/wiz/ - Wizardry

Hopefully I'm gone before the time comes, even if by suicide, life is unnecessarily long for what it's worth and if it's already gotten dull from a young age the more unbearable it will become. I do wonder how the other gen-z will go about it, they are the first generation of people that overwhelmingly won't have children either because of choice or impossibility, politics change fast so you might see mandatory euthanasia for those who are not wealthy enough just so that the government can save money on taxes, or retirement age increased to 85. Maybe in the 2050s those living in the West and China who are deemed a bit too old will be forced to fight in the 100% spontaneous and unplanned war for the independence of Taiwan.

>mandatory euthanasia
unlikely with the likely public backlash
i can see it being made more accessible though or doctors allowed to make the decision in cases of dementia or unconsciousness

>>229116
The best plan I have is to work until I'm 50, then coast on whatever savings I have and rope when they run out. By then my parents (who I live with) will likely be dead. I generally don't see any way past suicide at some point. I have no interest in watching my body and mind deteriorate or becoming trapped inside my body. Frankly I'm hoping there will be some kind of assisted euthanasia programs popping in the future.

i guess it's just going to be pain and suffering tenfold

>>229116
I feel deeply sad and lonely. I'm not a totally jaded wiz, I wanted a good life and a good future. But I failed myself. I was too weak, too much of a loser, too held down and held back by abusive elders. I'm 23 and I'm a failure. I could never catch up. I will stare out the window, stare at anime, stare at AI, and see a life I could never have. It's truly over.

>>229131
oh boy

It's scary until I look at my family and remember how miserable it is to be stuck with people you hate for the rest of your life. I'll take 10 lonely deaths over becoming my parents.

I feel content.

>>229133
Based. These are one of those arguments that really cut through my deprezzione.

>>229132
Its truly over, my wizarother. I shall rope in the mountains.

feels good man

my plan is to kill myself before that.

Have you seen people slowly withering away when old? Some elderly people get so weak and sick they become bedridden for years, or have dementia or Alzheimer and need constant caretakers. There is no dignity on that. Is already fucked up enough for people who have loving families, now imagine getting to that state when you are alone, or being throw away in some poor nursing home. We should normalize getting assisted suicide after a certain point.

On top of that, I have nothing to look forward right now anyway.

>>229116
>no succubus
>no obsessed demon family
>AND neetbux
that's exactly what i want. i don't depend on other people to be happy in life. and once i get fed up with life i will kill myself. crabs BTFO

>>229126
you can euthanize yourself, and die a painless death, do a bit of research. i plan on doing it with a helium canister and a plastic bag. probably in my 50's too. it's good to have it planned at least.

>>229142
slowly wasting away like that seems painful

I sort of get the drive towards having children but for me it feels more like a selfish masculine urge to reproduce rather than a desire to create and raise something lovingly.
Having had to live in a house with children before I can safely say I don't care at all about being childless forever. Children are an absolute nightnare to be in the presence of when you have autism and media heavily romantises what they actually are.

>>229116
It's fine. I'm not very materialistic and I've come to enjoy being an observer.
People are interesting, I just want nothing to do with them directly.

It's immoral to produce kids in hell.

>>229116
isnt the gras always greener on the other side?
people who regret not having a wife and kids or a job or whatever probably imagine the super ideal version of those, your wife is smoking hot, you live in a mansion and your kids are intelligent and well behaved and take care of even when you are like 80yo shitting in a bag or whatever, but in reality your wife will probably cuck you, get fat and ugly and your kids will be the retards you never wanted to have and you pay alimony for them with money you earn at some crappy job, then when you are old they shove you into a nursing home and take all your shit for themselves.
thats the reality for most normalfags so why would I, someone who isnt a normalfag expect to have it better than them? life just doesnt work that way, there is like a 1% chance that your family wont suck in some way and you cant even rig this shit with money either.
even billionaires have shitty family lifes and a family that wants to see them dead so they can get their assets.
so idk man, aging itself is always shit and this is something I fear more than being alone, but at least when you are alone with fucked up health you can always check out and it wont break any hearts and ruin someone you care about in some way.

Not super well if I'm realistic.
I'm 30, ruined my body, no real career prospects hell if I get fired I'll never have this level of comfort I might just have to off myself at that point, even though I really don't want to.

>Aging
Going to be a struggle, already is, mostly due to health reasons. If nothing terminal pops up I'm looking at long darwn-out suffering from already existing chronic stuff getting worse.
Money will get tight once I have no mommy to leech from or if god forbid I'd have to take care of her…

>no children/wife
I do not and have never really desired these things as I always felt they were beyond my capacity.
I could just never imagine having someone hover around me all day expecting things from me. Even minor stuff like small talk etc. is hard to suffer through with my mother, let alone some random.
Then there is the responsibility aspect for kids as well.
I was fucked and I know I'd just perpetuate the misery.
Yet for some fucking reason in the past year or so my subconscious has been tormenting me with dreams of family life. Rather annoying.

>minimum pension
I can only ever see myself get a pension if I get full disability and that wont be pretty for many reasons, because if things get that bad… well… I don't know how I'd manage.
Money would not be enough to live on and that is for certain. If I have to wait another 40 years? No way I'll get a pension that way.


Honestly being here in eastern europe I can still somewhat see a bigger war on the horizon where we will get culled in some fashion.
With my luck I wont be able to dodge the draft despite my many ailments and will be blown to bits like those in Ukraine now.
Can't really say it's not the future either.
Chat control, EU wide ban on sharing some stuff, internet isolation seems to split the world along the lines of 1984 and the eternal wars are also seemingly there.

Not trying to get too political about it, I'm a complete layman, my only info is from memes and browsing imageboards every once in a while so what do I know.
It's just the general feeling I have about the world and my prospects here.
So all in all, I don't think aging is much of a concern in this way.

I just hope I can stay comfy for a bit longer. Save up enough money so I can NEET again for a year or two and hopefully fix up my body enough by that time to actually enjoy and utilize the freedom.
I'll probably just play some escapist vidya, wander the country a bit, go visit a bunch of botanical gardens.
I'd love to have a small home with a backyard filled with roses, but getting that much money is unrealistic.

TLDR;
Not sure of it bothers me as much in the grand scheme of things. I've been taking things a day at a time for a while now.
I doubt I'll have a super long life ahead of me for one reason or another.
If I do, it will likely be a personal hell, well deserved though.

>how do you feel about aging
aging is very different for healthy people who know how to regenerate. what society calls aging for the most part is irresponsibility-based and usererror-based deterioration. sick people act like age makes them sick and weak automatically and that is not true and their irresponsibility is keeping them from finding out otherwise. that's not real.

>alone? no children, no wife, no family,
aloneness is something a person first has to learn. complete illusion. if you go into the woods and don't feel connected to the trees, animals mountains and waters, you have work to do. being alone is a belief system, a baby might need attention but a grown man does not need any unless he has been brainwashed to insist otherwise. that's not real.

>minimum pension
you can solve problems with money but if you are smart, skillful and bothered to build up experience in your young years, you know how to do things without money.

there is so much you can do and become that rich people with families can't; i hope you keep your eyes out for that and find some of it.

>>229131
>I feel deeply sad and lonely.

just don't

>>229167
>It's immoral to produce kids in hell.

i also believe this.

>>229167
It's treachery to sit back and allow hell to take hold.

>>229182
Who are you betraying here?

>>229183
Anyone who antagonizes hell. Humanity itself. All the cute loli who don't want to be raped by hell demons with fat red cocks.

>>229185
What made them your allies to begin with?
I don't get the sense of comradery just because we are all in hell. Not to mention the heat doesn't seem all that bad for lot of my "fellow humans".

>>229182
How many kids do you have?

>>229191
This is what I wanted to ask him too, but I didn't want to be an ass.
Thanks for doing it instead lmao

>>229192
*did't want to sound like an ass

its gonna suck having to lift heavy objects by myself, or asking for ride to places where I have to drop off a car. I'll probably go out like that found footage youtube video where some teenagers sneak into a derelict house full of trains and trash only to find a half decayed corpse lying in a chair.

>>229131
You're only 23, you're basically a child. If I could go back and be 23 and try again from where I am now, I might have a shot. It's not over till it's over (but it is for me).

Divert the energies of worry into working towards an understanding where the falling apart of the body and mind is less perturbing to you. There are many introspective paths towards this end.

As for the loneliness part, if you're lonely then find some group, anything to become part of. Volunteering, religion, shared interest, political that doesn't make you want to throw up. Don't worry about forcing friendships there, just attend. That said, loneliness too can be quelled by introspection.

Coming to terms with an understanding that lasting fulfillment can never come from the external, which is composed of elements mostly out of our control.

Well, at this point of my life i'm pretty used to it.
I've had the feeling that i would live alone for the rest of my existence since i was 13, and no sooner said than done, that has been my reality since then.
Now i'm 24 and i can tell you that it hasn't affected my life in any sense, however, i'm worried about the fact that i've been unable to get a job since i graduated from the university two years ago.
I mean, my city is going through a very acute economical crisis due to tariffs and corruption, but it's discouraging to see that i can't find anything in this shithole of place.

>Aging alone
So far it's fine. When my body starts breaking down from working I'm fucked. I imagine I'll be one of those old guys who dies in his chair and isn't discovered for 9 months. I hope it's not from falling or I just die in my sleep alone.

>No children
That was never in the cards for me. The only way that's happening now is to raise some fat single mom's octaroon monstrosities, hard pass.

>No wife
Wasn't going to happen

>No family
My family is white trash so good riddance. Starting a family of my own won't happen unless I once again want to have some single mom parasite off of me and if I'm lucky maybe she'd have a child with me.

>Miniumum pension
Not even an option, but I'm well off enough financially that I'll still retire before most NPCs due to not having any expenses.

>>229142
Alzheimer's is my biggest fear. Making it to advanced age is too. Imagine watching everyone you know die except you and then you enter some terrifying alternate reality where nothing makes sense. It sounds like actual hell.

It saddens me. I don't want to live or die alone.

you could probably adopt a kid in the future so you don't feel so lonely

>>229430
orphanages would probably never let a single wizard man adopt a kid, they would fear the worst

>>229431
they will if you have an stable income and no criminal record

>>229432
no

>>229432
not really, and a wizard having a stable income is also very unlikely.

>>229430
will you wage 12 hours a day to take care of Shaniqua's kid, or are you expecting that your adoptee will be tailored to your personal preference?

>>229430
It's a cute idea but realistically that would just be miserable

>>229437
not impossible really
>>229440
ofc I'd be the one choosing which kid I get to adopt and it will NOT be a nigger
>>229441
I'd be fine with a young little female to raise and that's as close to my PHENOTYPE as possible, that means no nigger blood in her

virgins daydreaming about adopting a succubus is my favorite fantasy of theirs. ironic how >>229445 is just two threads up.

>>229116
i don't really mind it. unless i hang out with people who do. i've largely come to terms with it. not even sure i'd prefer having someone around me all the time. i've always liked solitude.

at the same time i know relationships can bring a lot of joy (and pain). i might try disabled dating next if i do start dating again

>>229440

Back in the day, they tried to match race with same race, down to the general part of a continent their ancestors immigrated from. And it fucking worked. I compared my mom to a photo of her adoptive mom and the resemblance is uncanny. Same hair, same eye color, same smile. Downright eerie.
My mom said she was always proud as a kid when people didn't have any idea they weren't bio family… Society is starting to do adoptees a disservice in the name of what? Not potentially hurting feelings, making normies wait a bit longer for a child that can pass as blood relative? Just stick to tradition and toss the unwanted ones of China and Africa to gays.
Adoptees are always gonna be fucked up. But in school I had a lot of classes was this black kid adopted by old, clueless hippies and that guy was FUCKED UP. Even I felt pity for him.
All children deserve stable, understanding homes. If anyone here really, for some ungodly reason, wants a succubus child around just watch Anne of Green Gables then be glad you can just pause her dumbassery as long as you want when the child shenanigans get annoying. Maybe go adopt a cat or dog or start a nice fish tank.