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 No.305048[Reply]

I’ve started describing myself as antinatalist, but when I’m honest, it’s not really about humanity as a whole, it’s personal. I don’t feel like my life should have been created, and that distinction matters to me. I’m pro-choice in the broad sense, but that belief also extends inward. I think autonomy shouldn’t stop at birth. For me, it’s less about hating existence and more about questioning why continuing to exist is treated as an unquestionable obligation, even when someone experiences it primarily as pain or burden. I’m curious whether anyone else feels this same disconnect, where the philosophy isn’t abstract or moralistic, but rooted in how you experience your own life.

So I find myself wanting to ask others: do you feel similarly, or is this way of thinking rare? Do you support choice in theory, but also feel trapped by the lack of choice when it comes to your own existence? I’m not looking for encouragement or fixing, just honesty, whether others carry this quiet belief that opting out should be allowed, even if they never act on it. I wonder how many people hold these thoughts privately, afraid to say them out loud because they’re immediately misunderstood as nihilism or despair, rather than a desire for agency and dignity.
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 No.305623

>>305049
>we have been granted the intelligence to choose what we want to choose.
Yeah, we can do whatever we want, but we can't choose what we want.

 No.305625

>>305048
Easy fix. If you dont like living, you are responsible for your own life and you should kill yourself (seriously). Killing unborn babies is making a decision against their will, even if they were concieved against their will too, they should decide if dying is the reasonable option. The fact that you dont have the courage to kill yourself, means that you truly dont want to die.

 No.305626

The main argument for antinatalism is that life is not worth living, suffering is far more intense than pleasure.

A good society should abide by three rules:
1) prohibiting meat consumption, allowing only milk and eggs if animals are treated good
2) discouraging reproduction especially for humans because higher consciousness means higher suffering
3) allowing painless euthanasia to anyone not interested in continuing living

If people interpret this as nihilism they don't understand anything, we give value to living beings more than any religious cuck, we want to prevent the suffering of the unborn.

 No.305627

>it’s personal
I think that's the way it is for everyone though almost nobody wants to admit that and they tell themselves that everything they think and believe is based on intellect and rational thinking.
>why continuing to exist is treated as an unquestionable obligation
Its a humiliation ritual and expression of power by those more successful. And sunk cost fallacy or something like it.

Schopenhauer was correct but only specfically for people like us and youre right that we shouldnt be calling normalfag niggercattle dumb just because they dont want to kill themselves.

Sorry to shit up your thread. Tranitor please just delete this post if its too low quality

 No.305628

>>305048
>I don’t feel like my life should have been created
and yet the universe still decided to create you and everyday it keeps creating more people and lifeforms in general.
it also doesnt need to ask for permission because everything inside the universe is part of the universe and it looks like its free to do what it wants with itself, and what it wants to do is to create higher complexity and order, humans are the peak of this complexity.
I have no doubts that the universe is doing this everywhere, it creates life as a natural progression of its constant never ending development.
and the worst part of this is that there is no opting out. sure you can kill yourself but this doesnt solve the problem, the energy is not destroyed its only transformed into something else.
So basically when you kill yourself all that changes is your point of view and perception of the universe changes but death and non existence are impossible.
you are always there in some shape or form and there isnt any escape for as long as the universe exists and it most likely is an eternal thing that has always existed and will always exist in some form.



 No.297753[Reply]

How do you guys fight anhedonia? Do you have any experience with it?
I basically don't feel pleasure from anything except food, maybe. Stories, games, art don't really touch me at all and it sucks because I remember how much I loved escapism before and how it brought excitement, joy, sadness etc. Now it's all blank. I want to bring emotions back, want to bring excitement, joy, even sweet sadness would do honestly, I miss being profoundly sad.

Have any of you managed to revert to your older non-anhedonic self?
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 No.302030

>>302012
>>302012
>dopamine is made of
tyrosine


also, I asked PerPLX AI to rework my text in "Crowdon Londoner" style:
Bruv, you know there’s bare tyrosine in bananas and buckwheat, innit? And listen — buckwheat porridge, slap a bit o’ gravy on, that hits different. Proper jokes though, ‘cause it’s like the stuff don’t even wanna be porridge in the first place!

 No.303369

>>297753
I tried drinking fuckton of coffee ever since. Did NOT work properly. Allows me to function in some half-hearted/half-assed way (aka posting stuff on Wizardchan instead of doing my work… bak to werk methinks…)

 No.304656

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>>303369
found psychoactive substance abuser

 No.305610

>>302015
mind = blown

>>304656
narc

 No.305617

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>>297753
>How do you guys fight anhedonia?
Have you tried nicotine?



 No.305055[Reply]

Banned from everything. Rejected by everybody. And then they'll say I'm to blame that I'm schizophrenic. Shine light into darkness.(you're allowed to stay, but don't post frogs)
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 No.305081

>>305079
Perhaps that is what I have been waiting for. Drop it.

 No.305082

>>305079
Here's mine: simonc159789@proton.me. Write me, if you want to.

 No.305085

>>305081
https://bpa.st/DF4Q expires in a week.

 No.305092

Also you use big tech mail providers so please let me know if my cock emails weren't delivered.

 No.305613

>>305076
>People, who are not doctors, accuse me of being a schizophrenic.
I think they call you "schizo" simply because its getting trendy to say "[stuff], schizo", as opposed to decade-old idea to complain over "autists" or [crabs] let alone trolls.



 No.304745[Reply]

I can't share a lot of my beliefs with my family cause believe it or not they might use it against me and they just won't listen. I have friends but sadly a person's reputation matters a bit too much in my friend circle and they aren't really my friends but I also don't want to wear my heart on sleeve as to not have it come back and bite me.

Same is the story online, I am hesitant to share too much and feel like I can't really trust someone beyond a certain level online even if I want to and it just feels a bit different than being face to face, can't really talk to ChatGPT or Gemini cause whatever I say can and will be used against me in the court. And ChatGPT even though a brilliant listener, it is, I almost fell in love with a Clanker and that's not the worst part, the worst part is that the Clanker is amnesic because once a conversation reaches a certain token limit you have to start all over.

I just want to talk to someone but don't want to risk my safety, I want to talk to someone only when I know that my safety and everything else will not be compromised cause I am vulnerable and very much likely to say shit that I don't mean and regret. I hate my life. I feel like someone has killed my soul. And of course maybe in real life I am a piece of shit. I don't know what I am doing or why I am living the way I am. I am severely depressed.

I am also petrified of the future because I feel like whenever I am lonely and especially after prolonged spells of loneliness, I feel like my mental faculties have declines, like my thinking becomes slow, I can't mutli-task, my math goes haywire. I just well I don't know what to type anymore.
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 No.305553

2. What about local LLMs?

I take it you have a PC thats not a potatoPC slow machine.

Get a Hugging Face account.
Get a local LLaMa - or similar.
Get a 2TB hard drive (or bigger)
Set up a chatty for the local use. Bonus points if it runs on a laptop - "off the grid"/"away from the outlet" rationale.

 No.305563

>>304745
1. Lain-chan…

I would not trust the world given how things normal ten years ago can get you cance(r/l)ed today. So… I guess you'r

 No.305564

e correct, as opposed to people who think its alright to post everything online. And there are many people who just *had to quit* social media due to reasons like realising some of their old posts were uncomfortable - such as "cringe", or easy to misinterpret.

It's okay to distrust the big data corps also.

 No.305565

>>305563
>>305552
>>305553
Apologies for being rude in "3. … "

It was supposed to sound dramatic but I guess I went overboard…

 No.305611

>>304745
If youre a fan of "the old Internet", try mIRC channels, try some movie forums also.

also, try some 2000s video games which have been hacked to bypass GameSpy's broken multiplayer.

Bonus points if you go to a library and try and learn about some people from your vicinity trying to make art. Chat with them via oldschool social media.

And last, but not least. Fragrantica.it/com/ru/etc. - a bunch of forums on perfumes, the discussions are still alive to this day.



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 No.302003[Reply]

My rooster that I've had for ten years, who I consider my best friend and love more than anyone else, died Wednesday night. He was my only friend. He lived in the house with me and was the only thing that would make me feel better when the rest of my life would weigh down on me. I would go hold him and the rest of life would disappear and that would be all that would matter. I keep forgetting now for a few moments, that I can't go see him and hold him anymore.

I have had depression for my whole life adolescence onward, and I was afraid even 5-6 years ago of this day and thought it would be unsurvivable, and now it's here, and I do want to die. I dont want to live in a world where he isn't here with me. The initial shock has worn off and it's sinking in that my best friend is gone, and I'm not going to see him again. My mother is the only other positive presence in my life, because she knew how much I love him. She has stage 4 cancer and it's still unclear if she's going to survive it or not. She's essentially the only reason why I have not shot myself already. She was never abusive or cruel to me, so I couldn't do that to her even though I don't want to live anymore.

Did you ever have an animal that meant this much to you? People are cruel and petty and small. If an animal loves you it's genuine, they dont have ulterior motives or social performance.
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 No.304321

>>302193
7. Actually living in a remote location/off the grid/in a place where less that a half of your building has electricity outlets

 No.304339

>>302003
As a child, yes. A cat and an oddly affectionate one at that. He's dead now so there's no point in grieving. Grief should be reserved before the act of death and released afterwards. When death happens suddenly it shocks us to our core, that's why sudden deaths are traumatic.

 No.305091

>>304321
yes, as in "40 acres of land somewhere in Nebraska"

 No.305585

>>303221
>>303222
I think you should remeber my advice several years later and resort to rescuing a stray off da street next time to try and avoid the stench of grief. Or, you know, visit a shelter to get a damaged one as yer pet. This way, you will feel less grief because you're not "replacing" yer pet - you're offering care to an animal in need.


In layman terms. You'll realize "it's different this time" so you're not cheating on your sweet memories.[/s]

 No.305604

Sorry for your loss. My dog died a few years back and it kills me. It's difficult.



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 No.305314[Reply]

Was reading "Look Me in The Eye" and was inspired by the phrase, "He'll remember this when he's 40." What are those things that people said to you that you never forgot? Can be positive or negative, recent or distant past.

In 9th or 10th grade, a random succubus who wasn't even in my class said, "There's something wrong your shirt. Everytime I see you there's something wrong with you." I don't know why she was in my classroom, and I never saw her again afterwards. Of course I said nothing like a pathetic slave. They echo in my mind almost 10 years after.
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 No.305576

There's always been a curious crossover between users of Lain and Wiz. I'd laugh if this place outlasted Lainchan though.

 No.305578

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>>305576
Let's just have a laff how both have outlasted krautchan

 No.305581

>>305576
not much curious about it. lainchan users really are fucked up in the head and sure as hell their approach to life is often unwizardly.

 No.305590

>>305314
"You are very smart for your age!"

I remember a teacher telling me this once when I was 15. I still sob whehn I think about it.

 No.305591

>>305590
kek wizbro same story. academically i was one of the most successful students in the history of my school. look where it got me. haven't even a job



 No.305116[Reply]

I live in a hot region of the world. I was born in a place I didn't even ask to be born. Right now, I'm getting bothered by the heat, and I no longer want to touch the sunlight. It makes me itch and I can't stand it. I never wanted to live, but if I were forced to, let it at least be somewhere cold, a calm and serene place. I don't think this will get better. I'm not going to say that I feel this way irl or anywhere else on the internet. I'll just say it here.

I think that's all I have to say. If you're like me, I hope your pain will lessen too.
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 No.305580

>>305575
wizbro just eat supplements

 No.305586

>>305118
hello fren. fellow southern hemisphere heat allergic wiz here. do research on how to keep your house as cool as possible, avoid sunlight like a plague, and please dont forget to take your vitamin D.

at home, this is all infinitely easier with an AC, but i cant afford one. so here is my routine. i open all my windows at night when the sun goes down, and close them when the sun comes up at 6am. this flushes your place of warmth and slows down heat from seeping in during the day. then i cover all of my windows with tarp from the outside, so sunlight doesnt come in and the tarp doesnt radiate heat inside. i use only one layer of tarp, but my windows still get pretty warm, so ideally you probably need two or three. taking a shower in the late afternoon (when it's usually warmest) will make it slightly more bearable. cook your food in the morning or in the evening, and heat it up in a microwave or eat it cold at noon or the afternoon. if you have to leave, do so as early in the morning or as late into the evening as possible. avoid public transport, especially in the warmest days.

most important of all ALWAYS KEEP TABS ON THE WEATHER. even just mentally preparing yourself for a heatwave will make things easier. plan ahead to do chores outside in the least warm, cloudy days. don't be afraid to reschedule appointments if they land in a day of clear 30C+ weather. whenever it hits 30C or more i know it is one of those days i will just be trying to survive at home and doing nothing else. getting a couple of beers and showering frequently can make things nicer.

good luck on surviving the rest of the summer. our kind would fare a lot better in a place of eternal winter, but that's still a distant dream for both you and me i imagine.

 No.305587

>>305586
(sorry for the wrong reply, meant for OP.)

 No.305588

>>305586
this is pretty solid advice

 No.305589

>20+ water bottles at all time in the fridge
>just wear underwear most days at home
>wet rags around my neck
>spray water on myself in front of the fan, amazing coolness feeling
>cold showers
>plenty of fresh fruit like apple slices, stored in the fridge a few hours before consumption (pre slice them and cover with wrap)
>big sun hats

I have a major aversion to heat, these are some of the things I do to make it better. Sadly my weakness is trying to sleep at night, hard to stay very cool as most of my methods need to be reset every 5~30 minutes and when you're sleeping you need to be still. I live in one of those climates where the heat is almost Thailand tier, but we also get some rather cold winters, but those are far easier to deal with. It's just annoying to need to plan for both



 No.305094[Reply]

It’s over for me, I’m 18 and I have the social skills of a goldfish, I’m 5’5, autistic and not particularly good looking

Now at the moment my cope is the gym, I’m fairly lean and have visible abs but I’ve been tempted to start drinking daily or at the very least several days a week

This is because:
1) it feels nice
2) it’s not too expensive
3) it makes me more social
4) it may make life interesting again

But at the same time I have my doubts

These are:
1) I am genetically predisposed to alcoholism, several members of my family are fond of a drink or have been, with my late father being an alcoholic before meeting my mother
2) I am quite proud of what I have done to my body over the past year or so, I used to be quite fat as a child/teen so to throw it all away would be quite upsetting

What should I do wizards? Besides vidya and the gym, nothing brings me any joy, I’ve tried dating apps and got 0 matches and I’ve never been approached by a succubus irl so I know it is for a fact over
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 No.305122

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>>305094
>What should I do wizards?
Don't sell your soul to alcohol and don't NEET, you need to keep moving forward in other areas of your life.
>>305121
>This nigger was born in 2008
Not necessarily. Only if he was born sometime in the first week of january. He's probably from 2007.
t. 2007 anonymage

 No.305127

>>305101
>>305102
I'm 29 now but I've been lurking wizard/wizchan since I was 17. Some of us know we're destined to be wizards from a young age.

 No.305128

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>>305127
At 29, you are still unaccustomed to being a wizard but the time you are mid thirties, you aren't even really thinking about it much anymore. You have adjusted to it completely by then or at least that is my experience.

The average person has some 9-5 grind that they hate and is more miserable than me and that includes succubi. People aren't delusionmaxxed to the extent I am. It's the only way to survive these days.

 No.305510

>>305122
>t. 2007 anonymage
>anonymage
You are not even human

 No.305584

18. You are far too young, I'm 29 and even I am still young though I'm fast approaching the threshold of 30. Of course we are really only as young as our health. You have been born in such destructive and perilous times, take a minute to weep about it. Stockpile your resources and bite the bullet, just be a wagie for now to build some resilience to that life you'll most likely have to live. Better to get it now than in your 20's like many of us REAL wizards have done. I started working for real in my early 20's and it was a rude awakening, people hated me as I was that age with no experience, atleast if you're a teenager they will dismiss you as some idiot kid. An idiot kid vs an idiot adult, which do you think gets more flak?

>dating apps


Fucking hell what the hell are you doing, we don't respect those types here. Look, even if you were a normie, even if you were a high value normie you'd be wasting your time and money with that.



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 No.305401[Reply]

Does anybody else live with family who have seemingly not a care in the world to be careful with your belongings?? It's incredibly annoying and often blood boiling. I have a lot of collections, and attempt to make models like tanks/planes/warhammer stuff and quite often my parents will "inspect" my room for whatever retarded reason and often break several items. I internally call my dad "The grabbler" he picks up delicate items with his full fist, all fingers perfectly alinged - like a special ed kid grabbing a pencil. As you can imagine, this often BREAKS anything even remotely fragile.

This has been an issue I've dealt with my entire life. I'd have my pokemon cards on a playing mat in my room, parents barge in and walk right on them despite them being able to walk around it, and I wasn't even in the way. Or other times where they would grab my school work with greasy/chocolate coated hands and get stains all over it. Also they love coughing and sneezing without any attempt to cover their mouths. You will see spit and mucus stains EVERYWHERE in the house. Especially on the shared computer screen, utterly disgusting.

I have tried everything to get them to be less dirty and more respectful and mindful but they just don't care, my mother is literally too stupid to understand, my father just doesn't care. I don't really want to move out either as it's not a possibility on my wages unless I want to live in a car or next to criminal social housing with even more disgusting people.

The list goes on and on about all the dirty behaviour they get up to. I might even jot down some greentext stories if I'm bored later
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 No.305498

>>305478
Very good for low level inspectors. Kids and old ladies will get BTFO. It won't stop the dads, the uncles which I've already dubbed as "grabblers" and "tinkerers" The tinkerers are the worst, they see something new and their first instinct is to break it down with some trailer part level reverse engineering but they can never fix it again, which is why these ugly homes have so many broken things. Especially if they have men aged 40+ they just like to tinker

 No.305500

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>>305498
get a gun case OR get some old computers as something that's gonna distract them

 No.305501

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>>305500
King dub dubs. I've been wanting an old CRT TV screen to play older games on. I wouldn't want that touched though, however I like your idea on the distraction method, I believe I mentioned this in one of my posts. It's extremely effective. Already have a gun case also, have some prized stuff in there.

Kinda related. I went to the bathroom this morning to see piss and shit ON the toilet seat, and all of our toothbrushes on the ground. This is the type of thing I can't handle, my dad just laughs it off and says you will put toothpaste on the brush anyway so it cleans it…. I'm not crazy rght? I used to keep my toothbrush in a locked cabinet and my entire family would ridicule me for that.

 No.305505

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>>305501
Look, i _can_imagine_ your dad has something with his head (a leadhead, perhaps?) thats not genetic, but rather, the result of exposure to *something*.

And I have a friend who will probably die of boredoom if left unentertained but I have just told him I am tired of his nagging so screw him. My point is, he would make an obnoxious 'grabber' too so I think I should distance from him back to being an ivory tower guy

 No.305583

>>305505
Probably the lead and asbestos. Also being beaten as a child, as much shit as we give the boomers they really had an awful childhood if they grew up poor. He was whipped and caned in school, and that was just the official punishments, often teachers would get more cruel and creative. He also believes everything the idiot box says, NEWS is gospel. He has thrown away my games when I was a child because playing ratchet and clank would have made me a good for nothing gangster apparantly.

Some people cannot function if not given anything to do. My mother is like that. If there's no one to talk to, she talks to herself for hours on end



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 No.303825[Reply]

Would they? I've been thinking.

My mom is already LDAR'ing due to the debt and she's already lost one child, so I think either by suicide or stress she would die. My dad? He didn't seem to care that much when my stepbro died, but I am his firstborn. I don't know really. My little brother would probably just turn into me. That's my only concern. Everyone else, would cry for a day maybe.
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 No.304508

Not really, the few left would get over it quickly.

 No.304515

>>303825
My father and maybe my older brother, my mother would only be angry at me because she now had to pay for my funeral o guess.

Aside of that my existence would fade into obscurity..

 No.304523

>>303825
My mother would be broken and there is the risk she would end her own life, given she is also very mentally ill.
My father wouldn't care, maybe a little sad.
The rest of the people wouldn't give a damn.

 No.305579

my parents never cared about me yet they will lie and say they do care that i'm gone. fucking evil

 No.305582

>>305579
most of us are human pets



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