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 No.230067

Hello, wizzies. I have been thinking a lot about the matter on the title so I wanted to ask for some advice from people who may have already gone through what I'm going. So, first providing some context, I'm a 19yo guy who is just your average apprentice wizard, a khhv who likes otaku stuff, loves to spend his time alone and has his own deep problems, also probably autistic. As many of you must have already experienced throughout your lives, being on this path will influence your relationships with those around you as well, or so I think.
I have three friends/acquaintances which I see every now and then, I think around every 4 months, but I talk pretty often with them through messages, but sincerely, because of our differences, it's been being more tiresome to keep up with them lately because of what I think may be depression (due to many topics which don't fit here) and because since I'm still a virgin (and I'm sure it won't change, nor is it a big deal to me, personally speaking) they have been pushing me to lose it, almost as a joke, saying things like "hey, my gf know a succubus, wizzie, if you're interested just say so…". I know they aren't evil, but honestly? It's still tiresome, and I don't want to humiliate myself by telling them the reasons I will end up as a wizard, even with it being supposed to be simple to understand (this is also already another topic). I can feel their vision about me getting worse by the day. How? Because that's how normalfags usually are. If they link success to sleeping with succubi, then it's obvious their vision about me isn't that good on the inside, even if they don't say it aloud. To make things worse, one of these 3 is completely different from me, he likes going to parties, hates anime and also don't have interests on politics as I do, while the other 2 at least somewhat like anime.
I have been having a hard time deciding whether I should break our friendship or not because I got to know 2 of them on middle school and the giga normie one on elementary school (although we aren't as close as you would expect from such an old friendship, he still makes some effort to be in contact, although I think it's just on a whim because we know each other for a long time).
I'm tired, wizzies, and I feel like my bond with them was always temporary. How am I going to be in contact with them here in 11 years? What will they think about me seeing a mentally ill wizard making minimum wage (if even working at all) and living with his parents? (I won't go to college for many reasons and I probably can't live alone). I hate imagining them with pity on their eyes, or worse, smug smiles directed towards me. I'm really tired, I think I will give an excuse to block them around the end of this year and if they come to my home to know why I did it, I will just say it's none of their business. What do you guys think about this? Is this a smart way of dealing with my situation, or am I being stupid?

 No.230071

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I, respectfully and in the kindest possible way, want to give you a good few wiz-slaps across the face - like in a cartoon - to smack some sense into you. You're extremely young, and it might not seem like it, but things will, can and should change before you reach 30. You're far too young to make this place your identity. There's nothing cool about being a social outcast and fetishizing your loneliness, or deciding to settle for a minimum wage job at 19 years old.

I know where you're coming from but your post is all over the place. You love spending your time alone, but are depressed and "autistic" (e.g. you're an awkward teenager like almost all teenagers) - so clearly you aren't happy.

Are these friends actively mocking you, or are you just assuming they are? As someone who's not had any real-life friends for over a decade, blocking the only friends you have because of something you *think* they're doing *is* stupid. In fact, it's fucking retarded, pardon my French.

Again, I'm not trying to be condescending here, I know what you're going through: "Life is shit, I'm retarded, I can't do anything." - been there, done that, got the t-shirt. That's your brain fucking with you and isn't necessarily even true, and even if it is, you're not even in your twenties yet, you're basically a child, you can change your environment and learn things, maybe you don't go to college or live alone until 23, or 25, so what, start now and get better, in some capacity, in ways which are important to you.

You also don't need people to exactly mirror your interests or lifestyle (or fucking politics, jfc) to be friends. Obviously that gives you an easy conversational inroad, but if these guys are reaching out to you and aren't actually treating you badly, you shouldn't block them. It sounds like pretty standard normgroid-male banter (which I find corny but that's another matter), if that.

I totally understand the feeling of being around supposed friends and feeling like they're being passive aggressive or insinuating things about your social status and doing monkey-brain shit to one-up you, but there's a difference between them actually intending to do that to cause you harm and you projecting your low self-worth onto their otherwise dumb meaningless monkey actions.

Go watch Evangelion, learn to use paragraphs properly, and come back in 10 years if things don't change. Otherwise leave and don't look back. Peace.

 No.230072

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not reading all that
but people always come in handy unless you're some rich kid and even then
it's good to have connections

 No.230073

Don't block them don't be an idiot. Let them introduce you to that succubus, go out with her, get to be her bf and leave this place.

 No.230079

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>>230071
>pic
Thank you for sharing it but… I don't think it resonates with me exactly. I did have dreams even with how I see the world today (my current opinions aren't new), I wanted to be either a doctor or a programmer, to have my own place and spend my free time alone and focusing on my hobbies. It's not that I just want to be a NEET no matter what, it's that because of the shortcomings I've got, my dream of focusing on my career and leading life on my own way went to shit.

>therapist

I go to one to treat one or other thing but I keep the important stuff to myself. Therapists are paid to make you happier, so their commitment isn't with the truth like it's supposed in the pic. They can gaslight you if they think that's the right answer.

>minimum wage

Maybe I exaggerated a little on this part, but it's my only prediction which I think can turn out wrong. But in general I will never manage to really be a productive person for some of the following reasons reasons.

The first one is that I have insomnia, I feel like I have been running on 50% of my full capacity for last 5 years, indeed my brain probably has suffered some damage due to this already, my memory is pathologically bad to the point of forgetting the faces of every new person I know until like the 4th time I see them, or losing myself on paths around my city which I have already walked more than 7 times, or getting the wrong results in simple math calculations, and many more things I can't remember now.

I also don't know if I have ADHD (I know I'm hyperactive, there's no doubt) or if it's because of (a possible) depression, but I can't keep any activity for a long period of time, even the things I like. I have already dropped something like 40 anime and around 7 or 10 books, for example.

Besides, I have paruresis which makes me anxious of going too far from home, and if all of this wasn't sufficient to destroy one's life I also have got NDPH (new daily persistent headache) and can't even read physical books or using a PC properly without feeling pain in my head, so there goes to the trash a bunch of jobs as well.

>You love spending your time alone, but are depressed and "autistic"

Those things don't necessarily contradict each other, I can have things I like to do without being happy in general. I think I'm autistic because 1/3 of what other people eat make me want to throw up, my hands are kinda shaky and I also never know the best thing to be said in a conversation, nor how to react to many situations (for instance, I don't know where to rest my gaze when I'm talking with 2 people at the same time).

>Are these friends actively mocking you, or are you just assuming they are?

Well, kind of both…? They don't really MOCK me and try to make me feel bad but they find it funny to push me to go after succubi, they have that standard thought of "men must date succubi, milestones with succubi are a expected part of life", so they look at me thinking it's an absurd for me as a man to be where I stand and want to be the ones who will change it, in parts because it's funny for them, I think that's the case because back in middle school, when they got to know I was kissless, they would mess with me by telling a succubus they "had a friend interested on her" (I didn't even know that succubus and wasn't there at the moment), and they kept making jokes for the rest of to year about calling her when I was around even with me saying it disturbed me. For some reason, people find it funny to try to be a cupid for me.

On highschool, there was another dude who disturbed me exactly on that same way, he was around 2 or 3 years older than me (he probably lost a year or two) and would make a show to his friends using me, saying "hey guys, this dude is the best!", kinda treating me as a child or a retarded, you know? I was too autistic to realize this at the time, though (I think? My memory is bad, I don't remember). It's… Kinda like giving alcohol to a weirdo, I think, they want to mess with me while they feel they're helping me with something I never asked them help.

And no, I don't have a "low self-esteem", I'm just realistic. I have around 3 minor physical deformities and I'm also short as fuck. My frame isn't that good either.

>again, I'm not trying to be condescending here

Don't worry, I appreciate you took your time to type that post.

>You also don't need people to exactly mirror your interests or lifestyle (or fucking politics, jfc) to be friends

True, but… If they measure the value of someone by he having access to vulva or not, then will they even see me as an equal after years? The other day I had to spend some time with the friend group of friend N.3 and man… 80% of what was discussed on that table was about succubi! If there wasn't beer there then I don't know what it would have been of me. Friend N.3 also shares some of the jokes he does with his other friends and it's always about succubi or pop figures that the great masses like, and he also has the same standard thought I presented previously of friend 1 and 2 and uses "virgin" as an offense to others many times.

>Go watch Evangelion

I have watched the original series 2 times, once in 2018 and another on some year between 2020-2023. I don't think I learned anything from it, to be quite honest…

>learn to use paragraphs properly

Sorry, that's the first time someone warns me about how I organize paragraphs lol, I tried to make this reply less confusing.

>and come back in 10 years if things don't change

What even can be changed from what I described here?

>>230072
>not reading all that
Fair
>people always come in handy
What even can be provided to someone who doesn't want anything? Drugs? I can't do these at all.
>>230073
Read the 7th and 10th paragraph from my first quote and you will understand why that isn't going to happen. Even if I got someone I wouldn't be able to protect her anyway.

 No.230080

>>230067
probably best to cut contact sooner than later, these normalfags will only become more normalfaggy and eventually they will bully you openly, thats what always happens, every friendgroup has the punching bag guy who everyone jokes about and who is oblivious to whats going on in terms of friendship dynamics but sticks around them anyway because he thinks he has no options.
and eventually these guys will have to abandon you as the gf and the family and job etc. become more important to them anyway.
imo the earlier you get used to being alone and friendless the better for you.

 No.230081

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>>230080
Have you already seem that happening, wizzie? Does what you're saying will happen also apply to the extended family?

 No.230082

>>230081
yes I already lived through that and my friendgroup from school lasted to about my early to mid 20s.
at that point it became kinda awkwards because every topic they talked about is some normalfag shit or normalfag bragging etc. and you cant really say anything or partake in such a conversation or relate to it in any way so you just nod along.
and whenever we gotten into an argument the normalfags could just bring up the fact I'm a virgin to "win the argument" and eventually they had no time for videogames anyway and we talked less and less until they vanished from my life.
same happened with my family, I have many cousins and when we were young we got along well but they too have drifted away and have jobs and wifes and families and lots of things to do and in their lives and there is no room for someone like me, wasnt even invited to their weddings.
saw this with my sibling too, I have a sister and used to hang out with her almost every day and she has supported me a lot, even financially and helping me with paperwork for NEET gibs.
but even she has abandoned me eventually, now she has her own family and kids and a job and a house to take care of and there is no time for me in her schedule and the only thing she talks about is "muh kids, muh house, muh job".
now I'm in my mid 30s and have nobody, no friends not offline and not online and have almost no contact to my family.
in hindsight I kinda wish I had abandoned these "friends" earlier because the time spend with them was kinda wasted.

 No.230083

>>230079
>Read the 7th and 10th paragraph from my first quote and you will understand why that isn't going to happen. Even if I got someone I wouldn't be able to protect her anyway.
Well, do whatever you want

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>>230082
Damn, I can relate to the first layers of that process.
If I may ask, didn't you think things could possibly end up like that back then? If you did, then why didn't you dump them earlier to avoid that?

 No.230085

>>230084
I knew that it would end that way eventually but I was procrastinating these thoughts away and it was easy to do because we still had similar interests in videogames/movies so it was easy to keep the friendship somewhat going talking about these things and when I was around your age they werent all that hostile, that creeped in slowly with the years and they turned that way because like you said the normalfags measure success/value by how many succubi you got, if you are in an relationship, have career and job and money etc and I got none of that while they keep moving forward and from their view you fall far behind with that wizard lifestyle and the bigger this gap is the more difficult it is to maintain a friendship, if you can even call it that.
looking back I think they didnt really value me as much as I valued them and too often I was the one who was joked about the most and they just needed me to dump their garbage on me and because they liked to listen to themselves talk while a guy like me agrees.
so clearly it would been smarter for me to abandon them early and spend my time in some other more productive way like getting used to loneliness or learning some skill instead.
but yeah hindsight is 20/20 and by the time you figure it out its usually far too late.

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>>230085
I see. Thank you for sharing your account, wizzie, it's good to have the opinion of someone who already went through the same problem.

 No.230125

Nigga im not reading all of your blogpost. if you want your life to get better meditate.

 No.230126

>>230067
>I'm a 19yo guy who is just your average apprentice wizard
I don't think you can call yourself an apprentice at this age. maybe at 25, you will be an apprentice

 No.230130

>>230067
35 here. became an isolated loser at 25. here's my takes
>being on this path
stop coming here. simple as. be thankful you still have friends. you're too young to be here imo.
>pushing me to lose it
>my gf knows a succubus
take advantage of that.
>dont want to humiliate myself
>i will end up a wizard
those are your choices. with youth and vitality on your side, you are absoluely squandering those ephemeral gifts coming to this website meant for 30+ virgins who are set in their ways.
>i can feel their vision of me getting worse
>thats how normalfags usually are
>link success with sleeping with succubi
>one of them is a chad
all men are like this. they're not your friends. they are always competitors. in the normosphere male "friends" are merely just associates who believe that by associating with you/mutual friends, they can further their social goals (usually getting succubi). your awareness of this does not mean you have to reject it. seeing it for what it is doesn't mean you have to necessarily reject it. if you want the rewards of life, you have to play the game.

you have to be someone who brings value, whether socially or in terms of career. if you choose to be a disheveled, depressed loser, you will just be alone. nobody wants to associate with them. i doubt at 19 thats what you want. at 35, my youth is unmistakably gone, and i simply don't care about that shit anymore. im in a different phase of life.

so ultimately, i would observe your normie friends, observe their behavior, and do some impostor syndrome shit. don't come here, r9k, or any other doomer parasocial websites.

 No.230132

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