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 No.303398[Reply]

The sole purpose of this post is to share the techniques and books I have accumulated over time to achieve relaxation and other things.
I have read about meditation, magic, ceremonial magic, chaotic and postmodern magic, anxiety therapies, and relaxation techniques. This thread is not a cure for all problems. I don't want to turn this into a blogspot, so feel free to ask whatever you want.
>Also
Remember that you can also search for the techniques I mention on the internet, on YouTube, or on WikiHow, where you can find help on how to perform these techniques and more tips.
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 No.305413

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Vent your room

Keep a mixtapeful of cozy cute music to relax IN A DEDICATED DEVICE. Bonus points for making said device solid in look and with a separate pair of earbuds (and old celly/smary would be ok)

Wear earplugs to block out elevator machine's sudden hum
OR
play some quiet "background music" as in OG Muzak Orchestra from 1950s-1960s-1970s
OR
use you old boombox as a white noise generator

 No.305823

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>>305395
I started with LIRP and LIRH.
Everything feel good, i stopped fapping.
I feel ok.
I started to taking some Sunlight in a beach near here.
i have some sunburn now lol.
>Also
I just did LIRP and LIRH for three or four days, later i started with lirp-lirh morning and lbrp-lbrh at night before bed.
sometimes i just lirp-lirh, banishment its kinda unnesesary to me, but if i have intrusive thoughts it can help with it.
>Also of also
I need to learn MP AKA Middle pillar maybe but i dont have much interest for now.

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>>305823
I mostly memorized LRP and LRH.
I stopped doing it, sometimes i do it bacause i have the feeling to do it.
Never learned Middle pillar but i still like the PMR technique for body relaxation, maybe its the same in some way.
Now i have more interest in Self-Hypnosis but sometimes i like doing ritual things.
This post can be helpful for some wizard with interest in magick and hypnosis.
Maybe one of these days i gonna try the Prometheus Rising practices, its like you need to know some or have some experience of hypnosis and magic and some books of RAW to have the mindset of robert anton wilson to make the book techniques work for you.

 No.307339

>>305823
>i stopped fapping.

>>307338
could these be related?
cus when i'm in the "nothing is magick" i'm always just binging on porn/games/youtube

but then i can reach other phases of life where it's the opposite; everything is alive, i'm fully controlling my libido into creative projects without feeling that itch to fap it away

idk this is just clicking for me now, in the current depths of a depressive episode and i kinda wanna get out again but I'm not quite out of the apex of this cycle's swing…

 No.307343

>>307339
>could these be related?
A lot of old ceremonial magicians in books to post-modern ones have a motif into sex or fap.
Papus says 50 days of no-sexual activity no-fap for initiation into magic
Crowley in some way say the same
RAW say 50 days of nofap no sex
Other old ones say 45 days or similar
I dont know but from papus to today anyone of these guys actually never relate nofap or nosex activity to some form of vitalistic force or something, papus and later oned were kinda empirical maybe. Not like the chinese or some new age meme common schizo says myth around nofap.
You can try, in a way 50 days of nofap is a entry to magic in some old text (papus, crowley, etc) maybe related to discipline
For RAW was a… i dont know, a magic secret or something.



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 No.307315[Reply]

When I was young I used to indulge in escapism by imagining a new life where everything goes right and I have no problems, but now when I think of it I simply see nothing. There is no possible path for things to go right, every single case and scenario would bring me to suffer.

I guess it's because I became more experienced and understood that everything has a counter-effect and that I was simply focusing on the things that happened to me. For example, I have very protective, obsessed and generally loser (in the normie sense) parents who were watching my every move and spoil me because to them I was the only thing that was validating their need to have a meaning. But even if I had paremts who let me do whatever I wanted, it still wouldn't have fixed my inner problems and all the change would have been swapping the surface problems for others.

At this point it's like a puzzle, trying to connect all the pieces in a way that everything would go smoothly. But even if I give myself endless liberty, like being born a billionaire with perfect health, I still can't solve it. In fact, I have come to the point of trying to change physical laws to see if it could work (not having to eat/sleep etc.) and I still can't do it. Existence is pain and pain is existence, it looks like. Truly, the perfect life is to never be born.

What do you guys think? Do you have an idea of a good life you could have been living if you rolled the dice the right way at birth?
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 No.307324

I don't know. I have been thinking there is something in those anime where an underdog idol or sports team reach the show climax of surpassing expectations and achieving their dreams. There is a catharsis in there even if the viewers don't care about idols, sports, revenge or whatever macguffin the show is about. Come to think of it, all catharsis stories are the same. It's people achieving things they want. Maybe it's really that simple. Feeling good is just wanting something and then getting it with perhaps some reasonable challenges overcome.

 No.307325

>>307315
I think it's a sign that you must move on in your life and take some responsabilities.

 No.307326

I think I played that game, but for whatever reason, I never thought about how external circumstances could be different, it was always me that was different. My particular fantasy was, and perhaps still is, one where I was completely undisturbed by the things happening around me, endlessly competent, calm, at peace. Rather than imagining myself as being accepted by others, I always imagined a state where I could simply not care and never feel shame or envy. Rather than having endless amount of money, I always imagined living a frugal life where I can escape the rat race. Rather than a sexy gf, I wanted to be a voluntary celibate that has no such needs.

 No.307336

You can't visualize happiness because you aren't happy, just like a blind person can't visualize sight

 No.307342

I guess reaching some kind of state where you have real freedom. Health allows you to use your body without troubles. Money gives freedom from basic things like shelter, being able to neet, welfare dependency and so on. Deciding what you think is real after a lot of intellectual activities gives you a certain insight in how this world works which gives a certain freedom.
Basically a happy life for me would be where I could just do what I want. (within reasonable limits ofcourse)
Anything less and i'd rather hang myself (which I actually plan on doing).



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 No.303736[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

You will still be stuck browsing this thread in 2026 edition

previous>>296811
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 No.307196

>>307186
I didn't think people would mind seeing as that's what most of this thread is. I always thought it was pretty interesting reading about what goes on in the lives of other wizards like the guy washing dishes. Of course questions like "What's it like working as _" are good too.

 No.307207

back to office… remote work ended

 No.307224

>>303790
Update: I quit that job. A co worker was stabbed and I decided I'm not risking that. It's literally slightly over min wage which doesn't amount to anything given the stress involved. It's also either extremely boring or extremely stressful. Sometimes I have to stand for 3 hours + straight in the same area directing customers who either don't listen or don't even speak the native languages of my country. Every 10 minutes feels like an hour. When it's not boring is when I'm forced to follow a thief in the store and note down what they're stealing so we can build a case on them, the issue is I'm in uniform so they notice me and often want to fight me. I don't even have a flashlight, and we have "stab" proof vests from Temu that my boss showed me he could poke a hole through with a pen if he stabbed hard enough. He calls himself the John Wick of "company name". I'm out, not sure what I'll do next as it's so hard to find work

 No.307226

>>307224
good call, even if the problem isn't some crackhead attempting to maim you because you caught him stealing a piece of gum, the boredom will. no joke

>Every 10 minutes feels like an hour.


no joke, this would drive you to insanity or at least it has been with me, to the point i just fantasize slitting my throat in front of the workplace or for your case, your local hobo would lovingly do it for you.

hope you find a new job sooner or later wizard

 No.307341

>>306528
I remember you. At least you recognise it for what it is. Just soul crushing tedium. Being deceived that it has any purpose or meaning in this society is a pathetic state.


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 No.307210[Reply]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.

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 No.307327

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I can't put up with so much pression and violence from this world. It's too much for me

 No.307328

>>307313
>I am nothing but a wretched pile of flesh
I don't agree on a technicality, I don't believe you are your body. This doesn't take away this existence in this society is absurdly painful, bitter and characterised by meaningless suffering.

 No.307332

im trying to quit weed cus it was starting to make me feel gross and sick and coughing phlegm more often…so im trying to quit but the feeling they were helping to suppress are just coming back up and idk what to do. So now i'm trying to do things raw but eating feels gross and my stomach hurts and Idk if i want to deal with all of the shit I've been avoiding. Depression fuckin sucks. And i've been gaming for 8-10 hours every day to fast forward time and that's not working anymore either… so it's hard to think about passing full fucking 12-16 hours of consciousness tomorrow without anything…

 No.307333

crawl…

 No.307340

Sometimes I feel like I don't want anything but subsistence just a home and cheap entertainment.
No dreams, no family, no achievements, It all feels like fucking vanity and shit to me. I just hope I'm not lying to myself out of some coping mechanism, I just can't tell.



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 No.307205[Reply]

This thread is for talking about OCD, addictions, or those kinds of disorders that ruined our lives
>So
When I was a kid, I had some pretty OCD-like behavior—I’d touch things and check them over and over until I felt reassured that everything was okay. I also used to walk on my tiptoes, which is a bit autistic, but I eventually stopped doing that (I don’t know if I have autism at this point bacause never did a test, but whatever).
>So what’s up with you?
Well, in my case is limerence (some studies say is co-related to OCD)
>And what’s that like?
Well, imagine a succubi (for some people even can be the other sex you dont like) talks to you and treats you kindly once or twice, and then you start getting way more than just nervous around her because your body starts releasing dopamine, serotonin, and all that shit. And since you don’t know what’s going on, you think you like her or have fallen in love, but its NOT.
really it’s just fucking anxiety toward a “thing.” Because you’re constantly seeking validation in some way—whether for friendship, attention, or love but you have this anxiety that you know is inappropriate, and if you act on it, the feeling of danger gets worse, it’s almost like you’re having a heart attack. and as time pass the thing got worst and worst and you get more obsessive, nerveous and get a peak of anxiety, even start to rumiate or have that thing of limerence (LO) living rent free in your head bacause your brain cant stop thinking about your LO
>What was the worst experience you've ever had?
Even you will end starting to dream with the LO and have happy dreams or nightmares and waking up crying bacause you are getting the peak of anxiety and dopamine,etc sec before waking up. this shit can even ruin friendship.
>Why the hell does this happen?
I don’t know, genetics, anxiety, depression, emotional dependency, low self-steem, negligent parents, love hungry, maybe OCD etc and a whole lot of shit
>You're larping this nonsense
but in my case, it’s not like those internet memes of bitch tumblr succubi where it only happens once and they use like a joke for love or crush
>You're a retard and you fall in love go fuk yourself wizard
No, no it’s happened to me constantly over the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.307321

>>307270
It doesn't have to be like that wizard. The key to freedom from ocd is to stop fighting.

 No.307329

>>307282
>>307321
its over for me. im in outpatient treatment 5 days a week and get drunk everyday after. im paranoid and have the worst obsessive thoughts. now its time for my 3rd busch light

 No.307330

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>>307205
>around her because your body starts releasing dopamine,

you wouldn't have that if you knew how to make yourself happy. it is you releasing the dopamine that is already in your body. if you knew how to make yourself happy, you wouldn't need the other person to be the key to unlock your happiness.

i also experienced this when i was younger because i was in school were happiness is 'treated' as a problem and you learn it is better not to be happy. this is the seed of corruption. by training you to be unhappy, you become an emotional puppet. regain your strengh man and unlock yourself through meditation.

 No.307331

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I can never enjoy a moment to its full extent. I can never relax. I can never truly feel at rest. I have Tourettic (also known as Just Right) OCD and Pure O OCD, which are the worst kinds to have IMO. CBT doesn't work for these types. And I would rather die than get on meds. I feel like Sissyphus, I am constantly performing labor, every moment of my life. Except unlike Sissyphus I can't crush my head with the boulder. I am my slave and my master. Not even drugs relieve me from it. Sometimes it gets to a point where wearing shoes feels like torture (without any trace of hyperbole) because I sometimes get a compulsion where I need to wriggle all of my toes five times. I inherited this disorder and hypothetically if I were able to get married and have kids I may very well choose not to because I don't want people to experience this burden.
This is hell. I am so exhausted. It started when I was a kid and just rapidly accelerated from there. I didn't know that I was experiencing the last peaceful moments of my life. I never knew peace again. There is no escape aside from death.

 No.307337

>>307273
>I appreciate your understanding Wiz
I don't think I understand OCD. Seems like certain compulsions literally take you over from time to time. Some normie with a healthy brain would probably believe something like this isn't possible or it is exagerated. Going through bizarre mental stuff myself I am inclined to believe OCD is real.
>I can't imagine how awful that must be
I hear a voice in my head which constantly comments on my thoughts, but isn't some kind of dream or fantasy. I have zero control what it says and can't turn it off. I can interact with it like it is a different person. I can clearly sense the difference between my thoughts and these voices. Only other schizophrenics seem to understand how this ruins your life.
>there's no treatment for this other than what they offer for OCD
I don't know what they offer for OCD but antipsychotics don't cure anything, they just tranquilize your entire nervous system.



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 No.307294[Reply]

always no matter what happens set backs always set me back. and my goals arent that fucking unreasonable either. Change my habits, or enjoy a fucking game. and something major happens to set me back. not only am I scared to change im exausted about constantly being worried about what price im about to pay for that slight moment of enjoyment. its like the default setting for me in this life is to be miserable and useless, anything good going for me has to be double the price of bad luck to throw me back to square one. Nothing but bad luck. im just so frustrated.

 No.307299

if it's not working, then just stop trying, wiz. are there any areas of your life where things actually do go smoothly and feel effortless? put your energy towards these things, double down on them, even if your parents/society thinks it's lame or bad for you. you can't succeed the way they're telling you to, you have to find your own path. don't worry about how it's going to make you money or earn you normalfag respect, if you put in consistent time/effort into these things, not only will it feel rewarding, you'll be better off in the long-term anyway than succeeding in what others tell you to.

 No.307307

>>307299
I tried to find it but it always ends up in a situation its hard to recover from. maybe im just not ment to do anything

 No.307334

Same. In fact it's worse for me, as my life has been fucked by very unlikely coincidences several times now. Maybe I am jinxed or something.

 No.307335

>>307299
this is good advice

the first part is to highlight the stop trying part. Not that this is the final step, but it's the first step to finally relaxing and then figuring out what you actually wanna do

(A) It sounds like changing habits is really difficult for you right now (what habits/ what are you replacin with?)

(B) And also enjoying a game sounds difficult because you're probably feeling too guilty or stressed because of (A)…. "Losers don't get to enjoy things"



Try just lowering the bar until you can do (A) and (B). Can you…. make your bed first thing in the morning, and allow yourself to enjoy something? YOu can start small. Try *ENJOYING* some food or drink consciously as a reward for doing (A), and slowly retrain your brain that (A) -> (B) is okay, allowed, and you deserve it even if (A) wasn't perfect every time



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 No.306545[Reply]

I am not even that horny, a lot of the days I force my self to do it while not even being in the mood for it, it's just the most effective way for me to cope, masturbation is free, gives you instant pleasure and can burn for you many hours at the time, there are times when i find my self touching myself just so I can use it as a way to distract my self for my anxieties and negative thought loops, as soon as i start touching myself all my anxiety and negative emotions start to dissolve as much as i hate and it hate how much i overdo it, i can't deny it makes getting through my days easier when i can just touch my self for many hours instead of just sitting there being miserable feeling hollow bored to tears and empty or anxious and overthinking at worse, my point here is that I believe the addiction for me is a mere sympotom, something I use to escape my negative feelings and the emptiness of my daily life, thanks for reading my blogpost
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 No.307314

>>306545
Porn addiction is not a serious condition. The authors of the DSM rejected it due to the absence of operational diagnostic criteria (in fact, the only behavioral addiction that is recognized in the DSM-5 is gambling addiction).
Society as a whole validates that decision, as we liberally diagnose anyone who is both in a tough spot in life, while indulging in porn to cope as having a "porn addiction". Not helping is the number of e-celebrities talking about their own porn addiction or giving guru-esque advice on how to beat porn addiction.

In fewer words, overindulgence in a coping mechanism does not make an addiction by itself.
You could argue that it may be a poor coping mechanism, but the risk vs. benefits calculation is something everyone has to figure out for themselves.

 No.307316

>>307314
>Porn addiction is not a serious condition
Tell that to my flatlined dick and total anhedonia because of beating my meat to hard this month. It is a horrible dopamine burner.

 No.307317

>>307316
What have you tried besides jerking your cock?

 No.307319

>>307316
>Tell that to my flatlined dick and total anhedonia because of beating my meat to hard this month.
High tolerance is not sufficient for an addiction diagnosis.

 No.307322

>>307319
>High tolerance
>Just do heroin in moderation
It is impossible.

>>307317
Vitamin supplements and working out, for instance.



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 No.307023[Reply]

This is the classic "Suicide General", where we discuss methods and say farewell to our fellow wizards.

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 No.307263

>>307261
good luck

 No.307285

tried to block my carotid artery with my fingers to see how it will feel, it is like if you were drugged for 5 seconds, literal state of confusion,whatever you were thinking is immediately gone, whatever noise you hear sounds robotic in a way, feeling the coldness covering your head the same way that you accidentally turn on the cold water in a shower, tried to pass out but i always wound up so confused on what's going on that the pressure exerted lightens up and blood circulation returns again

highly likely am going to hang myself in the next two months and getting the taste of how it feels like having stones taking off your ever more weakened back

 No.307288

Can we not post random erotic images here? Fuck that

 No.307290

>>307288
ah shit my bad, that wasn't my intention at all, literally the only image i have

 No.307310

As an efilist this is something I'm extremely concerned with, the idea that consciousness will continue indefinitely and will reappear in some worse condition than it was before dying.



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 No.301262[Reply]

It's Saturday night and I started taking a new antidepressant called Mirtazapine (15mg) on Thursday night.

This is my 10th or so attempt at a psychiatric medication. I've tried lots of therapy too.

Wish me luck anonymages. I was about to quit my job but watched some motivational videos on autoplay on Youtube for hours and as cheesy as it was, they convinced me to give this a go.

I didn't even get these prescribed recently. It was way back last year and then I just didn't take them because this particular medicine has a reputation for making people really fatigued.

It does put me to sleep. But, maybe that's ok. If it means I can find some happening apart from fapping and dreaming while I sleep.

Maybe it'll even help me turnaround my fortunes at work where it looks like I'm sliding towards a firing or just being unable to come in. Barely stopped myself raging at my boss the other day and took 2 weeks sick leave from stress afterwards. I need to swallow some humble pie come Monday and hopefully these pills help. Being off work for 2 weeks showed me I'm just as miserable and actually more so depressed, anxious and stressed not working despite all the antiwork slogans I collect.
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 No.306224

>>306223
I know. I even knew it was poison. But I was in a dark place, very young, and didn't have enough life experience to realize how much this stuff could destroy me. And most of all, I wanted to make my mother happy.
>They might have status or credentials but they are still human and as such you can never trust their intentions until you've proven them.
You are very correct.

 No.306225

>>306148
Didn't mean to sound so dramatic. I hate crabs and their brain dead ideas. The truth is that I could never kill a human being.

 No.306999

>>306219
>Stopped working out and eating healthy, I am slowly rotting and have no more will because my situation doesn't seem like it will ever get better. If it improves, that will be in many years.

It’s perfectly okay to feel this way sometimes. You don’t have to feel bad for feeling this way. However there exists no objective logical ground for you to have imposed this conclusion on yourself as a sort of certain fatalistic sentence. In my own case, I managed to (mostly, ~95%) cure my pssd within about 1.5 years of its on-set. I feel that you should be able to do the same if you remain diligent in your diet and (just as importantly) trusting in your private mind that you can be bettered and ultimately returned wholly to where you were before the ingestion of ssris.

>What do you think of TRT, reinstatement… or something else? I have been told to do keto diet. I really feel like the best thing would be to microdose shrooms, lsd


I don’t think your problems are related to circulating levels of sex hormones, especially not at your age. I know after having taken ssris and encountering genital impotence and anesthesia that my own serum levels of testosterone were essentially unchanged from the year before (suggesting that the drug had not materially altered them). I cannot speak to “microdosing shrooms” as this seems near totally impertinent to the restoration of a former normal chemical balance within your brain; if anything I would imagine introducing heavy psychogenic drugs like shrooms would only further confuse an already-confused neurochemistry.

But as to what I do think might be helpful:

1. Recall that prozac being a fluoride-based ssri will particularly lower blood levels of folate (vitamin B9). In addition to everything I already recommended above in earlier posts, I would like to advise you to make sure you are getting sufficient amounts of folate into your body everyday (preferably through a well-made and well-reviewed B-complex supplement). This will combat the likely chronic folate-lowering effects of the offending drug.

“Depressed individuals often exhibit low levels of serum and red blood cell folate.”

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 No.307049

>>306999
good advice and nice digits

 No.307254

>>306219
You still here?



 No.301895[Reply]

Starting a new anti-suicide general as the original has been bump-locked.

Helping wizards to understand that persuasive feelings of suicide can be bested.

Further the discursive spirit of this thread will remain the same as the first: to counter the general luring tenor of sadness that defines all the other threads through sharing positive practical advice purposed to reducing suicidal behavior even when we feel most suicidal. Naturally, being that I started the topic, I will be the first to contribute.

(1) Know that I care about you guys deeply and sincerely. Call me a faggot, I don't care (many have already done this, to no worthwhile avail)
(2) Examine what you are eating. For example, gluten especially produces depressive/psychotic episodes in sensitive autistic individuals. Sugar also is not healthy for your brain. Delimiting ingestion of both is wise.
(3) Make sure you are getting sufficient sleep. Chronic sleeplessness or even a few days' worth of irregular sleep can seriously interfere with the clarity of our thinking.
(4) Clean up. Taking a warm shower and putting on fresh clean clothes always is refreshing and helps to break up darkened mental habits.
(5) Breathe fresh air. Open whichever windows punctuate your room and allow some wind to come in.
(6) Watch your breathing. When we are panicked, our breathing can become very disordered and we do not recognize the effect this has on our thinking. Take deep, purposeful breaths, and collect your thoughts.
(7) Respect yourself. You have done your best to survive in an awful world, and you should grant yourself forgiveness for any mistakes and the allowance to rest with a composed and balanced mind.

I've done my part. Anyone else?
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 No.306247

>>304793
Do you follow this diet?

 No.306619

>>305499
Any authentically calm space will do. You don't always need to be on the floor to meditate, you know.

 No.306994

>>306619
Being outside is excellent for meditation. I actually like to vary my spots. What is your favorite?

 No.306997

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WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE

WITH SOARING EYES

 No.307253

>>306994
under large remote trees is a spot i enjoy for meditating.



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