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What is the average wizard's relationship with religion like? No religious person has ever been able to give me a good argument for why God, if he is out there, is not the most maximally evil being in the universe simply by the virtue of creating suffering when he could have chosen not to. Saying "suffering builds character" and derivatives of is just a manifestation of their stockholm syndrome for this vile entity

>I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I YHWH do all these things - Isaiah 45:7

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I read up on religious cults and pretty much every founder is a delusional narcissist rulebreaker. Aleph in Japan had its prophet and founder be a literal school bully that'd beat on other children. Joseph Smith is a recent example where there's actual court records of him fleecing people with seer stones. But modern cults like the moonies (which is now a religion) have made the transition to the organized religion phase and just coast. Typically after the charismatic syncretic leader dies, if they manage to land on a tempered administrator, they transition to a religion. Jesus Christ/Paul, Mohammad/Abu Bakr, Joseph Smith/Brigham Young follow this pattern.

Reading the bible I just don't see Jesus as any different than your typical Pentecostal faith healer that's fleecing his congregation. He comes across arrogant and vague, and purposely hid his lessons from the public with parables. It's only after he died and Paul came along that the religion was codified and organized into something workable.

Organized religions in the modern era are basically rent seeking corporations. They arise as cults early on in a spur of charisma, amass followers, grift their congregation, and then dump that money into property and investments. Decades pass, the founder dies, new recruits dry up, and most of the money comes from investments rather than tithes. At that point the leadership is content to let the church decline and start redirecting church money to other sectors, such as media or real estate. That's what's happening to Jehovah's Witnesses, they literally redesigned their kingdom halls in a pattern that allows for an easy transition to commercial businesses.

I don't know, I'm a cynical guy. I actually think organized religions are good because they provide structure and guidance, but every organized religion comes from a seedy origin. And the modern era with its pluralism has just allowed the most exploitative and Machiavellian cults to outcompete organized religions.

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>>306451
organized religions are for npcs and gnosticism is for real human beings



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