/dep/ - Depression

>>307051
Sounds more like a nigger said this

>>307068
ok so?
what can be taken away from that quote?
it's like saying
"a car without fuel is useless"
well yeah duh
so?

>>307080
That's a really stupid interpretation of the statement. There's no need to deduce something so clear to similes involving material utlilty.
>A man who has the knowledge but lacks the power clearly to express it is no better off than if he never had any ideas at all.
Means that doing things ends up getting those things done, while just thinking about doing those things doesn't. There's no reason to revere those who simply think. Such reverence is especially unnecessary in the context of reflection, i.e don't get an ego boner because you know how to solve a problem but are too lazy to actually fix that issue. Your contribution to resolving the issue as someone who knows but does not do is worth the same as that from someone who doesn't know and doesn't do, because they both bring about the same results. tl;dr Do it, faggot.

I can't figure out the quote's relevance to this thread, but on the whole it applies to /dep/ well
>I want to die soo sooo bad and I've learned 500 ways to kill myself from suicide handbooks but I absolutely can not and will not kill myself because uuh willpower or predetermism or my mom will turn me in to a vegetable or something. You must pity me and revere me as though I am someone who actually did take his life though because me and him are like totally the same, in fact I am suffering more than they guy who actually did die.

>>307038
What is worse?
People acting like they know everything about you from taking just one look at you, or from reading just one of your posts. If you take their misguided advice, you will not only fight with other people on your way, but you will be going the wrong way entirely.

>>307044
Extreme laziness, gooning, idling in the comfort zone for too long.

>>306892
The problem with the blackpill that no one talks about it is that it is constant, let me explain, you're not being blackpilled ones like once you have looked at the date, researches, studies, etc. which are absolutely true. You don't need to look at them again and again, it's like having a disease and constantly reminding yourself that you have a disease, that's just no way to live to be honest, and you dive deeper and deeper in it to find a solution to your problems, but there isn't one.

Most importantly there are, now this will sound like typical "positivity" BS to people but hey you've gotta be kind to yourself and love yourself, in times where you only have yourself, don't be at war with you. And realise that certain things were out of your hands and they'll likely be forever.

>>307053
>once you have looked at the date, researches, studies, etc.
>WHICH ARE ABSOLUTELY TRUE
Lol piss off crab.

>>307057
>you can't disprove the studies about female s*xual behavior.
I don't need to. I've never read any studies relating to female sexual behavior because as a voluntary celibate man, I have no reason to care. Well actually, "not caring" isn't entirely true. Whatever the studies say, the results evidently keep weak-willed and immature men in a perpetual state of self-loathing and whining. I find that incredibly funny, so in a sense I do care. I'm drawn to this website primarily because crying about female sexual behavior is banned. Are you crying? Or are you laughing? Cheer up.

>>306888
>Most of all I love people,
liking individuals is okay but liking people? are you out of your mind? please go back to facebook or whatever.

>>306907
>It's all about perspective. OP has the right perspective. Your perception is wrong, weak, and gay. From the looks of it so far, those who share your perspective are miserable and crabby. When those who enjoy life manage to change the perspective of someone who doesn't, happiness increases. When those who loath existense as some terrible struggle convince someone that their perspective is correct, happiness decreases. So stop trying to perpetute your joke ideology that life is bad lest you be labelled as someone who wants guys here to be as sad and whiny as you.
It's not about perspective at all. Suffering is bad no matter which way you look at it. Are you saying we should put on a smile and cheer up when faced with suffering? Now THAT is wrong, fake, and gay. It's weak too, in a feminine way. "Looking on the bright side" is what succubi do because they can't handle the terrible truth. Pretending I'm happy when my life is objectively shit would literally be a delusion. Do you advocate for being delusional?

And how does one even cheer up?
Seriously, how?
By forcing a smile on my face?
By looking away from the things that trouble me?
The cause of my unhappiness won't go away if I pretend it's not there.
Is there a way to be happier without conducting some kind of psyop on yourself?

>>306992
how disgusting

>>306970
I dont fucking care. I go to the psychiatry to give me pills and stop this shit thougths and impulsive behavior. I dont care about i will became a lobotomized I only want live in peace and alone.

>>307009
>I dont care about i will became a lobotomized
Looks like you are lobotomised already.

>>307012
that makes you brothers doesn't it?

>>307018
I'm schizophrenic not lobotomised

>>305829
my parents idea of "parenting" was to constantly inflict these petty torments. I was just thinking the last day how unthinkable it is for me to want to hug my mom. I've long cut off all contact. my life was like a game of running away from gross people

Yes. If I were convinced otherwise I doubt I'd stick around very long. I wouldn't do that to my family though. Or my cat.

Anyone have the opposite, where large portions of their family hate them so much that they'd be actually sniggering and happy at the funeral?

>>303825
My grandma would care. My mom would be mad because having a son kill himself makes her look bad.

>>306564
What did you do bro

>>306584
true as fuck

>>306437
I want but my environment doesn't let me do it. I mean, I have to get known by people to gave me job on my uni so… Until I get a job, I have to tolerate the gossip and the human idiocy for a good time.

yeah is way better not to be part of society, if you got a real good look at what people are like, you'd want to be as far away from them and their system of violence and slavery as possible.

in order to enjoy this society you have to be a cuck and that is what the education system is for. making you a cuck. untrain your sense of selfpreservation, untrain your selfrespect, untrain your opposition to injustice. for billionaires to get richer, you need get get poorer, sicker and sadder.

the one thing you can do is refuse to let go of cause-and-effect.

>>306437
Just threw away all the stuff I bought off a shelf and filled a couple contractor bags with it. Long story short is I was raised by a narcissist and an alcoholic all my life and am not fit for whatever the act of interacting with other humans is these days so its time to pack a bag and head for the mountains.

I hate that I have so much hate and distrust for other humans but most of my interactions with them show me most of them are greedy self centered mattress climbers that have dog brain.

I think about how much happiness I'd gain if I was completely alone in this world so I wouldn't have to mask around npcs just to feel normal. I feel happy in the woods because every animal out there is honest in every action they make.

Humans do the complete opposite and its the reason Im not saying a word to anyone. I've almost got everything cleaned up and by the time they start asking about me (if they even do ask about me) ill be in the next state minding my own business.

Began doing this at the beginning of 2026.

It is strangely calming and beautiful.

I've been a Satanist forever. I avoid other satanists though. I've found a lot, in general I like the path I'm on. I've tried Orthodox Christianity, for 2 years. I like a lot from it, I suffered a lot but orthodoxy helped me be glad and not worry during it. But it's hard. I never got baptized I couldn't even after a year, the priest wouldn't let me.

It has useful insights. But don't get locked down and forced to defend ideas/people you normally wouldn't

>>306449
I used to read the bible to know what in the past was normal and have some kind of guide. It helped me understand that the evil and destructive of humans it's not nothing new, but something periodic and only changes in what kind of evilness they practice. Religion as an answer to everything I think that it's pretty limited from a human being to process the real world and the environment and most people are closer to the church than god so that makes me think that they sin from the immaturity and the same bad behaviors that the great majority has. I don't think that religion is for everyone and most of wizards here want answers, not consolation. My family and most people only tried to comfort me when bad things happened in my life, and that makes me feel worse because I want the "why" happened that so I can evade it or learn from there,etc,etc because I feel comfort when I know why x or y stuff, good or bad, happened. But that's my case. The most majority only wants to remove the emotion and continue without knowing why happened and that's what religion is a good answer for a great amount of people. Not in my case and I see that not in yours.

>>307000
> It helped me understand that the evil and destructive of humans it's not nothing new
YHWH himself ("God") does and commands so many evil things himself throughout the Bible. Did you even read it?

The idea of going to church to solve all problems in your personal life would appear absurd to your average person 300+ years ago, as the church/mosque/whatever was intertwined with the social fabric and just something you did. Most people were functionally cynical and indifferent, focused on worldly matters. They just experienced bouts of religious revival every time a catastrophe like a major famine hit. Superstitious would be a better way to describe most.

Religious fundamentalism and traditionalism is actually a modern intervention, and is a form of mass politics similar to fascism/nazism/communism.

>Idealizes a mythical past, whether the early church or early caliphates
>Reaction to the dislocations of modernity
>Mass political involvement and mobilization of large segments of the population. From placarded displays, large protests, political and religious symbolism.
>Often focused on a single leader, as is found in megachurches with Christianity or Ayatollah Khomeini in Shia Islam.
>aims to regulate the private life more entirely and more thoroughly than old religious communities ever did.
>Anti-syncretic and anti-pluralist.
>Total indoctrination of the population
>Homogenizing and populist, widespread promotion of intermarriage within the accepted population/ideological community and mixing in order to level out everyone to the same level.

You see this most pronounced with Islam. The average Muzzie in the 16th century was syncretic with older traditions in his region, often drank alcohol in his village and knew very little of the actual contents of the Quran and Hadiths. Since the printing press got introduced to the region and they suffered colonial humiliations, they stripped Islam to its barebones (especially with Salafism) and are using it as a vehicle for mass politics. It's why the region can flip between Ba'athism and Islamic Fundamentalism with ease, they're functionally approaching politics from the same point. The Trad-LARPers have more in common with Marxist Leninists, Ba'athists, Fascists than they do with the early church or caliphate they so admire.

>>307071
In India poor muslims don't give a shit about the slcohol and drug hadiths and laws either, they cope like other poors by abusing said substances.

Did you know Pakistan has one of the biggest drug and alcohol problems in the world?
Iran also has a major problem with alcoholics despite alcohol being legally banned.

>>307030
ironically whenever i want to remember why i'm suicidal i either browse imageboards or talk to people elsewhere. i don't often do the latter though, i don't like real people

>>307030
I don't browse the internet for this but I go over certain things inside of my head.
Imagining my life if I could have done the things I wanted to.
Thinking about how boring and repulsive my life is.
Realising always more pain is coming and you can just shut the pain impulse off forever by hanging myself.
I really think I am close to leaving now.

Leave homura out of this she is the reason im not dead

>>307024
>>307026
>>307028
>>307047

Can you faggots please talk about suicide. Nobody fucking cares about a homura fanart.

>>307023
Yes, I want to kill myself. The future scares me. I do what I can in the present without focusing on the future, but after shedding my ego, my greatest fear is witnessing the total failure of my nature in aligning with reality. To be in my natural state, and see catastrophic failure. I can't handle it. I hope MAID becomes legal. I want to be euthanized.

>>307024
>>307028
>>307033
OP here. So basically you guys are saying you like 2D but as soon as it is used to express any sentiment it makes you a faggot. So for example making a post expressing confusion or asking questions accompanied by a confused anime succ with a question mark makes you a total faggot.
This isn't the outcast/NEET culture I've known, and I should look for a different place.
>>307072
I don't like euthanasia, dying in a hospital bed surrounded by white coats, I plan on hanging myself.

>>306034
>and voices in my head, it puts me in a state of relaxation

Auditory hallucinations kind of voices or endless inner monologues kind of voices? It's not my field, just kinda learned a factoid recently: "auditory hallucinations happen in 4 out of 5 SCH havers".

As for shy people, welp, I remeber reading in some book how some shy people tend to drink "because it helps to be less shy" and BAM! Alcoholism due to tolerance (that's why resolving life issues makes a person a less of shut-in)

I'm pretty lucky I'm such a total lightweight. Liqour is prohibitly expensive due to taxes but I'm able to get properly drunk on beer, doesn't even take a lot. It's probably in large part due to weighing only 57KG (180 cm tall). I just skip meals by sleeping 14 hours a day.
Anyways, I strongly recommend homebrewing. Super cheap to get into and you're able to get ~15% abv drink and get wasted for a dollar or two (less than a dollar for me).

I like drinking but only when I know I'm not going to interact with other people. Sober me knows to be quiet and not say stupid shit I'll regret later. Drunk me does not. Sure feels good though.

I drink more or less everyday. Red wine, cant stop. I tell myself this was last one, even in the morning. Then later in the evening I am out buying more. Drinking right now

>>307069
More to it, I always wondered why people just dont stop. But now I am there myself. You really need to be there I guess. For example I look at gambling addicts and I dont understand it, but they probably look at me and dont understand it.

>>307055
>On e you've developed a pessimistic mind set you can never really get rid of it

Stop projecting
>be me
>be a pessimistic misanthrope with murderous ideation
>turn 19
>go outside and have solitary experiences away from the computer
>start lifting weights
>suddenly consider life to be pretty cool
There. I just debunked your claim that a guy can never get rid of his pessimism.

>>307056
>I don't understand how people can be optimistic when everything is so bad.
You failing to understand people's feelings doesn't mean those feelings are wrong. It sucks for you that you consider everything to be bad, but here I sit unemployed on a rainy Monday morning with anime on my screen and a beer in my hand and I feel as though everything is good.

I try to force myself to do hobbies. "Fake it till you make it" says the normalfag. It never works, and I never end up enjoying whatever I force myself to do.

right now I'm forcing myself to learn math, but my brain rejects the stuff at offhand because I do not, can not, and will not ever care about whether a particular sequence reaches a limit or not.

But it's that or nothing. It's that or sleeping all day, pacing around the house, or jerking off. Being idle makes me miserable because I'm "wasting time", working at something is equally miserable because I can't force myself to care.

>>307059
You haven't developed anything at the age of 19 so you can't say you overcame pessimism. I'm not talking a about getting out of puberty. Come back when you are 35 but I doubt you'll be a wizard.

slows to a crawl, like clockwork

>>307061
Find a question or problem that you're curious about that can be modeled or solved by the mathematical concept you are studying. You can easily ask ChatGPT or some other LLM to give you reasons to care. Also, use graphical and coding tools whenever possible to get a real "feel" for the mathematical concept. Geogebra, Wolfram Mathematica, Jupyter Notebooks etc. visualize the concept, draw a pretty graph or animation, play around with it, solve problems.

If all that fails, then just pick a different branch or sub-branch of mathematics.

>>306219
You should never immediately trust someone because of their status or credentials.

They might have status or credentials but they are still human and as such you can never trust their intentions until you've proven them.

>>306223
I know. I even knew it was poison. But I was in a dark place, very young, and didn't have enough life experience to realize how much this stuff could destroy me. And most of all, I wanted to make my mother happy.
>They might have status or credentials but they are still human and as such you can never trust their intentions until you've proven them.
You are very correct.

>>306148
Didn't mean to sound so dramatic. I hate crabs and their brain dead ideas. The truth is that I could never kill a human being.

>>306219
>Stopped working out and eating healthy, I am slowly rotting and have no more will because my situation doesn't seem like it will ever get better. If it improves, that will be in many years.

It’s perfectly okay to feel this way sometimes. You don’t have to feel bad for feeling this way. However there exists no objective logical ground for you to have imposed this conclusion on yourself as a sort of certain fatalistic sentence. In my own case, I managed to (mostly, ~95%) cure my pssd within about 1.5 years of its on-set. I feel that you should be able to do the same if you remain diligent in your diet and (just as importantly) trusting in your private mind that you can be bettered and ultimately returned wholly to where you were before the ingestion of ssris.

>What do you think of TRT, reinstatement… or something else? I have been told to do keto diet. I really feel like the best thing would be to microdose shrooms, lsd

I don’t think your problems are related to circulating levels of sex hormones, especially not at your age. I know after having taken ssris and encountering genital impotence and anesthesia that my own serum levels of testosterone were essentially unchanged from the year before (suggesting that the drug had not materially altered them). I cannot speak to “microdosing shrooms” as this seems near totally impertinent to the restoration of a former normal chemical balance within your brain; if anything I would imagine introducing heavy psychogenic drugs like shrooms would only further confuse an already-confused neurochemistry.

But as to what I do think might be helpful:

1. Recall that prozac being a fluoride-based ssri will particularly lower blood levels of folate (vitamin B9). In addition to everything I already recommended above in earlier posts, I would like to advise you to make sure you are getting sufficient amounts of folate into your body everyday (preferably through a well-made and well-reviewed B-complex supplement). This will combat the likely chronic folate-lowering effects of the offending drug.

“Depressed individuals often exhibit low levels of serum and red blood cell folate.”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>306999
good advice and nice digits