/dep/ - Depression

>>305927

Most people rarely outgrow high school. In your place I'd just feel second hand embarrassment towards them and not show any reaction for something this petty that is not even worth thinking about.

>>305928
>not show any reaction
After all these years, I've come to the conclusion that my reaction to it is irrelevant for them. The act of shouting nicknames at me is like an inside joke for them, their feeling of satisfaction is complete regardless of what I say in response.
>something this petty that is not even worth thinking about
Anon, this is the 3th year that I have to deal with it, this is something that really bothers me. I don't want to say the nicknames they call me but, for example, if someone randomly started shouting "cuckold" at your direction every time he saw you, couldn't that cause the people around you to form wrong ideas about you? I'm getting more anxious about walking around because of the possibility of being spotted by them on the streets.

>>305929

> for example, if someone randomly started shouting "cuckold" at your direction every time he saw you, couldn't that cause the people around you to form wrong ideas about you?

It would cause that, but I don't care what people think since I perceive most of them as thoughtless NPCs, unless it really affects my career or social status. But I empathize with you.

At least it isn't that bad to the level of them recording you, stalking you, etc.

> I'm getting more anxious about walking around because of the possibility of being spotted by them on the streets.

Do you stand out bad enough that wearing a cap with sunglasses and checking your surroundings to keep keep some distance be futile?

>>305927
yeah this is bizarre how much normies are into these petty torments and how persistent they are in their behavior. simply asking them to leave you alone just makes it worse. you have to be very quick once they start doing this immediately leave or break off the conversation

>>305930
>social status
This carries some risk, since I don't walk to places that far from home, so there's always a chance someone I know might be nearby. I also have no idea if they'd be brazen enough to do it if they saw me with my family.
>At least it isn't that bad to the level of them recording you, stalking you, etc
Well, yeah. I think it could be worse.
>Do you stand out bad enough…
Unfortunately, yes.
>keep some distance
My eyesight is terrible. I'm usually spotted first, not the other way around.
>>305931
>you have to be very quick once they start doing this
I was too autistic to realize it back then. Now I just try to get out of where I am quickly if I see them.

Encountering people from school was a deep fear of mine too until I wake up realizing I am 26 and my high school memories is 8 years old. We're probably unrecognizable to each other now. Some probably already has a family. The dynamic that existed when we're both 18 can't exist anymore even if we want it to.

>>305933
It seems like you had more luck than me.

I had this happened with school bullies never went to high school if only family was rich maybe but no stuck in this shithole to die

>>305927
My neighbours have harassed and talked shit about me and my mother for 3 years straight now too, God knows for long they've actually done it before I started to notice. They have great social standing so they effortlessly spread shit about me, basically turning me into an even more of a pariah.
You won't find any peace until you move out and take note of what made you gain those nicknames in the first place. If your new neighbours notice that you're lacking on one of the many developmental milestones like driving they'll begin to tease you and scalate until you give them a real reason to stop, being on your own emboldens them.
I'm sorry anon but if you can't move out your only options are violence or to endure, don't even try to reason or find out why they're still doing it, animals don't think like that.

NGHHHH IM NOT TAKING IT IM GONNA GET MY RVENGE

>>305953
BASEDBASEDBASED

>>305929
Call the police for harassment immediately. This is a real crime in almost every country you go to and I've seen people get killed over less. Don't hesitate. Pull out your phone, record the harassment and report it to the police or call them on the spot.

>>305932
>I was too autistic to realize it back then. Now I just try to get out of where I am quickly if I see them.
Same story. Once I started doing this, I couldn't believe I hadn't been doing this before. Felt like unlocking a new skill in a video game

Do you know their full names? Do you know how they look. Sick the angels of wrath on them my brother wizard. The book is Angels of Wrath: Wield the Magick of Darkness with the Power of Light . If you fast days before, pick a ritual and call the names out loud. Picture the names and say what you want to happen to them. Every time i used this on the people that have done me wrong, they met calamity. It's probably some kind of chaos magick, but these angels are hardcore. No demon shit, be pure of heart and destroy them. Magick is the only way i have felt the hand of God.

link pdf: https://limewire.com/d/W8MDg#AmVo3NUPXT

>>305935
HS is a waste of time for most people anyway, most countries offer tests that give people the opportunity to earn a high school equivalency certificate, I think.
>>305940
That sucks, anon. Do your neighbors only talk badly about you behind your back, or do they approach you to bother you as well?
>your only options are violence or to endure
I know, I just wanted to vent a little. Unfortunately, violence isn't an option to me (I'm not a pacifist or anything, it's just that I really can't do anything at all)
>why they're still doing it
They just like to tease me, there's no real reason.
>>305953
Anon…?
>>305958
I've thought about doing this, and maybe I'll actually take that initiative if I can muster the courage to do so, but the following points have prevented me from doing it so far: I don't understand a lot of law and don't know how well it would work. Plus, I feel like I'd be yelling to everyone involved like the judge, police, my mother (I don't know how to do anything alone), and lawyer, that I'm a loser who has been harrassed verbally for years, and it will make me feel pretty pathetic. I also don't have a lot of evidence because it happens very randomly. Do you think that in the next time this happens I should go over and confront them directly while I'm recording, or would I just embarrass myself doing it?
>>305963
It surprises me how I managed to be so autistic in some moments of my life, it doesn't surprise me much that I'm having to deal with this nowadays.
>>305965
>Do you know their full names?
I know the first names of some of them, but as their inside joke, I've become so popular in the social circles they frequent that I don't know the names of most of them now.
>Do you know how they look
I know what the main ones who bother me look like, although I'm bad at remembering faces.
>Sick the angels of wrath on them my brother wizard
Although I'm somewhat skeptical, I think I'll give the book a chance. My bad memory probably won't help me perform the rituals correctly, though. But I thank you anyway.

>>305969
>I've become so popular in the social circles they frequent that I don't know the names of most of them now
This got a bit vague, so I decided to elaborate. I think there are about 5 or 6 people who are still bothering me (I don't look at where the sound is coming from, and as I said before ITT, my eyesight is bad, so I don't have a very clear idea of who they all are exactly), but some of those who started it all have stopped already (I think). I probably know the names of about half of them, but I'm not sure.

You can quite literally get a restraining order in pretty much every first world country. You go to the police station, say you're persistently being followed around, they're shouting names at you, it's been going on intermittently for years.

The police will contact them telling them to leave you alone. And after that if they do it ever again, and you film it, they will likely be prosecuted.

Check the local laws and if it's something that happens multiple times a year, go for it. If it's like once every three years or so just ignore them OP, it's literally no big deal.

>>305978
But yeah, the best way is to capture it on film and then go for the restraining order. If you have film evidence it goes a long way.

Restraining orders are used all the time for people wanting to be separate from their family. It's not something that cops use to go after people right away, but it's used as a signifier that someone wants to be left alone, and if contact continues it's persistent harassment.

>>305978
>>305979
are covert bodycams allowed in OPs country?

This is what I hate about retail work. I see about 50 regular customers who I went to school with.

>>305978
>You can quite literally get a restraining order in pretty much every first world country
I'm a thirdie, anon. Although I think it would be quite difficult to obtain a restraining order, I believe I might be able to get some money from them for moral damages, maybe.
>once every three years
This happens about once every two months, partly because I don't like leaving my home. What bothers me the most is that it makes me anxious when I decide to leave the house. It's something like the chinese water torture.
>>305979
>>305981
I will try to study a little bit more of law to understand how the judgment would work, I have a somewhat good amount of savings that might help me to pay a good lawyer without involving my mother but I'm not sure of how far I can go by myself on my first legal case. I'm going to try to confront them while recording if I have enough courage, if they just don't react then I will buy a covert bodycam and try again. They probably won't take me seriously in both situations and honestly there's some possibility that I will just bitch out when it happens again, I'm trembling slightly while I type this, this shit is just so pathetic. The good part is that I still have the contact of some witnesses.
>>305983
I already wouldn't be able to work in that field normally, but having to deal with acquaintances must really make it a nightmare sometimes.

>>305988
i feel you bro. ive been in your shoes more times than i can count.
>being stalked in middle school for years
>made a trend (everybody had my face as their phone's lockscreen)
>bullied and harassed

obviously if youre ND then youre basically fucked. your inability to detect subtle social cues makes you marked as prime target for harassment. the bullying will depend on your physicality tho, if youre a bit taller than your peers then it won't go beyond remarks/verbal abuse, if youre shorter though i can't imagine the hell you can go through anon. If youre a NEET and have no friends then nobody will come to save you from the bullying. if theyre the bunch that follow you and slowly torture you then simply ignoring them won't solve a thing. if youre positive that they won't get physical then please just get your cellphone out (or put it in your outer pocker with the audio socket out) and try to record their insults. since you know their names some of them will be bound to get in trouble. Sometimes the only solution is law enforcement, exile, or violence.

if theyre still like this after HS then they're dogshit human being not worth the breath they take from the trees.
Best of luck anon.>>305988

Might I suggest a reframing of how you think of what they shout.
Can you say with certainty that only shout out inappropriate things in your presence?
Perhaps they do the same to many people and at many times.
Think on it.
Simply change the framing and they become something to pity.

>>305989
>>being stalked in middle school for years
>>made a trend (everybody had my face as their phone's lockscreen)
>>bullied and harassed
I'm sorry for what you had to go through, I think you had it even worse than me, being honest. The worst cases of harassment that I hear about are those that occurred in middle school.
>if youre ND
I am, and my autism used to be way worse. I never really had problems in understanding subtle social cues like irony, my problem has always been not knowing how to react to the environment, which obviously made me a weirdo.
>if youre shorter
Yeah, I'm a manlet too. But they never physically threatened me at least, I just went through lack of respect.
>If youre a NEET and have no friends
I'm not exactly a NEET because I help my mother on her job. I have one or two people who maybe I could call "friends" but I think they don't know about this (I hope so tbh) and I don't think they would be of any help on this matter.
>if youre positive that they won't get physical then please just get your cellphone
This is going to be my main plan for now.
>Best of luck anon
Thanks, bro.
>>305998
I can understand why you would think that way but no, they've been doing this specifically to annoy me since HS. I already talked to them before and used to try to tease them back in the first few times (never worked).

>>306002
this was both in middle/highschool, though youre significantly less likely to be hurt in HS than the former. i also relate to the problem of not knowing how to react to insults and peer pressure in general. it's like i have a mental blockage that completely prevents me from responding to verbal abuse. Im also a thirdie so i can see how getting a restraining order can be a problem here too. The law is basically a suggestion over here. but i get your point. you've been bullied and disrespected all your life and it's fucking time you be treated like a human being and not rely on others and keep your dignity. again best of luck anon.

>>306007
>how to react to insults
Actually, I don't even know how to react even in a normal conversation when I'm talking to someone I'm not close, kek. My social skills have only improved slightly because I've accumulated experience and observed how others react to everyday situations.
>best of luck anon
Thanks, brother.
>>306009
I don't think that just by seeing me recording they would take me seriously but I need to at least try. Fortunately, I still have the contact of some people who witnessed the harassment in HS, this can be of some help.
>>306010
What discourages me the most is having to learn to deal with something complex on my own. I'm not used to doing difficult things alone.

move the hell away for the love of magic. you've nothing to lose anyway. one city or another is all the same for somebody like you. there'll be your peace, or as much as a modern day wizard can have

>>305928
>not even worth thinking about
t. never been called names in his entire life

i can't believe some people have such low self awareness as you do. not bothering about shit is a decades long process of internalizing complex self knowledge and even then it's only a conscious construct that has to continuously keep the unconscious in check.

>>305927
yes bully memories still haunts me after more than a decade.

>Being me
>got a job
>everything is ok for the first time in my entire life
>speak to coworkers
>after some months coworkers begin to act WAY too familiar. like, a lot

>begin to throw shit at each other, me included

>one of them point out a delicate situation about me not going to work past week

it hurts
he laughs
everyone laughs
i fucking wish him to shut the fuck off
got so much shit inside me so I cant figure a way of resolving this withouth violence

my instincts are telling me to throw a punch as revange for all those years being bullied in highschool
bullies will never change anyway they will just keep stomping anyone withouth a concern and getting way with it so the right answer for me is to kill em as erwin taicho states right?

am i way too much in shit for not being able to control my emotions and thinking this is gonna end with my in prision or as a hero in news?

>>306098
1. You probably should switch your current job to night shifts.
Your excuse: "traffic jams finally got me".

2. If fails, switch jobs, but only once your "night shifts" plan failed.

Your excuse: "past jobs was about night shifts. Unfortunately, the windows get too much sunlight in the morning and I just cannot sleep from all the light and heat."

>>305927
Not quite like this, but yeah, I get the general sentiment.
Abused kid, everyone knew about my situation, small village, was bullied as a result, like, major life changing stuff at multiple points in life.
Was a nervous wreck, never quite adapted. Never quite got a fresh start either.

I changed schools 3 times by the time I was 18 and always there was at least a few people who "followed me" as they also changed schools.
These people often weren't the bullies themselves, but soon enough they told my tale and presented me as a social offering to the new tribe if that makes any sense.
They used my past torment and my weakness as a gateway to fitting in themselves. So I never really had a chance on my own merit.

To this day I'm haunted, it happens at at work too if you are unlucky. Contrary to popular belief the "bad bully" wont be your subordinate and you the boss later like my mom used to say.
A loser stays a loser because of the learned behavior patterns and developed character. The bullies are socially apt, they usually rise up.
Ironically enough I had the misfortune of meeting some when I was forced out of neetdom. You can guess how that went.

>>305940
This here is probably the worst of it.
Life is just one eternal highschool. I'm glad to have read your post. Said well and concise.
My mother is the same as me and lived through much humiliation too.
When I was younger I didn't understand why she was so nervous about how we present ourselves, but yeah later on this happened to us too and now I get it.
In an apartment complex you can get screwed in so many ways if the others sense blood in the water, weakness or whatever.
If there is a pre-existing clique and you make one mistake at work as well, you'll suffer. Same everywhere.

All in all the worst is that unless you have the money you can't even escape this. I plan to change my name once I have the money to move somehow so I can completely leave my past behind.
Don't enjoy the fact that I'm named after my father either. If I took my mothers family name I'd be called Hunchback, literally, it's ridiculous as well.

This might go wrong in the long run though. Despite a future fresh start, I myself wont change so I might just fall in the same trap.

>>306010
This is true for many things though. If you lived the experience long enough you'll see that it's best to believe that the grapes are sour to begin with.
How many disappointments and humiliation can one person endure?
At this point I don't even go to the doctor anymore unless I feel like I absolutely can't take it anymore. It's pointless, they often don't help and you'll go through humiliation for no gain.
Pain persists, but now you stacked some mental debuffs too.
Idk why I responded when I basically agree with your statements. The way it was phrased just felt like the "victims" are unreasonable when they simply adapted to their reality.

>>305927
God I fucking hate people from HS

>>305927
Just wanting to be left alone is my primary goal in life. Too much trauma.

Record them harassing you and show the footage to someone who can do something about it.

>>306177
Same.
Thanks for the reminder I have fulfilled my quest for a career that gives me the part where I get to be left alone.

I just now went for a walk and saw two kids playing with a ball, it came over to me so I passed it back. It was a weak pass. I barely touched the thing and it meandered slowly back across the grass. They made fun of me. I told them to fuck off. We then had a twenty minute anime battle through different environments, ending in Dead Rising tier weapon combinations and chairs beat across heads. Then I woke up.

Been out of school for over a decade and still get little reminders like this of the shitty time I had, lol.

Didn't think this thread was still alive since I don't scroll down too much and stay more on the newer threads when I pass by here. I also was kinda embarrassed to see this thread again… until it showed itself to my face now.
I didn't run into them again since the day I made this thread and honestly I figured out that the best course of action for me in case I see them again will be offering them some money and ask for them to stop, only if it doesn't work I will rec and fight in the law.
>>306027
Not entirely related but I think every now and then about doing that, just to stay away from this city which holds all my traumas. But as I am now, I'm too dysfunctional to live by myself, I dare to say that I'm almost disabled.
>>306098
I'm sorry you have to deal with it, anon. I really don't know what you should do, I hope you have already found a way to solve it by now.
>>306141
>they told my tale and presented me as a social offering to the new tribe if that makes any sense
It does. Although my situation wasn't as bad as yours, it happened with me in a minor scale over my years in high school.
>The bullies are socially apt, they usually rise up.
I feel like school is a test and you only pass it if you go against what your teachers and parents say and use your time to build memories and connections. Needless to say that I lost on this test.
>You can guess how that went.
Yeah, I can…
>>306144
Same here.
>>306177
I would unironically become a monk if I were religious and didn't have the limitations I have.
>>308558
That's what I plan to do if the plan I described on this post doesn't work. But until then I didn't see them again at least.
>>308586
Thank goodness I don't remember my dreams, or I would probably go over a lot of weird shit too.

>>308660
>I feel like school is a test and you only pass it if you go against what your teachers and parents say and use your time to build memories and connections.
Ain't that the truth. Teens rebel when they realize they've been hoodwinked, but a lot of the time it's too late.
>I would unironically become a monk if I were religious
So if you were an entirely different person? I would not be a virgin either if my stats were different. This isn't saying much. It's not controversial.

>>308660
>I figured out that the best course of action for me in case I see them again will be offering them some money and ask for them to stop
Don't do this, it will only bolster them to do more and more since they will know they can gain from it. Call the police already the first time

>>308661
>>I would unironically become a monk if I were religious
The feeling I wanted to share was that I wanted to have courage and favorable conditions, enough to distance myself from everyone I ever knew so far. But you're right here, I expressed myself poorly.

>>308667
They do it because they think it's funny, I think if they realize how embarrassed I get we can get a deal. I can also turn on my phone's voice recorder before talking to them, just in case.

>>308660
>the best course of action for me in case I see them again will be offering them some money and ask for them to stop, only if it doesn't work I will rec and fight in the law.
terrible ideas, both of them. The first one will only make them bully you harder, extort you, or both. The second idea, going to the police, won't do anything unless you live in a country where they actually care about stuff like that, even if it's illegal chances are the police/judge will tell you to just suck it up.

The only choices left would be to either leave that place, or stand your ground by mocking them back. If they want to get physical with you in response, you should always carry something in your pockets that makes them think twice about approaching you. If you can't escape from being their weirdo might as well become their unpredictable weirdo.

>>305927
rolling

>>308676
Mocking them back would hardly work, will just show how much I'm seething. I really want to live in another city though, I hope I don't have to deal with all of this again until it finally happens.
>>308677
Checked.

>>308676

recording the harassment (getting documented video evidence of their abuse) and showing it to someone who could do something about it (whether police or family or friends), absolutely is the smartest course of action.

>>308681
Bodycam costs 20$

>>308681
Police don't give a damn nowadays, they won't investigate anything nowadays unless you get murderered or are a member of a special minority group. I don't want to derrail with politics but yesterday some autistic 17yo frenchie got beaten to death after reporting to the police that they had assaulted him a few weeks prior, reporting with footage included that the police just ignored. what I'm trying to say is you can no longer rely on police for protection. I'm a hikikomori so I don't go out but if I had to I have some tools ready, something like a phillips screwdriver will give you plausible deniability if carrying weapons is not legal in your country (aka every country except USA). Of course only for intimidation and last defense, you should never start anything unless there's a serious threat.

Since I already decided more or less what I'm going to do, I feel like I'm only losing other people's time with this thread from now on. I will delete it soon (if the passoword is right), thank you to everyone who gave me advice and sorry if I didn't answer some of you in the best way.
I will move to another city as soon as possible and leave my house as little as I can. I gave up on giving them money since anons said it would be idiot, although some part of me still thinks it could work.
>>308681
I thought about doing this before but realistically the cops would only call me a fag. I don't know exactly how the law works and it sounds like a too big headache for a dude who has only the money of his part time job and don't want his parents involved.