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 No.307205

This thread is for talking about OCD, addictions, or those kinds of disorders that ruined our lives
>So
When I was a kid, I had some pretty OCD-like behavior—I’d touch things and check them over and over until I felt reassured that everything was okay. I also used to walk on my tiptoes, which is a bit autistic, but I eventually stopped doing that (I don’t know if I have autism at this point bacause never did a test, but whatever).
>So what’s up with you?
Well, in my case is limerence (some studies say is co-related to OCD)
>And what’s that like?
Well, imagine a succubi (for some people even can be the other sex you dont like) talks to you and treats you kindly once or twice, and then you start getting way more than just nervous around her because your body starts releasing dopamine, serotonin, and all that shit. And since you don’t know what’s going on, you think you like her or have fallen in love, but its NOT.
really it’s just fucking anxiety toward a “thing.” Because you’re constantly seeking validation in some way—whether for friendship, attention, or love but you have this anxiety that you know is inappropriate, and if you act on it, the feeling of danger gets worse, it’s almost like you’re having a heart attack. and as time pass the thing got worst and worst and you get more obsessive, nerveous and get a peak of anxiety, even start to rumiate or have that thing of limerence (LO) living rent free in your head bacause your brain cant stop thinking about your LO
>What was the worst experience you've ever had?
Even you will end starting to dream with the LO and have happy dreams or nightmares and waking up crying bacause you are getting the peak of anxiety and dopamine,etc sec before waking up. this shit can even ruin friendship.
>Why the hell does this happen?
I don’t know, genetics, anxiety, depression, emotional dependency, low self-steem, negligent parents, love hungry, maybe OCD etc and a whole lot of shit
>You're larping this nonsense
but in my case, it’s not like those internet memes of bitch tumblr succubi where it only happens once and they use like a joke for love or crush
>You're a retard and you fall in love go fuk yourself wizard
No, no it’s happened to me constantly over the years even as kid, and only last year did I realize that it’s unhealthy and that I have to control it. I don’t even genuinely like the succubi who end up being my objects of limerence (LO) its so fucked up like a addiction bacause its ruin my fucking life.
>So what are you doing now?
I'm trying to read up on this crap and stay away from certain types of people who might trigger that LO stuff in me again.

 No.307206

are you sure you're not just very horny? go see a doc

 No.307217

Unironically go read the limerence subreddit.

 No.307234

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>>307217
>Unironically go read the limerence subreddit.
I've already done that, I have quite a few post from plebbit saved in my bowsers bookmarks that I usually read from that place and maybe can help me.
>Also
The only thing I know is that, in my case, it seems to have happened last year (with a lot of force than other times) because I was so anxious and had so many problems that I wanted to find an escape to ignore my problems even though I wasn't even aware of that shit, my body reacts on its own to any little thing about my LO.
In the end, I told my LO what was going on with me and explained, as best I could, that I wasn't in love or anything like that, I don’t think my LO understand a damn thing. Eventually, my LO removed me from their contacts, though I’m not sure yet (I don’t see their profile picture anymore) Sometimes I start ruminating, though I just realized it happens when I see or hear etc triggers related to my LO (music, things related to my LO, etc.) or prone fantasy love stuff, so I try to stay away from these topic.
I’m reading one of the books on hypnosis and cognitive-behavioral stuff from here, and it helps a little. I guess you have to practice some mental hygiene and try not to think so much.
In some PubMed articles on OCD and limerence, certain techniques from OCD treatment to stopping intrusive thoughts help reduce the issue of limerence a bit.

At least I’ve reached the point where I’ve become aware of this shit and of my LO things; I’ve stopped putting her on a pedestal of perfection and now see her as just another human being—though I don’t think she ever tried to show me her human side, and to me she was something perfect. Of course, that’s just my sick fucking mind, I suppose.
The last time it happened to me was when I was 12 and then again around 16. Since then, I’ve been managing it more or less without knowing what the hell it was, but last year it got really bad.
For a while, I thought there was something wrong with a gland or something in my brain; I even read something about the vagus nerve and the stellate ganglion, but I guess it didn't really get to the heart of what was actually wrong with me.

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>>307206
>are you sure you're not just very horny? go see a doc
As I mentioned earlier, I used to think there was something wrong with my brain or some glands or something like that, but I got medical checkups and everything, and there was nothing wrong.
So in way is bacause of anxiety and other problems.
>Also
Right now, I don't have any more of those succubi-LO hardcore 24/7 and rent-free living in my head thoughts that pop into my head every once in a while—basically, she've stopped existing for me (although, as I said, those triggers could still screw me over one day)
I don't know if this shit will start again, but I try not to get involved in romantic or flirty stuff, and I also try to keep my anxiety in check in case it spikes and my body starts looking for something new LO-succubus to obsess over and get carried away with stupid fantasies or too nerveous behaviour
I mean, it's not even like my LO are some fucking supermodels or they have a lot of sex appeal or something, thing just happen.
It's not like other people think like “Damn, I get why he's obsessed” but Its not like i let myself get carried away by obsessions like those crazy people in shity hollywood films, this shit makes feel miserable in general.
>Also
If you want to hear a story, yesterday at college a succubi was nice to me and shared something (what? food) with me, and it gave me a bit of anxiety because of this, I realized she was being nice only because I’d been nice to her first. It’s stupid, but I tried to be polite and aloof at the same time, even though I don’t want to lose what little friendship I might be able to build things like this in some way can turn me paranoid in social situation sometimes.
However, nothing has happened for months bacause i read a lot of crap around this thing of limerence and OCD
Although I think I'm actually happy about this because I feel like I'm gaining some self-control and awareness through all this crap.

 No.307252

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>>307247
>If you obsess over succubi this website is not for you.
I started this thread after reading the chan rules, again.
I’m not in love with a succubi, my damn brain is messed up and keeps getting fixated on a “thing.” It’s not that different from OCD, except that this shit hasn’t been studied much because the specific conditions that trigger it are different from typical OCD though they might be related.
That’s why I’m trying to explain this shit about the LO (Limerency Object) and the limerent object thing
I’m not in love with that succubi, nor do I feel something.
My body just reacts out of inertia, like a state of freezing and panic followed by anxiety and other obsessive-compulsive effects like rumination and other shit around LO thing.
I can't tell any of my family or so-called “friends” about this shit because I know the first thing they'd say is that I'm crazy or that I should try to make a move on (my LO or you can call her or succubi if you want your sex/genre shit), when I don't want any of this shit.

The worst part about this is that I read that sometimes it happens to some people with members of the opposite sex whom they aren't attracted to, regardless of age this shit just ignore your sexual preferences sometimes with some people, never happened to me)
I guess they call it “Object” because using concepts like love, romance, or obsession subject etc don't make sense to this whole thing that in reality just dehumanizes the people you're obsessed with and puts them on a pedestal in your mind as if they were perfect.
I started this thread partly in case to see if another wizard is going through or has gone through this crap.

 No.307269

>>307252
I am very sorry I have misinterpreted your post.
>I’m not in love with that succubi, nor do I feel something.
The word "limerence" can also mean infatuation but you seem to refer to some specific mental illness I am not familiar with.

I suffer from severe mental illness (schizophrenia) and must constantly listen to these voices, commenting on my thoughts. I think something and they start shouting "comments", if I think "I don't ever want to have sex" like I did just now to hear their response, they shouted back "you are fucking lying you want to have sex". It's all in my head and it isn't my thoughts.
Well I guess maybe you are ruined too with your fixations and physical responses.
This shit doesn't get better.

 No.307270

my OCD ruined my life. now i just live in fear and take meds drink beer

 No.307273

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>>307269
>I am very sorry I have misinterpreted your post.
>The word "limerence" can also mean infatuation but you seem to refer to some specific mental illness I am not familiar with.
I appreciate your understanding Wiz. If I told the people around me, I couldn't expect that kind of response because they simply wouldn't understand how overwhelming the feeling and situation is.
>I suffer from severe mental illness (schizophrenia) and must constantly listen to these voices, commenting on my thoughts.
holymoly
I can't imagine how awful that must be, it sounds even worse than negative thoughts, because those are constantly running and talking through your head.
>Well I guess maybe you are ruined too with your fixations and physical responses.
So far, I've been managing it pretty well I just have to keep myself busy, distract myself, or set goals and stick to routines, and take care of my mental health by being mindful of what the hell I'm thinking or what stupid fantasies I'm having.
Ever since I started reading about treatments, routines, mental hygiene, and so on, I've realized later that there's no treatment for this other than what they offer for OCD but it's not the same, CBT tech and etc can be helful anyway.
It's just a matter of waiting for the brain to rewire itself maybe.

 No.307282

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>>307270
>my OCD ruined my life. now i just live in fear and take meds drink beer
I'm sorry to hear that pal
I read from a couple of people with limerence (and I mean this as a real obsessive disorder, not some romanticized bullshit similar to infatuation that Tumblr and social media succubi throw around like a meme) that many lost their limerence for their LO or even future LO after quitting alcohol or other addictions, I guess since it’s so similar to addiction, you try to kick both at the same time at the start that you start to know about your mind and tools.
still fucking hard although I think there are people who even with self-control and all that still end up in the same situation, I don't know why, things of brain or i don't know.
>meds
It didn't get to that point, but last year I had what I think were panic attacks a lot of the time at specific LO situations that I couldn't breathe and went through all kinds of horrible stuff, to the point where I'd end up shaking and had absolutely no control over myself. Basically, I'd just lie there frozen in bed because of a mix of nerves and anxiety it was incredibly exhausting.

 No.307312

i worry for your wizardhood if you're like this

 No.307320

The differentiation of a real disorder and Tumblr interpretation of the same thing feels very dishonest to me. I don't watch or read any Tumblr succubi so I don't know what this is all about but it feels like you just want more sympathy for the same motives.

 No.307321

>>307270
It doesn't have to be like that wizard. The key to freedom from ocd is to stop fighting.

 No.307329

>>307282
>>307321
its over for me. im in outpatient treatment 5 days a week and get drunk everyday after. im paranoid and have the worst obsessive thoughts. now its time for my 3rd busch light

 No.307330

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>>307205
>around her because your body starts releasing dopamine,

you wouldn't have that if you knew how to make yourself happy. it is you releasing the dopamine that is already in your body. if you knew how to make yourself happy, you wouldn't need the other person to be the key to unlock your happiness.

i also experienced this when i was younger because i was in school were happiness is 'treated' as a problem and you learn it is better not to be happy. this is the seed of corruption. by training you to be unhappy, you become an emotional puppet. regain your strengh man and unlock yourself through meditation.

 No.307331

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I can never enjoy a moment to its full extent. I can never relax. I can never truly feel at rest. I have Tourettic (also known as Just Right) OCD and Pure O OCD, which are the worst kinds to have IMO. CBT doesn't work for these types. And I would rather die than get on meds. I feel like Sissyphus, I am constantly performing labor, every moment of my life. Except unlike Sissyphus I can't crush my head with the boulder. I am my slave and my master. Not even drugs relieve me from it. Sometimes it gets to a point where wearing shoes feels like torture (without any trace of hyperbole) because I sometimes get a compulsion where I need to wriggle all of my toes five times. I inherited this disorder and hypothetically if I were able to get married and have kids I may very well choose not to because I don't want people to experience this burden.
This is hell. I am so exhausted. It started when I was a kid and just rapidly accelerated from there. I didn't know that I was experiencing the last peaceful moments of my life. I never knew peace again. There is no escape aside from death.

 No.307337

>>307273
>I appreciate your understanding Wiz
I don't think I understand OCD. Seems like certain compulsions literally take you over from time to time. Some normie with a healthy brain would probably believe something like this isn't possible or it is exagerated. Going through bizarre mental stuff myself I am inclined to believe OCD is real.
>I can't imagine how awful that must be
I hear a voice in my head which constantly comments on my thoughts, but isn't some kind of dream or fantasy. I have zero control what it says and can't turn it off. I can interact with it like it is a different person. I can clearly sense the difference between my thoughts and these voices. Only other schizophrenics seem to understand how this ruins your life.
>there's no treatment for this other than what they offer for OCD
I don't know what they offer for OCD but antipsychotics don't cure anything, they just tranquilize your entire nervous system.

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>>307205
I got three books around the topic of limerence in scientific studies and biography
(Remember this post is not about love but about a out of control brain malfuction based in some type of phenomena so these book are not romantizing anything around this maybe OCD behaviour)

>Smitten: Romantic obsession, the neuroscience of limerence, and how to make love last (International Edition) by Dr Tom Bellamy
Good book with scientific studies and methods to stop go to much insane nuts with limerence sensations or identify it before start, it dont remember but it maybe have some reference to next book guy studies. Very grounding and humanizing.

>Living with limerence: A guide for the smitten by Dr L
Same as the first book but have some have some cited histories of the forum of this dude (living with limerence) that some people write around anecdotes (a lot of times sound like us… why?) Still grounding to this shit experience.

>When Longing Becomes Your Lover: Breaking from Infatuation, Rejection, and Perfectionism to Find Authentic Love: A True Story of Overcoming Limerence by Amanda McCracken
I didnt started to read this but its a biography of a succubi journalist that dated 100 men and maintained her virginity into her late thirties (yeah kinda rare how it sound but sound common for some type of fucked up limerence behaviour even for a bitch succubi) but still fucked up experience, i dont have much interest to read it in reality bacause you know. Its like a self-help book based in some reviews, maybe a wizard can get something good from it checking how she was as kid not nurted or something.
I have more interest in a book made by a man experience than a succubi one, but well, you know what i talking (damn feminists)
There's another book about by Dorothy Tennov but i dont get it anywhere.
Maybe there's somewhere a book around man experience but even at reddit sub there's a lot of dudes writing fucked up experiences like mine here.

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>>307237
>If you want to hear a story, yesterday at college a succubi was nice to me and shared something (what? food) with me, and it gave me a bit of anxiety because of this, I realized she was being nice only because I’d been nice to her first. It’s stupid, but I tried to be polite and aloof at the same time, even though I don’t want to lose what little friendship I might be able to build things like this in some way can turn me paranoid in social situation sometimes.

Okay, I'm going to tell this wizz, maybe none of you will believe me because it's so random even for me.
>What's going wizz?
For various reasons (university works), I ended up talking to the succubus who offered me food that time. I didn't talk to her with any other intention than that of university group or works, never talked to she in a direct way and we just talk in group, today, for some reason, she asked me via phone how I was doing, and out of courtesy (i dont have any interest to talk)
I started talking to her direct to see what she was getting at or what want, at first i thought she want to talk something from university etc
The thing is, she started asking me questions like why she missed someone and couldn't stop thinking about “him” and other things.
>Here's were start the random things
I didn’t know what to say to her bacause the first thing to come to my head is this succubus was on drugs high or something to be so damn random to just talk to me.
I mean, at first I thought she had the wrong person contact or something, but since she didn't delete anything or say anything to me, I just went along with it, and that was that.
Could it be that she just wants attention from some random human or guys or succubi in her phone? Why me? Maybe she even sent the same message to others, although as she kept talking, it got really personal, and I don't think it was just some generic message to start to talk.
so i just started to be the most friendly and polite i can to let say help, I tried to explain everything I’d learned about attachment and limerence.
I think she was a little shocked or something, took her little time to respond. Then she started telling me about her own strange, almost obsessive-compulsive behaviors toward “him” and she told me she was tired of all of this.
I told her some of my stories around this shit
later she told me some of her stories around her him thing (this shit sound like LO to me)
Well, the thing is, we chatted for a little while longer, and in the end, she thanked me profusely for all the advice and left.
This is the most random experience I’ve had so far with a succubus.
I think it felt cathartic because I think I helped someone deal with this crap.
I don't know, I feel like I earned some human points or something like that.

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>>307331
>Sometimes it gets to a point where wearing shoes feels like torture (without any trace of hyperbole) because I sometimes get a compulsion where I need to wriggle all of my toes five times

That's tough, actually. I, too, have problems with wearing regular shoes so maybe I can be of help.

"Slip-ons" allow wriggling toes as is. You don't even have to modify slip-ons. The trivial thing is, slip-ons have nice top made out of thin fabric that is breathable- fabric like that allows toe wriggling alright (speaking from the experience here; I used to try a pair of slip-ons recently).


If you need some shoes or boots for colder weather, I can spill some craft ideas. I recently found out I can compensate out my knee pain once my shoes have good orthopedic qualities. Try getting a pair of slightly larger shoes; then, get a pair of "orthopedic" foam soles (5$ a pair) to compensate for the size difference. Modify the foam orthopedic sole if needed. The toes should get some room for wriggling then.

 No.308562

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You limerance object is probably a poor person who masks it well or something of that kind.

Normally, people wouldn't notice but you can sense there is something off about the person. Wears second-hand clothes, maybe? Smells with many people at once because her jacket has never been washed despite several people have tried it?

You probably may pull a "if her clothes did not give off that second hand punk vibe…" rumor to remove the limerance object out of your epsilon-area

 No.308568

OCD robbed my adolesence and ruined my life.

When I was an unborn baby, I was in the womb of a succubus who had a faulty heart tube due to childhood rheumatic fever, was nutritionally deficient, ate poorly, smoked and did drugs (but no alcohol surprisingly lol), and was under chronic stress. My prefrontal cortex was largely underdeveloped. On top of that, she was very abusive. Imagine being a mother, giving birth to this fragile baby after nine months and violently beating the baby because it didnt immediately act like an adult. Yeah.

As a result, my brain is permanently hardwired to be mentally ill and retarded. I tried my best to exist, but its very difficult. Killing myself sounds really nice these days, but the pain of living gets so overwhelming that moving around is painful, let alone making the effort to die. Why does dying have to be so effortful? I dunno.

Im a third worlder btw. All third worlders unite!

 No.308569

>>307330
>i also experienced this when i was younger because i was in school were happiness is 'treated' as a problem and you learn it is better not to be happy.

nigga what kinda school did you go to??? a russian school???

every school everywhere on the planet forces positivity on everyone, they'd never tell you to be unhappy

 No.308570

>>308552
Humans point?

Yes. You totally earned a good chunk of wizard's human-ness points for helping a succubus with her crap using the /wiz/dom you have accumulated throughout years. Good job, really



Congratulations!

 No.308581

>>308569
СМЕХ БЕЗ ПРИЧИНЫ ПРИЗНАК ДУРАЧИНЫ


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