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 No.289249[Reply]

This is probably not big news, but you have much worse chances of getting anything done in life if you are not social. From jobs, to housing, to money. If you are trying to do everything alone, you will not be as successful. Except you have a godlike family and upbringing. But I suppose nobody here had this.
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 No.290138

>>290102
Make me.

 No.291451

>>289249
What matters is to follow your strategy and authority. https://www.thesimply.ca/blog/human-design-basics

Thanks to this I finally stopped my exhausting, humilliating job search, and stopped feeling the horrid dread that comes with it. I do NEET and happily! But not everyone could follow my path. Strategy stuff.

 No.291519

>>289249
Up to himself whoever believes this bait.
>>289394
glow off normals, you still cucked after the idea of calling this situation all the ways "a loser".

>>289400
>People telling me to stop bitching about normies and to try to be social just made me more determined to isolate myself
See, failed normals? Learn from this guy.
>really getting older after 30
It's all in the manuals, men: https://wizchan.org/dep/res/291067.html#291423
>and realizing how much time you lose
So, you have things where time is worth? Time long enough to need to stay off the PC? Ooooh… shiny.
>>289485
Your MBTI type, man. Contact those who share it, those are the ones who see the world through lenses like yours.
>>289647
Yeah, it's not our fault you get roasted by not fitting what he said. I was like this as a kid, all the time.
>>289650
Is this another triggered failed normie? What a mess…
>>289659
We can make of ourselves whatever we want, put whichever names to it as you wish to build your copium.

 No.291521

Actually it's all predetermined by family and environment in which you grow up, so your life pretty much predetermined from the very beginning. Don't bother with it. You'll die anyway, to me it seems it's good enough to at least not die a sociopath. Everything else doesn't matter.

 No.291745

yeah, having connections is everything in life. You can be jobless one day and make a call and the next day you will be working a nice job. In every sphere even academic those who know that someone who will help them get ahead in life.



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 No.289573[Reply]

Older wizzie here, I spend a good decade on psych meds and constantly trying to work past my autism. It doesn't work, here's some advice for you high functioning spergs that are suffering.

1. Make dealings with the fact you'll never have a wife, girlfriend and children, and psychologically accept it. The crab blackpill stuff with autism is 100% correct, it is harder for us than someone with schizophrenia. I'm someone tall and good looking enough to be asked out by succubi in the past, but it doesn't work out as they ghost you the second they work out what you are.

2. If you have to socialize, socialize with old people. They're more forgiving than younger normalfags. Retirement homes advertise chatting and talking to the elderly, if you need to get your social fix in, you could easily sate the urge with that. They won't be mean to you and they'll be desperate for your company. If you're an extroverted aspie who needs socialization, have a grandma/grandpa or two you go and see every second day. You will absolutely make their day, and you'll be able to talk to someone in a safe environment.

3. Get offline. Computer addiction destroys aspies, and we're susceptible to porn addiction and absolutely depraved coomery. If you're NEETing you can easily spend 12+ hours a day doomscrolling. We're all trannying out at rapid rates because we're susceptible to that brainrot.

4. A part time job where you work alone is preferable to NEETdom. But make sure it is alone, you must always find work where you're alone. You will be victimized because of your condition in hyper-social normie workplaces, guaranteed. Even if you weren't at school, you will be at work. Autists are typically fine at school but suffer at work to the point where 85% of us live on NEETbux.

5. Understand that there's nothing in the normalfag life that will actually make you happy. I did it all, I pushed myself to the limits trying to suppress and overcome my autism. I lived a life that for a while could be considered normie. It will not satisfy you and it won't make you happy. Find a healthy routine and stick to it.

6. Kacazynski-maxx if you can. If you can live in the countryside with a bit of land, do it. Having a small garden, going fishing, being in nature and having a dog will make you pretty happy by yourself. I was my happiest the less I used screens and the more outdoors I was.
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 No.289632

>>289610
My country in Europe is being destroyed so hard by inflation and lack of wage increases, even local Doordashing is becoming infeasible as less and less people order food to their homes.

And it's the only gig economy/app job available. People are simply running out of money.

 No.289642

>>289612
Okay instead of being a faggot that just lobs criticisms, why don't you tell me exactly what I've gotten wrong and why?

That's such a normalfag thing to do. Just lie back and smugly assert "well you don't know anything". It's intolerable in real life and it's insufferable on here.

 No.289644

There is a certain type of high functioning autist who is basically just a mega nerd and his autism allows him deep interest into a particular area and that unlocks high paid nerd jobs which unlocks kinda ugly nerd pussy, otherwise I don't really see much to disagree with. I don't know why they're giving you a hard time.

 No.291464

>>289612
You can confirm my ass. Recognized as normalfaggpot or worse and hated as filth.

Back to kiwifarms or wherever cesspool you belonged to before coming here inside.

 No.291744

Good thread, OP. Especially for young people.



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 No.287651[Reply]

I'm literally repulsive, I've been doing it since pre-K. You have your quiet nerd introvert types, and they are inoffensive and can be friends with others like them. And then you have the true freaks, that no one, not even nerds can stand to be around.

I guess its classic Aspergers. Like if I was going to start with a list of my traits that annoy people, it would be a list down the DSM V. Obsessiveness, fixation, monologuing, inability to read people, inappropriate sense of humor. Its like I get so fixated on topics. And even if I'm trying to avoid my own aspie fixations, and talk about someone else's interest in the weather, I'll lecture on the theory of meteorology.

Even on the internet when I'm just text on the screen, even right here on Wizchan, I find myself annoying people and becoming X-guy. Even on the most innocuous topics I attract negative attention and irritate people. If I only talked about the weather they'd say oh look cloud-poster is at it again.

Not only have I never had a friend, I've never had anyone want to have a conversation with me for 5 minutes. Tons of times, I think we've having friendly chitchat, making a good connection, they are intrigued by me. But the proof is in the pudding. And however good I think an interaction went, no one ever wants to chat another 5 minutes with me at another time.

I think of myself as an open-minded guy, willing to chat with anyone about virtually any topic, and be friendly about it. Somehow millions of guys with terrible nasty personalities somehow have friends.

I also have a retard, monotone, flat lisp. And I'd blame it on that, except that I have the same experience even as just text on a screen. It just seems so terrible to be around me. Yet if I'm honest, I can't stand listening to 10 seconds of my voice on recording. So I don't have much tolerance for me either.
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 No.291569

>>290905
>And if anything for decades I had too much self-confidence. I believed there was good and charm in me, and that I just needed to put myself out there. Yet the more peers got to know me the more they disliked me
I used to think that I just need more practice socializing and that I'm just shy in social situations as if it could be fixed any moment, failing to accept my neurodivergence. The worst thing for me was my fathers constant gaslighting, he would always convince me that everything is normal and that im just shy and I would get into bad situations all the time, he also told therapists that im different at home and not 'shy' because I would sperg out and go on schizo ramblings at home and he thought that's proof that im normal at home lol. If I just had one person who actually was interested in me and honest then I could have made progress way earlier because I wasted years trying to fix something that can't be fixed.

 No.291574

>>291568
>Their behavior just turns nasty instantly.
Because they dehumanize you, consciously or subconsciously. You shouldn't waste time at all seeking friendships with neurotypicals unless you come across one who you have genuine chemistry with and is a decent person.

That's not to say spergs can't be cruel, but you're more likely develop something at least with your kin.

 No.291578

>>291568
I can often identify fellow autists instantly by their voice, gait, body language.
Neurotypicals react to it instinctively and interpret it in very strange ways, such as thinking you're intentionally rude, suspicious or disgusting

 No.291736

have you tried cognitive therapy, OP?

 No.291737

>>291736
Once a long time ago I was recommended to do that for impulsivity. Do you think it's good?



 No.291258[Reply]

I'm too stubborn to love myself there is no reason to. No foundation or qualities just a thing that exists. I feel there is a loving hand placed on me begging me to let it in but I can't bring myself to it. Maybe there is something about loving your lower being before accepting the higher being. But not all lower state of beings are equal for everyone. Some are ambitious and driven, others are able to take charge and intimidate. Then there are those who are subhuman. Then what is my higher self if it is not my own desired image. A subhuman who isn't angry? I want more to life than this more to my identity than just being happy, I want a sense of foundation of who I am, accomplishments, a bit of control and charisma or at least intelligent. Like Hitler, or Lenin, Karl marx, Napoleon just anything other than this mundane existence. Could care less about their political stance it's the determination that I admire. It's not the power I want it's the tools that get me the power. Then I would feel content with myself enough to accept this loving hand of grace. It knocks but I can't open. It's not that I refuse to open it it's just so foreign to just let go of a deep desire. This hand shown me how trivial it is but it doesn't mean i am still not satisfied of how I am made. What now?

 No.291259

It's literally crazy to think you should play the leading role in history like Napoleon or something. I can relate to being a subhuman though. Ultimately all my problems come down to being weak and incapable.

 No.291314

>>291259
I know it's absurd but at least a small raid or clan that I can start in a game I play or something temporary like that. But not even that. I just want to be the spear head for something and I guess that where my tendency to cause mischief comes from

 No.291731

Well, is there anything that you like about yourself?



 No.290820[Reply]

Im so tired of democracy and how giving life to a dysgenic mutt to be socially criticized for being "lazy" or "stupid" with a life of unfulfillment and emotional issues is objectively better than eugenics. The same douchebags that look down on us advocate to allow people like us to breed. Not to mention the whores YES WHORES AS IN LIKE ALL FUCKING FEMALES have a temper when you suggest they get sterilized. The SAME WHORES who look down on us the product of MUH FREEDOM AND BODILY AUTONOMY. and punish us for existing from the shit genes they gave us. it pisses me off the level of hypocrisy and sadism. Them having periods isnt enough suffering to equivelate to our suffering. Society is still sympathetic towards them and their issues so its not enough. They dont deserve human rights AT ALL if what the abominations they create arent human at all. Yes I see our kind "subhuman mutts" like me as disgusting but at least I am the sympathy enough to get a vasectomy I sympathize for them so much NOT TO GIVE LIFE TO THEM not to GIVE LIFE TO THEM AND THEN PUNISH THEM. IM SO SICK OF THEM THEIR ENTITLEMENT TO REPRODUCE NEEDS TO END NOW. I HATE THEM SO MUCH NO WORDS CAN EXPRESS MY HATRED. FUCKING NIGGER SPAWNS FUCK YOU I HOPE YOU GET RAPED BY THE SOULS OF THE ABORTED MUTTS YOU CONVIEVED AND BIRTHED, IN HELL YOU FUCKING WHORES.

 No.290826

>>>/b/ I guess

 No.290899

>>290820
not a bad wish, wizard friend.

 No.291730

when you get to age 50 you can finally cast a global sterile curse, warlock



 No.289941[Reply]

I've always felt like there is a specific subgroup of people that were born to be successful, and the rest are those who gaslight themselves into thinking that their lives are “decent” or those who simply lost hope. No specific talents or aspirations, no deep connections with others.
There are even specific voices that people find pleasant to listen to, while others have to find ways to make themselves heard. At some point I wanted to be heard too. I had Ideas, I had Opinions or Wants.
I live invisibly, cutting off all of my “relationships” before they even start, because I understand that my mental state is a barrier from anything healthy. IF people like me disappear, it wouldn’t change much: it is not a corny feeling, it is an actual fact.
I am now physically sick whenever I am at my workplace, so I quit a week ago. Antisocial and anxious thoughts got the best of me, I guess.
I have a plan and conditions ready to end my life, and I am not bitter about it anymore. Just was curious to maybe hear from other deeply alienated people like myself.
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 No.289978

>>289944
>how are your days as a NEET going?
Not very good I'm looking for the most reliable suicide method

 No.289982

>>289958
That might have been the word OP was looking for yet that doesn't change the essence of what he was trying to say.

 No.290064

>>289959

Yeah but those guys dont have it made. Tall, good looking men with good paying Office Jobs have it made. Its like bragging youre tall at 6’1. No, youre tall at 6’4

 No.290073

>>290064
Foid hands typed this.

 No.291729

success is genetic but this is hard to accept for the dumb masses of lying norpers.



 No.288457[Reply]

Back in High School I tried to cope with doing hobbies outside, to participate in normalfag activities because I wanted to at least give the bluepilled advice a go, I knew in the back of my mind it would not work and to nobody's surprise, the expectations are exactly what occurred, it resulted in nothing but utter humiliation. I played for a football academy back in High School and whilst I was decent at it I was treated poorly by my teammates, did not make a single friend there even though I contributed a lot to the stats of the team, we even made it very far into the tournament, after that incident I was discouraged to make friends because no matter how much meritocratic value is under your hands you are worthless to everyone, unless you're a prodigy your efforts are worthless.

Going outside has not improved my health but only worsen it, it has done the opposite effect, it makes me feel more worthless, more worse overall, a complete abomination, it reminds me of what I look like which is the opposite of what I'm trying to achieve. If you're an ugly midget subhuman like me then don't go outside and if you have to then try to limit it as much as possible because other people will remind you of your own flaws.

For ugly midgets like me, I think it's better to stay home and play video games. Don't go outside unless you have to. Make sure all of your hobbies are in solitude, experience surreal dimensions through novels, animes and video games. Outdoor hobbies can be selectively chosen, ones that don't include many people, walk through national parks in those isolating tracks because not much people are there, it's a great cope to view nature as a wiz. If you have the privilege, then work remote or at least hybrid, if you can't do this then get into a field of work that requires a limited interaction of others, if you are even more privileged then NEET but I would not suggest this as its damaging to your health in the long run.

There's no point going to malls, restaurants or visiting popular tourist sites like the Eiffel tower, it is super damaging to your brain being in places surrounded by normalfags. Just watch the YouTube video of it or visit the Minecraft version.
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 No.289547

>>289531

>It's a lie that humans are social animals


How is it a lie?

 No.289548

>>289547
Not that poster, but it is a lie. It only applies to neurotypicals.
The only reason a neurodivergent needs other people is for food production, or should a grave illness fall upon them, a doctor.

Not everyone needs to be around people or talk to them, or spend time with them.
For a lot of people (like me), it's a huge energy drain which requires weeks of recharging just to be around a bunch of people for 3 hours.

I don't count wizchan as socializing. I just read it for interesting posts a few times a week for about 15 minutes and then I quit. I could live without it, it's just the only website that is worth reading.

I've gone years previously without talking to anyone or viewing any forum/imageboard. I didn't go crazy or feel pain or whatever normies feel when they are isolated for 24 hours.
It was peaceful, relaxing and ordinary for me.

 No.289570

>>289548
ND here, reads correct enough to me. I do enjoy interacting with people (everyone here does or they should re-examine why they seek a forum over books, it's not a big deal to enjoy it.) but there is not the sense of a fundamental need in order to be happy behind it.

I find that with stillness and without the thoughts and perspectives of others, I naturally gravitate towards confidence and happiness. Only through other people are these really dragged down.

However I believe the "social animal" idea is tied to the need to rely on each other to survive at all. Which is where it cannot be denied. Self-sufficiency is a rarely practiced art. And of course it would be, only families have children and so each time the decision to become self-sufficient is a deliberate step away from community into solitude, it contains friction, it is un-obvious. Doubt even 1% of posters here have even seriously considered it due to the difficulty and frankly rather arbitrary challenge it is. It is far easier to live amongst people. Thank you grocery stores that do delivery, amen.

 No.289661

I've never been happier than spending time in my room doing whatever I want.

 No.291728

>>289531
same. My life got better when I went full asocial recluse.



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 No.291722[Reply]

Share this where you can, if it should be shared. Say Anon wrote it or Ignoto.


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 No.291558[Reply]

"Such deaths are one of the oddly distributed taxes that are levied against gigantic change."
https://archive.org/details/the-future-of-suicide-1938
Previous thread:
>>283706
>>287308

 No.291559

Why create a new thread when the others didn't even hit the bump limit?

Anyways, I'm not killing myself.

I love the wizard life and that's never going to change :D

 No.291560

>>291559
Bottom post is only noticed by those who scroll down. I hope that's true. This is recognition not offered by people in his place today. And any who are oddly taxed "with the old supports gone and leading strings snapped" are no less so if they don't kill themselves.

 No.291618

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Artists' suicides come before the future and the complex difficulty of the time.

 No.291721

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"It must inevitably take its place as the standard work on suicide."



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 No.288210[Reply]

Maybe they're right all along.
Whenever im forced to interact with normalfags, it feels like theyre finding me repulsive and looking at me in a sense of disgust or hate. that they sense that there has to be something truly wrong with me that i cannot sense or fully comprehend my self, it feels all the faults about my self that i already can see is confirmed by others, but there is something they sense more about me than my self. it feels all these people who mentally tormented me all these years were right, because they are all living their lives now surrounded by family and friends while im here left to rot in my own prison. theyve won and ive lost, but whenever i try to join their normalfag world just to stop taking so many L's in life, copy their mannerism and speak like them, it comes out as unnatural or forced and i end up feeling exhausted then isolating my self from society even more, because that would never work, they would still be able to see through me no matter what and they can all sense of how much of a loser I am. Whenever i share any of my interests or thoughts it feels like i am humilating my self.
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 No.291700

>>291684
Use the emergency gate, bruh: https://www.holotropic.com/holotropic-breathwork/about-holotropic-breathwork/

I do not dare to pay such a big sum but I wonder, will it be too dangerous if I try this just by myself under untrained supervision?

 No.291702

>>291687
I don't agree with your assessment, but I do agree with 291686.

Most wizards I've talked to are almost absolutists, i.e. they don't use any kind of intoxicants. If they do it's the rare beer or glass of whiskey or something not intended to get you drunk.

I've also noticed many if not most neurodivergents are really against intoxication.
Normies are the ones fueling drug and alcohol consumption.

 No.291703

>>291700
>breathing
Sorry, but I am very skeptical about claims such as
>Holotropic Breathwork® is a powerful approach to self-exploration and personal empowerment that relies on our innate inner wisdom and its capacity to move us toward positive transformation and wholeness.
and as much as I'd like to, I can't perceive them as anything but shameless scam. I have no idea what will happen to you if you try to breathe, nor do I care. You can try breathing and then report to us if that helped. On a glance, it seems like it might be dangerous, because air contains many viruses and bacteria, and if you breathe, you let them in.

>>291702
I have never been able to make any such estimates, but it might make sense that wizards are more sided with spiritual search, while unwizards are more sided with sensory seeking. I indeed consider sensory seeking to be inferior and I am indeed never did so much as hold hands with the demons. The only pitfall here is that I can not coherently explain my point of view and it seems to exist on somewhat implicit level. I remember a lainon saying that a typical depressed lainon is a male otaku crazed on the basis of having waifu and addicted to using a buttplug. Then I come here and watch people obsessed with hating particular demographics, obsessing over succubi, social statuses, lookism, who call themselves wizards and fight for their lives to defend this title. Aye, sorry, but I can't help, but feeling sorry for these guys. A soul-crushed man with his face in tears, who nonetheless does not lower himself to that is understandable and forgivable. Turning yourself into an animal isn't.

 No.291710

>>291703
You used all those to say that breathing is unhygienic?

I am having a boring day, too

 No.291711

>>291703
you can use it to hallucinate. It's a real thing



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