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 No.229249

I am not a full wizard yet, I am still young however even at a younger age of 24 I felt like I have already seen and done everything worth doing. I watched enough anime and movies, played enough vidya of every genre to satisfy someone for a lifetime. I scrolled enough on my phone for 4 people. Eventually I got bored of media consumption so I pursued other things like hobbies. I learned a language, an instrument and beginner coding in game dev and I felt again like it was enough. Learning things became boring, its the same baseline thing every time of encoding brain meat with specific patterns over and over. Skill progression of anything is basically the same. I got bored of those hobbies, I picked up exercise thinking it would give me more energy however after finally getting to the point of jogging a mile I stopped. I'm fine with how I look and I don't care how others see me so its as if there wasn't a motivation, just putting myself under duress without reason aside to live longer doing boring things. I quit. Eventually, I thought it was the NEET life that I became sick of, so I got a job at a gas station as well as a construction company both parttime. I was able to play my part well for a NEET of 7 years. I even got invited to barbecues and other outings and had many conversations with others. I thought that maybe finally I could fill the void but that feeling of boredom started haunting me again. Within months I was done, the jobs were all the same the people saying the same things and everyone doing the same things over and over. When you live with nothing for so long you get used to it, there was nothing I wanted to buy with my money. All of it stacked up in an account that I am now currently living off of as I left both my jobs and my relations with others. Neetdom is much easier to be bored in than a place where you stare at the time all day being bored.

I only feel as if I am wasting my life if I am bored. If I die tomorrow I would only regret the moments I felt boredom. I tried it all, jobs hobbies people exercise. None of it made me feel anything for long, it was as if I was solving a novel puzzle, it occupied my time but once it was "solved" it was just another puzzle for the pile. I don't understand, towards the end of my jobs I even started to try narcotics just to feel something but they were nothing. Mushrooms, meth, alcohol. Nothing. All I do now is learn about medicine and watch surgery videos, I find it fascinating but I know better than to get my hopes up. The minute I uncover everything and get to the second slope of the Dunning Kruger effect I lose interest. And this terrible feeling of boredom creeps in. I am truly fucked now, I feel as if I have already tried more things than most people do in a lifetime. I am not even at the halfway point yet of a lifetime. I don't understand what is wrong with me, I know continuing would be to find topics, consume them, and be done with them but even that act of it all I have already played out enough. Its like I would starve even by consuming the world. A jack of all trades is a master of none but nothing I have tried as made me feel anything for long, nothing like I want to keep doing it. I know what it is like to have a flicker of passion for something but it always fades. I feel so much envy for those that have things that they want to dedicate their lives too. Has anyone else ever experienced something like this?

 No.229250

Yes, it's called clinical depression. A doctor will diagnose it from what you said (feeling bored, no emotions, lack of enjoyment in anything) in about 5 seconds. Unfortunately, this website is filled with people who would rather come up with reasons not to seek help than see a doctor for this. So I suspect that you will do nothing.

 No.229255

The reality is humans are not designed to be happy, at this stage of life most decide to have children to fill a void but if you're posting here that's out of the question. You either start some sort of long-term project, embrace the boredom, or quit the game.
>>229250
What will the the.rapist do, put him on SSRIs and call it a day? Give a motivational speech written by Paulo Coelho?

 No.229257

What language have you learned?

 No.229258

>>229255
ssris will just ruin your life

 No.229259

>>229250
stupid nigger. never post your ignorant opinion here again. psychiatry hasn't evolved past lobotomies, electroconvulsive therapy and now psychopharma that gives you brain damage and erectile dysfunction. people are "depressed" because they have shit lives and they're out of obvious solutions to their problems so they give up. a doctor won't cure that, a doctor won't even care about that, he thinks it's all in your head, that the world is perfect as it is as long as you have "the right mindset" which is controlled by magic chemicals for which there is no medical test or actual empirical proof that this is the underlying mechanism of any kind of mental disorder.

 No.229260

>>229259
>>229255
>>229258
If you're not depressed you don't get an opinion on this. If you're not a doctor, you also don't get a contrarian opinion on this (a doctor wouldn't post something so misinformed .) Please stop telling people to disregard medical advice. Your "advice" is dangerous.

>>229259
this schizo is particularly dangerous. He has his little anti-propaganda videos ready to go every time anyone suggests treating mental health issues rampant on this website… Can we discuss this even once in the entire sites history without a conspiratorial retard opining every 5 seconds.

I find it somewhat bleak that people here will write page length posts where they list every feature of depression in excruciating detail. Only to never mention the term once. It seems to me that many people on this site are missing (very) basic insight into their behaviours. They try their best to see the problem but because they can only see the trees around them they never see the whole forest (the forest is depression, btw, its an ordinary forest every where on Earth but here apparently.) This is also what can make other people's opinions about our behaviours more valuable then our own.

 No.229261

by the way, op, the term you're looking for is "anhedonia": inability to feel pleasure. its a feature of depression and other mental illnesses.

 No.229262

>>229260
50 years ago this schmuck would be recommending you to get a lobotomy cuz it really takes the edge off and helps with stress, hah. there's no shortage of these useful idiots that can't think for themselves and really believe there's a magic pill that can solve all their problems. newsflash, nigger, the cure for depression is having a life worth living. the kikes can't package and sell that to you because not everyone gets to have one. there are no simple solutions to difficult problems. you are suffering because the world is dogshit and you were born with certain genetic and environmental deficiencies that you couldn't reasonably cope with. if the world wanted to help you, they'd give you the resources to thrive in it, but mind-rapping pills are easier to produce and if you take enough of them, you take away your ability to perceive it accurately. you're worth more to them as blind cattle than as a happy person, remember that.

 No.229263

>>229262
do you want to take a bit longer to craft a post that makes sense, or should I take that as your argument?

 No.229264

>>229263
my posts are a warning to wizards. i don't care to debate you because you've fully bought into the scam and you can't be helped. just remember: no refunds!

 No.229265

>>229258
I see people say this alot, but i've been taking an ssri for a couple months and it doesn't seem to do anything? I feel exactly the same.

 No.229266

>>229265
these drugs are a complete shot in the dark and the actual mechanism through which they "work" isn't really known, they just do statistical analysis and determine that since some % of people get "better" (according to some definition of "better"), that means that the drugs are "effective". meanwhile, the underlying mechanism is basically guesswork.

your doctor will probably recommend upping the dosage or trying a different one until something happens. you're actually lucky when nothing happens, because often the side-effects can be bad and get even worse when you stop taking the drug and withdrawal symptoms start. realistically, people take these drugs and their live circumstances change a bit, enough to feel less stress, and they interpret this as the drug working when in reality it's misattribution error. same shit that happens with supplements and other bullshit they market to depressed people.

 No.229268

>>229266
>>229265
>>229262
>>229264
Let me HELP you. Let me HELP you. Just LISTEN.

 No.229269

>>229268
if you want to help, give me money and a robo AI waifu that takes care of my needs. compliment me and give me a healthy self-esteem and teach me how to build cool shit despite my cognitive disabilities and maladjusted emotions.

>no i meant my sales pitch for zoloft


yawn. go ahead…

 No.229270

>>229269
i think you raise real issues that would help you much more than meds. the usual logic is just that you stop feeling tired, empty, unmotivated, so you can work on goals and then having money to do stuff. life is still a grind, i suppose if no one wants to grind whether they're happy or not, thats a legitimate stance. a lot of us here are playing from the bottom on hard mode, myself included wizzie. neetbux would help most people here more than meds imo.

 No.229272

>>229270
ironically, the thing that "cured" my depression was becoming hikkineet because i just removed all the major stressors in my life practically overnight. of course, society and mr. shekelberg isn't going to let you live like that.

 No.229273

>>229272
i agree with you. i spent my whole life chasing employability because ive been constantly threatened with homelessness. all it really meant is i would work jobs for a few months, burn out, start to fall behind, and then get fired. then id have to do it again because… money, bills, no help. stuck in this loop of looking for jobs and getting fired. i eventually got some bux and the stress relief has been unbelievable. my only motivation now to work is help maintain where i live because its from a family member and needs repairs. still grateful though.

 No.229274

>>229272
I don't think you had depression in the first place

 No.229275

>>229274
i can assure you, my scores on the Beck Depression Inventory went down :)

depression might look different for other people, but at the core of its almost always being stuck in a hopeless situation you cannot change or control. imagine a rat in a cage getting shocked no matter what he does - eventually he just does nothing. your stressors might be different, but for me it was commuting in a metal box with other normalfags every weekday and being tortured by an "overactive" nervous system, working a job with normies that looked down on me, clueless or unwilling to even see the social games due to autism, being unable to look people in the eye when i talked to them and overall sense of hopelessness of living in a world i wasn't adapted to. understandably, after quitting my job and giving up on everything, my mood returned to normal. of course, to a psychiatrist, this is failure because my functioning went down and i regressed back, because he doesn't want the best for me, he wants the best for the system, he wants to fit a square into a circular hole. the problem is that they don't even have the tools to do it, therapy rests on convincing the patient to go against himself and ignore his instincts and perception of the world. it only works in mild cases but the person always has an eventual breaking point. one unlucky day when too many stressors pile up and he can't cope and breaks down.

 No.229276

>>229275
i feel like we have been diagnosed with almost the exact same illnesses but what do you plan to do with the rest of your life? i feel kind of lost when im not capable of doing anything. it feels like im doing something wrong to just give up. so i havent completely yet, i suppose.

 No.229277

>>229276
nothing, i'm just taking each day as it comes. i got an exit plan if it gets too bad, until then i'm just following my interests and hobbies. when you fully give up on normie success, you can sort of just observe what's left that isn't motivated by money or status, and that's usually worth exploring further. i think as an autistic wizard, you can still find some success in niche spheres with like-minded people and be respected for your knowledge and abilities. idk, maybe you can be the number #1 sonic the hedgehog speedrunner or the wikipedia maintainer of some obscure interest.

 No.229278

>>229277
ur a good person wiz, thank you.

 No.229279

>>229265
>taking a medicine which doesn't do anything

 No.229280

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>>229275
Sorry, that was a rude thing to say
>Beck Depression Inventory
What scores did you get before and what do you get now?
>imagine a rat in a cage getting shocked no matter what he does - eventually he just does nothing
Learned helplessness

If only becoming a hikkineet cured me
>>229279
It turns out that antidepressants don't work immediately. Who knew? Obviously i'll switch to something else

 No.229281

There has yet to be any evidence that SSRIs reduce depressive symptoms, but there is evidence to the contrary.

 No.229284

>>229249
What you are describing is a lack of a sense of purpose and meaning in your life.

Typically people derive this from their community and the role they play within it. Someone who starts a charity defines their purpose by helping others. Someone who starts a business defines their purpose by the things their business accomplishes for people. Other people derive it from creating works of art or new inventions. There are many ways to get purpose and meaning, all of it comes down to what you actually want to accomplish in life.

You sound like you haven't given that any thought at all and are therefore going about life all wrong. You don't seek out challenges just for some sort of character building purposes. You naturally have to overcome challenges in order to get whatever you want out of life. Some people develop a sense of what this is from a very early age. Typically these people end up being the most successful in their field. If you look into top performing athletes and stuff they will always say from a young age they desired to be an athlete in their sport. It's the same for most other stuff.

If you are naturally lacking a strong drive for yourself and your life, you just have to give it some deep thought. No one can tell you what you want out of life, that's for you to figure out.

It's become broadly harder for people to do this thanks to the industrial revolution which wildly changed how people lived their lives. We are still in a transition phase where we have changed the way we live but we still have instincts that are suited for pre-industrial life. Mostly people just had to focus on surviving, and that was the main purpose of peoples lives. For many this is still the case, but only because we have built up artificial mechanisms to mirror the act of surviving while in fact all our basic survival needs are taken care of by the vast excess provided to us by industrialized society. Now we have to pay rent and other bills so we are forced to wageslave, and for most wage slavery becomes the purpose of their life. Getting a higher wage and avoiding getting fired gives them purpose.

This doesn't work for everyone though because it is still an abstraction and if you can see through the lies of society, it just becomes a bitter pill to swallow. Ted Kaczynski talked about this some I think. For him the solution was for everyone to go back to living in nature, but that was just because he was a crazy person. Ironically when I have lived in nature for extended periods of time though, just focusing on my own survival, I feel much more sane, but you can't really just hunt for food and shit at some point you will be forced to wage slave.

My problem is not that I don't know what I want, it's that I don't know how to achieve it. I know my purpose in life is to revolutionize the system and usher in a better way of life because I view modern life to be a dystopia that is headed for certain doom on its current heading. I largely lack the qualities I would need to do something towards this end, even if I had a good plan, which I don't. Only the haziest beginnings of an idea about what I would need to do. This causes me to languish in a similar state as someone with no purpose at all. It's not fun and if you have a chance to escape this state, I suggest you do everything you can towards that end.

 No.229285

>>229284
*towards achieving that end

 No.229286

>>229249
I'm in a similar position that I haven't escaped so…
I don't think this will help, but I've reached a conclusion (at 30 now) that it is time to focus on output and limiting, heavily curating input.

A lot of the things you mention are still input oriented. So for example the productive hobby you mention being programing, what did you create with it?
Language, what information did you convey using it and to whom and why?
If the answer is nothing, then you just consumed information for no reason. Might as well have jerked off at that point.

I feel like personally all my bandwidth mentally has been taken up by consumption, because there is just so much stuff out there that even if I no longer get a "high" from it, it's just easier and more comforting to live in fantasy land why scrolling through manga.
Reading stuff on here is also still mostly input with no action taken based on it.

Every day there is so much stuff that gets filtered through my brain that I have absolutely no use for.
I'm trying to limit it heavily and focusing more on action, utilizing knowledge, only learning more about something if I need to and only as much as I need to get to where I want to be.

I'm also now trying to create and share my creations with others instead of just consuming what others have created.

I guess a TLDR would be that it's easy to feed endless input/information into your brain daily while barely if at all processing it into anything useful.
I feel like a lot of more competent wizards that have this weird anhedonia/burnout thing might relate. Then again, this is mostly just my subjective experience, don't want to paint you with my brush or whatever the saying is.



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