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Anti-Suicide General 2 Anonymage 07/28/25 (Mon) 09:10:50 No.301895

Starting a new anti-suicide general as the original has been bump-locked.

Helping wizards to understand that persuasive feelings of suicide can be bested.

Further the discursive spirit of this thread will remain the same as the first: to counter the general luring tenor of sadness that defines all the other threads through sharing positive practical advice purposed to reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidal. Naturally, being that I started the topic, I will be the first to contribute.

(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care (many have already done this, to no worthwhile avail)
(2) Examine what you are eating. For example, gluten especially produces depressive/psychotic episodes in sensitive autistic individuals. Sugar also is not healthy for your brain. Delimiting ingestion of both is wise.
(3) Make sure you are getting sufficient sleep. Chronic sleeplessness or even a few days' worth of irregular sleep can seriously interfere with the clarity of our thinking.
(4) Clean up. Taking a warm shower and putting on fresh clean clothes always is refreshing and helps to break up darkened mental habits.
(5) Breathe fresh air. Open whichever windows punctuate your room and allow some wind to come in.
(6) Watch your breathing. When we are panicked, our breathing can become very disordered and we do not recognize the effect this has on our thinking. Take deep, purposeful breaths, and collect your thoughts.
(7) Respect yourself. You have done your best to survive in an awful world, and you should grant yourself forgiveness for any mistakes and the allowance to rest with a composed and balanced mind.

I've done my part. Anyone else?

Anonymage 07/28/25 (Mon) 10:03:44 No.301896

The only reason for me to feel suicidal these days is then necessity to work, after I've successfully spent the last decade trying to come to terms with existence. I'm feeling peace right now in vacation. But having to go back to work is the only dread I still have. It reminds me that existence is forced and ugly. I even like being around people these days, just having to actively interact with them like at work is terrible.

Anonymage 07/28/25 (Mon) 10:27:57 No.301897

Can you imagine death without suicide? It is horrifying.

You will either be wrecked physically, or suffer a heart attack, or tormented by some terminally illness.

Anonymage 07/29/25 (Tue) 04:56:47 No.301902

>>301896
lol

i werk a good jerb

that does not make feel that way

ktxbye

Anonymage 07/29/25 (Tue) 09:05:26 No.301916

point 3.5

make sure your room isn't too hot
and your sleeping clothes aren't too hot also

(letting fresh wind helps)

I used to wear ridiculous pajamas made out of wool + a blanket, and my sleep was awful.

At some point, I gave up and tried sleeping without it. Sleep quality = improved.

regards, not OP

Anonymage 07/31/25 (Thu) 01:46:07 No.301952

Good thread.

Anonymage 08/08/25 (Fri) 00:39:06 No.302107

I think diet is probably the most important one. I feel worse in the moment of eating bad food yet somehow usually don't even grasp the negative summed effects so much ingested packaged garbage has had on my body and mind until days after having switched back to a healthier eating style.

Anonymage 08/08/25 (Fri) 19:15:25 No.302123

>>301895
appreciate the thread, would be greatly improved with some resources/links to go along with it. Maybe helpful book recommendations. I read Atomic Habits and it helped a bit.

Anonymage 08/23/25 (Sat) 22:42:54 No.302415

Why was it bump locked??

Anonymage 08/24/25 (Sun) 10:16:56 No.302423

>>302415
Thread reached bump limit.
Lurk moar please.

Anonymage 09/11/25 (Thu) 01:22:19 No.302804

>>302415
too much truth

Anonymage 09/11/25 (Thu) 17:27:52 No.302817

>>302107
same thing, basically.

Ive been ranting how lenting effectively gave the very problems vegans get.

Anonymage 10/05/25 (Sun) 00:57:04 No.303308

Stay strong, all wizards

Anonymage 10/05/25 (Sun) 01:11:38 No.303309

Even if you philosophically love suicide and think it's great, you might not be able to do it.

Don't throw away your life dreaming about suicide like me. I never planned for tomorrow because I was so cocky confident there wasn't going to be one.

Just as suicide physically destroys you, the dream of suicide spiritually destroys you.

Even if you are suicidal, you might as well plan to live the best life you possibly can till 90, until the very hour you do it.

"live like its you're last day" isn't liberating, it's just a lot of bad, stupid choices that you'll have to live with. however intellectually convinced you are of suicide, it has 0 to do with being able to actually do it.

Anonymage 10/05/25 (Sun) 02:51:25 No.303310

nice thread. i can get a pretty good diet going when my brain is doing ok but then i stop caring as soon as a depresive episode hits and i binge sugar and slop.
>>303309
100%
10 years ago when i was 16 i was like "lol i am just gonna kill myself so who gives a shit?" and even though i did keep trying, at least for awhile, that pervasive mentality really does fuck your brain over probably

Anonymage 10/05/25 (Sun) 05:40:29 No.303311

>>303309
The problem is not suicide, the problem is that society makes suicide hard and difficult. We would live to the fullest if we had an exit button.

Anonymage 10/06/25 (Mon) 20:46:39 No.303329

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>>301895
I put a finger into some Magick and Ceremonial Magick and Chaos Magick books and… i just learned relaxation, focus and meditation techniques lol
Same with Buddhist books around philosophy and etc.
I like the Kasina/Tatrak and Metta practice.
Ahh and, i read sometimes some of CBT therapy techniques and Hypnosis with CBT science approach. Useful? Maybe.
But i think i can learn much more.
Happy days come every day.

Anonymage 10/06/25 (Mon) 20:48:26 No.303330

>>303329
What books?

Anonymage 10/06/25 (Mon) 21:20:00 No.303331

I think I feel a great emptiness, especially after I became an atheist. Faith was the only thing that made me feel alive. Now I am completely isolated from society. I think I have mutual hatred and mutual non-acceptance with society. I feel lonely and helpless. I almost do not know how long I have not met a human being. Outside, I have been completely isolated for about two years. I have no friends. I have no work. I do not study. I am literally a failure. I think I will commit suicide soon. I am sorry, Mom. I am sorry, Dad, because you gave birth to this failure boy.

Anonymage 10/06/25 (Mon) 22:16:29 No.303332

>>303331
> I think I feel a great emptiness, especially after I became an atheist. Faith was the only thing that made me feel alive.

atheism is based on pragmatism. if atheism provides no utility to you, than the pragmatic position is to go back to faith.

even if you rationally don't believe in it anymore, just believe its in your self-interest to believe, and desire to believe, and behave like a believer. and soon enough it will be the same thing as faith.

Anonymage 10/06/25 (Mon) 22:39:39 No.303333

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>>303331
>Fail and sad bacause turned atheist
Start reading about Secular Humanism philosophy and Buddhism topic around suffering.
>>303330
>What books?
Read this in order
>Cosmic trigger the final secret of the illuminati by Robert Anton Wilson
This maybe can give you some philosophy of life
And now, about Magick first about effects of magick around life of people
>My life with spirits by Lon Milon Duquette
And dont consume drugs and don be a asshole, you can read the book sex magician biographies to know what will happen if you approach that path.

>But i dont want that shit, just gave me the magick techniques
Ok
There are book with Fluff religious-cult and woo woo or new age things and book with some direct approach
Everything its just Meditation, focus-concentration and Hypnosis and breath-work and visualization (other's add it energy work, sensation work)
So let me give you
>Direct to techniques with some fluff things (Chaos magick with some Hypnosis with not to much religious-cult jargon)
-Six ways by Aidan Watcher
-Hands on Chaos magick for reality manipulation etc by andrieh vitimus
-High Magick by Daniels Echols
-Liber Null
-Psychonaut book
-Books of Crowley (this guy just filtered a lot of techniques of Golden Dawn)

>Too much fluff with jargon and cult-religious thing
-Introduction to magic by Julius Evola and UR group
-Golden Dawn rituals and books
-Thelema Rituals
-Any book around old gardner Wicca (or Thelema with witch asthetic lol)

>If you just want positive thinking with Loa and visualizations (maybe just hypnosis and affirmations but woo woo new age thing about manifestation and universe or psych powers bla bla)
-Any new tought books, like Goddard and etc.
I recommend you to read about these guys on wikipedia or youtube. Some are very fraud.

>If you want fluff thing with Pagan fluff aesthetic with some old rituals of Golden dawn or thelema (a lot of these are very personal and chaoist than religious)
-Any Wicca succubus feminist book

>If you just want woo woo and psychobabble with visualization and fringe new age ideas
-Any new age book and self help type with new age babble

>If you want hardcore old magic books (evocation, talismans and that old things)
-Goetia, The magus etc these book didnt have techniques so these are very advanced and are based on more old books.

Anonymage 10/06/25 (Mon) 23:01:10 No.303335

>>303333
>But i dont want to read these damn books, just give the damn technique and fuck off the utilitarian shit i am so deppresed!!!
Ok
You have internet in your hand but you can read about this
>Kasina or Tatrak (or just focus on a thing or a wall like Zen monks)
>Eye fixation hypnosis to start (Adam eason have good books with hypnosis with science CBT approach)
>Training suggestionability (magnetic hands, you can do the later hypnosis thing by training this first, every hypnosis is self hypnosis)
>Meditation (Kasina and Tatrat are a meditation) and Vippasana, Anappasanti
>Visualization techniques (or sensations trainining, firsts books i gave you have these)
>Vagus nerve activation by direct stimulation by hand (cardiologist do this) by breath (box breath) or by eyes (eye fixation to side) or stims somatic exersizes
>Coue hypnosis afirmations every day from wake up at morning to sleep at night (very easy)
>Metta practice with sing (with focus on vowels) for you and others but if hou have to much aversion for yourself, start with others… but if you hate others start with animals, cat, or wathever you like
>Pathworking (or active imagination by jung if you want not controling the visualization) or guided meditation (or a guided hypnosis)
>Stims body techniques or called Somatic exercises (and other times… very similar to Chi kung tai chi or subtle body exercizes)
>Breath work, diapraghm, box breath, visualization with breath, fire breath, no breath and hold breath for panic attacks, there's a lot of techniques.
>Cope mechanism books (there's a very good book with this name)

>Studies around evitation, deppresion, body trauma, isolation, rejection and abandonment and Avpd
That's it.

Anonymage 10/07/25 (Tue) 13:00:50 No.303342

>>303333
Thanks for the more detailed answer than I ever expected.
I was mostly curious about the techniques. I hope I'll find something to calm myself from the constant death anxiety.

Anonymage 10/07/25 (Tue) 15:02:05 No.303345

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>>303331
Atheism is a blessing, the age of the gods is over. You may find happiness in writing your own thoughts.

Anonymage 10/07/25 (Tue) 15:04:40 No.303347

>>303345
atheism is hedonism, if atheism is not providing pleasure, than the atheist position is to believe in god

Anonymage 10/07/25 (Tue) 15:33:43 No.303351

>>303347
72 virgins ass reasoning. Some people actually believes in things because they think it's true.

Anonymage 10/07/25 (Tue) 16:27:32 No.303356

>>302107
masturbating often is bad too

Anonymage 10/07/25 (Tue) 16:31:26 No.303357

>>302107
Interesting point.
I also relate to only feeling the negative effects later on.
I have several bowel/stomach issues and it takes a while for things to move through me, but I can definitely tell once the "junk" has reached a certain point of absorption.

Anonymage 10/08/25 (Wed) 08:44:36 No.303364

>>302107
hmmmmm!

You know, that's exacyly why a wizard can hate is "loving, doting" mother who kept feeding her little wizzie with "tasty, tasty, filling" comfort food - foods like poundfuls of mashed potatoes/macaroni/white bread/oiled soups aren't too good.

It's not too healthy to be fed with [[comfort food]] only, ja…