/wiz/ - Wizardry

The majority of people with autism have retardation. Autism causes retardation. It is rare to see high functioning autists. Maybe they are overrepresented on the internet because the retarded ones obviously don't use the internet, but they are not in the majority. Autism is not this fun thing that gives you powers, it just makes you less capable when it comes to navigating social interactions which are incredibly important in modern society. In fact, not being able to navigate social situations well is practically crippling, far moreso than missing a limb or something.

Being able to see through normie BS is a silver lining, but not actually very useful practically. Practically it would be more useful to be oblivious like they are and just go on instinct to act like normalfags. That's what brings people the most benefit in life.

do you live with parents

Let me clarify my vision. I think that weird people, including autistic people who are rejected and anyone considered strange by neurotypical humans, should unite to overturn social norms and make humanity as a whole think. I'm talking about a cultural revolution of “social misfits.” Of course, I am aware of what this implies, but for me, social media allows us to socialize with people who are similar to us. However, the problem is that there is still this very democratic idea that Alexis de Tocqueville described in Democracy in America the idea of the tyranny of the majority against minorities and, even more so, against people who are excluded and isolated. I think we need to unite and create real unity and cohesion in order to spread this idea and replace the idea that people are weird, because these ideas eat away at us from the inside.

>>227839
lel

>>227840
why, why do you mock him so, wizbrother? can't you see the glory? can't you see the magnificent dawn marking the day this devil possessed world succumbs to the justice of our magic? imagine staying proudly atop the hill, your chin raised high, overlooking the creation of demiurge and thinking 'all this belongs to me and answers to my call'. imagine it wizbrother! how can it not stir your soul?

>>227831
Listened to your rant…

No one is "normal" as long as the list of things required to be "normal" is long enough. Some people are a tad disproportional here, there, etc. Some folks get bald early, with "wolf's ears" visible in middle school. Some dudes have hair so bushy they get ridiculously curly eyelashes. For every "autist" out there there is a air-headed person who "has overall difficulty focusing" because said person straight up lacks attention span. Cheers and take it easy.

>>227832
>Autism
Sorry my engrish
Functional autist people got support and good healthy behaviour bacause they got good socialization as young.
If you never got a good support or healthy behaviour or good socialization later your gonna go full into isolation and little by little these isolation gonna make you total retard anyway bacause social isolation make that into your brain.
I at university and at times the feeling of out of place and loniless hurt a lot.
I the autist in a poor family with no treatment in a third world country obbseded with shity freudian psychoanalysis and not science.
Yep, at times i feel like a retard in university and my attention spam maybe is not so focused in my discipline or routines.
The neurodivergent thing at this point its an insult to me.
And yes, i secretly want the feeling of human contact or the feeling of "be" like a human being with friends or a stupid girlfriend or something but i know that very little probable to happen bacause i feel like a outcast i my race and the unique way to them to treat me in a more possible way "human" or maybe normal or normie is just dont giving much info or personal info, larp or acting like normal and mimitizing in a damn stupid hardcore way the damn stupid behaviour they have just to "pass" a little. But in reality i fucking tired of this shit at times i just want to escape from this world, still the idea of love or friends or even a "job" or good utility for humanity or animals is beatiful idea and avway to live to me but… what the purpose if gonna suffer a lot and they never gonna treat me like a damn human being?
I not suicidal or deppresive, i just tired.
That's why sometimes and back in time i enjoyed a lot scapism like mmo, IRC chats, chans, reading thing, book hobbies, art and craft, listening music, etc. But i got tired of computers and artificial lights, bacause the more i go full in these worlds, the more i feel less human and more like a damn robot.
I dont want to die alone, i dont to die without love or the feeling of humanity, sometimes i feel total dehumanized and other times i just cry in plain sight but hidden in these "social acting" structure, bacause i want thing that maybe i never gonna get in this life.
The more simple i got in my approach of life, the more happy i got.

>>227831
>They restrict themselves in terms of intellectual capacity in a completely stupid way to appear socially acceptable because the norm prefers a dumb athlete to a brilliant intellectual

it is just for a while, you haven't to act like that all the time. You must to recognize the moment. Of course, you don't know this because you are socially insolated (lol)

Normies started calling all kinds of people autistic, and now lots of people believe they have autism and this causes their behavior.
It used to be a very narrowly defined psychiatric condition.

>>227832
Thank you. I'm high functioning and it's torture. Sure I'm immune to propaganda and normalfag BS as you said but otherwise I'm retarded. I like to learn about niche topics but it takes me longer to grasp concepts than an NPC. I'm functional enough to have a 'regular' albeit solitary life but too retarded to ever properly connect with anyone and I'm aware of why it is. Lower function autists either get to be blissfully unaware or are given passes for their behavior. I'd love a pass to clasp my hands over my ears and bodh slam someone next to me for being too loud but can't. Autism for me is pure agony every fucking day, a mental prison.

My spidey sense is telling me this is bait but sometimes it's hard to tell. Autists are just as intelligent as normies and as someone has already said in this thread we get more retarded for the lack of social interaction, in the past 4 years I haven't had the chance or courage to interact in an overtly or even mildly friendly manner with anyone but my mother and I've definitely felt the effects in my brain.
Even if we were more intelligent as you claim, autism makes it harder to make social connections for stuff that actually matters like bringing food to your table and not discussing boring philosophy/math/the-rapy books, intelligence in any degree is just a tool and useless if not used for your benefit. A lot of normies could have a raw intelligence greater than an autist but they just never find themselves in a position where they need to use it, they already flow through life seamlessly while the autist has to prove himself either to get some meaning or some social validation, lots of scientists and great minds are socially well-adjusted.
It's true that spergs usually have it easy to see through a lot of normie retardation but that's mostly because we are outsiders to the way the neuronormgroid brain is wired, when you group together a bunch of autists they too start engaging in their own retarded thinking that only an outsider could instantly perceive, an example of this is the extremely high correlation between trannydom and autism, the autistic brain being much more organized but so detached from the real, natural world.
The takeway from this is that being a sperg most times doesn't pay off, I wouldn't want to be the typical normgroid that we all have in mind but it's not as if I'm enjoying the autism life, if you're not born in extremely lucky circumstances life's not worth it either way.

i still have not heard a single good explanation for why this term autism should exist and what problem it solves to categorize people as autistic. to me this seems like an artificial medicalized personality to shove people towards to streamline the mistreatment of them.

what's the advantage of "autism" over "we don't know what is wrong with him". why doesn't "weird" or "has problems" is suddenly no longer good enough. is it because the solution to everything nowadays has to be an identity? you need an identity around your problems so in conversation you can first send out the identity and call me an asshole for not liking it and then explain why you are retarded.

from the perspective i have just laid out (and i don't claim it is the only perspective) autism could just be marketing and in that case my popupblock should filter it out because it is just bloat.

how is the diagnosis of autism not bloat? nobody knows, i have asked this plenty of times, never gotten anything good as a response.

the diagnosis of autism seems so petty and insignificant, so meaningless in trying to suggest nothing tangible; just attitude.

why does he make birdsounds all day?

>oh because he has autism
>oh because he is a weirdo we don't know maybe the forced vaccination experiments or maybe our water had pharmaceutical residues in it causing problems.

one does not sound better then the other. why bother with this theater? why call yourself a "facility manager" when all you do is clean toilets. just be honest and don't honor this perspective of not being a dignified human unless you have a respectable sounding -itis.

>>228986
It is a way of classifying a pattern of thought and behavior disctinct from that of normal people, even if modern psychology is a joke working for big pharma and a political agenda there's still meaning to the term. How is it possible that kids living in different parts of the world share behavior patterns and interests so out of the norm? Since these are so weird they cannot be called off as slightly different from normal it's categorized under an umbrella of everything associated with autism, if you have a lot of traits under the umbrella you get the label. There are currently so many people getting diagnosed with the tism partly because they want to make big cash from mind-numbing drugs but also there might be a correlation between the autism and mothers not giving birth until their 30s or 40s, the usual among whites and asians.

>>228988
>behavior disctinct from that of normal people
>behavior disctinct
>normal people


Implying normal people are all uniform, eh?

>>228986
Because back in 1930s the cases of autism were ruled out to be a form of early presented schizophrenia

Only in late 1940s, *they* realised a rather peculiar form of weirdness among kids, that goes without hallucinations
DOESN'T REALLY ALIGN WITH
the mental illness that comes in many types yet is known for causing hallucinations, "voices in your head", and alike.

>>227831
>Personally, I'd rather go online to investigate the Epstein case than have

The 1990s "•f•r•i•e•n•d•s•" staple of topics to discuss is long gone from being hot, mate

Basically, the "we should fix the society somehow" motto is already enough to make friends. It used to be the case in 2000s Russia, in a sense.

>>228990
I'm talking about multiple characteristic behaviours and traits on the same person, not only a few.

>>228993
Multiple? Heh. Zero, despite being an even number, is not a natural number.

If you feel your efforts aren't being rewarded as much as you think you deserve, then perhaps try something else. Intelligence isn't the only skill you can cultivate; there are plenty of other things you can do.
Life is long you have plenty of time to learn and experience lot of different stuff, it would be sad to limit yourself to just one thing for some reason.

every thread about autism or adhd has to have a conspiracy-brained retard who doesn't believe in neurodevelopmental disorders or the field of psychiatry in general

>>229223
I think some people just strive for simplicity. The thing that offends them is having the taxonomy complicated "unnecessarily" in their view. Any time you see these schizo skeptics attack ideas they always attack it on the principle that it is too complicated and we should go with simpler ideas instead. Flat earthers say it's easier to just look for yourself at how the ground appears to be rather than think about it deeply and understand why the earth isn't flat. Here we have them complaining that we've taken the nice simple concept of just calling people weird and gone around classifying them into medical syndromes. He just won't stand for that additional complexity! He won't even entertain it or look at evidence that supports that world view because it threatens the simplicity that he derives some sort of psychological comfort from.

>>229310
Pigeonholing abnormal people into contrived psych disorders is less complex than acknowledging their individuality. It encourages a stereotyped view of "disorder" among people who don't behave according to societal norms. Labeling weird people with these disorders provides people with psychological comfort due to establishing normative human behavior as healthy and deviations as disordered. Who is a psychiatrist to label me with "autism spectrum disorder" for being asocial and focused on my interests? It's just contrived nonsense to pathologize abnormality.

>>229318
So if I call your hair curly, I guess it means I must be not properly acknowledging your individuality. How dare I? You just are acting like this because the things we are observing are psychological instead of physical, but there's no difference. If you can see something that can be defined, why not do it? You're quibbling over the definition as if a broader and vaguer definition is better. It's not.

>>229319
A person's psychological makeup is too complex to be defined by these disorders. Labeling people with these encourages a restrictive, stereotyped, pathologized view of complex human behavior. It is nothing like simply describing a physical trait. Moreover, why should people who do not behave according to societal norms be pathologized? I do not accept societally normal behavior as healthy and abnormal behavior as disordered.