF. And has fucked over 40 succubi litePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.309785

>>309771
>celibate
someone who is a porn addict and masturbated everyday shouldn't be using that word
it's like those females who believe they can be born again virgins and stuff

 No.309789

>>309785
SHUT UP DEMONIC FUCKING NORMIE YOU JUST ASSUME ASSUME ASSUME ASSHOLE. I DON'T WATCH PORN, GO BE A CRAB ELSEWHERE. FUCKING NORMIE

 No.309826

>>309657
it's unfair that you should have to become a shut-in, i will not stand for it. clubs are disgusting places, there have to be places where you can exist.

 No.309827

>>309684
>i feel like ive gotten slower and stupider

you need exercise, healthy food and interests to practice and gain experience in.

build a piece of furniture for yourself and try eating a new vegetable. don't eat pizza and watch entertainment, that will only degenerate you.

 No.309853

>>309827
>you need exercise, healthy food and interests to practice and gain experience in
this is called normie advice precisely because only normies have access to the ingredients.
>exercise
no motivation to do so when you don't leave your home
>healthy food
requires knowledge that you're too stupid to acquire
>practice and gain experience
only possible for normalfag. if i could practice and gain experience, and i don't mean a physical possibility, but rather the mental ability to do so, i wouldn't be where i am in the first place.


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 No.309031[Reply]

whenever you're depressed or sad, come here and draw something using Oekaki. you can draw whatever you want
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 No.308343[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The Time God does not forget nor forgive edition. You will do this again.

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 No.309810

>>309804
>liver is full of post processed body junk
prove it, faggot.

 No.309817

i'm thinking about all those graduates i've seen when i was in college, and what i remember is that all of the basically suffered. maybe it's just that i only paid attention to them, but it's almost like not suffering before you turn 30 is physiologically impossible. you just suffer by definition, without reason. angst? anxiety? fear? burn out? i don't care. all i care about is that's it's utterly unbearable. i don't know what to do.

 No.309819

I have some doxxers living rent free in my head. How do I kick them out without payback? Not because I don't want to but because I can't reach to them.

 No.309843

>>309746
Glass of water and a muesli bar.

 No.309845

I've felt suicidal since 14 years old high school was so miserable and dark for me, I had social anxiety and hid in the bathroom I never made eye contact with anyone I always looked at the floor. I believed that I would kill myself before high school ended but I had no method and just thinking of suicide made me scared. Now I'm 25 I never attempted suicide I don't even own anything to do it with. I worked a menial soul crushing job for a while I felt getting a job and being a adult might be what I need but I detested working and went back to neeting. I feel hopeless I never want to work, my brain is foggy, I'm tired all the time. I have anhedonia, I feel like I'm in a dream, I'm not scared to kill myself anymore just too lazy too comfortable rooting away. I feel guilty that I'm just a burden to my mother and that I will hurt her when I kill myself. Depression use to have a comfortable melancholic feeling for me, I loved listening to music which reflected my mental state. That comforting feeling does not exist anymore, I always feel restless every dream I have is a nightmare, I know it can't go on like this, as much as hate myself I really don't deserve to live like this I enjoy nothing every day I just surf the web trying to make the hours pass, I don't play games anymore my attention span is too short. my mother does not deserve to have a leeching son. I wish I lived in America so I could just shoot myself that seems so easy. I wish for a heart attack or something


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 No.309743[Reply]

I'm very depressed and I will also develop chaos in my mind so I don't care about everyone anymore and I will destroy everything why should I be a fool who can only blame myself while others can be happy without being able to feel how crazy this world is I will destroy everything and if this world ends and everything is destroyed then I will be a living witness that I am the one who knows how cruel this world is and how unfair all of this is everyone everything everything must have an end if it doesn't end then I will always be in hell or at least be locked up as rotting flesh
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 No.309775

>>309774
>bro why do you think dictionaries exist

not for you to stop thinking, give your condition a label and be done with it.

 No.309776

>>309775
labels help cope, though change with time until you find the right one. what's wrong with that?

 No.309783

>>309776

labels dont help, they hinder. they are used by people to dismiss the problem and abandon responsibility, which likely is the only path to healing. you don't have depression, you have something way more specific, personal and complicated. when you call it depression, you let yourself be seduced by the diagnostic language; it's often hollow promises and the undignified preemptive certainty they hide behind. i say do the oposite: describe your condition as crude, unhinged, precise and accessible to others as you can. your name about your condition should be so easy to understand that when you tell it to someone who has no idea about it, understands it the first time you mention it without having to ask fir details.

"i thought i had to fart the other day but i actually shat my pants with liquid shit a little" now that's how i talk about my most recenr condition, without shame! not using this ridiculous gatekept medical language.

 No.309788

>>309783
so i have a very specific, personal kind or depression, that is actually a bit comorbid with my overall inclination to being anxious?

 No.309791

>>309788
>so i have a very specific, personal kind or depression, that is actually a bit comorbid with my overall inclination to being anxious?

i can never know what you have because i can't feel what you feel so what could my opinion possibly be worth. nothing. i can look at your approach though. when you tell me with your chest sticking out all proud and identified: "i have depression!" then i don't know how that feels like, that tells me nothing. the term is like a shotgun and hits everything, you want something that only hits what you actually have precisely. you know the term is too much of a blanket term to be useful by the fact that you would receive 100 different answers if you asked 100 depressed people about their condition and not the same answer 100 times.

calling it comorbid and anxiety is at least a step in the right direction but you are once again committing what i in my pieced-together understanding of mental health believe to be a mistake: you just repeat medical labels as if they meant anything. what i believe to be way better would be to invent/sculpt/compose/craft/sketch a way to describe what is actually going on so that when a kid in the park asks you what is wrong with you, you could tell it in a way that makes sense to the kid and then the kid in the park might have a way better idea on what to do about it then any doctor ever because the kid did not have it's humanity pranked, whipped and tortured out of it in medschool.

most importantly though, bothering to be precise about it will give you better ideas on what to try to make things better and the most healing the most helping will be what you do to yourself, not what will be done onto you by others. don't wait to be rescued, nobody is coming, you do the rescuing.


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 No.308814[Reply]

How do you deal with extreme public humiliation and a destroyed reputation? Shits suicide fuel
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 No.309651

Diddy was arrested, accused of various crimes, had a video of him beating his ex leaked online, people learned that he has a cuckhold kink, he was found guilty of paying male prostitutes and on top of that people learned that he has a small penis. DJ Vlad said it's about 3 inches. I saw the video, but I can't say for sure.

He's a multimillionaire. That helps with public humiliation and destroyed reputation. Being rich.

 No.309655

>>309651
hes black

 No.309656

>>309655
how do you know?

 No.309668

It's almost impossible to have a destroyed reputation in today's world. People are too damn distracted to keep track of everyone's scandals. Just move somewhere else and people who know whatever you're worried about won't know. Only way that doesn't work is if you're famous, and if you're famous you don't need to worry about reputation even more. Famous people can get away with so much shit and people will still worship them. You just can't also be ugly or else you end up getting harvey winesteined. He could have kept doing what he was doing if he just lost 40 pounds.

 No.309773

>>308814
>How do you deal with extreme public humiliation and a destroyed reputation? Shits suicide fuel

social status is an illusory game. you are somewhat pre-programmed to mind being considered of lower social status but the world in which this cultural system made sense has not been existing for hundreds/thousands of years. this is industrial mass consumerist cattle dystopia and you don't have to mind being unpopular or lonely because those states merely represent the opinions of fools and your only concern should be not to be one of the fools. if you ever felt being popular and in high demand, you'd hate it so much that you would not lament the absence of it. most people don't know how lucky they are never to have been popular because it would invalidate their entire social framework. they would hate it so much, they'd wonder why they ever cared about anyone if this is what results from it.


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 No.307023[Reply]

This is the classic "Suicide General", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards.

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 No.308726

>>308564
They don't need to. They can give you enough proteins, fats and vitamins through IV injection indefinitely.

 No.308806

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Any ideas on how to commit suicide by hanging? I wonder what sort of rope, knot, techique and place would be the best. I heard that with a good arrangement you can snap your neck and die painlessly, but honestly since it seems to involve so much technique I tend to think that just regular hanging could be better. I'm only afraid of fucking that up too and ending up as a veggie or suffocating for two hours before passing out.

 No.308808

>>308806
I have experience in this. I've successfully killed myself several times via hanging. You need to read "The Peaceful Blackpill Handbook", "The Art of Not Living", and "Fun With A Razorblade by Big Gay Andrew Loomis". Once you do that you can ask ChatGPT for the best rope and height configuration for your IQ. Then you'll need to apply for a suicide license and pray to g*d that your therapist hasn't told your psychiatrist anything that would suggest you're only suicidal for a reason that SSRIs could instead cure. There is 0% chance the Demiurge will let you die if you don't hang yourself exactly as prescribed. You'll end up as a vegetable, or worse, a fruit.

 No.309327

How do you set up a timed message to emergency services to collect your body? The hotline doesn't take text messages. I don't want a family member to find me. I really have no idea here; this is the only major hole in my plan.

 No.309758

Does anyone here have tinnitus? This might be what convinces me to end it. I can't even focus on my thoughts. It feels like I have lost an entire section of my brain. I can't sleep.


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