The type of people who complain about having to work for low wages and long hours to pay for dogshit food and rent rat infested apartments are the same type of people that would be be first to get enslaved in the medieval era. The average person only needs to feed clothe and shelter themselves and if they're too stupid to address those priorities first so they can have a blanket of security if money gets dire then it's no surprise as to why millennials and zoomers advocate for communism while actual employers view their staff as low iq disposable shitheads that literally couldn't feed themselves without needing their precious salaries every week to month while people who live independently in developing nations could use that money far more usefully towards aiding those around them, hate paying for food then grow your own, hate paying every month for an apartment go buy a small patch of land and build shelter or fuck just buy a trailer, hate buying clothes then repurpose old clothes or ffs make your own. My god I despise poor people.
Why is this on dep? OP is clearly a young and naive, blissfully sheltered guy with dad footing all the bills and not a clue how the world is out there. That as far from dep as any wiz can get.
>>234915 Go get a job then, and then find out you're the "weird guy" that no one likes, and you'll be just as depressed as before but have to spend the majority of your time doing something you hate around people you hate instead of doing whatever you want alone.
>>234915 As someone who’s had a job before I disagree. >>234917 this guy is correct. You feel even worse because you go out in public but it feels like a tv show on mute. I’d rather sit in my room and read or shitpost than have a job. Society is a horror
>>234909 > hate paying every month for an apartment go buy a small patch of land and build shelter I am fairly certain that anywhere but the turd world it is very pricey to buy land and build a home. OP are you rich from hard work or something you come off as if you made it and hate poor people but I have aways been poor and I am a NEET so what gives.
>>234955 Not only is it very costly to buy land (especially land with potential to grow food and with woods for heat/building) and build something on it, but imagine how much moreso it would be if all the masses of poor took this advice and attempted it at same time, skyrocketing demand. The whole point of wage-slavery is to deny the masses the possibility of self-sufficiency so they're forced to wage-slave to live. If it were easy to escape it wouldn't work.
>>234911 OP is trying to start a economic and political discussion something that always leads to divisiveness in the comment section. In either case, you are correct, this ain't the correct forum for it.
>>234955 1 acre of land in america is $3000, the average person needs 1.16 acres of land to survive or even less ultimately meaning one can have nearly 4000m of space for less than what a minimum wage provides annually or a car. STFU
>just grow your own food >just build your own house >just sew your own clothes Are you stupid or something? Life isn't like some MMO, you don't 'just' do any of these things, because they take skills to do. You work a job which is related to your most proficient skill so that you can make money to buy products from people with other skills in areas you don't have. Like from people who know how to raise animals and grow crops, or from people who know how to sew and manufacture clothes that won't make you look like a raggy hobo. You will never be able to just do literally everything.
>>234909 wageslaves are fucking despicable. if you do what you are told to do at any point in your life you are doing it wrong. playing by the rules is how you end up as another cog in the machine, it is how you allow yourself to be used. it always cracks me up seeing dumb college kids majoring in STEM seething at losing their job to pajeet when they were told if they did STEM theyre guaranteed a 6 figuere starting job, or the single moms that majored in interpretive dancing or art history because they were told to go to college and now work as a barista and are 200k in debt.
as for me, i live in all inclusive low income commieblocks and havent gone outside in months. i am completly free, a master of myself. nobody has any control or sway over me. if i want to do something i do it, and nobody can tell me not to. im not just another cog in the machine. get fucked wagies
Fuck you all wizzies, you say that you hate wgeslaves as if we had a choice, trust me when I say that no one works because they want, we work because we have no other choice, not everyone is lucky enough to have daddy government pay for your shit, if I don't work I either starve or end up on the streets, that's it, working is still better than those.
The rules say that you can' attack the NEET lifestyle, but fuck you, I don't hate you because you're NEET's I hate you because while being in a priveleged position that not everyone can achieve you still go out of your way to attack people like me.
You kids wouldn't survive 2 months without your NEETbux, and since you don't have any skills to make money you would probably end up roping.
>>234987 you aren't wrong, your post probably gonna be removed but i don't hate neets but they should chill with hating on wagecucks, theres lives are miserable enough and don't have the privilege of using government money
>>234993 wagecucks that do it out of necessity are that which is neither good nor bad, but ONLY if it is out of pure necessity. wagecucks that do it because they like it or do it so they can have some cash to blow on anything other than crippling addictions are fucking cringe and honestly just plain stupid
>>234909 >The type of people who complain about having to work for low wages and long hours to pay for dogshit food and rent rat infested apartments are the same type of people that would be be first to get enslaved in the medieval era. Tell us how NEETs fared then
>>234995 NEETs were the only ones that escaped the rat race because they didnt do as they were told. wagies were too scared to go off on their own because their feudal lords and the clergy kept them on such a tight psychological leash they preferred actual slavery to freedom, while NEET chads were doing things like being hermits or colonising the new world
>>234998 >>235000 >>235001 there wasn't joint stock corporations or a capitalist system in the middle ages where guys were educated to be gainfully employed in a specialized career. i mean there were the guilds and trade and shit but the average people were serfs and the labor system blurred the lines of what can be considered employed. there wasn't a welfare system and no computers in air conditioned rooms so unless you came from a rich family, you needed to have some outdoors skills for sustenance, if you think that makes you self employed then the only NEETS then would be from rich families so to answer the question NEETS back then were well off.
and not all colonists were paid, early colonisation was very decentralized. there were lots of soldiers of fortune who werent on the payroll but joined expeditions for the spoils which again is debatable whether those agents can really be considered employed
>>234987 >You kids wouldn't survive 2 months without your NEETbux, and since you don't have any skills to make money you would probably end up roping. I ain't denying it, guess some minimum wage worker is gonna have to clean up my corpse from your taxes. What are you gonna do about it wagecuck?
>>235010 Everyone who has posted on any english speaking imageboard has been to 4chan before. It was the progenitor of a vast majority of these imageboards (most of which I doubt you know of) of fucking course I've posted on 4chan. I haven't in a good several years, and the last time was some /jp/ translation thread.
>>235004 yes youd have to work to sustain yourself but i would argue it is not the same as the "employment" used in the NEET definition, which was coined in a capitalist world, because there is no wage labor and you are not creating value for anyone. in contrast, people typically defined as "self employed" usually run a business, do freelance work in service of others, and so on.
>>235015 Fuck you I've been here probably more than time you, also virgins and social outcasts is not the same as NEET's you retard.
It's amazing how some people say that "being a wizard is not the same as being a loser lol" when trying to improvebruh and later they suddenly that wizchan is a site for virgins and social outcasts when it fits their retarded argument.
>>234909 The only people in my area that advocate communism are rich kids that go to one of the multiple universities here who've never suffered or worked a hard day in their life.
All the really poor people espouse libertarianism, anarchism, national socialism, or fascism. The anarchist ones come in two flavors: just want everything to burn down because they can only see opportunities for themselves in a mad max style world that has destroyed the previous power structures so they go around vandalizing and accelerating everything OR the other variety is just the type that doesn't care about anything and just likes to fuck everything up for fun. The libertarians come in three varieties; the ones that want libertarianism because they can make a big profit under that system, the ones that are closet national socialists and want admire founding fathers, and the degenerates that want to be able to do various vices without government getting involved (drugs, loli, whatever). The national socialists and fascists I won't bother to explain, they just are reacting to the constant degeneracy and racial replacement being forced on them.
>>234957 >> >>234957 >>>234955 >if all the masses of poor took this advice and attempted it at same time, skyrocketing demand. The whole point of wage-slavery is to deny the masses the possibility of self-sufficiency so they're forced to wage-slave to live. Your whole point here is incredibly accurate
>>235027 >It's amazing how some people say that "being a wizard is not the same as being a loser lol" when trying to improvebruh and later they suddenly that wizchan is a site for virgins and social outcasts when it fits their retarded argument. Those are almost certainly different people you dumbass.
wageslavery is the ultimate cuckoldry. like i cant imagine waking up at 6 in the morning, driving an hour to your job and an hour back, working your ass off, and coping with the anxieties and insecurities of a constantly changing capitalist machine just so schlomo shekelstein can make some money. i mean think about it for a second. you go through all that just so somebody else can make money. if that isnt cuckoldry i dont know what is.
>Person from a privileged position shits on the unprivileged for their circumstances and goes as far to recommend some shit that is pretty likely they wouldn't try themselves. OP if you ever feel mad at normals please remember you just exhibited the same behavior with this thread.
>>235123 honestly poor people and wageslaves deserve it. im a secular humanist and i believe people that are successful had to work hard to get where they are, and apply their energies in intelligent and creative ways. especially in the year 2021 if you are a wageslave and youve been working hard and you aren't rich, you are a retard. there are so many opportunities to succeed in todays world if you are willing and able to adapt to change and can be assertive. i am a NEET but my dad is pretty wealthy and he works with a guy that literally refuses to talk face to face with anyone and has a secretary succubus talk for him. that is literally the most wizardly thing ever. and people put up with it because he is good at what he does.
I have no sympathy for the wage slave. They are at least accepted by society due to the fact that someone was willing to hire them instead of getting laughed at or told to go back to their mom's basement. It amuses me when they post here, like they even belong here at all. Plus if you work then you're much more likely to have defiled yourself with a succubus at some point.
>>234948 As someone who has had a job, I disagree completely. In my opinion, the correct way to build yourself is to build a portfolio, and then work and not work intermittently. It's something I'll be trying to do whenever I'm done with uni, but I'm not sure I'll be able to in this day and age because of how few jobs there are.
>>234909 I know it sucks Anon and I'm all for beating the system and being a NEET. But not everybody has the ability to do so. I recommend since you know now to find a way to be a NEET 24/7. Just try to figure out something long term so you won't have to worry about being a wageslave in the future.
>>234915 I disagree having no job is great at least for me. I just wish I had money and could stay home 24/7 I love the NEET lifestyle and talking to people online and posting on image boards and playing Doom brings me happiness. I wish you the best luck
>>235016 Serfs had to give away most of their profits to their lord, they were practically slaves in a more direct way than wagies. Though, even though they lived in filth and had to work more than the average wageslave for less, they had fresh organic food and tight knit actual communities instead of alienated commieblock anonymity.
>>235211 >it's another "crab reveals himself as a failed normalfag crab" episode You wish you were "accepted by society" but then look down on people who might have the ability to lose their virginity, while implying that it's impossible to be voluntarily celibate. This is not wizardly at all. My rejection of society and succubi is a choice, you're just a crab by circumstance.
>>234909 Not all wageslaves are wageslaves by choice. You think I WANT to get up at 5:45 every day? You think I don't want to be at home drunk watching anime or building my models? Well, not everyone has a super family who will support them. Not everyone was born into a happy rich family, I spent a month homeless and this is better than that. > hate paying for food then grow your own, hate paying every month for an apartment go buy a small patch of land and build shelter or fuck just buy a trailer, hate buying clothes then repurpose old clothes or ffs make your own A patch of land big enough to grow food on will cost more than I'm able to save in 20 years. This is your mind on being born into a rich family. Growing food isn't as easy as you think, I have a small garden with some veggies but to grow enough to live on I would need a whole lot more ground. This is a bait post but still, fuck you. Build shelter? And get thrown out when the government finds it or stabbed to death by a hobo? How will you charge your phone there? You're either a wizkid or have a family supporting you. Not that you'd understand this, you have your idea of farming for food from fucking minecraft.
>>237063 >idea of farming from minecraft This made me laugh because it’s so accurate. I grew up on a farm and it’s way more involved than just planting some crops in a random patch of land. It’s also less consistent than you would think. The idea that you could survive with a “farm” of one acre of random land in the middle of nowhere is straight out of a video game. Not to mention even if you did somehow have a larger plot of land and the proper equipment to farm you would need to turn over a profit to pay property taxes. I assume OP is just trolling though, unless he is actually underaged.
>>237071 Anime is the most normalfag thing ever, sure. The japanese are obssessed with sex, little succubi, and an idealized version of friendship that's like magic. There exists good anime that isn't dumb though
>>237071 >Anime and model building isn't nerdy, it's just dumb and a waste of time You're on wizchan.org and complaining about people wasting their time. >plenty of normalfags do it Anime sure, it's a way to kill time and I rewatch the same old series. What's next, you're gonna start complaining that there are virgins on this board? >>237077 >complains about people wasting their time >calls others' hobbies a waste of time while arguing and starting fights on a forum for 30 year old virgins. Yeah totally, real truewiz right here. The fact that this obvious bait thread is still up speaks to the absolute state of wizchan
>>237108 Yes, you do. You can't just walk off the street and get a job somewhere without having social connections first. I'm actually glad this thread exists. It exposes the normalfags that lurk among us. We need to shun them from our space and send them back to 4cancer.
>>237114 You can just walk up to a place and ask to get hired you know maybe not walmart but smaller places still do the boomer handshake stuff which actually is good advice.
You can just apply for jobs online you doofus do you think everyone who gets a job using online applications personally knows whoever the fuck hires them? what a delusional world you live in and just so you know I am much more of a loser than you the very fact you even need to work shows you are not on disability money for being a super wizzie unless you are turd wordler in which case sorry.
>>237115 Actually I do get neetbux for being autistic, but I was trying to prove a point. If you really believe that the job market is nothing more than a game of charisma and other blatant normalfaggotry, then you're wrong. Shaking other people's hands is an example of this. It's a normalfag thing to do. Nobody will hire an autistic wizard like me, and it's the truth. It makes me more of a wizard than 99% of the posters here, including you.
>>237114 I've working for over a year for people that don't even know my face, they just send me stuff and I do it. You just sound like a moron who tried to get a job, failed and now pretend you didn't because you're so wizardly
Being a NEET is god-tier and anyone who has been for any anount of time worth a damn knows that we need to support our wageslave bros out there. Shit's hard out there man, we all need a release valve. This thread shoulda been deleted kek. Sage for low quality post
The fact that this thread is still up almost 2 months later is an encapsulation of wizchan 2021. It is such obvious bait >hate paying for food then grow your own In the city? On my balcony I can grow only minor things like garlic and spices and 1 bag of potatoes which hardly goes enough to live of. >hate paying every month for an apartment go buy a small patch of land and build shelter or fuck just buy a trailer. Any piece of land big enough to live off completely, as there are no jobs in the countryside, costs more than I can afford to save up in many many years. Also you need to pay property taxes so you still need a job to pay for those massive fucking taxes each year. >hate buying clothes then repurpose old clothes Only sound advice and I think literally everyone whos not a richfag here does that already without even thinking about it. I know he does not actually think these things but some people hold similar beliefs so I still wrote it out, really I'm just mad at the state of the chan where this sort of thing almost seems like it could fit in. In case he responds surely it will only be an insult, mark my words.