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 No.303736[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

You will still be stuck browsing this thread in 2026 edition

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 No.308098

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I feel bad about being a shut in alcoholic loser that does nothing, but I've made several attempts to labour and actually do the normalfag thing and I've just seen the whole thing as just fucking absolutely loaded. A swindle almost.

The first example is the local chicken processing plant for the country. I did nightshift there for a month. 80% of the labour is filipino/indian/samoan migrants on temp visas and the other 20% are eccentric weirdos and mentally retarded people, and me (an eccentric weird). The job paid 20% more than I collected on NEETbux, and 10-15% when you accounted for driving to and from work, and within a week I was in chronic pain. Of course, if I had to do it to live, I'd do it, but paying quite literally minimum wage and so close to the NEETbux rate, I slinked off.

I just see local people either in jew daycare jobs, boomers living it large with their accumulated wealth, or the 20% of young people lucky enough to have a proper career, or they're completely checked out. There's one guy I went to school with in my school year, he was a complete normalfag. He's now stacking shelves at the supermarket and he looks on the verge of shooting up the place every time I walk past him. I just get this sense of complete resentment terror from him. I don't mean it as an exaggeration that like a third to half of my graduating class are having problems in life? Even some of the high earning ones are checked out.

It's a peculiar situation in my country where they provide you enough to live just rotting away, any full time job you get at the bottom level is basically the same as that, all the while they flood the country with migrant labour. Maybe I'm just a lazy spoiled cunt like the boomers say, but it does just seem rational to check out and collect NEETbux when the difference between the two is so similar. I checked the wages for orchid work, factory nightshift, and all the other physically brutal jobs, and have found they've flatlined since basically the 1990s. The more physically abusive jobs used to pay more, that's why people did them.

 No.308099

>>308098
I cannot imagine something worse for your health than long term physical labour, it literally kills your flesh and bones, no wonder we let migrants do it because it's extremely consuming.
The best thing people like us can achieve is premium bux also known as full disability pension which in western countries varies from $800 to $2500.
I feel no shame from parasitizing a corrupt system that allows slavery.

 No.308102

>>308098
only a 10% increase in pay for ALL the hours spent working, all the stress and general issues that come along with it. I swear people must NEETBUX as much as possible. If jobs were giving like 5x the money I'd happily show up. My used up old hag of an auntie makes MORE than I do being a welfare queen with 9 kids and I work 60 hours a week.

 No.308117

>>308102
>My used up old hag of an auntie makes MORE than I do being a welfare queen with 9 kids and I work 60 hours a week.
And the governments of the world wonder why more people (normies and wizards alike) are dropping out of society.

 No.308119

>>308099
If they stopped bringing in migrant labour and got rid of NEETbux, those shit factory jobs would unironically pay an upper middle class lifestyle (Like many used to) and jew daycare jobs wouldn't exist. The class system in the west would be completely thrown out of balance and boomers and foids alike would suffer.

How many people are actually physically and emotionally capable of those physically brutal nightshift jobs? Remove people over 50, remove succubi, remove anyone who has the skills to aspire to anything better, and you're left with not enough people to fill the roles. They're socially essential roles, every serious country needs its local chicken processing plant, quarries and toilet paper production facilities because that shit is way too expensive to ship internationally.


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 No.302003[Reply]

My rooster that I've had for ten years, who I consider my best friend and love more than anyone else, died Wednesday night. He was my only friend. He lived in the house with me and was the only thing that would make me feel better when the rest of my life would weigh down on me. I would go hold him and the rest of life would disappear and that would be all that would matter. I keep forgetting now for a few moments, that I can't go see him and hold him anymore.

I have had depression for my whole life adolescence onward, and I was afraid even 5-6 years ago of this day and thought it would be unsurvivable, and now it's here, and I do want to die. I dont want to live in a world where he isn't here with me. The initial shock has worn off and it's sinking in that my best friend is gone, and I'm not going to see him again. My mother is the only other positive presence in my life, because she knew how much I love him. She has stage 4 cancer and it's still unclear if she's going to survive it or not. She's essentially the only reason why I have not shot myself already. She was never abusive or cruel to me, so I couldn't do that to her even though I don't want to live anymore.

Did you ever have an animal that meant this much to you? People are cruel and petty and small. If an animal loves you it's genuine, they dont have ulterior motives or social performance.
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 No.305604

Sorry for your loss. My dog died a few years back and it kills me. It's difficult.

 No.307522

>>305604
it doesn't get easier over time either. You may find you think about it actively less over time, but the pain is just as bad and you relive it

 No.307527

>>305604
do you have a pic of your dog?

 No.308090

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Coming up on a year now. It feels like it happened a month ago and I don't feel any better. Nothing can fill the hole he left

 No.308118

I have a cat. I love them, they are comfy animals. But I fucking hate normgroids, they are sadistic fucks that hate animals, trees and life in general There is a pregnant street cat in my neighbourhood I stop by to pet occasionally. I gave her food today and yesterday and my rude, bossy bitch of a neigboor scolded me for petting a cat that trampled something flowers or whatever, I didn't understood what the cat's fault was but she absolutely hates that cat. I put a bowl with food and water and I believe that bitch will throw it away. I wish I could help the cat out more but I already have a uncastrated male cat with kidney failure whom I must treat everyday and my budget can't handle more, especially with kittens.I can't even leave the house to give them away because of my situation. I can only leave food hoping that cat will eat it.


 No.307994[Reply]

The day of Armageddon has inched towards me in just 2 hours. I completed a worthless degree in IT, by completed, I mean gave the final exams of the final semester just 2 hours ago, and I returned home, which is in a third world country. And the results are as I expected, as a matter of fact, when I came back I could literally feel the tension inside my house mounting.

I was expecting one day or another, for this to happen but it's surreal how quickly it has happened, my parents had a massively heated argument with me, and honestly, it took me a few years back when my parents used to abuse the hell out of me, I can for some reason, literally feel the terror of abuse in the lower half of my spine and in my kidneys.

The question is obvious, which is what will I do next? Because I am about to graduate completely unemployed, in this little third world country, and of course the parents aren't happy, as it is in the nature of everyone maybe mine as well to be pissed seeing a man wake up at 9AM and ask for breakfast, and take it back to the Air Conditioned room, the resentment is off the charts for obvious reason of what my parents would consider "stealing" from them because I am not paying back in any meaningful labour, seems like I will have to wake up at 6AM in the morning tomorrow and not use Air Conditioner at all.

It was honestly, a massive argument, I just few hours ago got back to my house from a scorching 42C temperature and now I am being cooked internally. At this point, I have started to prepare for the worst, any day in "my" house could be my last, I am trying to gather all the IDs, gather all the documents for eventual kick, and a kick in a country like this is extremely close to death. Certainly slightly different from other countries where you can live in your car, given that in this country the car ownership rate is 8%. So there goes living in a Honda Fit out of the Window.

I must get a job, I have tried getting a job online, from microtasks, to annotation for OneForma, to trying to act like an agent for PornStars online, to chat on their behalf, and I have earned no more and no less than 0 in any currency of this planet. The jig is coming to an end. While I am not familiar with the thoughts of life in the Christian Theology because I wasn't born in a Christian Family, but my Judgement, rather Execution is near. Fuck me. There is very real chance that I will have to take a permanent dip into a Holy River. I meaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.308107

>>308056
>large segments of the population will starve to death
not gonna happen, the UN will organize famine relief and there will be a refugee crisis, where large numbers of Indian migrants will be accepted to western Europe, not unlike what happen to the Syrians.

 No.308109

>>308107
Honestly, don't worry, with Syria it was closer Europe. India is far away and Europe even the liberals and left are tightening the laces of the boot. So rest assured, I doubt that Europe will take 1 refugee from India from these sort of conditions. Besides you'd be surprised to know just how competent India is in terms of surveillance and intelligence gather and just how unmotivated your average Indian is. It make come as a shock to some but India has more cameras per head than China in cities.

 No.308110

>>308103
>Jains, where they took the best men of the country, it's warriors, and forced them to be monks and celibates (…)
If anything this to me indicates that genetics aren't the sole determining factor in how society/behaviors get encoded. You have essentially the same race of people capable of embodying a broad spectrum of cultural values over the years. If everyone was a devout Jain India would probably look a lot different today. Maybe there is a genetic floor and ceiling as to which kinds of values any given race can adapt, I don't know. But genetically even the lazy, glutenous Western boomers here come from a lineage of warriors and savages who were lean, mean killing machines.
I'm by far not an expert but to me genetic/environmental mix seems to be most likely. And the environment in the sense of culture and society also is subject to selection pressures. So perhaps the current Indian culture is a result of being better adapted in some way to whatever pressures India was facing back then, only now it's become entirely self-defeating and a behavioral sink. I heard for example the perspective that these Jugaad-type behaviors that make everything worse on the whole might make sense if you are living under a system of imposed colonialism where it is your only way of not cooperating with the system without facing harsh punishment.
That is actually an interesting question - the guy who reads up on India said that colonialism was generally well accepted in India since it at least created a functioning order instead of the constant free-for-all that exists outside of it in normal Indian culture. Do you know anything about that?

 No.308112

>>308110
>I heard for example the perspective that these Jugaad-type behaviors that make everything worse on the whole might make sense if you are living under a system of imposed colonialism where it is your only way of not cooperating with the system without facing harsh punishment.
Very Correct observation. I am surprised that the word "Jugaad" has went mainstream, but really Jugaad translates to makeshift, I think the other thing where this kind of makeshifting is done is because of extreme frugality and economic conservatism that the generation before millennials practiced because they simply didn't had enough resources to do so, but even when they do now, they refuse to stop this.
>the guy who reads up on India said that colonialism was generally well accepted in India since it at least created a functioning order instead of the constant free-for-all that exists outside of it in normal Indian culture. Do you know anything about that?
Depends on who you ask, for the majority of Hindu Population in a weird way that was a relief from the continuous rule of the Mughal Empire and the Empires of these types which had nothing but venom in their hearts for the Hindu Population of the country. And let me just say this, it was so bad that it made the British Rule look good. The other thing is that it has been almost 80 years which means that the oldest man in India if he were to be 110 years old, has seen just 31 years of British Rule, while the median age was lower back then so people don't really remember the British Rule in a weird way even though it was relatively recent than Mughal Rule but it's largely because they still see the people who represented that Mughal Empire in India, so tensions unfortunately continue, today but we hardly see any Brits here.

But I will have to be honest with you here, most of the people around me and even the said descendants of Mughal Empire abhorred the British Rule, some people (a minority) praise it but in a twisted way like I do, I think that it's actually amazing that British Left India with which is probably the most robust Postal Service in the World, new Canals, and railways system which is frequently alluded to by people worldwide. But the fact remains was that these systems were not charity but were instead designed to have a better organisePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.308116

>>308107
What happened with Sri Lanka is that the IMF and World Bank rushed in and gave them gibs to restart their agricultural industry in a more free-market fashion. I think it was something like a 5 billion dollar grant, which also allowed Sri Lanka to leverage itself with more debt and get the ball rolling again. In exchange for that, the votebank shit of farmers just voting for gibs was made to stop, but there's a lot of pressure there to return to the old ways of unsustainable subsidies.

>>308112
There's two parts of British rule, the EIC and direct crown rule. From what I understand (my knowledge of this part is more patchy) is that the EIC was on its way to becoming a typical extractive empire, utilizing the same mercenary castes to maintain its rule, and playing divide and conquer. They gained power initially by offering a less-corrupt alternative to the Mughals, and Indians themselves turned to them, it was a bottom-up selection choice in a lot of ways. After the ball got rolling and they blobbed over the sub-continent, they started to utilize the same dirty tactics the Mughals once used. It started to embarrass the British crown and lead to PR issues when some of these renegade mercenary castes took it too far and started looting Indian cities.

British crown rule was very expensive for the British, but was managed like a standardized administrative Empire. The actual British Raj people generally have in mind only really came into existence for the last 70 years of colonial rule, it was a relatively short period of time. They tried in the 1930s to squeeze a profit out of their colonies and do what the Marxists have always accused them of doing, applying protectionism and locking their entire empire into a common market. It just didn't really work and they were still haemorrhaging money. The entire reason the British fucked off in the 1940s with barely a fight is because exponential population growth in India made the situation financially and logistically untenable.

I do think the British are responsible for formalizing caste in a way that didn't help anyone, and institutionalizing it. It was done for two reasons. The first was that they asked the local powers how caste worked, and the people in charge at the time gave the most aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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 No.307023[Reply]

This is the classic "Suicide General", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards.

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 No.307900

>>307702
while nature has some suffering built in, it's nothing like the sustained, ultra boring, slow boil which society, that is man, has chosen and imposed on itself by it's own free will.
If you kill yourself you indeed opt out of the system.
>>307717
yeah I don't like people denying the finality and reality of death. reincarnation is nonsense

 No.307905

>>307415
>picture
An infinite time of non conciousness doesn't feel like either infinite nor no time at all. It doesn't feel like anything because you do not exist whether it be from death or not being born. The non-existence from death is not the same as the non-existence from not yet being born. You were not "pulled out" of a death-state because you did not exist before birth. Your only plane of existence before birth is in the future, that you are "to be". But there's not yet a you. In order to say that we end up where we started you would need to say we started existing before we were born. I'm really not convinced that we exist in an infinite state of life OR death before birth.

 No.308113

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can someone help me kill myself with medication? I have access to venlafaxine, lithium, and fluoxetine. I know these medications can kill me, but I don't know exactly how

 No.308114

>>308113
you won't die with these, just turn yourself into a braindead drooling retard. Why do you want to end your life?

 No.308115

>>308114
>Why do you want to end your life?
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 No.307767[Reply]

>phone alarm wakes you up from blissful sleep
>you're in a warm comfy bed, under a warm blanket
>you bury your head under a blanket for 10 minutes but soon drag your ass out anyway
>drag your ass out to work, where everyone is very demanding and aggressive and hates you
>get back 10 hours later, having no energy to do anything
>do the same thing tomorrow again
I just want to sleep I'm tired of repeating the same morning torture ritual every day. If we weren't ruled by greedy subhumans we'd have 4 day work weeks by now.
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 No.307888

>If we weren't ruled by greedy subhumans we'd have 4 day work weeks by now.
Greedy subhumans is one thing, but another is normies on the rat race. As long as they keep competing for pussy, life will be shit for wageslaves. Maybe the crabs will collectively throw in the towel and give up on the hustle and grind. Life would be so much calmer and easier if normies stopped trying to outstatus one another. Life would be so much cheaper if we wageslaves didn't have to fund our employers and their succubi's luxuries. It's only a pipe dream though.

 No.307892

>>307769
I wish I could work for myself and be my own boss instead of making someone else richer.
>>307884
For many people, freedom is only found within walls.
>>307888
People overestimate the number of normies. There are just as many if not more failed normies. What you're asking for is for them to accept their loserdom which is just absurd.

 No.307924

Grow weed

 No.308105

I was posting here 10+ years ago considering going homeless to avoid getting a job as my parents were forcing me to and nagging/yelling at me literally every single minute of the day. Empty boomer platitudes that made my blood boil. I remember making a thread where I named myself "The black wanderer" LOL. As a reference to Berserk, still remember one of you guys telling me that's a stupid name. I've been working for 9 years at the same job now and it really is hell, and my job is still better than anything else I can obtain. Waking up is so hard, I've become an alcoholic and that's the only way I can cope. I'm practically in a daze/meditation at work just to not rope myself. If I have to move or get fired for some reason I know for sure I'll never find a job as easy(putting that lightly). I worked at a factory for 2 weeks, I couldn't do it.

 No.308111

I hate the drive more than work itself. Everyone is so selfish now, it's some madmax nonsense out there. I have no desire to be 'respected and loved' by those people, they're awful.


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 No.308091[Reply]

What is everyones thoughts on leaving a suicide note? Is it necessary for closure for others? A way to get everything off your chest before you ack? Or just a waste of time?

I have been staring at my .60 cent retirement plan, and am not sure if I would just like to go out and just have everyone guessing. Or if its right to leave a note. Most of my family thinks I am useless or lazy. However they have no introspection on that they are the ones who raised me.

 No.308092

it doesn't matter. i've spent quite some time thinking about it and figured that there is simply nothing worth saying. though if you can pump out another my twisted world by all means go ahead

 No.308104

I would write one, but I'm somewhat of a dramaqueen and would love to give a few last nuclear level fuck yous to everyone who deserves it. Also in case any of them have the ability to change their mindsets, hopefully my letter would sway them in some way. I doubt it, but I'll roll that dice. I think I would go full on manifesto so only my parents would actually care to read it. Ideally will just die after them as they aren't so bad anymore. extended family sucks

 No.308108

i can't stand my own writing, especially in my native language so i'm not going to bother writing anything. it would sound too melodramatic or schizophrenic. how do i even explain that there was something painfully wrong with me since i was born? and how do i explain that i'm suspicious of this world and believe it's ruled by an evil deity that wants to keep us trapped in a material prison?

hopefully after i die i don't have to stay and watch my own funeral. i don't want "closure", i just want to get the heck out of here asap.


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 No.307650[Reply]

I have become increasingly depressed at the state of discourse about almost any subject. Look at the opinions of most people and discuss their reasoning with them; they do not really have reasons based on experience or logic. They are just saying things they think are normal to say. They imitate others. They understand the world through memes. Zero actual curiosity or critical thinking skills when it comes to discussion of politics/culture/history/science/art. Everyone just parrots what they think others think. They think in memes. Partly to fit in and achieve social acceptance and partly just monkey see monkey do like a child or animal.

Democracy is a failure because most people have no idea what they are voting for or what the consequences will be. They just follow the cultural memes. The internet has exacerbated this. Most people’s political views or views on the culture are just glorified SIX SEVEN repetitions - people have no good justification for any of the ideas they follow.

It might sound arrogant and supercilious to say these things. I worry that I am not that different and I just copy things sometimes by instinct. Makes me wonder if the self even fucking exists and we are just biological self replicating robots copying things.

Depressing. Enraging.
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 No.308045

You sounds like a failed student trying to cope with his broken ego, ngl.

 No.308046

>>308045
you sound like a failed normie trying to cope with his broken ego, ngl

 No.308047

>>308046
My ego is very fine, don't worry. You avoided my point though

 No.308106

yea everyone pretends to fit in, that's the God of the normie, social approval.


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 No.307210[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.

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 No.308082

friday night and wizchan slows to a crawl…

 No.308083

>>308079
>what is this curse of being painfully aware of your every fault and feeling infinite shame but being unable to do anything about it?
complexes
>>308082
>>308080
guys never goon…

 No.308084

>>308083
>guys never goon…

Goon just means masturbate at this point, and anti-masturbation is pointless. I'm going to jerk off and enjoy it. The anti-masturbation crowd has nothing interesting to say and I've never heard a good argument from them.

 No.308088

>>308084
gooning is watching hentai for hours until your balls hurt.
>The anti-masturbation crowd has nothing interesting to say
anti-masturbation is absolutely based, but unfortunately too hard for most people. trying to argue with them is like trying to argue with Schwarzenegger about gym. on the other side anti-fap guys are usually underage tourists from 4chan who jerk off every second day.

 No.308101

there is no way out of poverty. even on my free day i'm too tired to care.


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 No.307315[Reply]

When I was young I used to indulge in escapism by imagining a new life where everything goes right and I have no problems, but now when I think of it I simply see nothing. There is no possible path for things to go right, every single case and scenario would bring me to suffer.

I guess it's because I became more experienced and understood that everything has a counter-effect and that I was simply focusing on the things that happened to me. For example, I have very protective, obsessed and generally loser (in the normie sense) parents who were watching my every move and spoil me because to them I was the only thing that was validating their need to have a meaning. But even if I had paremts who let me do whatever I wanted, it still wouldn't have fixed my inner problems and all the change would have been swapping the surface problems for others.

At this point it's like a puzzle, trying to connect all the pieces in a way that everything would go smoothly. But even if I give myself endless liberty, like being born a billionaire with perfect health, I still can't solve it. In fact, I have come to the point of trying to change physical laws to see if it could work (not having to eat/sleep etc.) and I still can't do it. Existence is pain and pain is existence, it looks like. Truly, the perfect life is to never be born.

What do you guys think? Do you have an idea of a good life you could have been living if you rolled the dice the right way at birth?
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 No.307465

>>307462
this wouldn't work. life of infinite pleasure isn't possible by design. no amount of technology will ever release you from this demiurge's torture cellar.

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>>307465
>life of infinite pleasure isn't possible
Read The Hedonistic Imperative. Suffering is a chemical reaction in your brain that evolution created.

 No.307481

>>307473
>Suffering is a chemical reaction in your brain that evolution created.
and demiurge designed your brain so that it's impossible to avoid suffering. if you avoid it long enough then you will simply go insane or die of heart attack when it finally comes. demiurge will just laugh his lungs out

 No.307536

>>307315
I don't think that is possible in the body we inhabit.
Made a similar thread asking what good parents/family would even look like too. I just don't know what I'd want. I know what is wrong and what is bad.
So less bad? No bad?
Maybe.

The biggest issue is that any real image of a good life does not include me.
If it does not include me then why even bother with a hypothetical?
All the events that happened shaped me and my genetics (and later accumulated experience) determined my reactions to them.
So given that, any "good life" would not include me.

>>307326
I've been trying to figure out a way to reach this too. It was prompted by another wizards post in some thread about us needing to embrace the "it's already over, you aren't part of the race anyways, just relax" mentality.
Again I'm paraphrasing from memory.
>endlessly competent, calm
For this all competence is sadly needed as you say. I've noted that a lot of the anxiety that has gone unnoticed by me, but not by my body is due to this.
I don't feel like I had any mastery over anything so if a problem might pop up, I knew I was unequipped to handle them.
Unfortunately a lot of things in this world can not be done solo (or I'm simply not able..), so I'm trying to focus more on the acceptance part as well.
How is it going for you?

 No.308094

>>307315
Something like the life of Hirayama from the movie Perfect Days. Having an easy job where you don't need to interact with people too much, your own place and simple solitary hobbies like gaming or reading. Going for walks in nature in your free time and getting enough rest. You will never be able to avoid suffering in some way, that's just life unfortunately.
For me such a life isn't possible since those low-stress, solitary type jobs have been nearly extinct with the advent of automation and cheap tech. And even if I had one, it wouldn't be enough to cover cost of living here anyways. I think this particular fantasy is irreconcilable with the economic realities that the elites have imposed upon us.


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 No.303825[Reply]

Would they? I've been thinking.

My mom is already LDAR'ing due to the debt and she's already lost one child, so I think either by suicide or stress she would die. My dad? He didn't seem to care that much when my stepbro died, but I am his firstborn. I don't know really. My little brother would probably just turn into me. That's my only concern. Everyone else, would cry for a day maybe.
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 No.306564

Anyone have the opposite, where large portions of their family hate them so much that they'd be actually sniggering and happy at the funeral?

 No.306734

>>303825
My grandma would care. My mom would be mad because having a son kill himself makes her look bad.

 No.307075

>>306564
What did you do bro

 No.308077

I think the only people who would care would be my family, nobody else.
other people that know me maybe wouldn't even know I did that.

 No.308087

My dad's remaining friends and family adored him so much they would mourn even his walking talking teratoma of a fail son purely for sharing genetics with him.
My mom's always been an amazing mom, losing me would kill her. I adore her enough to live for her.
I also don't want my cat to be put down if she she had to resort to eating my face or something.


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