/wiz/ - Wizardry

>Some news portals were talking about
Any links?
>employing ex-convicts by providing shelter, food, a job and other opportunities, while many people my age have difficulties finding a job at McDonald's or any other shitty job to start their career
That's equity, a part of a liberal agenda. The "disadvantaged" (Criminals and people who have made poor health decisions) being given more opportunities than the "advantaged" (Healthy, straight-edge young people). It's the idea that certain people deserve more because they were treated poorly by past systems, in this case people who were in prison for crimes are considered abused and exploited because the current governments consider prison to be inhumane. They're rewarded with care and opportunities as a reparation for the supposed injustice of having to do time for their crime. Meanwhile you, someone who've never committed a crime, never had to experiences to hardship and unfairness that Leftists consider prison to be, so you get nothing. Companies such as McDonalds are given tax cuts and kickbacks for hiring these "underprivileged" groups, usually in the form of wage subsidization. So McDonald's doesn't have to pay these criminals' wages, but rather your tax dollars do.
>dealing with mental health issues and so on
You're too young to be believing in that shit. The stress of being young will pass; it's not some lifelong anxiety you'll need to bear the burden of forever. You're not mentally ill.
>because we are treated as lazy even when no one wants to lend a hand.
That's what the people voted for. You'll be wise to begin learning a trade. The passages to independence that were built for you by your ancestors were taken over by people who hate you. You'll need to cut your own path.

Because we live in a world of abundance with a welfare state. In olden times pro-social people tended to survive and anti-social people were rapidly culled, and people were family orientated to a much larger degree.

Prison is useless and should be abolished

Murderers and rapists should be euthanized just like we do with angry dogs
Thieves and drug dealers should receive a pecuniary sanction
Vandals and deranged individuals should be sent to community houses

Because a violent nigger is still more likely to contribute to society than a depressed neet.

>>226670
You're not thinking this through. Conservatives also benefit from rehabilitation instead of desperate ex cons being releases "into the wild" after prison and realizing they have nothing to lose by murdering or kidnapping some random rich boomer.

Having McDonald's hire them isn't exactly a bad outcome considering all the possible outcomes of a person being released into society after 15 years of prison.

>>226669
>Some news portals were talking about employing ex-convicts by providing shelter, food, a job and other opportunities

Prison makes it impossible to get opportunities so unless it's part of the sentence, they need the help

>>226675
This. OP and other extremists have no answers except retarded "let's kill everyone" scenarios even Taleban doesn't adhere by.

Literally everyone in society benefits if those people get an apartment and a minimum wage job instead of robbing and murdering randoms.

>>226672
>Vandals and deranged individuals should be sent to community houses

to community cottages - tower blocks are not too good for several vandals vandalizing floors one against another

>>226669
Society benefits wrongdoers because doing so is an integral part of the sham. By rehabilitating some individuals society can effectively gloss over the structure that led to those people in the first place. Criminals/felons are also treated similarly to homeless and disenfranchised as one of lowest rungs on the social ladder that can be pointed to. The implicit warning is do as your betters say or you'll end up like them.

Mentally ill people (who are poor, it usually goes hand in hand) are basically a lost cause. I say that as one myself.
>>226671
Do you want to be forced to breed?

>>226669
Quick snappy answer: the society havent caught up with the fact urban life ruins the chances to mate (which makes crabs sad) all while also failing to realize not wanting to mate can also be normal for a crowded city (which makes volcels sad)

>Do you want to be forced to breed?


>>226673
>Because we live in a world of abundance with a welfare state. In olden times pro-social people tended to survive and anti-social people were rapidly culled, and people were family orientated to a much larger degree.

I disagree, life in big cities was not good for families with many kids. For thousands of years, the reproductive number in big cities was below 2.

>>226681
This assumes the demonstrably false premise that crime is purely a function of economic opportunity. It isn't. The vast majority of violent criminals are serial recidivists. They do it because they are stupid and violent by nature.

>>226669
Lately I have noticed a certain degree of utilitarianism among both the NPCs and policy makers. Among other things, this means that for them the past doesn't matter, just the future. Justice is not a consideration that has any weight for them. This means that when dealing with criminals, the top priority is "rehabilitation" and generally ensuring that they will not return to prison and instead be productive somehow. If you are a good boy already, there is no need to help you, in fact it is advantageous to let you struggle, because then there will be more people occupying the lower classes. If they could just straight up pay them to be nice, they would, and you they will tax to pay for it, because you won't do shit about it anyways.

look up how absence of father causes crabness…

should you do a little digging, demons who abandon own spawns will be shunned as crab makers… Bonus points if your bring up Zootopia and how carnivores tend to be raised by mothers only while herbivores tend to stay together.

>>227044
Humans were never created for big cities. take the naturepill anon

>>227670
yeah…

A "nicest human you'll ever meet": *dies in pain while doctors inject adrenaline and such, breaking ribs by performing CPR because *must! try! once! more!*
A "twisted fucking psychopath": while normies expect this piece of meat to *feel* some remors by making this piece of meat die in a room with soulless automatic injector systems, said psychopath gets to die as painlessly as possible, because the alternative is ostensibly cruel

>>227671
being a psychopathy must be fucking awesome
>you are romanticizing it
im not you stupid faggot i really wish i were one.
The "feelings" just make humans slower and weaker

>>226669
I always wondered this too. Why they limit certain support programs and opportunities so heavily.
It feels like it's a bit too easy to fall between the cracks.
If you aren't an absolute menace, or hit rock bottom, but in a SPECIFIC way then you are out of luck.

The normie path of going to college or secondary education, getting a trade etc. is also set up in my country for either the young, or the absolutely f'd.
Like, you can only do most if not all of it during the day, in normal "school hours" 8-14 so if you have a job you can't better yourself.
You are stuck being a low skill serf.
If you are some kind of specially screwed person, a criminal or an addict there are rehabilitation programs available that aren't open to anybody else.
So you either have your life on rail or get derailed hard so you can be blessed with an opportunity.

If you are just some middle of the road you are left to rot I guess.

All in all, I can understand why most resources go to making something of a fresh youth instead of a 30 year old that has a track record of being a loser.
But then the contrast of supporting literal criminals is painful.

>>227777
nice digits

There will come a day, when the flowers won't bloom.
There will come a day, that blossoms doom.
There will come a day.
There will come a day.
There will come a day.
Shadilay. Shadilay.

There will come a night.

Shadilay.

>>227622
This strategy does not work in iterated games, and real life is an iterated game. When people start to understand your approach, the will try to exploit it, and succeed. This can already be seen with, for example, gangs of middle easterners in europe using teens for their hitmen - because they know everyone just goes free at 18. just use some 15 year old to kill your enemies consequence-free.

You could flip this around and end up with a bit of a worrying conclusion;

"What is the benefit of being an upright and moral person?"

per Disco Elysium; "Honour points", wherein you leave opportunities on the table and form the arch of honours to reward yourself.

Working out how to be an uncaught, advantage collecting rogue is probably the most important skill set in the modern era.

>>227777
The main reason is because people in the middle (not so educated to work and not so rotten to be institutionalized) are considered parasites by society. It's way harder to be a poor person than a criminal.

>>226669
Society moves backwards that's rather clear.

The issue with felons is when left to their own devices have a high risk of recidivism, and since most crime, especially violent crime, is committed by a relatively small number of repeat offenders it's beneficial to at least try to rehabilitate them rather than shut them out of the job market.

Modern youth unemployment is an actual travesty however and the problem being more diverse and widespread makes it difficult. Also, I think part of the issue is unemployed young people just don't draw much sympathy from society, or fear in the case of felons and thus there's less pressure to effectively help them; hell even the threat of crab chimpouts the media likes to play up are seen more as akin to natural disasters.

If you live in a first world country, there is usually some kind of follow up by the system after someone is released from prison, whether they are working, how they are doing, etc. It isn't out of empathy or even for their benefit, more like security and see if they start doing criminal shit again and they have to get locked up again. Companies sometimes view ex-cons as weak and as an easy source of cheap labour.

>>228479
>Companies sometimes view ex-cons as weak and as an easy source of cheap labour.
That sounds like some made up trope from American 80s movies, but it's the conclusion you'd come to when seeing so many convicts in certain American industries. The reality is that in the first world's Liberal dystopia, governments incentivize companies to hire criminals through wage subsidization and special insurances. The government wants people with a criminal record to stay in the workforce as the sole means of rehabilitation. I'm sure it works, with not having steady income being the main driving force behind stealing things, but it has the negative side effect of causing employers to seek out criminals for the kickbacks while ignoring applications from those with a clean record. The news articles OP alludes to are true, but it's worse than MSM leads on. CANZUK is more likely to just give free housing and money to criminals while not obligating them to get jobs. This sounds good for aspiring young people, but instead our governments issue wage subsidization and other financial rewards to companies who fulfill mandatory employee race quotas with immigrants of a certain skin color.

>>226669
because ex-convicts are dangerous, if they experience homelessness and don't have money to buy food (let's not even talk about drug/alcohol addictions) they're going to rob someone.
having a job also keeps them busy so they don't get involved into gang business.
>>226672
prison is indeed useless, it should be replaced with labor camps.
only people who are disabled or seriously ill get sent to prison, the rest have to work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, that way it would save taxpayers money, have them repay their debt to society and it would serve as an actual deterrence.

>>226669
Because we gave succubi rights, and they are attracted to low IQ violent thugs.

>>228485

no big suprise there.

>>228485
True. Any wizard who doubts that should check out female oriented fiction, especially the one amateurish writeressesses write for other succubi online. I've beat my meat to lots of different shit throughtout the years but even the darkest creation of japanese bastards who create smut for perverts pale in comparison to all the rape, torture, sadism and other gruesome shit they shlick to. Like gangsters killing off fMC families, kidnapping them, torturing them but it's alright thought, the gangster falls in love and simply chokes and beats her lovingly.
If you realize that this is just the average female fantasy, then all we see in this cursed society makes perfect sense.

>>228489
>>228485
People don't understand that callousness, yelling and indifference to others are signals of status, because historically, displaying that behavior got your head kicked in if you were low on the pecking order. Most normal people still have instincts that keep that behavior in check because we're wired for a different society, but the punishment is gone. Some unemployed druggie sadist can go fuck with a wagie for sport, mistreating him, and the wagie can't do anything back without risking his job. Despite on paper the wagie being above the delinquent, succubi respond to the person doing the berating.

Being too friendly and too agreeable is also a signal of low status, because that behavior is typically only done by neurotypicals if they're at risk of expulsion. Even in real life, when I see someone non-autistic who is TOO nice, he almost always is either planning a backstab, is in a precarious position with employment or has some filthy secret he's kept hidden, typically a sex crime.

The egalitarian play-nice leveling that society has attempted has just exacerbated the situation and made it worse, and lead to the blackpill. Obviously succubi don't find agreeable and over-socialized men attractive, and while socialization to society's values was once a good trait that lead to positive results, now it leads to deleterious results. The end result is that people turn to cynical and cold explanations (the blackpill), and shred their pro-social outlook.

Society was a lot worse and a lot more brutal not too far into the past, and it was typically pro-social people that survived. I feel like blackpillers and crabs can't really look past the specifics of the modern era. Part of the reason white and east asian societies are so relatively safe and corruption free is because the anti-social elements repetitively got pruned.

>>228480
>That sounds like some made up trope from American 80s movies
I don't think you really comprehend how these corpo eggheads think, they prey on handicapped and illegals too
an independent uncucked adult male homeowner worker is a nightmare scenario for them

>>228489
I believe you are looking at the evidence wrong. Yes there is a lot of female oriented fiction that is dark and very disgusting, but most is just romantic light sex stuff. It's like if someone said men have deep dark psyches based on some fucked up loli hentai some weirdos are into. Its just cherry picking

>>228495
>Part of the reason white and east asian societies are so relatively safe and corruption free is because the anti-social elements repetitively got pruned.

Because the corruption was systemic and participation in the system made/makes it socially acceptable - but you're right about everything else.