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 No.303254[Reply]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
/wiz/ tier room setups edition.
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 No.303414

I will probably be depressed for the rest of my life

 No.303416

>>303414
I doubt that. Depression for most is just a short phase. Just try to shake up your routine a bit and try new things and like most you'll eventually come to appreciate something enough to forget about being a sad crybaby.

 No.303417

>>303416
Nigger I've been depressed for 10 years now. I don't need you to tell me what to try.

 No.303418

>>303412
Um no. As a refuge from cuck chan, I don't know the exact legality of your place, but I'm 99% sure it's not legal. Just tell them to kick rocks. We wizards need to start applying practical skills now. No need to keep on studying when the horse is right at the gates. We are not supposed to be slaves to these peasants.

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>>303418
Agreed, try embracing da AI, *ja*



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 No.303176[Reply]

Reminder to take your vitamins, especially "fish oil" one " Vitamin D3



they say Vitamin D3, because "Vitamin D" sounds like an euphemism, kekeke
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 No.303185

>>303184
fish oil - as in cod liver oil - yes, it does work

i wonder if canned cod liver has vitamin D too (as in not ruined by canning, heating and stuff)

 No.303210

Reminder suplements are bullshit that is no better than meds.

 No.303214

>>303210
Silly billy, your thesis only works for "normal" climate of California/TexMex/Ibiza, not Estonia and Denmark, let alone Oslo and Helsinki

 No.303233

>>303176
Real sunlight is more of a mood enhancer than the D3 pills. For example don't be in a dark room all the time, that will make you go crazy.

 No.303415

>>303210
Proper nutrition and a diet which gives the body everything it could possibly use for cognition is not bullshit you twink.
>>303214
More random English words chained together to form nonsense.



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 No.296511[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This is the classic "suicide general", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards, quite different from that other thread in the catalog.

I'm currently 26, almost 27 (rings a bell?). And I can't take it anymore. I will soon depart from life through hanging. I haven't done it yet because I live in a shithole and there are always people around making noise and being nosy. I will just wait till it's very quiet so I can go to the woods and end this miserable existence.

I don't care if it might "get better". Existence itself is a curse and we're all gonna die anyway. I've read enough pessimist books and life affirming books and I side with the former. I don't need your compansion, because the thought that I will soon disappear is the only thing that makes me happy. I'm not even sad because of this.
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 No.303390

>>303382
Whats the link to SaSu?

 No.303392

>>303390
Please delete this

 No.303396


 No.303410

>>303396
Do not visit crab buckets that's why

 No.303413

>>303410
How do I torture crabs then?


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 No.303370[Reply]

I think I understand something now.

A lot of people on /dep/ have quarter-life crisis and aren't actually 30+ wizards

Some here are 30+ wizards and are in midlife crisis.

So, let me say something. I have exited my quarter-life crisis. Now I think my midlife crisis will be milder than most people have since I have a job I enjoy in *ikigai* sense, not just enjoy the fact "it pays the bills".

 No.303394

The site has never been even close to majority 30+. If you actually hit 30, you've earned your stripes. I turn 29 in 3 days, and I haven't felt the itch to post regularly for years. People forget that the expected lifespan for a male virgin is probably not the same as it is for an average person.

 No.303411

They called it 'crisis' for a reason. Mine also hit at 30, but I was too broke to buy a Mustang or get hair plugs or whatever. I ended up diving back into hobbies from my 20's but found that stuff hollow and unfulfilling. I'm just glad I only wasted $500 on comic books and some car audio nonsense happened.



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 No.303408[Reply]

Looks like my father was a psychopath, not being able to tell apart "tears of happniess" cry from "manipulative crybaby" cry.

Looks like I would not be able to handle growing up in his house anyway.

 No.303409

>>303408
Although, come to think of it, I should not really blame a person initially born with psychopathy in this very "I don't *feel* what do you mean" sense. And my father *may be this very kind of person* - unironically not being sensitive, thus "dumb" in terms of emotional intelligence.



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 No.303398[Reply]

The sole purpose of this post is to share the techniques and books I have accumulated over time to achieve relaxation and other things.
I have read about meditation, magic, ceremonial magic, chaotic and postmodern magic, anxiety therapies, and relaxation techniques. This thread is not a cure for all problems. I don't want to turn this into a blogspot, so feel free to ask whatever you want.
>Also
Remember that you can also search for the techniques I mention on the internet, on YouTube, or on WikiHow, where you can find help on how to perform these techniques and more tips.
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 No.303403

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>>303398
>Vagus nerve stimulation
Vagus nerve stimulation is used in many therapies and even in meditation and magic techniques. There are several ways to stimulate it.
>Directly with your hands touching the nerves or massages
cardiologists do this, as well as using technology-tools-gadgetz to stimulate the nerve directly.
>Somatic exercises or body movements
somatic exercises or even cardio exercises
>Moving your eyes to the left for a while
1 minute or a little more would be enough
>Breathing
box breathing stimulates the vagus nerve, a lot of techniques of breathwork do it.
Tibetan Buddhists, thanks to visualization techniques, suggestion, low-oxygen breathing, and ideas of the subtle body with visualization, achieve high temperatures, in which they exercise the vagus nerve. And yes, the Wim Hof method uses this, but the truth is that it is not relevant to the topic. I only mention the Tummo or Wim Hof techique if you're curious.

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>>303402
I Forget this, the practice of metta singing vowels stimulates the vagus nerve, just as normal singing does.

>>303398
>Somatic exercises
Surely more than once you've seen Chinese people and strange folks doing woo-woo New Age stuff or tai chi. Science already knows that these things are relaxing, but it's not necessary to believe in their energies (although they sometimes see it as a form of breathing, hypnosis, or even a form of subtle body training beliefs).
There are exercises focused on relaxation without the need for those primitive beliefs (which I respect). They are called somatic exercises. People with autism sometimes do these movements unconsciously as the so called for them stims, and they are very relaxing and low cortisol and anxiety.
>Also
Here is a video for you to try them out.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LXklv3el1jw
Even relaxing your body standing at home and moving your arms as if you were a child playing or balancing on your feet is a form of somatic exercise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MoE6JdlsQ
For example, I just lie down and bring my legs together and move them from left to right for a while. It's quite relaxing, similar to rocking in a chair.

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>>303398
>Sunbath
This star in the space give us Vitamin D, Vitamin D helps with sleep and metabolism, and even the heat caused by being in the sun for a few minutes relaxes the muscles and helps you sleep.
The best thing you can do if you wake up early is to sunbathe between 6:00 and 10:00 a.m. (after thats hours, the sun gets stronger and UV rays increase). I recommend sunbathing with 50% of your body exposed to sunlight, so take off your shirt and stay in the sun for just 10 or 15 minutes and that's enough.
Even looking at the sun out of the corner of your eye increases your perception of color and slightly improves your mood.
>Touch grass
Touch the grass with your feet for a while. Don't ask what it does, best find out for yourself.
>sky and clouds gazing
gaze the clouds and the sky is incredible relaxing, tibetan buddhist do this for some meditation techniques and rituals.
>sky night and stars gazing
just watch the night sky sometimes, it's mesmerizing. the moon is beatiful.

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>>303398
>The stupid question
Many times it has happened to me that I don't know what the hell is wrong with me, and the first thing that comes to mind is that I am a shit, i feeling bad, sad, I have depressive or suicidal thoughts, and that I am a bundle of nerves and i hate myself and i a loser.
but…
Some of the books I have read about relaxation and other topics use something basic that makes sense. just a self question that sound cringe.
>I need something now?, or am I lacking in some physiological need right now?
It sounds absurdly stupid, but with this you sometimes come to the conclusion that i just needed to drink more water, go to the bathroom, get away from a certain crowd of people, fix clothes or try more smart clothes or do something or sleep more.
And what happens to those dangerous feelings caused by anxiety and hate and sadness? They go away or fade away.

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>>303398
>More breathwork or breath techniques
There's a lot of breath techniques
But if I had to give you some advice, when you have a panic attack or feel very nervous, hold your breath.
If you want to try something, try breathing only through your nose for a while, placing your tongue on the roof of your mouth and relaxing your jaw (this is common for all meditation techniques)
>Also
you can breathe through your nose and mouth and exhale in the same way at the same time through your nose and mouth. it feels different.
A well-known technique is to inhale and exhale while saying MUUUU or OMMM, followed by an affirmation with your body leaning forward while saying aham. You may even smile unconsciously after doing this because it sounds silly.



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 No.302319[Reply]

Let's discuss strategies for getting rid of pessimistic thoughts. No negativity allowed in this thread.

I know this is a meme, but taking a shower can completely turn my mood around and make my worries go away, even if it's just for a couple of hours. Listening to uplifting and happy music is also very effective for me. Sometimes I have to force myself at first, but generally it changes my mood.

What are some things you wizs do to minimize depression?
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 No.302924

test

 No.303368

>>302319
>What are some things you wizs do to minimize depression?


backgound music AKA muzak

small funny pulsating night lamp may help me

do not eat "comfort food" every day! My mom did a mistake feeding me fat tasty stuff every day, profusely rioting against my dietary preferences. I have noticed eating less of her cool stuff and eating more practical stuff is ebin.

 No.303383

>>302319
In my experience, crying also helps to release sadness, or even to try to let out the trapped emotion in my chest. After that, I'm tired and sleep for about half an hour. It's fairly effective, if you ask me.

 No.303386

>>302319
Sleeping helps. Of course, it's major avoidance but my bed is pretty much the only place on this world where I don't feel any sort of negative emotion. Stress, anxiety, sadness, it all melts away once I am under the covers and have closed my eyes. I have even begun enjoying the feeling of drifting in and out of consciousness when I set short alarms for afternoon naps and keep snoozing, like surfing the tide of unreality. Dreams are also usually the only place I actually feel positive emotion and when I do it tends to linger and keep me going for some part of the day after.
I think this strategy only works if you've trained your brain to associate your bed only with sleeping though. I've never been someone who spends any waking time in bed to read or consume content or whatever, so my physiological reaction is pretty robust.

 No.303391

>>303386
>Sleeping helps. Of course, it's major avoidance but my bed is pretty much the only place on this world where I don't feel any sort of negative emotion. Stress, anxiety, sadness, it all melts away once I am under the covers and have closed my eyes.

JEALOUS!!!

I can't fall asleep until some specific conditions (not too hot, not too bright yet not too dark) are met due to being both too fat and too large



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 No.293203[Reply]

I'm going broke, and I really don't know how to deal with this fact. I went to 4 doctors to treat it, but none of them worked, and no matter how many medications I took, I was never able to overcome this problem. But these only caused me terrible side effects, such as fatigue, weight gain, apathy, a lot of disinterest in everything, and alopecia, but they were never able to attack the impulses. Violence never stops.
Sometimes I blame my family for raising me in such a violent environment, but then I think it's better to bury the past and look forward. But sometimes it is difficult, since it is not about the violence of 10 or 15 years ago, it is about things sometimes from less than a week ago.

I feel like an alcoholic, where instead of keeping a place free of that poison, it is offered to me in all shapes, sizes, colors and flavors.
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 No.303372

>>299257
>most of them automatically get sexual experiences
The final level of crabbery: Thinking attractive men are just being dogpiled by pussy around the clock to the point that it's nearly impossible to remain a virgin. Elliot Roger talks about this.

 No.303373

>>299257
the one good thing about christianity is its almost the only way you get actual volcel chads. like actual football jock virgins.

sure its only temporary, and they eventually want to get married and breed. but its better than nothing.

 No.303374

>>303373
>The one good thing about Christianity is how it delays strong White men from procreating while young.
Shut up, kike.

 No.303376

>>303374
if you think a delay is bad, i cant imagine what you think of a permanent denial like wizchan

 No.303378

take 10 mg oral minoxidil or more daily



 No.297753[Reply]

How do you guys fight anhedonia? Do you have any experience with it?
I basically don't feel pleasure from anything except food, maybe. Stories, games, art don't really touch me at all and it sucks because I remember how much I loved escapism before and how it brought excitement, joy, sadness etc. Now it's all blank. I want to bring emotions back, want to bring excitement, joy, even sweet sadness would do honestly, I miss being profoundly sad.

Have any of you managed to revert to your older non-anhedonic self?
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 No.301975

>>297753
I find that missing a night of sleep helps anhedonia. NO fucking clue why. and it doesn't keep working (missing two nights of sleep in a row doesn't continue it). Wouldn't recommend doing it a lot.

Some drugs help but they always stop working once you build tolerance and then they never work well again I find

Other than i don't know. setting goals doesn't help in fact I would recommend against forcing yourself to do stuff you don't find enjoyable. It's like how trying to force yourself to sleep actually makes insomnia worse. You just end up associating frustration with the activity you want to do.

Life with anhedonai feels pointless. No pleasure, no point? Like why do anything. I just end up doing nothing

 No.302012

>>297753
I have found out eating 5-htp sometimes + consuming tyrosine-rich foods (kasha, bananas) helps me.


Context: seronotin is made of 5-htp in body

dopamine is made of

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>>297753
Amphetamines and cold showers

 No.302030

>>302012
>>302012
>dopamine is made of
tyrosine


also, I asked PerPLX AI to rework my text in "Crowdon Londoner" style:
Bruv, you know there’s bare tyrosine in bananas and buckwheat, innit? And listen — buckwheat porridge, slap a bit o’ gravy on, that hits different. Proper jokes though, ‘cause it’s like the stuff don’t even wanna be porridge in the first place!

 No.303369

>>297753
I tried drinking fuckton of coffee ever since. Did NOT work properly. Allows me to function in some half-hearted/half-assed way (aka posting stuff on Wizardchan instead of doing my work… bak to werk methinks…)



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 No.301913[Reply]

I just wanna share my story.


Whatdver I did to exit the /dep/ zone (for now, at least) and the endless sadness, it all was… random


Getting a job that has no colleagues, and only one boss? Random "warehouse worker needed" entry in a random find-a-job type app

Fixing my sleep? Accidentally discovered here and there what clothing helps me to sleep/what temp is comfortable/how to treat my AC/there is "background noise for sleep" technique/accidentally discovered this "despression may be caused by ruined sleep, studies suggest" theory…


…and so on.


(example: pajamas with a blanked in the summer = bad, empty bedsheet, a t-shirt and undies - okay)
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 No.302772

>>302350
Context: my apartment has strong heat-insulated walls, which prevent the heat from dissipating quickly. Not everyone live in a home like that, hence the big problem

 No.303057

>>302772
It was 23 degrees Celsius in my room this morning, by the way

 No.303365

Update. Autumn weather + heated apartment = my sleep is good. Unfortunately, I need a proper nightstand lamp and I lack the determination to drill a wall.

 No.303366

>>301927
Also, in some other thread, an importance of good diet for mental well-being was mentioned.

To avoid "dissing" my mom's intentions, I should say she keep cooking *comfort food* - not bad, but it's shouldn't be your everyday food. Yet it was my everyday food.

 No.303367

Also, in some other thread, an importance of good diet for mental well-being was mentioned.

To avoid "dissing" my mom's intentions, I should say she keeps cooking dishes that can be attributed to the idea of *comfort food*. That's not too bad, a normie would never put a blame on a mommy like mine for being a dotting caring perosn, but! [[Comfort food]] shouldn't be your everyday choice!



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