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What do you do when someone asks you (e.g., your mother), "When are you going to have children, anon?" Have you ever wanted to have kids? Why? Have you ever thought about how fucked up your life would be right now if you had kids? About how fucked up your kids would be?
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Right now they might not report on it (although I kind of dont believe it, I always see stories of random college kids killing themselves a lot of times, maybe their parents gave them permission) but in the future they might report any death and show it in the face of everyone which would be used to prove someone's agenda (like what >>178527 said, you'll be part of the statistic)


Some healthy people get Alzheimers when they reach 80. Also I never said you have to have kids but out of all the arguments natalists say "YOU'LLL REGRET IT!!/YOU'RE GOING AGAINST GOD/EBOLUTION!!!/etc" it's the least stupidest since if you only care about yourself you might think about having kids so you dont get beaten at an elderly home (although you'll most likely still get beaten in an elderly home if you just have kids for that sole reason and not make sure you and your partner have good genetics and social upbringing)


I'm an ugly crab. So, nobody asks me about that. But I asked my mother why she gave birth to me and she didn't answer me.


not even bait, most antinatalists on youtube are females


Never hear anyone actually make such a argument so I don't think so.

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What are your favourite wizchan threads of all time?
Link to the the archive/cached page of them
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somehow had a screencap saved


Pretty sure this was magicchan. Still a good thread nonetheless.


Magicchan didn't exist then, and it never reached near 90k posts. This is old v9k


i always thought this was 4chan


the "School" thread

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Have you embraced solitude and how did you come about this choice if it was one and what is your story do you think your childhood lead to you being ok with being alone?

As a child my parents were split up a common theme for wizards but I consider some aspects of my childhood to be influential to my preference for isolation as an adult.
I lived with my mother full time as a child until the age of 7 and for various reasons my mother was never home so I was by myself and forbidden to leave the room I lived in.
When I started to live with my father nothing much changed except as he was sick he never got out of bed and was mostly sleeping and we lived in relative isolation away from others so I had the outdoors to explore as a child.
During schooling I was bullied a lot and was always acting up so was in detention every single day for lunch in my elementary school and this meant no other children were allowed to come near me or they would be in trouble I spent my time thinking alone.
I was also not allowed to have any friends as a child if a playmate took a liking to me when I was older my mother would tell me that not to trust the other child or make fun of them and say "wizzie you do not want to be around this child he is a loser" despite me being the biggest outcast. Of note is abuse by my parents in addition to my peers I think that played a part as well.

It is no surprise to myself that when I left schooling I withdrew from all social contact and shut myself away for numerous years and counting but I cannot help but feel that my entire younger days were preparing me to be alone because I do not feel lonely at all.
I used to enjoy talking online to some people from image boards on skype etc but I have now fully realized that there is no point in me trying to make friends with others online because it wont happen even if I wish I could I simply cannot make a friendship as if I never learnt to.
I feel more content now that I do not even bother trying to talk to others even when bored of my hobbies.

What about you wizards also sorry for the blog posting but I want to know if anyone else is similar to me. If psycho babble means anything one of my "mental disorders" is supposedly schizoid.
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*And it seems you want to force your classmates to socialize with you


*Final point is they're your "class"mates because they're forced to be in the same class with you not necessarily real friends. Let them go.


I had a psycho mom who would emotionally unload on me about the various men she'd sleep with and how she was trying to find me a father for basically as long as I could remember, but I remember it being the most burdensome around 5 years old. I remember finding my moms sex toys, her having dick shaped candles for love and fertility spells. I have siblings by different fathers that she tried to rope commitment from men with. She claims to love us all dearly, and she has spent her life and her every effort on "us" but she's delusional and stupid to think it was ever helpful, and being the first born and the oldest, she had us like 8 years apart, I got the brunt of it. Anyway she managed to secure her desired father figure by the time I was 11, at that point I was already mentally and emotionally independent out of necessity, I never called him dad, I told them to stay married for my little bros sake even though they were always fighting over money, and she was still unloading on me asking a 12-13 year old about if she should divorce. I was conflicted with her husband over his treatment of my brother, his kid. That lasted for about 3 years, each day seemingly pushing me further into isolation. I was 14 when I fought him and he kicked me out of their house, allowing me to return if I ever apologized, I never did but now we have an odd tolerate one another non relationship. Anyway I dropped out of highschool and got my ged asap, and then neeted off and on, neet at the moment as well for the last 10 years. None of that stuff really bothers me, it left me indifferent to just about everything and anything. It allows me to be neutral and analytical, and has left me wanting to keep my distance and not grow too close to anyone. I had been in 5 different elementary schools by the time I got to middle school because all the times mom decided to move for a fresh start


I'd say childhood abuse and early adult mental illness from unfortunate genes. Nature and nurture made me a loner wizard. Medication has helped with my anxiety symptoms though and having no anxiety gradually changes behavior too.


I really think where the school is located might have something to do with the way the ((curriculum)) is determined. For example, I grew up in a blue collar factory/military town on the outskirts of a major city. As a result I'd imagine in elementary school they were brainwashing us to enter one of those fields. I wasn't aggressive, preferred to be indoors, and did not follow instructions well. Naturally I was fucked from the get go.

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Were you born unattractive or are you just unattractive because of lack of effort?

I realized recently that my base body is actually apparently attractive. I am 6" and have broad shoulders and a normal looking face.

I have really bad posture, no effort self-haircut, oversized t-shirt + jeans, low muscle, outdated glasses, ec. that makes me ugly.

I don't really care enough to try to be attractive at this point, but it's just something I never really thought about. I guess I should consider myself lucky. I'm curious about others wizards. Are you genetically unattractive?
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I can't go near to any public pool with my man tiddies :/


uninhibited normalshits don't understand what is like to be self conscious or have anxiety.


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I used to be obese and was godlike in every sport I practiced. My parents made me practice everything from hapkido and soccer to fencing and horse riding, I was usually the best and stole all the medals in events. The secret to physical and mental energy is eating a lot of good food when you~re young. Youll find many intelligent people are chubbies too.


im the opposite, i've put in great effort all my life but im just genetic trash. in every category im under average.


fat people are simply delusional

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Do you think wizards are more suited to living in a medium/big city or the countryside?
I was more of a country guy but recently I began to wonder if living in a city wouldn't be better and would like to hear your opinion
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I understand. There's no escape but cope.


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I moved out of a very small country town a couple of years ago to move to the big city for work. Now I'm trying very hard to get back out of the city and into the country again. I'd rather work the counter in a gas station in the country than get paid good money to live in this hellhole. At this very moment, 10:06 at night I can hear some asshole revving his car up for no reason. Maybe it's one of the kids who races sportscars every Saturday night 100 feet from the house I rent


i live rurally but my next door neighbor is a car fixing guy and there is engine noises and revving and banging and welding nonstop

he sounds like a swamp monster and always has a million relatives over hooting and hollering

add in their dogs, and my other neighbors dogs, which both bark at anything all day and the coyotes screeching and the redneck kids on loud ass dirtbikes

jesua christ


The less people around you the better.


Used to live near a "unofficial gun range" for a few months in the country.

Being dead serious it reminded me of growing up in the inner city in the 90s.
Like it was actually nostalgic and shit heating gunshots.

Now I live in a small town where people actually mind their own business, which is really nice both personally and as a wizard who enjoys solitude.

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I'm facing a dilemma whether to live an easy, comfortable life or a harder, perhaps more worthwhile one. I understand that I'm privileged to even be faced with such a problem and most people on this site have it worse than me. If you're in a bad situation and struggling to make ends meet this post may be annoying to you, you have been warned.

I remember when I was at university and was struggling socially so bad. All I wanted is to stay home, with my cats, with a nice garden, read books, watch TV, sit in the garden, go cycling. I can have that now. I could rent a house in the suburbs or in the countryside. I could have a comfy life, without any conflicts, internal or external. Without any aggressive, violent people bothering me. I envision myself living life on easy mode: masturbating every day, drinking milk with cocoa, baking cookies, playing with cats I would adopt, playing video games, reading books, doing some work whenever I feel like it. It's a life I always dreamed of as a child - I was forced to train a sport competitively, go on camps where I suffered. I just wanted something "easy" and "nice".
I spend very little money and have gained a good reputation as a programmer + have made some programs that give me passive income + made some investments. That's why I would be able to have this. I also understand that I'm having a better life than most throughout human history.

There is beauty in struggling though, in overcoming your childhood, your fucked-up upbringing, there is beauty to be found in a chilly morning walk at 4AM when everyone's asleep and you are exploring the forest or meadow (pic related).
I know I was not allowed to develop fully by my domineering, perverse, depressed mother. And I've been struggling to psychologically get out of her influence, and I have had some successes. I moved out of my parents' house (using money from another family member) and don't stay in touch with them, and my personality changed over time - I'm not so afraid of people anymore.
I searched for a therapist, went to 6 in the last 3 years and recently found one who's really smart and actually cares. I have little relation to myself, little knowledge of how I feel, what I want and need. I have always had to ignore my feelings, my pain. The other kids in school were impressed that when they did something to me like twisting my arms, I didn't show any pain.

Live in a safe, comfortable fantasy land, or confront myself with thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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I would go for comfy. I had desires about material or 'social' things (before you stone me, it was playing paintball - but I played a couple times and concluded people are asshats, so what I desired was impossible, perhaps only if I cloned myself or ran a field myself and established rules and who gets to play) but they're all fleeting and as I grow older, I see simpler, more nature oriented things, while they don't always seem flashy, have a better effect on me than being surrounded by stimuli and people.

At some point you need to treat your mind like your body - you have to be careful with stimuli, just like you are with food, and you have to exercise it and avoid straining it in stupid ways. My grandparents basically live on a TV drip (pardon my shitty joke), they wouldn't go a day, perhaps not even half of it without watching TV, and boy oh boy does the current TV cater to plebs. The effect of hammering this filth into their heads for decades is dementia and anger issues, basically it's pitiful how they designed their own torture devices.

Comfort is good. Being able to sleep and eat in peace is great. Being able to be selective about what you want to do and watch is great. Looking inwards is more beneficial to me than looking outside now.


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I've been suffering from the same dilemma. In fact, it's something that I've mulled over for so long, I've wasted a significant portion of my life in the meantime.

When I was in highschool, the drudgery and rigamarole of being a wagecuck, or getting an education and then being a wagecuck who made more money, just sounded so soulless and unfulfilling to me. I decided I was going to join the military, and thought it would be an interesting experience and maybe give me some meaning, since the military still seemed like a relatively traditional institution at that point. Well, right out of the gate, I started talking to some former soldiers who were telling me the wars were winding down, and the only way to see any action was to go special operations, which drastically upped the physical requirements I'd need to meet.

In the course of training (and, later, recovering from an injury), I had my family pulling me in the direction of college, which I started half-assedly attending, and as the years went by, I started growing more disillusioned with the idea of joining. It became harder and harder to commit to hardcore physical training, and yet, I still couldn't stomach the idea of living a comfortable, quiet life (even though I was sure I could achieve it if I wanted) and told myself that the military was still my best option and I'd join in the next year. Now, 8 years later, I have virtually no more interest in the military, but still have the same feelings I did before. At this point, the only thing driving me to still join is sunken costs. I wish that when I was younger, I had considered my options more rather than getting such tunnel vision on one thing, but, alas.


Its all so vague and abstract. Maybe be more specific on what your plans for a comfy vs worthwhile life are.


Comfy easily. Sadly, I have not figured out how to obtain and sustain comfy without dipping my toe into the river of worthwhile.


Joining the military now is absolutely pointless. I'd imagine it was better 8 years ago, but now there's no reason to join other than to get the bennies. I almost did it too, but then I started watching recent boot camp videos, and realized that nearly half of the recruits are succubi, and as such everything is dumbed down to accommodate them. And I have seen many anons say that now it's more sitting through powerpoints about bullshit than doing actual training, and everyone is so incompetent that the training is no fun anyway. And of course there's no action to be had for everyone but the most elite of SF.

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Think about it. Historically and in other cultures you can find places where wizards were either ignored or even revered, like priests, monks or even normal people who took s celibacy vote like Tesla or Newton. Nowaday even a genius would be shitted on by groids if it became public he's a wizard. Or may produxe sex obsessed answers by succubi saying they want to make him lose his mana if he was handsome enough. Seems like virginity obsession was never so high, not even in traditional societies with arranged marriage

What do you think?
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> despite 0 legal and political force.
You have no idea. The politicians have been fucking with the internet for decades, they are certainly not without blame.


>Is amazing how bad the internet and video games has become despite 0 legal and political force.

So the jews and their puppet politicians that force gays, trannies,feminists and social media degeneracy are not to blame?

Face it, internet and videogames started becoming shit the second normies got in, back in 1999 only the technically literate would go on the internet, everyone had at least a 100 IQ back then and there were no niggers or succubi, in fact you may remember that one of the old rules was "there are no succubi on the internet" the whores invaded the internet when social media started being a thing because they wanted to whore themselves on FB and OF later.


Perhaps something like MESHNET will be our savior after all. Quality will be dependent on users which at this point will be in large part shit but the good will be free and unmolested.


we could make a wizard scuttlebutt


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Maybe one could get funding for a meshnet by arguing that some people would even move to a region with an especially desirable meshnet.


I noticed that normies dont like to talk about some topics like conspiracy theories like NWO UFOS 9/11 its like their brain reject every thing that is controversial
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been into ufos and the paranormal since i was a kid, lately the pentagon has been releasing lots of vids about ufos some say it might lead to full on disclosure


They'd have to mistrust things that fill the role of religion to talk about conspiracy theories.
Shit like science, medicine, billionaires.


1. The UFO leaks are just a ruse to get people to look at the sky so the government can do shady stuff on the ground. Robot dogs, tiny worms in discarded masks, shoes designed in the image of Satan, etc.

2. "These scary sky invaders wouldn't be here if A: it wasn't so warm / B: They couldn't see us clearly / C: There was a toxic shield in our stratosphere… Plot to build support for Gate's sky darkening tactic (operation Blue Sky Of Death)

3. Will come out as being a "consumer drone prank" to fuel anti aircraft laws which will make it harder for people to observe 5g towers, map power grids, and record interesting family home video via UAV


I dont know why you UFO believers think UFO's are real if the pentagon is realising information. If the government say a conspiracy is real then it isnt, they probably are testing military aircraft or doing a project blue beam scenario to control the masses. Life is boring and there wont be any aliens trying to kill all of humanity any time soon


yea theres no aliens. you guys are believing in fantasy if you think UFOS are coming.

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Are ugly people the most opressed group in the world? No one chose to be ugly yet people will treat you like shit. They can be the butt of a joke in every media from movies to comedy and no one will bat an eye yet when it’s about something such as obesity or race people get riled up. Why is this? Do people just enjoy making fun of anyone other than them because it makes them feel better in comparison? Are they really that incompassionate?
Look at this fucking newspaper I found in the store. It translates roughly to “Your brain is coded to hate the ugly. New science shows that evolution has made us hate some faces - and rightly so”.
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>guy dressed well with groomed hair
>vs guy with unkempt hair, dirty clothes, etc…
None of that is looks, it's just basic self-care.


for some reasons normies are afraid to admit that physically ugly people exist. You see online how they advise to just put on better clothes, lose the pounds, brush your teeth etc assuming this is the reason of your unattractiveness. It's mass-delusion. Maybe normies are so arrogant they want to think that they are the makers of their good looks, when they just won the genetic lottery.


They aren’t afraid to admit it. They deliberately conceal it and they all know that if the truth gets out, it becomes far easier to escape the mental prison we call society that normies have created for the lowest status males.

It’s a bit like why abusers gaslight their victims. The gaslighting makes it harder to outmaneouver them and escape the trap. If it were commonly acklowledged and known by low status males that muh bootstraps, muh grooming, all the little red herrings normies throw at you were fake? If low status males all knew that every little insult the normgroid buklies at school threw at you… if they knew every insult was based on lies, that the bullies would have and could have come up with any little thing to make you seem like a bad person for doing anything at all…


Makes sense. The rabbit-hole really does reach deep.


>Maybe normies are so arrogant they want to think that they are the makers of their good looks, when they just won the genetic lottery
This is definitivly part of it. As a whole they don't just dislike ugly people but theyre disgusted by them. Sugarcoat it all you want but at the end of the day the reason charachters that are canonically ugly and "le quirky" are almost always portrayed by good looking succubi they just slap some loose fitting clothes and glasses on is because no one wants to even SEE ugly people. It is like how succubi will say stuff like "Oh I don't judge people based on appearance but how they are on the inside" yet as soon as they get in an argument with someone they'll be calling them an ugly short loser.

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What is your experience with using stimulants for productivity? I mean proper stims like amphetamine, methylphenidate, other ADHD meds, etc. While I can't get these drugs easily I can order research chemical stimulants that are chemically similar to these drugs, for example the image is a picture of 2-FMA, which reddit says is better than Adderall for productivity. I've never used RCs though, I only used Adderall in high school briefly but my psychiatrist stopped prescribing it after I overdosed on heroin (long story, clean now). Anyways, what are your experiences with stimulants for productivity and focus?
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Are there vendors in the usa for 2-FMA?


Honestly, you're playing with fire with the research chemicals. Have you used them before? Because if you haven't they come as a packet of nondescript powder that you have to measure out yourself. That might sound easy but it really isn't. Using your kitchen scales with RCs isn't going to cut it because the error margin is too high. So what do you do? You end up having to buy special scales that jewelers use for weighing precious gems and metals, complete with a frigging standard weight set to calibrate your scales (yes, no joke.) These are okay, but depending on the RC the slightest breeze can still cause you to measure out too much of the material and you'll end up poisoning yourself when you go to use the drug. I'm not saying that's at all the case with 2-FMA – just that the potential for messing up measuring is high because it's essentially outsourcing semi-skilled lab work to random pharmaceutical connoisseurs (less affectionately termed junkies, kek.)

I can also bet you that you're not going to get your chemicals tested. So will it even be 2-FMA? You don't know. You don't know if its pure or not which might help you with measuring. If it's not pure and you decided to use volumetric measuring (which isn't a bad idea, btw) would the adulterants have an effect on concentrations of the drug across the liquid? It's your body. You need to be safe with this shit to avoid being one of the many dumb as fuck junkies that end up in hospital. My advice to you would be just to drink strong coffees, get a good diet, and stay hydrated. There's also no replacement for strong internal motivation to start with. Good motivation that you don't have to fake is already like being on crack, IMO (not that I'd know, fuck crack.)



I bought research chems before and they came in pill form. It was colazapam or one of those. I didn't feel anything from it. But it made me sick.


>he thinks buying precision scales for chemicals is hard
You can get 1mg precise scales on amazon for 60€, plus dustbox for free as a tip to not influence the scale with air circulation or dust.


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I have ADHD and got Ritalin, whoch didn't help even after doubling the dose. might have still be a too low dose. That said I wasn't interested in another doubling, because my lack of concentration wasn't crippling and I thought I'd just have to get a grip.

I self-medicated with coffee since about 16yo. This works for short burst studying and is also good to train your brain to accept the taste and smell and the action of drinking coffee as a signal for studying. However when I started to work and study a distance degree on the side, "burst-studying" just didn't cut it anymore. I ended up drinking coffee every full hour or so. After 2 years I started getting side-effects from the coffee like stomach cramps, exhaustion, memory-lapses and bad sleep.

Researched alternatives and thought maybe dopamine detox might work, which is a simply fancy concept for something more complex. Doing nothing for someone with ADHD is naturally hell. First 3rd and 4th day without caffeine were bad: no sleep and incredible headaches. However it was only those 2 days and that was it. Cold turkey.

The only stimulating thing I do nowadays are browsing imageboards and forums. I have to say imageboards are dopamine-rush-inducing infinite content pools that I ought to avoid. Anyways: no gaming, no youtube, no anime, no entertainment whatsoever, no sweets and enough sleep made studying itself more interesting. Work not so much, but it is what it is. Coffee worked better, but entertainment-deprivation is a close second. It takes a longer time to work, btw. I'd recommend to just try it before you turn to chemicals for productivity. At the end its all in your head- even with ADHD (mild cases assumed).

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