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 No.307315

When I was young I used to indulge in escapism by imagining a new life where everything goes right and I have no problems, but now when I think of it I simply see nothing. There is no possible path for things to go right, every single case and scenario would bring me to suffer.

I guess it's because I became more experienced and understood that everything has a counter-effect and that I was simply focusing on the things that happened to me. For example, I have very protective, obsessed and generally loser (in the normie sense) parents who were watching my every move and spoil me because to them I was the only thing that was validating their need to have a meaning. But even if I had paremts who let me do whatever I wanted, it still wouldn't have fixed my inner problems and all the change would have been swapping the surface problems for others.

At this point it's like a puzzle, trying to connect all the pieces in a way that everything would go smoothly. But even if I give myself endless liberty, like being born a billionaire with perfect health, I still can't solve it. In fact, I have come to the point of trying to change physical laws to see if it could work (not having to eat/sleep etc.) and I still can't do it. Existence is pain and pain is existence, it looks like. Truly, the perfect life is to never be born.

What do you guys think? Do you have an idea of a good life you could have been living if you rolled the dice the right way at birth?

 No.307323

>Do you have an idea of a good life you could have been living if you rolled the dice the right way at birth?
Being born in a body that cannot be tortured would be a good life, this is something impossible for earthlings, you would require to be like a light orb.

 No.307324

I don't know. I have been thinking there is something in those anime where an underdog idol or sports team reach the show climax of surpassing expectations and achieving their dreams. There is a catharsis in there even if the viewers don't care about idols, sports, revenge or whatever macguffin the show is about. Come to think of it, all catharsis stories are the same. It's people achieving things they want. Maybe it's really that simple. Feeling good is just wanting something and then getting it with perhaps some reasonable challenges overcome.

 No.307325

>>307315
I think it's a sign that you must move on in your life and take some responsabilities.

 No.307326

I think I played that game, but for whatever reason, I never thought about how external circumstances could be different, it was always me that was different. My particular fantasy was, and perhaps still is, one where I was completely undisturbed by the things happening around me, endlessly competent, calm, at peace. Rather than imagining myself as being accepted by others, I always imagined a state where I could simply not care and never feel shame or envy. Rather than having endless amount of money, I always imagined living a frugal life where I can escape the rat race. Rather than a sexy gf, I wanted to be a voluntary celibate that has no such needs.

 No.307336

You can't visualize happiness because you aren't happy, just like a blind person can't visualize sight

 No.307342

I guess reaching some kind of state where you have real freedom. Health allows you to use your body without troubles. Money gives freedom from basic things like shelter, being able to neet, welfare dependency and so on. Deciding what you think is real after a lot of intellectual activities gives you a certain insight in how this world works which gives a certain freedom.
Basically a happy life for me would be where I could just do what I want. (within reasonable limits ofcourse)
Anything less and i'd rather hang myself (which I actually plan on doing).

 No.307462

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>>307315
Would you consider this to be a good life?

 No.307465

>>307462
this wouldn't work. life of infinite pleasure isn't possible by design. no amount of technology will ever release you from this demiurge's torture cellar.

 No.307473

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>>307465
>life of infinite pleasure isn't possible
Read The Hedonistic Imperative. Suffering is a chemical reaction in your brain that evolution created.

 No.307481

>>307473
>Suffering is a chemical reaction in your brain that evolution created.
and demiurge designed your brain so that it's impossible to avoid suffering. if you avoid it long enough then you will simply go insane or die of heart attack when it finally comes. demiurge will just laugh his lungs out

 No.307536

>>307315
I don't think that is possible in the body we inhabit.
Made a similar thread asking what good parents/family would even look like too. I just don't know what I'd want. I know what is wrong and what is bad.
So less bad? No bad?
Maybe.

The biggest issue is that any real image of a good life does not include me.
If it does not include me then why even bother with a hypothetical?
All the events that happened shaped me and my genetics (and later accumulated experience) determined my reactions to them.
So given that, any "good life" would not include me.

>>307326
I've been trying to figure out a way to reach this too. It was prompted by another wizards post in some thread about us needing to embrace the "it's already over, you aren't part of the race anyways, just relax" mentality.
Again I'm paraphrasing from memory.
>endlessly competent, calm
For this all competence is sadly needed as you say. I've noted that a lot of the anxiety that has gone unnoticed by me, but not by my body is due to this.
I don't feel like I had any mastery over anything so if a problem might pop up, I knew I was unequipped to handle them.
Unfortunately a lot of things in this world can not be done solo (or I'm simply not able..), so I'm trying to focus more on the acceptance part as well.
How is it going for you?

 No.308094

>>307315
Something like the life of Hirayama from the movie Perfect Days. Having an easy job where you don't need to interact with people too much, your own place and simple solitary hobbies like gaming or reading. Going for walks in nature in your free time and getting enough rest. You will never be able to avoid suffering in some way, that's just life unfortunately.
For me such a life isn't possible since those low-stress, solitary type jobs have been nearly extinct with the advent of automation and cheap tech. And even if I had one, it wouldn't be enough to cover cost of living here anyways. I think this particular fantasy is irreconcilable with the economic realities that the elites have imposed upon us.

 No.308167

The good life is the life without depression. If you've been depressed at least a few times in your life for a long time. Like suicidal depressed. Then your life is tainted. True happeniness is impossible for you.
Having all those things that people strive their whole lives for? You will never get the same satisifaction that others will get. You will always be back to depression no matter what.
I see a lot of people here that hate their station in life and I want to make it clear that if you aren't happy where you are at, you will never be truly happy. Not saying that you should try to be happy with what you got. Im saying it's over, tainted, ruined.
At least this has been my experience despite my many successes.

 No.308168

>>308167
>True happeniness is impossible for you.
> ou will never get the same satisifaction that others will get.
>You will always be back to depression no matter what.
>if you aren't happy where you are at, you will never be truly happy.
>Im saying it's over, tainted, ruined.
What a horrible collection of lies to tell the young men here. Have you considered suicide? PLease do. There's a thread with information how.
>At least this has been my experience despite my many successes.
When you go outside, your scrotum will be stung by a bee. No matter how many layers of clothes you put on, or where you live in the world, a bee with sting your balls. There is no way you will not have swollen stung gonads. How do I know? Because that's what happened to me, so naturally it's impossible for it to not happen to you. Retard!

 No.308171

>>308168
it’s clearly a post deliberately crafted with the intention to maximize hopelessness and anguish
but since it wasn’t done too skillfully, it ended up coming out too forced and artificial

 No.308172

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>>308171
>the intention to maximize hopelessness and anguish

 No.308173

>>308167
this is generally true about most things in life. kids really overestimate their ability to recover. people like >>308168 are people who have never had any real problems in life. you break something once and you never recover. this is why it's imperative that avoiding being broken is one of the most important things in life, but not many are lucky enough. at least you can get used to the suffering after a while

 No.308178

>>307462
I did think of this scenario when I was a kid, it's how I'd imagine 'society' would function in the far future. I find the idea deeply unapealling and haven't ever been able to come up with a reason as to why, except it's 'unnatural' which is just a cope for not having any reason.

 No.308179

Fed and warm really. Internet opened my eyes: between war, total poverty and homelessness I see how bad it is for billions of people so sitting in front of a computer with a coffee in hand means I've "made it" I guess.

 No.308184

>>308179
How I spend all of my free time. The best food and drinks I can get, and sit in front of the PC. If I had more time I would start watching entire series, I remember I did that when I was first out of highschool: Watched every cartoon in actual order and then moved to anime before I was forced to get a job



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