/dep/ - Depression

>>302319
In my experience, crying also helps to release sadness, or even to try to let out the trapped emotion in my chest. After that, I'm tired and sleep for about half an hour. It's fairly effective, if you ask me.

>>302319
Sleeping helps. Of course, it's major avoidance but my bed is pretty much the only place on this world where I don't feel any sort of negative emotion. Stress, anxiety, sadness, it all melts away once I am under the covers and have closed my eyes. I have even begun enjoying the feeling of drifting in and out of consciousness when I set short alarms for afternoon naps and keep snoozing, like surfing the tide of unreality. Dreams are also usually the only place I actually feel positive emotion and when I do it tends to linger and keep me going for some part of the day after.
I think this strategy only works if you've trained your brain to associate your bed only with sleeping though. I've never been someone who spends any waking time in bed to read or consume content or whatever, so my physiological reaction is pretty robust.

>>303386
>Sleeping helps. Of course, it's major avoidance but my bed is pretty much the only place on this world where I don't feel any sort of negative emotion. Stress, anxiety, sadness, it all melts away once I am under the covers and have closed my eyes.

JEALOUS!!!

I can't fall asleep until some specific conditions (not too hot, not too bright yet not too dark) are met due to being both too fat and too large

The only thing I've found works recently is escapism. I've been watching a lot of movies and playing games where I can really immerse myself in the story like good CRPGs or challenging games like romhacks. It's a delicate balance though because I suck at games so playing something too hard will just make me feel worse.

I used to have other hobbies that helped (different types of exercise) but I've grown to just hate them all. It's a negative feedback loop because now I'm fat and out of shape so thinking about doing those things again just makes me sad because I suck so much.

>>302319
not fapping

>>303511
You need to be alone else you risk this >>303512 they literally force feed you tying you to the bed with an IV

>>296511
So I bought an Helium tank last week and tried to see how it would work: it was bad.
It lasted 10 minutes and I had to open the valve more two times to make it last those 10 minutes (the tank loses pressure, after a while nothing comes out of it anymore and you obviously can't keep opening it while unconscious)
I've already thought to buy more tanks but if they do not last enough time all it will do is just a permanent brain damage.
So what's the solution?

Anyway, helium is great, it really tastes of nothing and it probably is the best method if you manage to make it work properly.
The last party lol

>>303526
Be careful using helium meant for balloons. It may be mixed with oxygen to prevent asphyxiation. You're better off using nitrogen. Find the forum >>303381 mentioned, there's a guide there on inert gas asphyxiation.

>>303529
an old copy pasta, from i dont remember where:

Charcoal method. Hibachi chimney starter, premium charcoal as in briquettes, not lumpwood. The quality briquettes have a bit less carbon content, however they smoulder for longer + are easier to light.
Light the charcoal *only* with the chimney starter, not lighter fluid.
this ensures briquettes that'll burn at the same rate nicely.
You'll want the charcoal to be fully white, which takes a good 25 minutes or maybe even twice that amount of time.
When ready, dump em over in a portable charcoal grill. Dont cover it with the lid and remember the charcoal needs to be turned fully white. Now move in with your favored drink or benzo and pass out. Or wait 20 minutes before going into the enclosed space like a well sealed tent.

Location is important of course.
Dont do this in an apartment complex.
There are carbon detectors all over the place + it may risk others.
Other options are: rental minivan,
tents needs a flysheet build into the groundsheet to avoid air gaps. Look for a tent with a HH rating of 3000mmhh or more.. this is a measure of waterproofness. You dont want the heat from the grill to melt the tent, so one big enough for 3-4 persons is better. Place the grill on bricks and lay an extra layer around the edge. This is required, otherwise the tent floor may melt.
Only use a brand new grill, do not cook food with it. it would ruin the whole ritual. Supposedly carbon poisoning will byspass your survival instinct, just knocking you out, however using benzo such as xanax, valium, antivan, or klonopin mixed with strong alcohol should knock you out fast.

>>303527
> Find the forum >>303381 mentioned, there's a guide there on inert gas asphyxiation.
You mean the one that just the other day was ousted as being a troll honeypot ran by negro "femcels"?

>>303518
Most genius is autism combined with a moderate amount of psychopathy. Turns out inventive genius isn't really from the most cognitively talented, but simply the most alienated from the human experience and the most obsessive.

Elon Musk is a lolcow autist that completely makes an ass of himself, but he does well because he is both arrogant and hyper-fixates to an absurd degree.

>>303519
Absolute nonsense. Autism is not at all genius. Autism is and always will comparable to Down's syndrome. If you want an all-encompassing word to prescribe to smart decisions and not being a braindead normalfag, invent a new one instead of flipping 'autism' on its head. Elon Musk isn't an autist - he has a weird personality, an addiction to mind-altering drugs, and enough money and sexual endeavors for the cameras to always be on him. Elon is just a horny nerd who made some smart business decisions. But I'm sure to an idiot who takes self-degrading memes seriously, any guy who isn't glowing with movie star energy 24/7 is an "autist". You could point the camera at any human on Earth and in no long while see them do something that "proves they're an autist (JUST LIEK ME OMG)".

>Elon Musk is a lolcow autist that completely makes an ass of himself
When does he make an ass of himself? In spite of him having a distinct personality, he really doesn't do anything that could come off as "milkable" as some faggot in to lolcow culture might say. He did have a drug-induced meltdown when his precious H1B Indians got the boot, but that only culminated in a few angry Twitter posts.

>>303521
Elon Musk has dedicated threads on every lolcow website laughing at him and calling him a cow.

Many of the researchers that focus in on genius do comment on how most of them appear moderately autistic. Edward Dutton being one such person.

Is this doomerism or actually an attempt at online bullying and sadism on your part? I don't have a horse in this race, I don't give a fuck because I'm not a genius. But I do take fault with someone spreading lies and misconceptions so aggressively. Your full on aggression makes me think it's a trolling thing. If it's not trolling, there's no need to spike your blood pressure like that so pointlessly. Relax man.

Living without social connections and acceptance is a slow form of drowning in an ocean - similar to solitary confinement, my life was destined to be like this, you can preach self improvement but it's just delaying the inevitable, like trying desperately to not drown in the middle of Point Nemo.

I'm sickened and ashamed of even being alive, life is almost infinitely more painful than the tiniest sparse moments of fleeting pleasure - like specs of glitter amidst the grand canyon of despair. I wasted my life and there's nothing I can do to get it back. I self improve relentlessly, and it does nothing to improve my mood when the night descends and my despair rises to the surface - I feel like I can burst into tears almost every night, even sometimes during the day when my numbness recedes.

You ever see videos of normalfags coalescing? they seem so content and peaceful. That's truly the best feeling, something people spend their entire lives chasing man - being socially accepted is better than any drug or feeling.

>>303466
>>303451
I might just create one myself, never got round to replying to some of the posts in that thread.

Even though the threads are slow enough that they literally take months, it seems like the only place where you can talk about the general state of outcasts (most of the time). Everywhere else seems to spin out of control.

>>303446
>New age books
I dont have that much new age books, im not into that but i have some ritual-mid fluffbunny thing if you want.

>Spells for Good Times Kerri Connor
It have good affirmations, rituals, tips and thing and sound very wholesome sometimes (no, its not a wiccan succubi feminist book) but yeah sometimes these books give the vibe fluff of "witchcraft" or wathever.

>The other books (woo woo and old traditional magic)
I have those books, but I don't think it's necessary to share them here. What I've already shared here is enough.

>>303398
>Anxiety, relaxation and cope techniques
If you're only interested in relaxation and anxiety control techniques, just read these posts and PDFs.

>Scientific approach
>>303399 (box breath)
>>303404 (somatic exercises)
>>303403 (Vagus nerve stimulation in various ways)
>>303453 (introduction to self-scientific hypnosis CBT model, even hypnosis is a form of meditation)
>>303457 (AvPD library with a lot of techniques for anxiety and relaxation, cope techniques and alternatives techniques)

>The more meditation way
>>303401 (Metta)
>>303400 (Kasina, and some other meditation as reference)
>>303402 (Mantra and silence focus)
>303406 (Grounding technique)

Ask me anything you want if you have any question.
>Also
Here's again the cope skills book. The Avpd library have a lot of these type.
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>>303398
That's all.
if i find something worth to sharing i will share here.

Personally I have two main strategies to deal with stress:
1. My cat. When he lays on my lap or next to me on the couch I always feel relaxation and calm very fast.
2. Isolate in room, make it dark, close curtains, lay down, complete silence, close my eyes and put myself in some fantasy world and try to avoid any thoughts regarding the real world blending it off as not existing. Bonus points if falling asleep like that.

>>303481
>1. My cat. When he lays on my lap or next to me on the couch I always feel relaxation and calm very fast.
Cat whispers sounds and warm they give are a nice relaxation stim, when i alone, i sing to them like if there babys (yeah sound cringe but its a vugus nerve exersice maybe same as hugs)
Try Blink slowly to them, this nake them happy crazy its like a hug of confidence and love to them, dont do it to much sometimes they become little exalted or feared if you keep too much visual contact.
>2. Isolate in room, make it dark, close curtains, lay down, complete silence, close my eyes and put myself in some fantasy world and try to avoid any thoughts regarding the real world blending it off as not existing. Bonus points if falling asleep like that.
Curtains down for dark is good but let your place stay fresh in air every day. There' you say something interesting
>lay down, complete silence, close my eyes and put myself in some fantasy world and try to avoid any thoughts regarding the real world blending it off as not existing.
This is close to a Magick-Visualization-Meditation-Hypnosis techniques.
All techniques are related or same.

>Pathwork (by controlling mind -famous around ceremonial magician and magick)
Basically you make up a paracosm or fantasy world and try control it like a escenary or threatise, used in some hermetic Kabbalah practices (There's a rumor Tolkien used something like this)

>Active imagination (Jung)
by let imagination do random and not control it, swedenborg and Jacob Bohme have same or similar technique. Just let the mind play.

>Guided meditation (similar to hypnosis or same as focus)
if you use videos or sound or your voice trying to evoke sensations or places

>Guided Hypnosis (videos or do yourself with your voice and body gestures focusing)
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all i say is death to sex-havers

triggered all the normniggers with this thread

>>303495
you are angry because you wanted to be mentally and physically enslaved to roasties?
why? are you retarded?
this shit never made sense to me. like how can someone yearn for slavery so much?
do you really believe your life would be better if you were a mealticket for some roastie?
lol

You would like browsing r/antisex, OP.

What really pisses me off is how actually sexist it is in general. It's like a fucking passive. when succubi aren't directly sexist to us vocally, they do it "casually" by their presence alone if I say "Not really interested/don't care at all." or when you, god forbid, you have lots of hobbies. 3 goddamn decades of:

"Bro, we gotta get you pussy."
"Why aren't you married?"

Like, ok, let's say I do the deed, get "intimate" or whatever? is that gonna stop me from playing video games? reading goddamn Flash or something? I don't care about your snatch.

>>303176
Real sunlight is more of a mood enhancer than the D3 pills. For example don't be in a dark room all the time, that will make you go crazy.

>>303210
Proper nutrition and a diet which gives the body everything it could possibly use for cognition is not bullshit you twink.
>>303214
More random English words chained together to form nonsense.

>>303176
Just ordered supps. Since I don't go outside very much (and when I do it's usually during sun rise or when it's overcast) I suspect my vitamin D is low, and if not it will be with the coming winter. Omega 3 too, since I read it is supposed to also help with depression/anxiety and general brain function. Maybe I just wasted money but if there's a chance it will help me feel better I'll try it.

>>303428
Good!

Makse sure you have a glass handy, and take your supplements according to the instructions (95% of which simply say stuff like "during meal")

>>303415

ah

>>303210

Reminder people who can sunbathe in warm climate (Texas/Mexican border, Medit3rranian islands like Ibiza and so on) may think vitamin D supplement does nothing to them all while a person who lives in a city near Polar Circle (Oslo, Helsinki, St.Petersburg and such) may suffer depression from vitamin D deficiency alone

>>299257
the one good thing about christianity is its almost the only way you get actual volcel chads. like actual football jock virgins.

sure its only temporary, and they eventually want to get married and breed. but its better than nothing.

>>303373
>The one good thing about Christianity is how it delays strong White men from procreating while young.
Shut up, kike.

>>303374
if you think a delay is bad, i cant imagine what you think of a permanent denial like wizchan

take 10 mg oral minoxidil or more daily

1mg finasteride a day will keep the balding away.

>>303408
Although, come to think of it, I should not really blame a person initially born with psychopathy in this very "I don't *feel* what do you mean" sense. And my father *may be this very kind of person* - unironically not being sensitive, thus "dumb" in terms of emotional intelligence.

Don't psychopaths have cognitive empathy? They understand what's going on - they just don't care. What they're missing is affective empathy.

>>303427
>Don't psychopaths have cognitive empathy?

Cognitive… empathy? Sounds like a name for an empathy substitute (in the same sense as "soy milk" is "milk")

>They understand what's going on - they just don't care. What they're missing is affective empathy.

Smart mathy person (and a 6'3" absolute unit of a bloke), yeah, but when it comes to *feelings*, he's a massive "I don't care" meathead. He's blind to the *vibe* of relief or such. So every time I sigh in relief he reall has to ask me "WHY are you SIGHING?!?!"

He has the life experience to process regular, normal" emotions, but he is completely blind to serious dramatic moments of a small fella's life. Therefore, every time I have a strong emotion - and don't have the COMPOSURE to mask it… one more SNAFU moment happens.



>What they're missing is affective empathy.
Every time he said something important and I was all like "phew! Thanks!" he would only start asking WHY I just made this funny noise of gasp/sigh in relief.

>>303430
You have to remember 10% of the population has alexithymia or is mind blind in other words they have no theory of mind and cannot comprehend other people have thoughts and feelings as well.

>>303431
>You have to remember 10% of the population has alexithymia

Ah. Thanks. Truly, I needed that information.

The site has never been even close to majority 30+. If you actually hit 30, you've earned your stripes. I turn 29 in 3 days, and I haven't felt the itch to post regularly for years. People forget that the expected lifespan for a male virgin is probably not the same as it is for an average person.

They called it 'crisis' for a reason. Mine also hit at 30, but I was too broke to buy a Mustang or get hair plugs or whatever. I ended up diving back into hobbies from my 20's but found that stuff hollow and unfulfilling. I'm just glad I only wasted $500 on comic books and some car audio nonsense happened.

>>297753
I find that missing a night of sleep helps anhedonia. NO fucking clue why. and it doesn't keep working (missing two nights of sleep in a row doesn't continue it). Wouldn't recommend doing it a lot.

Some drugs help but they always stop working once you build tolerance and then they never work well again I find

Other than i don't know. setting goals doesn't help in fact I would recommend against forcing yourself to do stuff you don't find enjoyable. It's like how trying to force yourself to sleep actually makes insomnia worse. You just end up associating frustration with the activity you want to do.

Life with anhedonai feels pointless. No pleasure, no point? Like why do anything. I just end up doing nothing

>>297753
I have found out eating 5-htp sometimes + consuming tyrosine-rich foods (kasha, bananas) helps me.


Context: seronotin is made of 5-htp in body

dopamine is made of

>>297753
Amphetamines and cold showers

>>302012
>>302012
>dopamine is made of
tyrosine


also, I asked PerPLX AI to rework my text in "Crowdon Londoner" style:
Bruv, you know there’s bare tyrosine in bananas and buckwheat, innit? And listen — buckwheat porridge, slap a bit o’ gravy on, that hits different. Proper jokes though, ‘cause it’s like the stuff don’t even wanna be porridge in the first place!

>>297753
I tried drinking fuckton of coffee ever since. Did NOT work properly. Allows me to function in some half-hearted/half-assed way (aka posting stuff on Wizardchan instead of doing my work… bak to werk methinks…)