/wiz/ - Wizardry

there's not much you can do, it all depends on the particular psychology of your parents. you can try to minimize your footprint, contribute to the household, make yourself invisible to avoid triggering angry outbursts, but at the end of the day, none of that matters if they just decide they don't want you there. milk it as long as you can, but it will eventually end and you should think about an exit strategy (in my case it's suicide).

if you have socially conscious parents i.e. normalfags, they care a lot about how they're perceived and their kids are basically an extension of their self-image, so they will pressure you a lot to get out and have a job and all the other normalfag milestones. even though practically cost nothing and you aren't demanding or a hassle, the fact that you are a stain on their self-image is enough of a motivator for them to fuck with you. every time some friend or family member asks them about how you're doing, they're experiencing humiliation and it lowers their perceived status. at some point, kicking you out becomes a way of saving face and they can practically disown you so you no longer make them look bad.

i guess if you're stuck with such parents, you have to give them a way out, an explanation of why you're just sitting at home instead of hustling and bustling with all the other normies. sometimes you can use the "mental illness" card, your parents might be able to garner sympathy for having a sick son rather than a good-for-nothing loser. doesn't work if they don't believe in psychiatry and also most of the time forces you to take psychoactive medication that can have side-effect, plus regular visits to some form of mental health practioner. of course, this doesn't last forever, since at some point they start asking when will you be fixed, but you can buy yourself a couple years with this. another one is online university or some such program, since they can "he's focusing on his studying". the point is to help them save face somehow.

NEET life sucks bro…, go to university, NEET life sucks more when you are older

I am helping with my mom's online reselling side-gig. Mostly just packing stuff and sending it while she handle chats and manage products. Not making much money I am afraid. Profits is lower than minimum wage. I want to be able to produce some kind of goods from the comfort of my home to sell online but I have no skills.

my pereants are very easy going and dont pester me or hate me being here, my other older brother is here too.

so its good to have loving perants, but that might back fire when they keel over in the future

Basically I had a mental breakdown, got hospitalized then applied for disability. Now I receive around €942 monthly from the state, I give this sum entirely to my parents.

In this way I'm justified to stay NEET since I would lose disability if I worked and can actually pay for my bills and food.

>>228149

as someone who refuses to be part of the problem, you are a rare beautiful flower of a person and i wish nothing but good fortune, health and happiness to you.

you are one of the few people having the choice to become amazing. people with a boss can't, they will soon turn into trash because they get thrown into situations where they can only lose.

you can decide to be healthy, you can decide to learn something every day, you can watch the videos that make you understand stuff instead of those that dumb you duown, you can play the video games that broaden your horizon, you can take the drugs that make you question everything.

i want to encourage you to live an amazing life and make the best out of your time, live wisely, make good choices which benefit you long term.

non-neets can't really do that and they wish they could. they have tantrums on the inside because they can't.

>>228170
He's probably not going to do that, but I agree with you mostly. NEETs are kind of like undifferentiated stem cells that can still develop to be anything. Age hits you faster than you think though.

>>228149
That's how I usually justify it to myself too. If I'm going to be an indefinite burden on people around me, I'd just kill myself. I'm not vain enough to think I have any inherent worth. So I try to do what I can so they at least get something out of it.
Right now, that's cooking/cleaning/general house maintenance tasks.

I don't know how old you are but I guess the one tip I would give is to be wary of too much consumption. Try to make/do things if you can rather than passively consuming them. Creative/fixing stuff hobbies are nice if you can find one you like and it's easier to learn stuff when you're younger. But it really applies across the board, if you're helpless you have to pay someone to help you when the time comes that you need it. Cheaper to just have the skills to do things.

Also, pay attention to your mental health. Shit can get really bad if you aren't careful. It will probably get bad anyway but turning into a sack of potatoes as a response will only make it worse, you gotta make some effort to shake it off occasionally.

>>228151
It really does depend. My parents don't care too much about how they're perceived. Age plays into it too because I think even normalfags mellow out about a live-in helper that they just have to feed once they hit 60 or 70.

>>228170
I certainly do not deserve such praise but thank you regardless. It is an inspiring post.

>>228172
In regards to my mental state, I have been making an effort to break out of unhealthy patterns of behavior. I wake up at ten each morning, get into the sun. I try to maintain a basic but healthy diet free from junkfood. I read on a daily basis and have been trying to start a consistent meditation practice.

The most important thing is money. If you get bux, have savings or something else it typically isn't too hard to squeeze out an existence in some way without falling into homelessness. I would also avoid drugs and try to maintain basic things like food and hygiene.

>>228177
> I wake up at ten each morning, get into the sun. I try to maintain a basic but healthy diet free from junkfood. I read on a daily basis and have been trying to start a consistent meditation practice.

that's the rare flower right there! making itself bloom regardless of what wicked garden it happened to be born in that insisted the flower to be a weed. clearly you are not a weed.

if you want to see an example of people stop eating junk and blooming, check the documentary simply raw - reversing diabetes in 30 days

https://archive.org/details/simply-raw-reversing-diabetes-in-30-days

also if you found some nuggets in your reading, i'd be interested in hearing about them.

>>228149
Not exactly a NEET but SHOULD get at least a small low effort job to be able to sustain yourself and whatever shit you might wanna buy,

I'm an AuDHD constructionfag who somehow managed to get halfway decent at a specific niche, and now I make close to to six figures after not even a few years. Feels good to have no child support payments, whores draining my energy and resources, or even really thinking about succubi at all, unlike most of my coworkers. That's why I'm so confused by obvious crypto-crab posts that so often crop up here still. It's a blessing.

>>228538
Hey that's great man. Can I have some money?

>>228539
Never forget the wizard who was planning to kill himself who was immediately beset by beggars

Assuming you have schizobux. nepobux or neetbux here is the following advice:

-get a ritalin prescription
-find a goal or subject matter you are interested in or want to be interested in
-study/work on that during weekdays
-get drunk on weekends

>>228540
One request to a dying man could mean the difference between frozen pizza and delivery pizza.

>>228539
Sure, how much

>>228544
Oh damn I never got this far before…

12

>>228545
Twelve dollars or twelve hundred? I can't tell if you're being serious or ironic

>>228547
If twelve hundred is on the table I'll take it

29 year old neet with 10 and a half years of experience here. There is honestly nothing to do if you live with family. You know what they're like better than anyone, so you know what your options are.

You can make a gambit and simply push their patience over time by being as agreeable and helpful as possible while showing that you're "working on it", but any long term result is entirely in their hands. Can they accept you living like that? Can they give up on you? Things like that.

I've played up my inability since before I was 18 and have never shown competence where it wasn't absolutely needed since. My parents are good people, so this deception worked for me. Good people are all that can save you. And then you just need to be the type of person that would take advantage of that without remorse. There's no life in NEETing if you aren't at peace with life at a fundamental level. There's no existence quite as "merely existing" as this one.

>>228550
my parents kind of have different opinions on where i should be, but both of them arrived at the consensus that if i don't "figure" my shit out they won't give me anything more than food. plus i've been shame pressured since childhood and i'm extremely vulnerable to it. but you know what? i did neet for a few years and now that i wage 12+ hours 6 days a week (i'm white btw) i feel even more emptiness than when i neetes. it's worse than merely existing.