/dep/ - Depression

>>303292
Have you considered natural solutions like getting healthy and fit first?

Steroids are not a miracle and pros use them under supervision and after maxing everything else out.

Wiz is not the place for this stuff.

>>303294
>Wiz is not the place for this stuff.
Discussion on mens' health and how male-specific hormones affect depression is 100% suitable for Wizchan you dumb chink.

>>303295
If you say so

>>303295
> make me better with succubi.

not if this is the goal

I think low test is a symptom rather than the root cause. The root being oxidant/antioxidant imbalance, lack of nutrients (depleted due to said constant oxidative stress state) and yes, to a lesser degree a dysgenic population ie. males that under normal circumstances wouldn't have have gotten to reproduce so you get inherently shitty metabolisms.

Alas I think there is no solution to this, and there is the problem of ever evolving bacteria and virus. At some point they will become so fit that there will be no antibiotic or antibody that will be able to fight them off without nuking the host in the process. It's simply a natural consequence of unnatural and unchecked (human) growth.

>>303294
>getting healthy and fit first
Lol I mean sure, but please do feel free to explain how so. Keep in mind cancer rates keep slowly but surely creeping up, as well as obesity, autoimmune conditions, early onset dementia etc. Surely there is a common factor here, and there is something that is preventing people from being healthy and fit, it's not like anyone deliberately chooses having bitch tits as a kid.

>>303294
Hard to get fit when you love eating more than anything else and you are already depressed (= low motivation)

I have lost 50 lbs last year but the holidays came and I fucked my self up again.

>>303299
lol

>>303301
That's a difficult problem to have, hope you succeed.

>>303302
Thank you but to elaborate I mean love as in it was the only thing that made me feel good. I'm not a foodie or anything. I just Associated food with love because no one else gave me any

>>303299
>I think low test is a symptom rather than the root cause. The root being oxidant/antioxidant imbalance, lack of nutrients (depleted due to said constant oxidative stress state) and yes, to a lesser degree a dysgenic population


Interesting!

Because I used to drink A LOT of coffee, had ruined sleep, and only this year, I learned there's a ton of antioxidants in coffee. Maybe I only craved coffee for the antioxidants all along…


Care to tell me if there's a book on such a theory?

>>303299
I agree with a lot of this. Low-T is essentially just the latest normie slur which they use to denigrate anyone who they think isn't 'alpha' or manly enough or whatever other reason they might have to dislike you. Not to say that there is no clinical low testosterone to be observed but it's just being used as a catch all in improoover circles nowadays.

The decreasing life expectancy in the West is likely due to all the chemicals we have put into the environment and are ingesting through food, clothes, hygiene products etc. Microplastics in the brain and lung tissue and so on. The decrease in nutrients in the foods, as you mentioned but not just due to oxidative stress but things like soil depletion too.

Of course this comparison is almost trite these days but humanity really has spread like a tumorous growth, mindlessly consuming and poisoning everything it relies on for its own subsistence and in the end, creating its own demise.

Best you can do as far as I can tell is try to limit processed food as much as you can or are willing to, move your body more and try to get good sleep. Beyond that, there seems to be a point of diminishing returns in terms of health benefits.

>>303292
Bring fat is what spirals low T. Having experienced what its like to have high T, You feel like you can do or try anything. You can hack at a problem for hours until your body starts to hurt from hunger. Your focus is very concentrated among other things. That said, high T isnt permanent.

Testosterone has its purpose and is supposed to rise and fall. You literally can't sleep if your T is too high. You have to jerk off or something similarly taxing otherwise you have too much energy. and will toss and turn all night

Fatness is simple. If you stopped eating goyslop and started walking or doing physical tasks for hours like your fucking body was built to do, you wouldnt be this way. That simple.

TLDR Low T makes you a bitch that cant do anything effectively and saps all your energy away. Its no wonder men are largely useless at fighting for themselves in the modern day

>>303292
>is lack of testosterone our main problem?
No. It's severe mental illness.
You're welcome.

>I've seen studies where they have said that testosterone is at a historical low for many males, testosterone gives you resilience to emotional problems, makes you more competitive, more risk-taking Etc.


Well… as a soiboi tired of "soiboi" tier nervousness, I think OP may be right.


>Has anyone gotten testosterone replacement treatments or taken steroids how did it make you feel?

Never did.
Not sure if tested for testosteron levels.
I lent (abstain from animal-based food) for many days a year, nearly half a year… while my peers don't. SAD!

>>303292
Probably not. Very much anecdotal, but my testosterone is around the upper reference limit (due to genetics) and it does not make me any less of a sperg.

>>303338
Me mum saps my emergy anyway, so who cares

>>303561
bitchy naggy succubi tend to do that. Best you can do is just ignore naggers and become a stubborn brick wall best you can. If my mom bitches at me to do something annoying but necessary i'll do it but not even acknowledge the drivel coming out her mouth.

sometimes when I do inevitably get annoyed i'll just tell her to shut up. And since the necessary task is being done she does shut her mouth or lower her tone. Sucks being forced to live with someone who gets a kick out of being loud and obnoxious.

sometimes when i catch a glimpse of how other people's mothers treat them in comparison it seems incredibly alien. Like i thought mothers only loved their kids in TV shows or the like, it almost seems like a surrealist comedy at my expense

>>303637
>>303637
instructions unclear, drank 6 cans of beer this weekend, feel significantly less "socially anxious" than usual

>>303292
Great thread served warm straight from the gurgling bowels of nu social media news aggregates that promote hypochondria lifestyle! Don't forget to take a dozen supplements, try out a new fad diet each month and exert yourself until your heart skips beats regularly because other fellow wizzies who got brainwashed, such as >>303338, told you so.

If this works as an incentive for losing weight then good luck to you. I can tell you how it's on the other side of the fence. I feel exactly like you except I have always eaten less, I guess.

>>303643
>try out a new fad diet each month and exert yourself until your heart skips beats regularly because other fellow wizzies who got brainwashed, such as >>303338.

Go ahead and be a whiny retarded faggot who doesn't want his life to change. but dont complain when your problems dont solve themselves

Like I said high T isn't permanent. There are ups and downs naturally. If a lot has to be done then grit your teeth and get it done. Relaxation feels that much better when it's earned in effort and sweat. sometimes through scrapes and bruises. Even children know this

People often wish they had high T, or lie about it online, but it exists for a reason and compels you into action. If you think this is some normie platitude then rot. Just keep rotting because there is no other option for you

>>303655
image sauce??

>>303656
>>303656
based on Mafumafu (singer)