/wiz/ - Wizardry

https://boards.4chan.org/x/thread/41462930

yes. true.
simplify.
make them simplex.

>>227041
>Sigils
I'm almost certain that anyone here don't practice magic or ceremonial magic or chaos magic or postmodern magic here.
it's Wizardry of Wizard, not wizard of magick or wizard of Wizardry dungeon crawler game.
I think it would be better if you move this to another place or hobbies.
>Also
making sigils isn't difficult, just don't swallow any of the plebbit 4chan garbage. You just have to believe, and that's it. The ritualism or embellishments you add later are just for show. Theories about the psychological unconscious or things of the universe are just additions, embellishments, fluff unnecesary things. Nothing more.
the things are simple and you can make all up bacause its a pure DIY thing if you want to make it.
Sometimes you won't even get what you want, but you will get something like relief from intrusive thoughts or stupid or unnecessary desires or want. It's quite liberating once you learn how to use it. Not everything is for material goals.
but rather for human development and, in the long run, a humanizing process.

try Penrose's Non-repeating pattern to make sigils with special potentia

>>227078
>>227078
>I'm almost certain that anyone here don't practice magic or ceremonial magic or chaos magic or postmodern magic here.

Actually i used to be into the occult in my 20s, i tried sigils but none of them ever worked though. im more into atrology these days

>>227083
I have a question for you: does astrology really show how a person will live, and is it possible to change anything in life? Or does it not reveal a person's path and destiny? And is it possible to change it? I also recently started studying astrology, and my chart, especially the nodes, is really bothering me, preventing me from doing anything in life. What I want and have become very paranoid about astrology.

>>227084
Do Sidereal Astrology, set mula to Galactic Equator IAU 1958 or Gal Equator 0° Sag, and set house system to Equal Houses MC. This will tell you exactly where the stars were when you were born, as opposed to tropical which is outdated by 2000 years, and make the house placements completely even.

I look at my Saturn placements and Pluto placements. These two planets force the native to face the darkest parts of life, or generally weigh very heavily on them. If you want motivation, look at Jupiter placements, it will tell you what motivates you the most.

Don't take interpretations from strange, melodramatic people who eroticize everything. Trust one source, or use ChatGPT (although its kind of an ass-kisser). Use your intuition. Generally I find astrology kind of cringe, but it can help if you're feeling helpless and it can be a fun way to organize your fictional characters (or derive inspiration from).

I recently discovered that I have an extremely powerful but aggressive mind. For me to learn, I have to battle others with concepts, question everything that I'm learning and learn the foundational laws/ideas that make something happen. Basically a mental battleground of ideas (and I completely agree). But I've been too scared and expecting discomfort because I was heavily suppressed in school, by talentless hacks and by smug overexplaining retards who don't operate on the same level as me. Astrology won't tell you about this suppression, but it will tell you what you may or may not have.

>>227084
>>227088
Sorry, same poster as 227088, I forgot to add something.

The nodes will tell you how you reach your destiny. The North Node shows you how you were destined to begin your life or how your destiny begins, while South Node represents how you complete each cycle of your growth/cycle of your destiny/how you mature through the North Node.

For example, if you have North Node in the 3rd house, you will begin getting closer to your ideal life through communication, ideas, learning and mental activity. This will immediately place South Node in the 9th due to polarity, which means you will mature by extracting wisdom from the patterns you've seen, creating your own belief system, coming to intense realizations about morality, pursuing higher education, etc.

But take it with a grain of salt. Astrology isn't an exact science and it can vary greatly between people to people.

>>227088
>Do Sidereal Astrology, set mula to Galactic Equator IAU 1958 or Gal Equator 0° Sag, and set house system to Equal Houses MC.
How to do this with calculators? Or i need to do it by hand?
I accumulating info of my chart like sun, rising-ascendent- moon and planets, houses.
I dont know about the other things but I reading some books.
>Also
Yes, I sceptic about this bacause of Forer effect, woo-woo and etc but there's "something" about some thing about my rising sign characteristic and some houses that make a "tic" in my shit life and i dont know a shit about astrology.
I keep reading but i dont know much, i used some chat IA for questions but maybe i need to do that thing of 2000 years. I born on 2002. i dont like this era.

>>227088
Hey, could you explain why you interpret the nodes this way? You wrote that the North Node is the beginning of the path/entrance to destiny, and the South Node is the end of the cycle. Is this your personal system, or are you basing it on something else? Because they usually say that movement is directed towards the North Node, and the South Node is just habit or past experience. By the way, believe it or not, I originally wanted to ask about my nodes, and you described them. And I believe that coincidences are not random, so I'll ask my main question: my North Node is in the 3rd house in Virgo, the South Node is in the 9th house in Pisces. The main planets (Sun, Mercury, Jupiter) are in the 8th house in Pisces, the Moon is in the 7th house in Aquarius and in the 12th house in Cancer. I want to seriously get involved in magic, especially working with spirits and the astral plane, but I read that the South Node in the 9th house is my past experience, and I should not get involved in the occult - roughly speaking, I should learn to live among crabs and communicate with them or comprehend the basics, and not delve into my fantasies and magic.

>OP here.
Amazing. You find magicians even on a wizard forum. We are everywhere.

>>227093
You can call the craft of Astrology an occult science. It is not supposed to be used as a means to predict the future, but to check what you had when you were born; and how to change upon it. This is where Sigils come into play as part of the yellow beam of Chaos Magick. Yellow-Black Magick.
I think the play with Sigils can really make you aware of what you want in life and let go of the desires. And… in my experience they do work. And I have a clue as of why. You always pay. And some simply incarnate with a lot of "money". While others don't. Best not waste it. My introspections. Nothing is absolute. And it depends heavily on what you "buy". If you charge them, another wish has to die, as Austin Osman Spare put it. You can buy a car, or you can buy Real Estate. What do you buy? I recommend Enlightenment and Wisdom.

>>227094
Also: this chan is super retarded as it said that my post looks automated.

>>227091
nice BOS, btw.
I prefer the dotted ones.

>>227092
some use the vedic system, while others use the ancient greek system.
different system, different sciences. and the stars change. vedic system is calculating the change of the stars in.

>>227081
thanks. i like mathematical models to ensure my sigils all look different.
got any more?

>>227096

Lissajous curve

>>227097
marbleing…

>>227091
I was born in 2002 aswell. I use astro.com > Free Horoscopes > Horoscope Drawings & Data > Extended Chart Selection. There you'll see all sorts of shit. I also use Astroseek when I wanna calculate dominant planets, and it has a wide variety of options aswell.

>>227092
I interpreted this based on personal experience, but generally yeah it can go from North to South and South to North, its like a looping feedback chain and some people have one direction more prominent than the other.

I have Scorpio South Node in the 9th aswell, and this isn't about 'not getting involved in the occult', it's more about developing your own belief systems through communication, exploration of ideas and pattern recognition via 3rd North Node. You have it in Virgo, which is a very strong placement for the mind and shows you'd excel in critical mental work.

You said you have your Sun and Mercury in the 8th, that's the most perfect and barebones placement for occult studies. Even though your mercury is kind of weak in Pisces (Pisces prefers following ideas, impulses and intuition over criticality), that doesn't change the fact that you have a very sharp and penetrating mind, possibly an extremely sharp subconcious mind. Jupiter amplifies everything and shows how you learn best, so what feels effortless and closest to your natural self-expression is how you'd learn.

Your moon makes you detached and objective, if its in the 7th then you learn best from conversations or interpersonal associations, so I'd reccomend you immerse yourself in online occult communities (avoid real life ones, they're degenerate), and watch what others do on top of extracting information from your own work.

You have everything you need to excel in the occult. If you're using tropical, then your actual sidereal placements would be in Aquarius which is a sign that's a bit more objective. But either system will tell you the same thing, as Pisces/Aquarius aren't all too different in the way they navigate the world.

And for the last sentence, you can absolutely indulge in your fantasies. It's a great way to build your inner world and sense of self. You don't have to be around people you don't like, just watch what they do from afar and notice patterns in their behavior.

>>227100
>>227092
>>227091

Oh, I also wanna add, between 1997-2003, I think Uranus and Neptune were in Capricorn, and Pluto was in Scorpio. This is using the sidereal system. In Tropical it would be Aquarius/Saggitarius respectively. But either way, your Sun would be squaring Pluto and possibly be in sextile with Uranus/Neptune. These are excellent placements for occult studies.

>>227088
>Do Sidereal Astrology, set mula to Galactic Equator IAU 1958 or Gal Equator 0° Sag, and set house system to Equal Houses MC. This will tell you exactly where the stars were when you were born, as opposed to tropical which is outdated by 2000 years, and make the house placements completely even.
Ok i did that with astroseek sideral astrology custom options but I confused now.
Its a Vedic-indian system of astrology? Bacause now I more confused.
Now I have in house 1 (here is the rising ascendant everytime) gemini when in western astrology is virgo.
I have gemini in some houses of my western chart but now, seing the other houses planets and etc (i dont know where to read info) I just got more confused. Now there are more taurus in houses.
And now my Sun is in Aries? In western is Taurus.
I dont get this, its like the dragon break un-time of the elder scrolls.
>Also
What I do now? I check the vedic system with these info or just grab the sign, houses and etc and use it in the western form? I lost and confused.

>>227104
Do things a bit slowly. Stick with the default version for now, and mess around with the sideral settings later once you got it all figured out. Just google your curiosities online, there's countless websites and articles online that tells you what each house, sign, symbol, placement, line, etc. means. Stick with this for now.

>>227102
I provided a throwaway email for a few hours but I decided, nah. I'd rather stay anonymous, lol

>>227107
I wrote to you, but if you don't want anything personal, that's okay.
Thanks

>>227108
Oh shit you actually wrote to me? I waited a whole day and I didnt even get the email…

Eh, its whatever. Maybe one day, when circumstances are more favorable. I don't have the energy for any form of interactions these days apart from fleeting imageboard encounters.

If you want more resources on astrology, you can easily find it on the internet. It doesn't hurt to mess around with free birth chart generators/astrology generators. That's how I learned most of it, been doing it since I was 13.

>>227112
I signed you up for Scientologist newsletters.

>>227041
>OP here
Sigils can be used to wish for more magick.
Use your magick on your magick.
What else is there, one can wish for?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_psychic_abilities

>>227138
>le list of psychic abilities
How can I destroy ethnic minorities with the power of my mind?

>>227140
Whites are a ~8% minority worldwide. You hate whites?

>>227142
My comment was obviously Eurocentric given the English language imageboard context you pedant

>>227144
Pretty sure most people here are from the US which means every poster has genetics from about 36 diffdrent nationalities going back 300 years.

>>227140
Can you buy a silencer for your gun before leftards ban everything? Organize yourself against being tracked.

>>227170
This post has to be next level retardation. Silencers don't make guns or bullets untraceable.

>>227177
>>227170
serialization fellas, serialization. at least on objects alone, and only objects. like guns. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

>>227041
The only sigil I really use these days is the Fjolnir stave. I came to learn of it when reading about the most famous witch trial in Iceland. This is the Kirkjubol Affair, during which a Jon Jonsson and his son Jon Jonsson junior were accused of maleficium by their parish priest Jon Magnusson. Records of this trial show the Jonssons made uncompelled confessions to a number of witchcraft-related crimes. One in particular was Jon Jonsson junior confessing to scratching the Fjolnir on his palm before shaking the pastor's hand in church, from which the pastor hot a burning sensation in his palm.

When I read this I thought to myself "Yes. This is the exact kind of energy I want to carry with me every day". And ever since that day I try to carry in my mind the idea of Wodenic violence against Christians.