No.228719
I want to talk to you about fate: does it exist or not? Honestly, I don't know. I won't claim to believe in it unconditionally, but I looked at my natal chart (Shoutout to my astrologer friend from the other thread! I know you're reading this). During this time, I've talked to magicians, psychologists, internet freaks, and even talked to AI. And, of course, I've tried to start my life from scratch many times. I've tried to find a job many times, but I've lost it. And now I'm 28 years old, guys. I just want to throw everything away. I'll be 30 in two years. I have no education, I've never really learned anything in my entire life, and I've spent half of it living off my parents. I'm literally a loser, a nobody. The older you get, the more clearly you realize: trying to start over doesn't work when you're in poor health. Let's be honest, many of us have lousy health; many of us rarely even go outside. Besides, there's no money for education, not to mention the strict regulations, the need to pass exams, and other difficulties. And I ask myself: did I even have a choice in how to live? Or was my life built from the very beginning according to some divine plan, a supercomputer, or something similar? After all, if you think about it, all my decisions have always turned out to be wrong. I constantly did the wrong thing, made mistakes out of stupidity or naivety. So, is everything predetermined? I'm still tormented by this question. If I were to get up tomorrow and say, "That's it, I'm leaving this life and I'm no longer a burden," I still wouldn't be able to change much. I won't become a doctor or a scientist at 30. External factors influence us too much. Does that mean that even my decision to change something tomorrow was already made not by me, but by someone else? And I just play out this scenario over and over again, and there was no real freedom of choice. But you know what's the scariest thing? It turns out that no matter what we do, we can't jump above our heads. As the saying goes: "Play stupid games, get stupid prizes" or "You can't teach an old dog new tricks." Actually, I want to ask you: do you believe in fate? Are we really destined to suffer our entire lives? I looked at myself: I'm 28, I haven't learned anything, and I just wasted this life. I wish I'd never been born.
No.228720
Yes, fate is the magical word for predeterminism. You have whatever genes you have and those you cannot change, you also cannot change whatever experiences you had in the past that shaped you as a person and will influence your actions throughout the rest of your life. Even what surrounds you is predetermined since it's controlled by the genetics of other beings and the laws of physics. You could try to turn your life around by using motivation, sure, but even motivation is mostly genetic and what isn't genetic is still out of your control. If after reading this "you" "decide" to take some action or not will still be predetermined.
But if you mean fate in the sense of "a higher invisible power has planned things in this or that way" then no, fate doesn't exist and even if a god did exist I doubt he would care much about humans just because our state of consciousness is higher than other animals, we'd still be ants to him. If you lived the same life you do now but in the middle ages you'd think it was god's fate to make you more privileged than 99.999% of humans who lived among poverty, war, plagues and famine, but since you live in the modern day you compare yourself with others who might live a better life than yours and you think it was god's fate to punish you.