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 No.309621[Reply]

Does anyone else hate his own body? I hate mine so much, I feel uncomfortable in my own body the whole time, it doesn't matter what I'm doing, I feel dirty, sick, detqched from my body. I want to get out of my body.
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 No.309988

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another screenshot i had saved on voice to skull

 No.310014

>>309987
Wasn't this a metal problem or something? My whole live I was taught that.
Whatever, why anyone would do that to any guy?

 No.310019

>>309621
I wrote this at one point to capture the feeling but more aimed at other people but myself included:
when i look at people it feels like their flesh is limply hanging off of bones, ill fitting clothing is draped over and and the whole collection is a sick heap of bones and fat and flesh dressed up with scraps of fabric
looking at people makes me sick, it's like a boil about to burst, a mess of flesh and pus. these degraded people with degraded souls are already dead and decaying. the only growth in them is the growth a bacteria feeding on their decaying flesh, growing and writhing and gestating in it's disease. one day it will burst and their disgusting insides will flood out and seep into the ground and mix together and they'll be dead but their sickness and disease will have spread to everyone around them.

>>309635
I have also done this and it has helped quite a bit. Jung considers the persona, the external face, a necessary part of how we relate with the collective. It's necessary to have a mask if you want to relate to the collective, it's not actually possible or healthy to do it "as an individual". A big part of people's social disconnection I do think is the sort of lack of developing a persona and just distinguishing your self from the persona and recognizing it is just a mask you wear to make it easier to function socially.
If you think of the collective as a sort of collection of concepts/aesthetics/identities the persona is sort of a mediating layer. Your ego and your self interacts people through those collective concepts however to make who you are intelligible you need to sort of take what you can from the collective and incarnate it in that sort of persona representation of yourself. This is what provides the ability to comfortably socialize because you are doing it merely within the realm of the collective and it essentially has very little to do with you. The issue some people have is they abandon their self/ego and give over entirely to the collective and try to identify with their persona which is another error just in the other direction. The persona is not you, but it is the vehicle which you use to relate with the collective.
For me just good comfortable clothings/a style I feel sort of reflects who I am while stiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.310020

>>309621
Also in general with existential disconnection from your body this is something authors have written about. If you can get any slightly physical skill (playing an instrument, singing, gardening, anything atheltic/lifting) it gets you much more in tune with your body. I got into playing guitar and found it helped quite a bit.

 No.310026

>>310019
Reading that brought to my mind a short reading of "society of transparency by byung chul han" in a part of his work he says that society in the 19th used to be a theatre where everybody was interpreting a character not allowig others to see one just as one is. But in modernity that is gone and everybody is looking to show off themselves like they really are.
Obviously he said that first is sane while the second isn't



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 No.308391[Reply]

we must accept it. we are losers and society mocks us no matter what we do. we're not cool. we think we're cool because we are in a website where only virgin males are in and we circle jerk together. That's why we think we're superior to normalfags while in fact we're seen has failed people. you may feel as much superior as you like on wizchan but once out of the internet, you'll be mocked for being 30+ virgin male behind your back.
It sucks; being mocked and being. alower human being. even non-white are more successful than you and being racist doesn't change that. I think racism is a kind of cope people are because they're frustrated.
You can be as much succesful as you can be (rich, good job, house, beautiful car,etc…) like every other normalfags but at the end of the day when they'll ask you if you have a wife or a gf, and after you said never, they'll think something's wrong with you or you're gay.
Some wizards donnt give a fuck because they feel above all of that but those are, according too me, a übermensch bit it is a very rare case. so don't think you're one to please you're ego. I think the wizard übermensch has everything a normalfag has in life but is morally superior to them. those who uses this power to trashtalk others isn't a übermensch according to me because he does the same shit normalfags do to others to feel better. There's a lot of wizards who mock normalfags to feel better but at the end of the day it makes them look like as bad as normalfags. the übermensch is a rare case and I am 100% sure there's no übermensch wizard on here (or maybe 0,1%).
Anyway, I'm not making a thread about the wizardmensch because it would fit most on /wiz/ than /dep/. I'm making this thread on /dep/ because I'm sad and depressed being a failure. even failednormalfags mock us.
We're ugly and dumb. feel free to delete the thread mods, I don't care I'm sad. I don't want to push my narratives unto others. I know many wouldn't agree because they live a good life and don't care about what other people think or say about him, but I know most of the wizards suffer and that's why there's a /dep/ board…if it wasn't the case, tbis board wouldn't exist. wizards are sad. in fact I don't know why they're sad because they just have to live life luke anybody else; it's just they don't have a wife and kids but live life like everyone else on this earth. so why wizards aren't happy? Most if the time is life struggle like money or shitty job.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.308549

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>>308391
>even non-white are more successful than you
well you can be a nonwhite and still be a virgin otaku freak, man fuck my life
>>308534
>Living purely on state assistance is rarely a life worth living even in the west.
honestly it is quite comfy, social isolation aside but even when i was working i was too retarded to make human connections so does it really count? sure you dont have a lot of money but if you are in need you can just do a month of part time work and you're good to go, just buy an electric moped or ebike or some shit so you dont have to deal with buying gas and it's really nice the only bad thing is the weather but if you're a native european i think your body and mind is adjusted to cold weather so i guess thats just a migrant issue either way it is much better than wasting 75% of your waking time working alongside people who mock you for your mannerisms or interests

 No.308553

>>308536
yes, I'm jealous as my country has just stopped long term unemployment benefits, it is very limited now, it's finding a job or ending up homeless now
Imagine living in some Scandinavian country just collecting and being able to take walks in nature and stuff

 No.310018

>>308391
I agree and disagree, like >>308393 said this stuff is nuanced. Wizchan is the only place, including IRL and the internet, where I feel like I'm home and surrounded by my peers. Yes, we are failed edges of society, but the way that we handle that fate and reason about life and it all is done with care and with self-worth. It's not meaningless, it's meaningful. For what it's worth, I stand proud for wizchan, I think we are cool and I think we are the new punk. There's a thousand places for male virgins, but only a single place like wizchan.

 No.310022

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>>308391
I've never been mocked after leaving school. The older you get the more the world will ignore you because the less people you interact with aside from places where politeness and being cordial is soft-enforced.
Adults have things going on in their lives too, the older, the more things the less time and energy to bother even giving you a second glance.

I'm 31 now and it's not the interactions you get that hurt, but the lack of contacts, safety nets, opportunities or the lack of help in general.
There is much to be depressed about, but high school level nonsense like this isn't one of them in my eyes.

Again what you describe is exactly the "failed normie" stereotype. Crabs that lash out against each other and whoever else to feel better.
Wizards are like pic related for the most part. The older you get, the closer to this you should be.
I'm untouchable to normies and crabs alike, because I'm not insecure or bothered by what I am or the lack of succubi around my wand.
Meanwhile a crab is hurt because deep down they are miserable that they can't get any.

Why would you be bothered when people try to insult you with what amounts to accurate descriptions of your life? Nobody will call you gay IRL unless it's a slight jab, why are you offended, are you a closet homo?
Why are you sad if people say you can't get any succubi? Do you want any?
I don't get it.

Leave high school, leave college, your problems as described solve themselves.
Focus on health and money, as you accurately observed, those will hurt you in the long run.
You can afford being called a faggot by 9999 random NPCs, but unless you have a safety net you are probably 2 bad days away from homelessness.

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 No.310025

>>310022
yeah…you're maybe right. I'm over thinking things



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 No.309794[Reply]

Another Evil under the Sun Edition. You of many.

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 No.310008

Everyone at work is turning against me. What have I done? I am so weak. I want to cry. I wish I had the courage to blow my brains out.

 No.310009

>>310008
>I am so weak. I want to cry. I wish I had the courage to blow my brains out.
This is why. Male weakness is picked up on by the instincts of other humans and even by some animals. You are being filtered out of the community struggle because you are determined to be a liability. You can get lucky if your coworkers are females with children who will endear your weakness, but that's quite shameful.

 No.310012

>>310009
>You are being filtered out of the community struggle because you are determined to be a liability.
I should have locked myself in a university.

Life is so shit and humans are scum.

 No.310013

>>310012
>
Life is so shit and humans are scum
You can always kill yourself and free the world of some shit

 No.310023

>>310013
OK normie knight



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 No.306265[Reply]

I feel like a lot of people, especially older normies overestimate the abilities of the average guy and the problems that are out there to be solved in real life.

There is this old guy I listened to for the past decade now called Eli the Computer Guy and he often repeats this mantra that a tech professional should go out there pick themselves up by their bootstraps and solve problems for money.
Solve real world problems for money. Provide solutions using your skills. Over and over again while teaching people about making toy cars with a microcomputer or whatever.

Issue is there aren't any problems the average guy is capable of solving that people are able to pay enough for to make it worthwhile.
Maybe I'm low IQ and not creative enough, but that is the point I guess.
The average guy that got a CS or engineering degree and is now doing menial tasks at a big corporation isn't going to create groundbreaking solutions because everything worth doing, all the low hanging fruit and obvious problem/solution pairs have been done to death, patented to death or worse.

Big tech is so big that they offer a solution so refined, so solid, so cheap that no mom-and-pop shop will ever give you the time of day if those even exist.
The average normie is quite content with a phone which is basically a toy-ified computer gadget.
They don't need more.
Most even run their own little business from it using a handful of cheap/free big tech tools that if you were to offer a homebrew solution for it would cost an arm and leg to maintain without economies of scale.

What does a network tech that wants to "solve problems" do aside from running cable? You could lease a 10G fiber line from a big ISP and sublet it by wiring up a small village I guess?
Then the government gives a huge fucking grant to big ISP and they just wire up every small village themselves leaving you with nothing.
If you are lucky you can become a subcontractor doing menial tasks for the big ISP in a set region.

What does the average coder do now? Especially with the future of them limiting hardware/software access? Every app is made that a normie needs. Kinda like with websites.
Every normie uses less than a dozen of them, mostly through apps…
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 No.308448

>>306744
>>306273
>>306265
Eh. Really? You wanted to pursue a career in computers and electronics, but got into trouble? So did I. Tried to enroll into an uni, dropped out due to being unable to grasp the basics. Tried again. And then again. Ugh. My mom would shut me up had I tried to bring up the topic of changing careers.


Funniest thing is, I can afford my bread and butter though. But it has nothing to do with programming qua programming…

 No.308455

>>308445
>computer engineering
I'm actually pursuing the same degree. It's nice to know that someone else has the same ideals & interests.
>after trying to make it for five years
That's a long time for a Bachelor's degree. Did you at least receive a degree, even in another field?
>It was those IT gigs that really killed my spirit for the field.
Explain.
>where I live most apprentices start after school at 16-17 yo, I am a decade older than that.
Even for someone who has just left college after 5 years, that's still old. Did you take a gap year(s)?

 No.308456

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>>308455
>That's a long time for a Bachelor's degree. Did you at least receive a degree, even in another field?
Yes it's a long time. I started uni late because I switched schools in my final year and then had to wait for the new term to start and then redo the last couple of school years to get my diploma (that's just how it works here when you switch schools). So by the time I started uni I was almost 21 already. I did not finish my college degree, no. I basically just kept myself going through sunk-cost fallacy thinking and trying to gaslight myself into believing in that 100% remote job at the end of the tunnel.
>Explain.
Every IT gig I worked (by that I mean jobs in actual IT companies, not IT departments in normal companies, since those tend to be more tech support, office expert and what not) was some kind of demoralizing. I witnessed job cuts, outsourcing and offshoring. I saw people not working on cool technical problems but instead spend their days in Teams meetings, frustrated and exhausted like a boxer on the ropes. Most of the work is project management, clarifying and re-clarifying and changing requirements according to what the customer wants. Everyone was constantly frustrated and tired. Best case they had a kind of fatalistic humor about the whole thing and worst thing they just kept dredging along because they had families that relied on them for income. That was the future I was looking forward to if I stayed in that field I knew, but I also had already invested years into the degree so I was paralyzed and unable to just quit, making it worse semester by semester.

 No.308460

The average guy who has been successful has almost 99.99% of the time been helped by family or friends in someway. You have to make money to earn money. You typically cant just throw yourself out there and expect to succeed.

It's what you do with your resources and how you use them that make you survive.

 No.310021

>>308460
>family
The family pill is absolute.
Genetics, family, environment. Nothing else matters.



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 No.309114[Reply]

>The more I seclude myself the more I long for human connection
>The more I interact with the 3D world the more I just want to be left alone
I literally cannot win in this life
I am always worried about doing the wrong thing, I am always lamenting all of my errors of the past
I hardly actually live
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 No.309593

there.is no.middle ground

 No.309619

>>309584
Strange example, why would anyone get an overwhelming urge to touch a hot stove , anon?

 No.310015

I think most of us have gone through this. It's probably best to just respect our nature and place in the world, be a loner who gets by best he can.

 No.310016

>>309619
Im a different wizard, but I get that urge sometimes when I'm bored. Maybe I'm just dumb? I remember cutting my legs with razor blades as a kid often out of boredom - did it very softly but still spilled a lot of blood which made me decide I should do my whole leg and take photos of it to scare people into thinking Im crazy. cuts were only half a mm deep but bleed good, pain wise it only really hurt as it was healing the next day

 No.310017

>>309121
>tulpa
that can be dangerous, I have one and it makes me get into bad situations. Nothing crazy but it forces me to make comments about people who wrong me which can lead to concequences, I tried to control the personality of my tulpa but its been developing for over 10 years now and its totally out of my control. atleast we are both cordial with each other



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 No.305084[Reply]

>even the extrovert normalfags with an excellent social and sexual life are on multiple drugs and getting therapy
I'm absolutely done for, dude. Even my life improves, I'll still just be a monkey to the rest of them. Fuck.
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 No.309727

>>305279
>Looks like the Elite will finally have humans domesticated like cattle soon
I don't think so, they are buying into dumb scams like AI and identity politics. They can barely control and maintain the government, healthcare and educational systems themselves which they use to exercise power.

 No.309992

>>305084
covid buck broke large swaths of normies. my life didn't change at all. ive been completely isolated and alone since approx 2016.

ever since covid, it seems the powers that be just want things to get shittier and shittier. flock cameras, data centers, inflation, succubi killing their whole families.

its all contrived. i just stay away from people and stay on the periphery

 No.309993

The level of plutocrat apologia going on in this thread is pathetic. Very likely chatgpt gemerated as well. Sad!

 No.309997

>>309992
lol wasn't there a succubi in the UK who killed herself after like 4 days of lockdowns?? It has to be a mental illness to require such a constant amount of socializing

 No.310007

>>309997
yep. hypernormie faggots go insane in isolation.

Everyone in my city complains about how unsociable people are and i fucking love it. i don't want to be bothered at all



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 No.307023[Reply]

This is the classic "Suicide General", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards.

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>>296511
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 No.309758

Does anyone here have tinnitus? This might be what convinces me to end it. I can't even focus on my thoughts. It feels like I have lost an entire section of my brain. I can't sleep.

 No.309998

How likely am I to survive if I jump off a bridge 33 metres high? Could I at least lose consciousness on impact?

 No.309999

>>309998
Last time I jumped off a bridge, I died just fine. But it was 33.80 meters high, so your 33.00m bridge might be too short. Try it out and report back your findings.

 No.310000

>>308806
Don't bother with hanging, just build a charcoal gasifier and poison yourself with carbon monoxide. In a sealed room there is no chance you will survive.

 No.310001

>>309758
Yes have had it in my right ear for 5 years
I got wax removal done at the doctors recently and it went down by 75%
Feeling a lot less miserable
>>309758
>>309758



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 No.309747[Reply]

Sometimes I wish went to the mental hospital. Maybe things would’ve turned out differently. Maybe.
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 No.309923

>>309913
Yeah you're right. I get it, it's scary. Hell, I'd even say it's terrifying. But hey, look, if we do end up making an argument such as that one, wouldn't it also mean that regular doctors that treat diseases of your body aren't to be trusted either? Like, if you claim that modern psychiatry or psychotherapy is detrimental because just 80 years ago they would lobotomize people which is practically torture, doesn't that also mean you shouldn't trust regular doctors because there was a time when doctors would use bloodletting or mercury or radium to treat diseases? And again, don't take this the wrong way, I do realize what you're saying is practically true, but I need to know who out there can help you if you're depressed or have serious emotional pain in your life if this industry is not to be trusted. Are you then simply supposed to heal by finding like-minded people that get you and enjoy spending time with you or is the answer different

 No.309924

>>309912
how come you weren't able to refuse that treatment? how severe was your "outburst"?

 No.309978

>>309792
>I came to the conclusion that the main flaw of the mental health system is its tendency to suck you in

anyone who doubts this is possible: watch the interview tucker carlsson did with the 'professional patient', author Laura Delano:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PdWKkyooCk

 No.309995

The only benefit is how it makes it easier to get neetbux. Every other aspect is a nightmare

 No.309996

but maybe you can talk to a psychotherapist and he'll give you decent life advice or explain what exactly it is you're experiencing and going through and help you deal with it. especially if he's older than you or generally professional



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 No.309973[Reply]

Wiz, I really hate the way things are these days. You know how "brainrot" and cringe culture affect people now—my friends, my parents, and just daily life in general are all so annoying. The interactions between Gen Z and Boomers are getting weirder, and people in general are becoming stranger, which makes everyday life incredibly frustrating. What if history could repeat itself—like World War II—so that those forgetful Gen Zers and Boomers, and all the annoying people today, could finally realize just how terrifying a world war really is
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 No.309979

The kids are spending too much time on their phones. The west has fallen. Billions must die.

 No.309980

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There will probably be war and famine and mass die offs because it's what the graphs show, that human population has peaked like all of the economic bubbles we see today

Who will escape the coming purge?

 No.309981

>>309980
Only a handful of people can truly survive and adapt to warfare, and that is the reality of the purge cleansing away the rot of the modern era.

 No.309991

>>309975
>they will face execution
Probably by their own people at that, hopefully before the war actually starts.

 No.309994

Oh look, another one. So who ordered the invasion of wizchan with this nonsense? Talpiot program?



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 No.309759[Reply]

i keep wondering if all fiction could be unhealthy for the brain. human life is so short, a day has so few hours. how can you take one or more of these hours and flee to a place that doesn't exist and disconnect from your own reality.

places that don't exist have begun to repell me. my own reality has so many projects i would like to attend to that i feel gridlocked by not knowing what to do first. desire for fiction might be nothing but pure idleness.

i assume i understand the impulse, though i could be mistaken. when i was a child and were forced to attend child prison (school), the idea of no longer being able to explore the world at my own pace and instead had to spend time with the violent conformist was completely depressing. have them judge my intelligence based on how hard i could force myself to care what they thought was important in their desperate attempt to turn me into a mindless soldier and stomp all my dreams and interests in the process.

i'd flee into video games and at least videogames are interactive. in a video game i can make decisions, in school i was but an inmate without agency. but in a movie about a super hero, there is no interaction, the poor fool who watches this is but the passive recipient of centralized propaganda. i don't see how someone would accept this premise and spend time on this.
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 No.309984

>>309982
Fiction is a result of the ability to imagine what isn't. Reality is what is. So when you blindly indulge in reality you can't question anything.

 No.309985

>>309984
>So when you blindly indulge in reality you can't question anything.

i don't see reason to believe reality could be an indulgence. when i imagine the worst corrupt scum establishment mouthpiece like rachel madow insisting that the experimental for-profit covid gene therapy was safe and effective, she does so because she gets paid to say this and/or because she blackmailed into it. for her in her situation, reality would be an indulgence. but outside of corruption and evil, i don't see it.

and why can't you question things without fiction, because you are addicted to fiction and have to resort to it every 5 minutes like a phone addict, otherwise you scream because reality is so unbearable for your more louder personality-fragments?

 No.309986

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>>309984
i see this as just more communication in bad-faith happening in this thread. the necessary discomfort with this particular topic however can't drown out the loud absence of any valid ideas that would defend fiction as anything other then irresponsibility.

 No.309989

>>309970
>of the things you are guilty of,
this is literally just you projecting again.
go be a normalfag somewhere else, this board is not for normalfags.

 No.309990

>>309985
Wtf are you even talking about you make absolutely no sense.



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