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 No.253009[Reply]

I'm not even depressed as much as i know, but sometimes it can be really depressing to think about the shitty limitations provided by envirornment and genetics. Life can be more tedious than average when you IQ(WAIS-III)is below your shithole's average, as if it wasn't not enough to deal with these normies and their annoying local culture.The concept of libertarian free will is a mirage, but it's still kind of hard to accept that, i feel like i'm watching a autistic comedy movie.
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 No.253058

>>253055
You think you're making a point, but you're making me horny. Fuck off

 No.253059

>>253058
Off yourself.

 No.253062

>>253059
Get me off

 No.253063

>>253062
Kill yourself, nigger.

 No.253133

>>253063
we are all wizzies here calm down



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 No.253046[Reply]

do your parents force you to do anything?
i'm 26 and still live with my parents, while i know they don't hate me, they do put alot of pressure on me to do normal things; get a 3DPD and focus on collage etc. i understand what they mean but they're so oppressive i almost makes it worse. and i can't do anything against them whatever they say goes. but at the sametime they do love me, it's this weird back and forth and i just feel alot from it.
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 No.253128

>>253126
>I cannot think
That's the problem. You are not a genius.

 No.253129

>>253127
And these people are all normalfags. You know, that type of person that people on this website don't like and tend to feel opressed by? If you do not want to behave like them then you are persecuted. Or is it just me that feels like that and everyone else here is just joking?

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 No.253131

>>253130
Have you heard of books?

 No.253132

>>253129
What are you even talking about?



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 No.251737[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here when you don't have enough to say for a topic and it's too depressing for the general crawl thread.
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 No.253115

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>>253114
Suffering through shitposts is never without aim or purpose. It makes us stronger or richer in experiences. Without suffering through shitposts life would be boring.

 No.253117

>>253109
I honestly love reading his unfiltered schizo thoughts and the waifus are pretty.

 No.253118

>>253115
Fucking 10/10.

 No.253119

>>253117
Agreed, but I suppose they prefer the walls of diarrhea currently up on display in the /lounge/ politics thread, rather than the self-obsessive schizophrenia-flavored anime-style kind. Different strokes, I guess.

 No.253120

>>253082
I like them.


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 No.249435[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

If you're reading this, it means you haven't killed yourself yet. So? What's the hold up?
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 No.253070

>>253005
This is just some way that some people who suffer misfortunes try to make themselves feel better by tricking themselves that they really are better off because of it. I went through a 2-year-long phase of that after reading Nietzsche and Deleuze, so I find it very trite and a bit too dramatic.

It's only when you can more detach from it all that you can you look at it a bit more objectively with an aristocratic cold disdain, like Schopenhauer and Lovecraft (interestingly, one an extreme idealist and the other an extreme materalist).

>"Life itself is a sea full of rocks and whirlpools that man avoids with the greatest caution and care, although he knows that, even when he succeeds with all his efforts and ingenuity in struggling through, at every step he comes nearer to the greatest, the total, the inevitable and irremediable shipwreck, indeed even steers right on to it, namely death." - World as Will and Representation, § 57.

Suffering is useful (sometimes) because it helps you navigate more accurately the "sea full of rocks and whirlpools." But regardless of how amazing you become at it you still arrive at the "irremediable shipwreck." So these lessons and insights are ultimately futile and pointless.

>Suffering is useful because it helps you achieve X

And why is X useful?
>X is useful to achieve Y, which helps achieve Z
And why is Z useful?
>Because… well, because it's desirable in itself and means you're some Übermensch badass
But even achieving Z is ultimately pointless. You then die and it all fades away and is forgotten forever as if it had never existed in the first place.

Now, you can be an idealist like Schopenhauer and believe that consciousness and "The world is my representation" is eternal and infinite, with no beginning and no end. Or you can be a staunch materialist like Lovecraft and believe that the universe is purely composed of particles and their meaningless motions, and it would make no difference for the value of one's own life. If my consciousness has always and will always exist, then infinite lifetimes full of the greatest wonders and horrors, and Herculean achievements and catastrophic failures, have all already been forgotten, as will this lifetPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.253071

>>252720
>Suffering is never without aim or purpose. It makes us stronger or richer in experiences. Without suffering life would be boring.
And without life there is neither boredom nor suffering nor stronger and richer experiences, or any experiences for that matter, which is the whole point of the discussion.

There is no aim or purpose, it's only invented afterwards. You know, even your daddy Nietzsche said that last one.

 No.253072

>>253064
>The only problem is that I don't know what it is.
Suffer for ?? years.

 No.253103

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>>253064
Ask the void: https://www.verywellmind.com/holotropic-breathwork-4175431
>because you just sound so much ready for it

 No.253104

>>253072
Like that other poster I have no interest in pessimism, which is why I tend not to post on /dep/ except for when my melancholy overwhelms me. If you truly believe that life is nothing but suffering then you have a lifetime to rectify that problem yet your type chooses to whine on imageboards instead of taking this opportunity. I am not one that believes that the immediate passions are the greatest dimension of human feeling, but I believe that it is possible to detach the self from these sensatations and view them with the rational faculty, at which point you realise that these sensations are unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

>>253103
I'd prefer not to gain my wisdom from a superstitious popular cult.


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 No.253030[Reply]

>inb4 bleach
What can one use to mix with urine to remove the smell of it?
My previous piss jug strategy was to fill large 1.5 liter bottles and hide them with other trash and throw them out but:
1. Almost got busted (trash full, classic).
2. Used to drink soda, don't anymore, so no bottles.
Now I'm using some jugs and I'm careful to empty them in the toilet while everyone is sleeping.
The thing is the smell. Imagine the smell. I've tried vinegar, but it just smelled like vinegar and piss.
I tried using dish soap, and there was some limited success.
I bought some "calcium nitrate tetrahydrate" shit for portable toilets, and I think it removed the smell,
I'm not sure. It made the piss in the jug turn really brown and like… separated into almost water on top completely
covered with white mold. Probably lack of air and/or light. I'm not going to sleep with an open piss jug.
I'm considering smuggling that piss jug into the woods to empty it.
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 No.253038

Anyone else like poohing the bed? You can wrap up the mess in sheets and store it away for max wiz potency.

 No.253053

>>253037
You too stupid to make the trek all away across the Hall to take a piss?

 No.253060

>>253053
>You too stupid[…]?
This is wizchan.

 No.253068

I don’t understand the point of trying to concoct some nefarious scheme where you turn your pee into water, spending time researching and buying various chemicals, when you can just pee in your toilet. What are you doing that is so important that you can’t even get up from your pc?

 No.253101

Do you have a window? What if you put a hose out your window, connected a funnel, and then pissed into and pissed into the funnel.



 No.249036[Reply]

Who else here is addicted to alcohol? I'm completely using control lately. I still have a job, but sometimes I am drunk while working.

I just want to die at this point.
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 No.253044

>>253024
Stopped when I went broke and now the negative health effects scare me away too.
I hope they never invent cheap and healthy alcohol.

1 dl Vodka and 4 dl Sprite was my go-to because I was a babby.
Chugged 3 to 4 of those and had a good time. Then the tolerance started going up.
At worst made me gain like 10 kg in two months, it was pretty bad but made some good memories at the same time.

Go on without me alchowizzies, good luck

 No.253045

>>249036
Replace that with weed, I don't miss a day without doing it and no i'm not a dude weed lmao tard, it's just the healthiest drug I can cope with.

 No.253047

I would be considered an alcoholic, but that is really just another stupid boomer construct that isn't representative of how the real world works at all. Well, for me, at least. I used to spend just about every waking hour drunk, aside from the hours I spent of work (I sure as shit showed up to work drunk, though). Now I only drink maybe once or twice a week as a treat.

Long story short, the pandemic allowed me to stay isolated in my wiz cave for the past 2 years, which did wonders for my mental health. My depression was cured, allowing me to enjoy things again finally. It got to the point where being drunk 24/7 made me feel worse than being sober. Well, most of the time, at least. I didn't give up alcohol, but I no longer feel a compulsion to drink all the time. 'Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic' is fucking bullshit. No, I wasn't addicted to alcohol. In fact, I had an entire case of wine sitting in my home for months but I never felt compelled to drink it because I am not that much of a wine drinker. Younger me would've chugged the fuck out of that case because I was using the booze to cope with the shit life I had. The shit life that I was fucking gaslit by everyone into believing I should be happy to have. Now that I am no longer depressed, I see alcohol as more of a life enhancement and not a requirement to stay sane.

My birthday is next week. I think I will celebrate it with an expensive whiskey and a delicious cake.

 No.253065

sometimes i contemplate drinking myself to death, but i have actually slowed down on drinking. average of 3 nights every two weeks that i drink now (although i pretty much drink to blackout on those nights).

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>>253044
You could distill sugar and yeast in a still you bought off amazon, you know. And I will go on without you. I never felt that it was a problem until the 7-9 drink mark, at which point I'd begin to feel a bit ill. I fell off the wagon again, got an natural ice in my hand again as I post. Cheers mate.



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 No.253079[Reply]

I'd be better off as one of those mutilated corpses in the trenches of WWII, at least I'd die with the illusion that I was fighting for something greater.
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 No.253091

>>253086
>FFS
Of course he's as happy as a little pink pony, wiz

 No.253092

>>253079
Probably both Hitler and the allies were part of the same game: destroying germany and sacrficing goyim

 No.253093

>>253092
Hitler was a blessing in diguise for the Jews, without him the modern state of Israel would never exist and the muslims would be the dominant force in middle east.

Truly the best goy ever.

 No.253094

>>253091
You and I both know the level of retard that hangs around here. You can never be sure.

 No.253095

hopefully someone's about to use the nukes eventually.



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 No.251348[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

end of the year and doing it all over again edition

previous >>247482
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 No.253029

>>253028
It's easy: work a real job and then make up stories like that one on your downtime.

 No.253043

>>253020
>>253017
thanks wizbros

>>253028
I started as L2 support and moved to different projects when a chance presented itself. There was a lot of luck involved for me to end up where I am now, since most of the time you don't really know how good a project is at first glance.
From my observation I can safely say that most L2 support wagies tend to move to a better place within 3-4 years. If you can't find an L2 position with no experience you can work for like a year in L1 to get something worth putting on your CV, but be prepared to hate it (tedious, schematic, lots of human contact).

 No.253052

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A coworker complains about his problems at me. Generally, it's about how SJWs are ruining capeshit/Star Wars movies, but lately He's been complaining about how his ex. How much he misses her (despite her being a shit head), etc

I hate my work enough without a normal blathering away about its problems

 No.253056

>>253052
Your coworker sounds like the kind of person who posts on 4chan (all boards).

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>>253043
Sounds like too much of a nightmare for me. I think I'll just continue slowly working towards my CS degree even though it'll probably take me awhile. Since I'm too low IQ for math (calculus classes are required for a CS degree) I'm just going to pay people to do them for me. Thanks for the advice anyways anon, and congrats on making It.


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 No.252910[Reply]

Videogames are no longer fun, anime,books,porn,none of my old hobbies no longer give me my fix of dopamine.I watched one movie last year and that's it.What do you guys do when you get to this point?
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 No.252961

>>252949
It becomes easier to do once you build up enough awareness and intuition for the mechanism. You can take up arbitrary frames of mind with a little imagination, especially things you've probably already experienced before (like your previous enjoyment of your hobbies). No matter how stuck you are in a particular frame, you can always call up another one, at least for a moment. Professional actors might or might not be aware of this particular mechanism, where they can call up a frame of mind that compels laughter or crying or anger, rather than consciously guiding their actions that often results in fake and unnatural acting. A good actor, if he needs to get angry, will intuitively enter a frame in which some grave injustice has been done to him by the target of his anger, then the angry behavior becomes compelling and natural. You've probably heard of method acting as well, where the actor actually spends months preparing for a role in order build enough experience and intuition for the kinds of mindsets and behavior required.

The first thing to understand is that these frames of mind are fundamentally instrumental in nature, they serve a purpose and you can get stuck in certain frames of mind if your current present situation calls for it. If taking up the particular frame of mind offers emotional stability, you will tend to stay there unless you find a better frame or you realize that it no longer serves its original purpose. A depressive frame which makes depressive symptoms compelling i.e. psychomotor retardation, demotivation, lack of pleasure and so on, can itself be useful to the person and the person might actively keep themselves in that frame, usually unconsciously (or even consciously with the LDAR philosophy).

Consider someone that's in a bad situation and they have to deal with all kinds of negative emotions like uncertainty, fear of failure, anxiety, being overwhelmed etc. A certain amount of people will end up in a depressive frame as a way of coping. Either they arrive at it intuitively or they learn it by observing other people, especially family members, like a mother that takes up the depressive frame every other week and lies in bed for days. Once you learn to take up that frame, you will tend towards stability and when your mind is faced with certain unmanageable emotions, you retreat into the safety and comfort of Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.252976

>>252961
>just be happy
I hope you and your circuitous walls of text continue to multiply and drown out any and all depressive talk on this website. Then, with no outlet for our grief, we may finally all kill ourselves–or do something useful.

 No.252980

ECT

 No.252985

>>252976
>>just be happy

That's not a very good summary of what I wrote. Perhaps it's "circuitous" because you didn't understand it? I never mentioned happiness, merely how depressive symptoms are compelling inside of a depressive frame of mind and make perfect sense to the person within it, then explained how the frame is kept in place because it affords emotional stability despite all the "depressive talk" that says otherwise. If you happen to read one of the longer depressive musings on this website, the general impression is not one of suffering but of a sickly enjoyment. If the idea of "nothing matters" and "everything is shit" were so painful to these people, would they feel the need to endlessly remind themselves of it and express it in ever more creative ways? More and more, the depressive seems like a man humming a song to himself, supposedly one that he doesn't like very much.

Admittedly, the actual shift mechanism isn't explained terribly well because it's an intuitive process and goes beyond the reach of verbal instruction, but even children can understand how to imagine without anyone needing to describe an exact step by step guide for them. The major theme of what I write about is taking control of unconscious or rather implicit processes and ceasing to be a puppet of your circumstances by building awareness and self-understanding. If you expect things to get better on their own, they most certainly can, but then you are simply a leaf at the mercy of the wind (or even the weather itself, if conditions like "seasonal depression" were to be taken seriously).

 No.253040

>>252976
As someone who's in what feels like a similar situation, I think I can understand where you're coming from and what you're feeling at the moment. Sometimes it seems like each day is worse than the last, like there's no hope for improvement ect ect. But.. during the brief times I'm able to think clearly (which is very hard in this emotional storm of a god awful life I live) I do think to myself that maybe there's only a lack of hope and possibility for a half way decent future, because I've stubbornly refuse to change the course of life I'm on. I often get the urge to kill myself, because there doesn't appear to be any reason not to with the way things are now, but in those windows of clarity I think, if I'm going to kill myself anyway, maybe it wouldn't hurt to at least 'try' something else. I think you could too anon. Think of it this way; if you're going to die anyway, then what's the worst than can happen if you do something which puts your life in danger? Worst case scenario, you reach the same end result. Best case or even average outcome would result in a change to your life for the better. Seems a bit like common sense to at least try, but I can totally 100% understand not being able to see things that way when your vision is clouded by negative emotions. It might help a lot of try and take a bit of a vacation/break from your normal life for a few days, so something completely different that would clear your mind, and think things over. The reality is we all have options and different paths we can choose to take, and sure they might not be perfect, but if the path you're on is a dead end road, then what's the harm in changing directions?



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 No.248003[Reply]

I know this will sound fun to a lot of you. My thread might also be deleted since it has no other purpose than talking about me. You can talk about yourself on that thread as well.
So here's the thing: i'm way too naive. I swallow anything a person tells me. The logical thing would be to just back off from society. That's what i did for years, and not for that reason. Rather for bullying and health reasons that ruined my life. But that's not the subject here. The problem is that i still have internet and therefore have access to people who can potentially still keep using my weakness against me. So basically i was talking with someone whom i thought of a friend on internet. Stupid of me right? Anyway he asked me 500$ for a project he talked to me for like a week. Stupid right? Well again, i am stupid. He said that he would pay me back double after his project is done, i believed him and paid him. Guess what? He just disappeared after that.

So now the very little money i had accumulated after many years, gone. I don't even know what to say, i'm too emotionally weird to actually cry or do anything. I will just keep living like always. Meaning: doing absolutely nothing and wait for the next day. Should i post this here? I'm sure not. But i've learned something over the years about me. Whatever choice i do, it's always the wrong one. Always. All my live has been bad choices, alongside with the fact that it was pretty much screwed since the beginning.

As for myself, my health sucks, i can't work, can't study. I don't have any friends or anyone to talk to except my mom and dad who are starting to get gradually tired of the fact that i'm doing nothing. My health issues are laughed of, or just denied, so i don't have any sort of financially help or anything. Those 500$ where somehow my pride. I was happy to have them, i told myself one day i will have a good pc, not the overused thrash i have here.

I can't eat properly, shit properly, i can't sleep more than 5 hours in a row at best. I suffer a lot. But i guess it's not enough. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried suicide, but it didn't work. Nothing worked in my life. I have tried a lot of things. A lot. I mean it. But nothing ever worked in my life. Absolutely nothing. And everything sucks in my life. Every aspect you could think of. I'm just so tired of suffering what's the fucking point?

I was so low before that, and objectively i'm as low as i was before. Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.249215

>>249152
My parents stole a similar amount from me. Inheritance that would have transformed my life. Fucking sucks to not be able to trust them, and the feeling of being abused while too young to defend myself. 10 years later I suppose it is far too late to pursue legal avenues but I was too psychologically manipulated before, and cant exactly sue someone you have to live with

 No.252136

>>249205
He said in the very first post that he has chronic health issues, you stupid cunt.

 No.252137

>>248003
>my savings
>$500
I skimmed to 500 and didn’t read anything else

 No.252774

>>248991
an actual exit bag is around 50$ though, and less mess clean up for biohazard workers (or your family)

>>252137
right? 500 isn't even enough to get the IRS involved

 No.253018

>>252774
Don't know where to buy it plus the few sites I've seen were scams



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