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 No.307210[Reply]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.

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 No.307298

>>307297
wizchan is slow and sometimes you want to post some brainfart thought or blogpost and you don't want it to be a separate thread that's going to stay up for months. the crawl thread is like a very general chatroom-like thread that incentives people to post by lowering the barrier and increasing the speed of discussion. this one is for more /dep/ like posts, the other one is for normal ones.

 No.307303

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>>307210
I am in a strange place where i am wasting my life not doing anything productive but I am also not enjoying life either, i know a lot of people say that they have wasted years of their lives as NEETs but they most likely spent it doing their hobbies that they enjoy, so i can't really call them "wasted years" since they have at least had fun, I on the other hand do nothing at all, just waiting to die here, stuck thinking about my uncertain future without being able to do anything about it.

 No.307305

>>307303
i can relate somewhat. you kind of get stuck in this paralyzed state where there's nothing you can do about your current situation but you also can't brush off that sense of impending doom and guilt that ruins any fun timewasting activities that make life tolerable. like you're just constantly thinking "what am i gonna do" and scrolling through the internet, maybe listening to music while the same thought loop runs until you get tired and go to sleep.

 No.307306

>>307305
The worst part of it is the emptiness, when you are stuck without anything to do your brain starts to automatically overthink things and worry about the future, as opposed to when you are occupied with something that can distract you from your monkey mind

 No.307308

>>307303
I know you will likely scoff at such advice, but I know the feeling. We are biological machines, try eating well, sit in the sunlight in the morning with exposed skin, exercise in some way, something like pushups in your room or a walk at night. It will not completely remove dread or depression, but it will weaken the acute symptoms of it.



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 No.307294[Reply]

always no matter what happens set backs always set me back. and my goals arent that fucking unreasonable either. Change my habits, or enjoy a fucking game. and something major happens to set me back. not only am I scared to change im exausted about constantly being worried about what price im about to pay for that slight moment of enjoyment. its like the default setting for me in this life is to be miserable and useless, anything good going for me has to be double the price of bad luck to throw me back to square one. Nothing but bad luck. im just so frustrated.

 No.307299

if it's not working, then just stop trying, wiz. are there any areas of your life where things actually do go smoothly and feel effortless? put your energy towards these things, double down on them, even if your parents/society thinks it's lame or bad for you. you can't succeed the way they're telling you to, you have to find your own path. don't worry about how it's going to make you money or earn you normalfag respect, if you put in consistent time/effort into these things, not only will it feel rewarding, you'll be better off in the long-term anyway than succeeding in what others tell you to.

 No.307307

>>307299
I tried to find it but it always ends up in a situation its hard to recover from. maybe im just not ment to do anything



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 No.306545[Reply]

I am not even that horny, a lot of the days I force my self to do it while not even being in the mood for it, it's just the most effective way for me to cope, masturbation is free, gives you instant pleasure and can burn for you many hours at the time, there are times when i find my self touching myself just so I can use it as a way to distract my self for my anxieties and negative thought loops, as soon as i start touching myself all my anxiety and negative emotions start to dissolve as much as i hate and it hate how much i overdo it, i can't deny it makes getting through my days easier when i can just touch my self for many hours instead of just sitting there being miserable feeling hollow bored to tears and empty or anxious and overthinking at worse, my point here is that I believe the addiction for me is a mere sympotom, something I use to escape my negative feelings and the emptiness of my daily life, thanks for reading my blogpost
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 No.307001

>>306545
It's a fucking addiction and I hate it. It destroyed everything in my life and takes me many hours of my days only to after masturbated 3 times one after other, I feel destroyed and without energy. Many times I wish to suicide myself in that state after masturbate for the low level of energy that I had. Wish the best of luck to everyone trying to left this evilness.

 No.307002

>>307001
Just stop fapping.

 No.307090

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I used to be a pretty hardcore junkie, now cigarettes and fapping are my only vices
truth be told, i was mostly jerking off on stimulants, apart from getting high on weed
Stopped because it was destroying my body fast
Cant beat the libido, gotta live with it
>>306880
its hard, but its always something
for me its anime and vidya again now
some people are just easy to get addicted
>>306548
if i can offer you some kind of relief, I was fapping sometimes for days at a time on drugs till my member was red and hurt and i did that often
Everything still works
If you are just jerking off, I think it is highly unlikely you are doing any permanent harm
likely the fear of consequences is damaging you more then the actual fapping
good look anon, im sure youll be able to moderate yourself

 No.307168

i got into trading & finance and it pretty much replaced my addiction
also my taste defaulted back to vanilla

 No.307304

>>307168
Good for you, Wizanon



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 No.307023[Reply]

This is the classic "Suicide General", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards.

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 No.307261

I completely messed up. I used the eye drops for an extra month longer than I should have, and now I could go blind. I wasn't considering suicide in a while, but I think there's no point in living like this anymore. I'm going to hit my head as hard as I can and then throw myself down the stairs. Wish me luck.

 No.307263

>>307261
good luck

 No.307285

tried to block my carotid artery with my fingers to see how it will feel, it is like if you were drugged for 5 seconds, literal state of confusion,whatever you were thinking is immediately gone, whatever noise you hear sounds robotic in a way, feeling the coldness covering your head the same way that you accidentally turn on the cold water in a shower, tried to pass out but i always wound up so confused on what's going on that the pressure exerted lightens up and blood circulation returns again

highly likely am going to hang myself in the next two months and getting the taste of how it feels like having stones taking off your ever more weakened back

 No.307288

Can we not post random erotic images here? Fuck that

 No.307290

>>307288
ah shit my bad, that wasn't my intention at all, literally the only image i have



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 No.307205[Reply]

This thread is for talking about OCD, addictions, or those kinds of disorders that ruined our lives
>So
When I was a kid, I had some pretty OCD-like behavior—I’d touch things and check them over and over until I felt reassured that everything was okay. I also used to walk on my tiptoes, which is a bit autistic, but I eventually stopped doing that (I don’t know if I have autism at this point bacause never did a test, but whatever).
>So what’s up with you?
Well, in my case is limerence (some studies say is co-related to OCD)
>And what’s that like?
Well, imagine a succubi (for some people even can be the other sex you dont like) talks to you and treats you kindly once or twice, and then you start getting way more than just nervous around her because your body starts releasing dopamine, serotonin, and all that shit. And since you don’t know what’s going on, you think you like her or have fallen in love, but its NOT.
really it’s just fucking anxiety toward a “thing.” Because you’re constantly seeking validation in some way—whether for friendship, attention, or love but you have this anxiety that you know is inappropriate, and if you act on it, the feeling of danger gets worse, it’s almost like you’re having a heart attack. and as time pass the thing got worst and worst and you get more obsessive, nerveous and get a peak of anxiety, even start to rumiate or have that thing of limerence (LO) living rent free in your head bacause your brain cant stop thinking about your LO
>What was the worst experience you've ever had?
Even you will end starting to dream with the LO and have happy dreams or nightmares and waking up crying bacause you are getting the peak of anxiety and dopamine,etc sec before waking up. this shit can even ruin friendship.
>Why the hell does this happen?
I don’t know, genetics, anxiety, depression, emotional dependency, low self-steem, negligent parents, love hungry, maybe OCD etc and a whole lot of shit
>You're larping this nonsense
but in my case, it’s not like those internet memes of bitch tumblr succubi where it only happens once and they use like a joke for love or crush
>You're a retard and you fall in love go fuk yourself wizard
No, no it’s happened to me constantly over the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>307247
>If you obsess over succubi this website is not for you.
I started this thread after reading the chan rules, again.
I’m not in love with a succubi, my damn brain is messed up and keeps getting fixated on a “thing.” It’s not that different from OCD, except that this shit hasn’t been studied much because the specific conditions that trigger it are different from typical OCD though they might be related.
That’s why I’m trying to explain this shit about the LO (Limerency Object) and the limerent object thing
I’m not in love with that succubi, nor do I feel something.
My body just reacts out of inertia, like a state of freezing and panic followed by anxiety and other obsessive-compulsive effects like rumination and other shit around LO thing.
I can't tell any of my family or so-called “friends” about this shit because I know the first thing they'd say is that I'm crazy or that I should try to make a move on (my LO or you can call her or succubi if you want your sex/genre shit), when I don't want any of this shit.

The worst part about this is that I read that sometimes it happens to some people with members of the opposite sex whom they aren't attracted to, regardless of age this shit just ignore your sexual preferences sometimes with some people, never happened to me)
I guess they call it “Object” because using concepts like love, romance, or obsession subject etc don't make sense to this whole thing that in reality just dehumanizes the people you're obsessed with and puts them on a pedestal in your mind as if they were perfect.
I started this thread partly in case to see if another wizard is going through or has gone through this crap.

 No.307269

>>307252
I am very sorry I have misinterpreted your post.
>I’m not in love with that succubi, nor do I feel something.
The word "limerence" can also mean infatuation but you seem to refer to some specific mental illness I am not familiar with.

I suffer from severe mental illness (schizophrenia) and must constantly listen to these voices, commenting on my thoughts. I think something and they start shouting "comments", if I think "I don't ever want to have sex" like I did just now to hear their response, they shouted back "you are fucking lying you want to have sex". It's all in my head and it isn't my thoughts.
Well I guess maybe you are ruined too with your fixations and physical responses.
This shit doesn't get better.

 No.307270

my OCD ruined my life. now i just live in fear and take meds drink beer

 No.307273

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>>307269
>I am very sorry I have misinterpreted your post.
>The word "limerence" can also mean infatuation but you seem to refer to some specific mental illness I am not familiar with.
I appreciate your understanding Wiz. If I told the people around me, I couldn't expect that kind of response because they simply wouldn't understand how overwhelming the feeling and situation is.
>I suffer from severe mental illness (schizophrenia) and must constantly listen to these voices, commenting on my thoughts.
holymoly
I can't imagine how awful that must be, it sounds even worse than negative thoughts, because those are constantly running and talking through your head.
>Well I guess maybe you are ruined too with your fixations and physical responses.
So far, I've been managing it pretty well I just have to keep myself busy, distract myself, or set goals and stick to routines, and take care of my mental health by being mindful of what the hell I'm thinking or what stupid fantasies I'm having.
Ever since I started reading about treatments, routines, mental hygiene, and so on, I've realized later that there's no treatment for this other than what they offer for OCD but it's not the same, CBT tech and etc can be helful anyway.
It's just a matter of waiting for the brain to rewire itself maybe.

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>>307270
>my OCD ruined my life. now i just live in fear and take meds drink beer
I'm sorry to hear that pal
I read from a couple of people with limerence (and I mean this as a real obsessive disorder, not some romanticized bullshit similar to infatuation that Tumblr and social media succubi throw around like a meme) that many lost their limerence for their LO or even future LO after quitting alcohol or other addictions, I guess since it’s so similar to addiction, you try to kick both at the same time at the start that you start to know about your mind and tools.
still fucking hard although I think there are people who even with self-control and all that still end up in the same situation, I don't know why, things of brain or i don't know.
>meds
It didn't get to that point, but last year I had what I think were panic attacks a lot of the time at specific LO situations that I couldn't breathe and went through all kinds of horrible stuff, to the point where I'd end up shaking and had absolutely no control over myself. Basically, I'd just lie there frozen in bed because of a mix of nerves and anxiety it was incredibly exhausting.



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 No.301262[Reply]

It's Saturday night and I started taking a new antidepressant called Mirtazapine (15mg) on Thursday night.

This is my 10th or so attempt at a psychiatric medication. I've tried lots of therapy too.

Wish me luck anonymages. I was about to quit my job but watched some motivational videos on autoplay on Youtube for hours and as cheesy as it was, they convinced me to give this a go.

I didn't even get these prescribed recently. It was way back last year and then I just didn't take them because this particular medicine has a reputation for making people really fatigued.

It does put me to sleep. But, maybe that's ok. If it means I can find some happening apart from fapping and dreaming while I sleep.

Maybe it'll even help me turnaround my fortunes at work where it looks like I'm sliding towards a firing or just being unable to come in. Barely stopped myself raging at my boss the other day and took 2 weeks sick leave from stress afterwards. I need to swallow some humble pie come Monday and hopefully these pills help. Being off work for 2 weeks showed me I'm just as miserable and actually more so depressed, anxious and stressed not working despite all the antiwork slogans I collect.
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 No.306224

>>306223
I know. I even knew it was poison. But I was in a dark place, very young, and didn't have enough life experience to realize how much this stuff could destroy me. And most of all, I wanted to make my mother happy.
>They might have status or credentials but they are still human and as such you can never trust their intentions until you've proven them.
You are very correct.

 No.306225

>>306148
Didn't mean to sound so dramatic. I hate crabs and their brain dead ideas. The truth is that I could never kill a human being.

 No.306999

>>306219
>Stopped working out and eating healthy, I am slowly rotting and have no more will because my situation doesn't seem like it will ever get better. If it improves, that will be in many years.

It’s perfectly okay to feel this way sometimes. You don’t have to feel bad for feeling this way. However there exists no objective logical ground for you to have imposed this conclusion on yourself as a sort of certain fatalistic sentence. In my own case, I managed to (mostly, ~95%) cure my pssd within about 1.5 years of its on-set. I feel that you should be able to do the same if you remain diligent in your diet and (just as importantly) trusting in your private mind that you can be bettered and ultimately returned wholly to where you were before the ingestion of ssris.

>What do you think of TRT, reinstatement… or something else? I have been told to do keto diet. I really feel like the best thing would be to microdose shrooms, lsd


I don’t think your problems are related to circulating levels of sex hormones, especially not at your age. I know after having taken ssris and encountering genital impotence and anesthesia that my own serum levels of testosterone were essentially unchanged from the year before (suggesting that the drug had not materially altered them). I cannot speak to “microdosing shrooms” as this seems near totally impertinent to the restoration of a former normal chemical balance within your brain; if anything I would imagine introducing heavy psychogenic drugs like shrooms would only further confuse an already-confused neurochemistry.

But as to what I do think might be helpful:

1. Recall that prozac being a fluoride-based ssri will particularly lower blood levels of folate (vitamin B9). In addition to everything I already recommended above in earlier posts, I would like to advise you to make sure you are getting sufficient amounts of folate into your body everyday (preferably through a well-made and well-reviewed B-complex supplement). This will combat the likely chronic folate-lowering effects of the offending drug.

“Depressed individuals often exhibit low levels of serum and red blood cell folate.”

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 No.307049

>>306999
good advice and nice digits

 No.307254

>>306219
You still here?



 No.301895[Reply]

Starting a new anti-suicide general as the original has been bump-locked.

Helping wizards to understand that persuasive feelings of suicide can be bested.

Further the discursive spirit of this thread will remain the same as the first: to counter the general luring tenor of sadness that defines all the other threads through sharing positive practical advice purposed to reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidal. Naturally, being that I started the topic, I will be the first to contribute.

(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care (many have already done this, to no worthwhile avail)
(2) Examine what you are eating. For example, gluten especially produces depressive/psychotic episodes in sensitive autistic individuals. Sugar also is not healthy for your brain. Delimiting ingestion of both is wise.
(3) Make sure you are getting sufficient sleep. Chronic sleeplessness or even a few days' worth of irregular sleep can seriously interfere with the clarity of our thinking.
(4) Clean up. Taking a warm shower and putting on fresh clean clothes always is refreshing and helps to break up darkened mental habits.
(5) Breathe fresh air. Open whichever windows punctuate your room and allow some wind to come in.
(6) Watch your breathing. When we are panicked, our breathing can become very disordered and we do not recognize the effect this has on our thinking. Take deep, purposeful breaths, and collect your thoughts.
(7) Respect yourself. You have done your best to survive in an awful world, and you should grant yourself forgiveness for any mistakes and the allowance to rest with a composed and balanced mind.

I've done my part. Anyone else?
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 No.306247

>>304793
Do you follow this diet?

 No.306619

>>305499
Any authentically calm space will do. You don't always need to be on the floor to meditate, you know.

 No.306994

>>306619
Being outside is excellent for meditation. I actually like to vary my spots. What is your favorite?

 No.306997

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WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE

WITH SOARING EYES

 No.307253

>>306994
under large remote trees is a spot i enjoy for meditating.



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 No.305809[Reply]

"Hey wizanon… did you go through a similar thing?"

I will never forgive this world, my ancestors, my genes, my family, those people. I will especially, never forgive myself. My adolesence was robbed from me. I could've eaten better, I could've been stronger, I could've said no to all the evil people who abused me, humiliated me, bullied me, took advantage of me. I can pretend to be happy in moments of fantasy, but my baseline is always depression because I have been robbed so completely.

What did I do to deserve this fate? Who was I in my past life to deserve being in such a position? If I had eaten better, I could've grown to my true height. If I had said no and held steadfast, I could've fought back against them. If I had shown some semblance of courage, I could've made happy memories in my youth.

I am 23 years old. You might say that is young. But I have lost the most important years of my growth and development. I have wasted them by suffering emotionally and physically with no fault of my own. I have wasted them by letting others rob me of what I had, my dignity, my reputation, my identity, my resources. I dropped out of school with so much hope, I was truly so happy, only to suffer far more than I ever have at the hands of forces beyond my control.

No matter what I do now, as much as I would love to believe otherwise, there is absolutely nothing I could do to compensate for what I have lost. Nothing I could do replace those days. Nothing I could do to get back what I lost forever. What's been robbed was meant to be robbed permanently. I can only mourn and ache for the rest of my life, aching for the things I was supposed to have but will never get back.
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 No.307158

>>307156
In his case how is this thought going to help him?

 No.307159

>>305809
>>307152
I have nothing to say to you brother but I feel the same. I relate to this on a deeper level.

 No.307160

hey iam 1.83m and i will get height surgery to make it 1.95m you should KYS now it's over for you

 No.307166

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>>305809
>I am 23 years old. You might say that is young. But I have lost the most important years of my growth and development.
yes, but don't worry, that is all still too little compared to the future

 No.307246

>>305809
Yes, I went through something similar. I regret not running away or hanging myself as a teenager. There is this wish to permanently leave this world through hanging. Soon I will experience what comes after death. If there is nothing I will stop experiencing this nightmare too.



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 No.302164[Reply]

Does anyone here struggle with alcohol, or have managed to quit?

It used to be a good coping mechanism for me, but it seems the older I've gotten the worse it feels, and it's become detrimental to my health and the way I behave around people. Easily annoyed, constantly starting shit, tired all the time, strange pains. And I was still getting worse, fast.

This has been a wake-up call and I'm realizing I need to quit before it's too late. Though that's easy for me to say now when I'm still feeling bad, and I fear the cravings will come back strong, but I know I've got to try.

Curious to hear others experience with this.
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 No.307199

>>307102
Once you have that first drink it's impossible to stop. There is no 'responsible amount of drinking' for people like us. It's best to avoid it completely.

 No.307200

>>307199
That's exactly what big booze wants you to think.

 No.307214

>>307199

That's not true unless you have a physiological addiction to alcohol.

You can stop after a drink or even a couple. You just don't want to.

 No.307241

>>307214
It's chasing the dopamine dragon. And the more you drink the harder it is to tell you've had too much.

 No.307245

>>307214
Not him but there's a form of alcoholism where you just don't stop after you get drunk, because your inhibition has been lowered. I have it and can only regulate alcohol by buying it in small hip flasks or set bottles of wine.

When I was 20 I bought a whole bottle of whiskey and then the next thing I remember after I started drinking was waking up on a playground after I passed out blackout drunk.



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 No.306970[Reply]

I've seen this discussed in many threads so I made a thread for it. Many wizzies had had their life destroyed by psychiatric medication be it SSRI's, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines or others. A psych ward stay tends to leave you worse off. Some people get abused in psychiatric institutions. Mentioning you are sad and thinking about suicide to a doctor or nurse can get you forcefully restrained and tranquilised.
I'm suicidal but I avoid any medical help precisely for this reason.
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 No.307018

>>307012
that makes you brothers doesn't it?

 No.307076

>>307018
I'm schizophrenic not lobotomised

 No.307161

>>306971
>It's hit or miss. It can be extremely terrible or whitepilling.
From your description it seems like I hit the nail on your head. I am not American, I am also based in the European Union. I sometimes buy this fancy Dutch milk at the grocery store, freaking delicious.
>>306973
>If you see navigating the process as some arduous thing and are constantly fretting about psychiatry and meds, you probably are genuinely mentally ill
I think I am being reasonable, they simply replaced the restraints with tranquilisers and keep the worst of the abuse limited to the involuntary committed. It seems absurd to me to voluntarily look for medical help when you are having serious suicidal thoughts.

 No.307162

after being in and out of the hospital for years they set me up with outpatient treatment 5 days a week. i dont really like the group therapy

 No.307228

>>306974
I hope you are being sarcastic.
>>306978
Psychotherapy is as good as a placebo pill. If you want to talk about your issues you are better off trying any online forum or chat.



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