/wiz/ - Wizardry

Where did you come from? From what website did you learn of Wizchan? Answer this honestly and I'll divulge the secret history of anime and Wizardchannel.

Lurk moar

>>228408
deek.chat

anime used to have aesthetics that were second to nothing. right now it's just cartoons for normalniggers.

>>228413
The real question is what's the next big [anime] or if there is something to replace it

>>228407
As if I'd tell anything about this place or wizards to a normgroid scum. Begone troon.

Anime and Japanese culture has always been a part of NEET/outcast culture and if you aren't at least aware of this, I doubt you really belong here

>>228419
why has is this in this
it always has been you fucking retard

>>228407
anime culture mixed with internet culture.

>>228414
nothing can be replaced after you turn 18 if you didn't notice. you just won't connect

Why are edgy teenage succubi so obsessed with lain?

>>228420
get the fuck outta here

>>228412
Oh wow a constant stream of literal transvestite porn and self-harm posted by Higurashi PFPs. That explains why of all images you chose to open a discussion about anime is a lain_drugs_smoking_meme_ghettocore picture you pulled off a booru 127 seconds before making the thread.

>>228426
>teenage succubi
Brother those are troons. Lain is the staple of trooncore.

>>228426
wish i knew i guess they just like to parasite on the most "elitist" thing but having no brain of their own means they couldn't land anywhere else except sel.

im a millennial, i grew up right at the kick off of pokemon mania, but there was also tons of anime on fox kids, kids wb, toonami, adult swim.

anime back in the day had a cool exotic thing going for it, "these cartoons arent some tom and jerry shit".

i dont get how anyone would hate animu in 2026, its become a completely normified hobby

>>228463
Today I would respect someone who is decidedly not an anime fan as long as they're not a moralfag.

>>228407
Anime just mesmerize people in a way cartoons don't, because anime allows the creators to tell whatever story they want, while cartoons must be family-friendly for some reason.
It's not that cartoons can't do the same as anime, most cartoon teams and studios shoot themselves in the foot with arbitrary limitations.
Ever heard of "Hartman Hips", cartoonists invented it because most publisher didn't allow them to draw boobs. Boobs on their own isn't nsfw, but whatever.

>>228407
Because Anime has the tendency to deal with themes that aren't as commonly found in Western media, for the simple reason that Japan has very different cultural roots. For example you will have a lot of shows deal with the idea of periods of your life ending and having to move on to a new chapter, especially in any kind of slice of life high school type setting. A lot of Western media also seems to be more prone to adapting the political/social messaging of the week into its content, which is unappealing to many. Now kindly leave this site and don't return.

To rip someone more eloquent off;

You can't cross certain mental barriers and turn really <<Funky>> until you've watched the first season of K-On!

The revelation embedded in CGDCT SoL moe shows is not the plot or the characters, but the presentation of the world. These shows take place in worlds of safety, security, happy homes, living traditions, and full employment. The worst thing that ever happens is a pet dying or someone's family moving away. These stories from their very outset reject the proposition of eternal struggle, suffering, degradation, corruption, collapse and globalism.

>>228481
as per >>228490
they reject the *framing* of Christian culture in the first place. For an in-depth treatment of this, I recomend https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2007/09/how-dawkins-got-pwned-part-1/

with the key insights being, the framing of American->Anglophone->Protestant/Capitalist->Christian->Greco/Roman sets basic structures within which ideas are shaped either by conformity or by opposition. If you were brought up in such a tradition, your thinking and conceptualisation is essentially tainted by the framework and archetypes.

Anime, quite possibly uniquely in economically viable art forms in the world, comes from an insulated tradition, which absorbed some of the superficial elements of western animation but applied it inside the Nippon/Shinto framework.

As a particularly strong example of contrast, in a <Western> presentation, the way a problem is resolved is with tools: more guns, more horses, more food, more succubi, whatever - it's essentially an economic race or the application of existing resources more effectively. In .jp media, it's participation in a system which rewards mastery first, status second and resources some point after that.

And it's that last part which I think appeals to us wizards - it certainly appealed to me long before I recognised what it was. It's not "I won over someone else and got more shit" as the premise, it's "I just kept doing what I was already doing until I got really good at it, and it solved my problem."

For failed normies and proto-wizards, that's *enormously* comforting.

For us elder wizards (40+) we start to see the dovetail/horseshoe where the two join together in maturity, but your starting point and whatever form you had the most experience pursuing gives context benefits.

>>228424
Great insight. I'm starting to feel like the neuroplasticity thing is all too real.
Feels like I much rather play games I liked over and over again regardless of quality. Absolutely unable to enjoy anything I didn't get into as a youth.

>>228407
Escapism. It was and is daydream fuel to me. Nowadays mostly manga as anime is too demanding to consume.
Also online communities used to be full of kindred spirits escaping their reality as well.
Nowadays it feels like anime is made for normies and the online spaces are also inhabited by them.
Not saying this in a "hello fellow wizards I fit in right?" way, but lets face it it's nowhere near the same.
Just by virtue of multiple generations having grown up by now it can't be the same.

How much do I have in common with a 20 year old "wizard"? Hell I feel like a retard for having posted at that age in hindsight.
A world has left me behind that I never managed to be a part of.
Of course I'm attached to escapist fantasies…

>>228491
Good insights. Indeed that seems to be what has drawn me towards Japan in general from a relatively young age. The sheer "different-ness" of the culture (though back then also Japan still had the reputation for being some kind of futuristic high tech place). But the things that still resonate with me today are the cultural values of modesty (as in resources are limited so it's best to only have what you really need and be content with it) and the general impression of society being a well oiled machine where everyone is generally respectful towards one another (which of course is much less romantic if you're part of said society and have to break your back to fit in). But it's such a stark contrast to the memes I was raised with, to borrow Dawkins' terminology, where individual achievement and accumulation of wealth, material goods, and status is seemingly placed above all else, with society being more of a free for all sink or swim sort of arrangement.

That, in combination with what >>228490 said, how in a lot of SoL shows the stakes are generally very low, which allows for more exploration of interpersonal dynamics and characters. Also, while a lot of Anime has copious amounts of "fan service" and such, sex and relationships are handled way differently. Western shows often glorify the fast life mating strategy stuff, hookups, one night stands and so on, which is simply disgusting and off putting to me. I don't have to deal with that in Anime

any anime or manga or piece of japanese media/culture than has gone mainstream has been normiefied so to speak

>>228501
yea
now, even my sister watches anime, and guess which is it? one pice dude

>>228407
because it's cuterino and japan is keyed and all of that

>>228506
I am an One Piece (anime and manga, not the niggerslop show) enjoyer since 2010 or so and it pains me to see how normified this title has become. It has always been filled with normalfags, of course, after all it is a big 3 of shonen - the most attractive genre for subhumans of all kinds. But now everyone just gobbles down Oda's tiny pecker and asks for more.
The manga at the moment is total trash, dumb plot, dumb characters, fake out deaths. No one gives a shit. Oda is a degenerate nigger who approved the awful show that attracted unwashed hordes of morons.

>>228512
>enjoyer since 2010 or so and it pains me to see how normified this title has become.
It was 2003 for me since we had a bootleg satellite German TV back in the days. Gundam was nice too.
I know it's a cliche, but to me OP died after the time skip. I was already feeling it decline before that, but it really made it clear that it wasn't the show I loved as a kid.
Kinda like how I felt naruto (another rather mainstream one since it also aired on TV) peaked at the zabuza arc, but shitpudding mate it crystal clear.

As far as popularity goes, I feel like once something hits critical mass normies start to like it just to fit in with the crowd which results in a delusional fanbase that defends dogshit since "it can't be bad if so many like it" "I must like it to fit in" "I'll defend the dogshit too to signal I'm one of them".

Something like that.
Then again sorry for the off topic OP.

Really makes me wonder how latecomers enjoy the "hobby". What were some of the first memorable anime you watched and at around what age did you start? What got you into it?
I'm not even trying to pull the "not a real fan" "hurr too young zoomer" or whatever I'm sorry I know it might come off that way, hell you might be older than me.
I'm genuinely curious how people who got into hobbies I grew up with later in life formed a bond with it if that makes any sense.
For instance I can't imagine getting into anime if I started on later series with a different online community. Gaming is another thing I don't see myself getting into if it wasn't for oldschool MMOs and the like and I had to do some competitive fps shit.

>>228513
>What were some of the first memorable anime you watched
I got hooked on anime in 2007 or so. Just randomly stumbled upon Naruto on Jetix. It was something new and different, even if characters seemed to yell too much. Later my cousin watched Naruto on DVD and I borrowed it, gulped everything down and wanted more. I watched all the major shonens and moved on to something adults on the internet watched in that period. Elven Lied, Evangelion, Berserk. There was no going back after that.
Also Anime was something normies absolutely despised here back then. It was seen as stupid nerd garbage, cartoons for kids and shit. You could even get beaten if retards at school knew you were an anime fan. Come to think of it, it was more of a subculture than anything. Like goths, emo, punks. People were a bit on the cringier side but they were geniune in the adoration. Plus it wasn't easy to find out about anime when internet wasn't even that widespread in my country, less so in my town so only the specific kind of autists would even go down that rabbit hole. Now everyone and their dog is an anime fan. Meatheads that would woop animefans back in the day now consume Jujutso no Kaisen and spew retarded anime memes.

>>228514
So we basically had the same/really similar experience just at a different time.
Cool to see.
Wonder how the generation whose first anime was something like black clover or jujutso you mention views their hobby. Must be quite a bit different.
I notice younger guys seem to be rather detached from things they enjoy as well. Not sure how to describe it better than that.

>>228515
the detachment is in big part because everything is a bit easier. In dialup days, getting a full length episode could be a week long project, and it *cost* you.

Now to enjoy something you're at most 5 clicks and a one line search from whatever it is you wanted.

>>228513
> What were some of the first memorable anime you watched and at around what age did you start? What got you into it?

well, obviously the first one that I watched was dragon ball, but the first I began to follow was attack on titan when the first season came out. I remember looking for it on youtube haha

what was your first one?

>>228491
Maybe unrelated but it took me until chapter 6 to realize that I was reading a nRX book by Yarvin, lol. I have read Nick Land and I was feeling kinda familiar with the ideas. It completely slipped my mind that Mencius Moldbug is Yarvin pen name.
Also, I wonder if he ever read Nietzsche, because they are basically saying the same thing about Christianity ("God is dead; but given the way of men, there may still be caves for thousands of years in which his shadow will be shown. ––And we––we still have to vanquish his shadow, too.").

All animation is masonic conditioning, reaching back to the "first animation" which was the sethian masonic "mickey mouse". Later Disney animated movies (very popular in the 1990s) were popularized trauma conditioning for children that used masonic stories like Hamlet (evil uncle kills his regal brother following which the king's son must avenge him) bizarrely adapted to an invented fictional framework of talking lions. The Hunchback of Our Lady for instance was patterned off the legend of an actual operant mason who was said to have contributed to the renewed Gothic/Satanic architecture of that cathedral. All these movies felt dark to me as a boy and still do and for that reason I still avoid them.

Japanese cartoons or "anime" like Pokemon (pocket monsters) have always been complete garbage that I recall were denounced by Christians as having masonic/satanic thematic elements of demonic invocation and evolution. Yugi-Oh (where a little coy boy called Yugi becomes a brave daring card-dueler after possession by a pharaonic spirt or pharaoh, thus Yugi-Oh) was similar complete garbage that I always wondered how others my age were taken in by.

More properly Japanese cartoons like Transformers carry conditioning themes of aliens and outer space – neither of which are real. Ghost in the Shell is basic immortality/transhumanist propaganda. Evangelion (a strange name I always thought, as this is a misspelling deriving from the Greek word εὐαγγέλιον (euangelion) which properly means "good-announcement" or "evangel") is a very over-esteemed cartoon produced by post-wwii masonic-influenced Japanese that concerns a secretive group of kabbalistic rulers ("Seele") resemblant of Jewish bankers who use the "absolute terror" field of children to fight the angels of god. This cartoon is irrationally considered canonical in terms of standard of animation achievement.

I've always found the class of men drawn to Japanese animation and culture in general to be unsavory and weird. Fandom for “Dragonball” was the domain of strange children even when I was a child. This even more so now in our own modern day where "anime" is mostly patent transgender conditioning for youths, the love for which is expropriated by men far too advanced in age to have a legitimate interest in such things.

But perhaps all video entertainment media – not just anime – have always been judeo-masonic propaganda. The most well-celebrated "directors" of our present time are by definition famous jewish propagandists. Take (((Speilberg))) as an obvious example; everything this retard ever created on film was obvious propaganda meant to enforce popular jewish illusions: Holocaust (fake), aliens (fake), dinosaurs (fake), nuclear weapons (fake).

>>228964
>that I recall were denounced by Christians as having masonic/satanic thematic elements of demonic invocation and evolution

The only my-soyic say-tanic stuff was *them* lashing a cartoon made on the other side of the Gaia with various symbols used randomly.

The idea of evolution was so grotesque (evolving with 1 living specimen) making fun of the idea of evolution by pointing fingers at Pokémons would actually help them with being the authority figures for their immediate kids.

And whatever symbols were used there, the symbols were used *randomly*

>>228520
Wrong? In dialup days it was like 1GB per hour of download speed for me. You could download crysis by leaving it overnight and by the time you come home the next day it would be downloaded.

>>228974
1GB/hour at the best of times.

>>228964
Schizo. Anime used to be raw pantsu power.

>>228976
That was a different layer of the anime world, but indeed, Agent Najica was a thing.

>>228964
Not wrong but it's not like there are a lot of hobbies/entertainment available for loser males that aren't in one way or another judeo-masonic-globalist-capitalist-communist conditioning or propaganda. Look at the direction the world in general is going, there is no silver lining so only choices for most of us are either escapism or suicide, or maybe it's just me idk lol.

>>228979
No, you're right. For those defeated by big capital and financial pressures there is pretty much just junk food, drugs or passive entertainment like video games and movies/tv series.

I think the latter is much less destructive to ones health even if if just a major cope to keep going on and living with no clear purpose.

>>228979
You don't get it. There are interests that are so *niche* you cannot put a "loser male" label on them without being mistaken/hypocritical

Say, realizing some truths from old classical Stoics is nothing of a lower/loser class, but the local country bumpkin would keep parroting own stereotypes on whats loser and whatsnot.



>>228490

"K-On"?
Why not "Lucky star"?

because anime is for weebs and everyone hates weebs so everyone want to kill weebs so all the weebs go on weeb forums but are still not left alone

>>228994
Those old Stoics weren't losers. Well actually they were compared to what came before them.

wow i really like op image. its like if lain had friends her age and was a normal teenager. quite charming tbh.

>>228994
Lucky Star i'm not so sure qualifies, given:

More than one of the older succubi characters are shown to be in dead end careers/relationships or "losers"
Konata's mom dying was a significant factor
There's more than one instance of "classism" in the agitator's sense and it's intentionally highlighted
the Boke Tsukkomi routines are occasionally more mean spirited

Lucky Star is I think far more a gag manga derivative, where the goal is to manufacture contrast and comedic conflict, whereas plain Moeshit and CGDCT shows "a better world" and emphasises one small part of it

the one that *kills* me is Nonon-biyori, because it is a superb presentation of "a better world" that strikes particularly close to home as I had the benefit of living something very much like it on multiple axes. The contrast of having *lived* this and then been compelled to join the artificial rat race with its filth and machine induced hopelessness makes it much more obvious how someone could be convinced to fight for a reality like that.

If you've never experienced a peaceful, clean, safe, slow life with opportunities before you, respectable ancestors behind, and genuine optimism about the future, getting to experience it through fiction could be a traumatic experience that changes your world view.

It's why I can't finish Nononbiyori, it's painful to be reminded that once the good life it represents was real and common - and we can never have it again.

>>228974
that's not dialup - as in POTS dialling modem as opposed to dedicated internet lines

Dialup is 1994-1999, when 1 GB was, if you were lucky, 2 days on 48~kbps

Crysis was 2007, not remotely in the same era of internet infrastructure

>>229033
I don't remember getting DSL until mid to late 2000s

>>229033
Downloading games on true dialup was usually a waste of time because you would timeout so much.

That's why you bought the game on 4-8 different installation CD's.

>>229040
Which was why actually getting an anime *clip* was legitimately something of an achievement to be celebrated.

You had to work for it, you had to plan, and you had to be lucky. Even in early post dial up I fondly remember the day my first torrent finished - it was the 3rd episode of the Digi Charat anime.

If you have to ask that then go back to r9k.

>>229048
Yeah, before I knew torrents existed I buffered an episode of South Park for like 9 hours on RealPlayer (a very popular ancient streaming app) to watch it without lag and interruptions for 15 minutes.

It felt glorious to watch an episode of South Park on a PC monitor in 1999. What an absurd time it was. Now you stream something instantly in 4K from Netflix in one click.