/dep/ - Depression

The reason you're depressed isn't just because you're ugly, mentally ill, or burdened with personal issues, it's also because you're oversocialized, just like Ted Kaczynski described. You've been conditioned to internalize every expectation, every rule, every judgment from society. You're constantly plugged into what others think, say, and demand of you — and it's suffocating. It chips away at any sense of self that isn’t shaped by external approval. That kind of overstimulation doesn’t just wear you down it hollows you out.

We know.

>>301908
You type very low-IQ for someone who claims to have high IQ

>>298285
>Having a high IQ without being nurtured properly as a child can cause you to miss out
<Yeah it's your parents' fault that you're not the genius you were destined to be


WRONG.

OPs talking about struggling with tasks that require EI, "emotional intelligence". Being a genius doouche since childhood means not meeting development-oriented hurdles.


You know, not having the ability to suggest things, to express own hunches, to display volition or demand to respect da authority

>>298255
I was smart at math and very creative with various computer software. Learned everything myself from scratch. But I'm a social retard so it's pretty simple

>>301924
My biggest problem was that I thought I always acted like a normal person. In reality I have AuDHD and later I got schizophrenia

>>301912
>>301912
also


whh bother

>>300989
the guy in your picture has such powerful, menacing vibes
I'd freeze on the spot if I saw him I.R.L
there would be nothing I could do, he can predict all of my moves

anyway, that poster is just one very vocal guy with messiah syndrome
he thinks silencing the ego is the solution to everything, but ironically he won't shut up and even has a distinct, almost signature writing style

please don't stop coming to this wonderful establishment

>>300989
can you stay and teach us how to be super strong and brave

>>300530
You need to be snarky/quirky

and use the wonders of AI to strike back.

(inb4 you'll accidentally turn ChatGPT/DeepSeek/other LLM into GLaDOS)

>>300991
>anyway, that poster is just one very vocal guy with messiah syndrome
he thinks silencing the ego is the solution to everything, but ironically he won't shut up and even has a distinct, almost signature writing style


he may or may not have a funny LLM AI posting for him

all while he's personally "silent like lasagna" like a real G

>>300991
>anyway, that poster is just one very vocal guy with messiah syndrome
>he thinks silencing the ego is the solution to everything, but ironically he won't shut up and even has a distinct, almost signature writing style


he may or may not have a funny LLM AI posting for him

all while he's personally "silent like lasagna" like a real G


(edit: fixed quoting)

>>301220
Yeah tell that to a veteran

>>301221
I would, because it stands. Even effeminate boys get drafted in to wars. Those who can't endure the natural, bloody human experience are not fit for survival. You can feel bad that these soft guys were thrown in to a situation that could break them permanently, but nobody should have to tolerate those who allow their fears for something no longer happening control them.

War scared you? Sorry to hear. You're going to keep making it everyone else's problem even though the war is over? Eat dirt. If they didn't get the veteran status from being in a war, they'd be just another panicky oddball hyperventilating after being pulled over for speeding. And then we get to here, where guys who DIDN'T experience any of life's less fashionable aspects are having "panic attacks" over nothing, because they were never taught that it's not OK to let your irrational fears weigh down on you and others. Perma waah-waaah tantrum babies. I kick them.

>>301223
I appreciate your effort to make wizzies ‘man up’ and all but the reality of things is the horror created by our own mind, not by external observations. In other words there needs to be no war to experience ptsd symptoms. I agree that these words are used inflationary still the case stands that the symptoms subjectively are very real.

>>301223
>>301226
The thing about PTSD is that it is a stress disorder, which was induced by trauma, not a consistent trauma effect. The trauma is important in that there are associations related to the trauma that can inspire the stress response. Anxiety disorders and other stress disorders can also have traumatic connections but the origin does matter. But stress happens at a very measurable biochemical level with very reproducible effects and it's a little unusual to expect a large oversized chemical process to have only safe and socially tolerable results. Overresponsive stress systems are more like realizing that a particular person loses their coordination and response time at a much lower BAC and should not be permitted even one beer before a drive.

It is true that the standard hormonal stress response is in real life very much sex dependent, for neurotypicals. This is because it is related to the production of cortisol and to androgens. The female body is much more prone to conditioning towards PTSD for ultimately glanular reasons. There are neurotypes that do not have a conditionable stress response at all, partiuclarly psychopaths. Psychopaths tend to drown out any limited stress cortisol with various androgen hormones and this is the primary reason their disinhibition makes them so impulsive and so different from the other empathy-deficit disorders. This is one of the explanations for how a stress disorder can also imitate psychopathy by essentially shorting out the stress response cycle, making it fire everything at once and having a stress-depleted response afterwards. Because this creates a different pattern of criminal behavior this has a special designation in forensic psychology, "secondary psychopathy." More popularly referred to as sociopathy by virtue of appearing to be socially conditioned rather than innate. Sociopaths are far more violent than innate psychopaths and it might be because of this push and pull between the cortisonal and androgenic response systems. Then again it might just be because where psychopaths lack a conscience, sociopaths have a conscience and it is that conscience that is telling them that they are required to do harm to others. Like that old saying about false righteousness being worse than unrighteoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>301223
not quite


PTSD has that "couldnt do shit about it" part. A truck driver may get PTSD over mines risk

I believe that if your solution to The Life Question is to:
- Wait 2+ years
- Travel to a foreign land
- Succeed the bureaucracy of becoming a resident
- Coordinate with doctors and psychiatrists
- Wait however many years for an appointment to sit in a hospital and get poked with a death needle
Then maybe you don't really want to die. You could not have chosen a more drawn-out and tiresome means to an end. Plus it's not something you're allowed tom do on your own. Any Canadian self-murder services predating MAIDs required co-signers - someone who agrees to be responsible for responsibly disposing of your carcass. As a permanent resident you won't qualify for the kind of life insurances that will cover such an expense.

Involuntary "natural" death sounds hellish, I don't get why normies don't make euthanasia as a priority, everyone will die

>>301858
You see, not everyone was done thinking all by themselves, whether one's consciousness just halts at the very moment of dying… FOREVER.

>>301262
Lemme guess. Your sleep schedule is a mess, you have a cheap bed or none (a.k.a. sleeping on a coach); you have no blackout curtains and no background noise to hum out the small noises in the night.


Well… You may or may not have additional" factors that render a decent drug useless.

>>301789
This was all true except now at my parents place I have an awesome bed

And it is dark and quiet enough here.

It's way better.

But.

My boss is back from leave and making me feel like shit again.
This job has rare qualities: remote, low effort, high pay, low interaction, secure, and prestigious. I’d be throwing away a dream job.

As for thinking I need to quit to focus on therapy or medication: that’s not true. When I was not working, I found I don't get healthier. I don’t eat better, exercise more, or feel less anxious. I just stress about different things — including future jobs, financial security, family and community perception and relationship prospects as a result of my job.
i am actually more productive in ny life outside work when I've worked that day it seems or worked during weekday if it's weekend, so not only a mental health boost but productivity.

That said, if the working conditions are too harsh for me, I still have to quit if I can't find a resolution, whatever the consequences.

The meds (I'm OP) are still keeping me from feeling too suicidal tho. Worth it. Still depressed tho.

hold on


so you used to consume SSRIs…

…without consuming serotonin precursors?

Well… You could use some 10$ box of L-carnitine



also, try fixing your diet (how? See "Dr. Berg" channel)

>>301848
ooh.

glad to hear the "better" part, comrade


I used to be somewhere in the /dep/ zone too. Never showed up at local schrink's since my maternal brother is a certified schizo (so they would pretty much misdiagnose me as yet another schizo as well)

>>301848
>My boss is back from leave and making me feel like shit again.


I wonder if you and your boss have different ethnicities, so you pretty much could try and "fake it till you make it" to be into boss' culture?

>>300268
how's your sleep?
i imagine you have a lot of sleep issues with chronic headaches not to mention how it will hinder your functionality at school/work

>>300270
My chronic headaches appear few times per day, but if I close my eyes for a while a headache would disappear, so sleep is not a problem for me.

Before AI existed I tried to google my problem, but there were no specific informations about that, but only texts - ,,laser pointer in few seconds can make pernament damage", but no one exactly discribed, what ,,pernament eye damage" means.

I also never went to eye doctor to ask, because from my experiences doctors can sometimes be assholes.

In a just world, you would've lawyered up.

>>300268
>But it made my realise, in life nothing is sure, and bad things happens everywhere, you ll be in bad place at bad time and you can lost your health, etc.
Wow, how profound

One time doing laser work I accidentially glanced at a blue-ray laser diode. I saw it through a piece of beam blocking paper I made that had a large circle in the middle at beam height. When I looked away I started seeing that same circle and square shape where ever I looked. I was so terrified but the image eventually faded.

Generally any damage to your retina can be compensated by your brain reprocessing the image. However things like floaters make it difficult because they don't track with your eye movements.

The only really dangerous things is if you start seeing black blotches at the edge of your eye sight slowly growing inwards. These mean your retina is detaching and you have 24 hours to get surgery before permanently losing your eyesight.

>>297544
Social skills and confidence which also correlate are the main points. Without social skills you can't even pursue things like art properly except for the obvious parts that just require creative skill but you will still end up stuck if you don't have the social abilities even with talent and potential on your side.

Its also a good point that this is not about succubi or other noise that doesn't matter. Socializing will always be pointless but having social abilities is still very important because it's about way more than having a good time.

You don't even need to be very social or crazy likeable, you just need to be able to navigate socially. You can even be quiet or reserved to get along in life socially but what you can't be is weird, autistic, insecure or too shut off/in. A lot of guys make the mistake of thinking that they are just quiet when in all actuality they are completely socially retarded while actual quiet guys don't even have social issues and are able to navigate and understand things.

A whole lot of this correlates with confidence, if you are insecure and lack confidence then every social interaction will be unbearable and you will never improve socially even if you expose yourself to situations. Confidence is a whole different chapter however.

>>297542
I've been trying to improooooove myself for years. Never got anywhere. Self-improvement is mostly a myth. It's a nice fantasy we tell ourselves to

1.) Make us feel better about our accomplishments. I did it! it was ME. circumstances didn't work in my favor
2.) Make us not have to feel bad for the suffering of others. They didn't get unlucky and I lucky. They just didn't improooooove!

>>301689
>Most drug free people are obese coomers, vain social media narcissists or gymfags that exert themselves into exhaustion regularly.
Drug habits are just in plain sight and often carry the risk of fucking people up fast but I guess it's safe to say that most people struggle with something such as stimulation addiction, narcissistic brain farts or a dependency on validation. Some of the most fucked up people I witnessed are straight edge and don't even watch porn but they get all depressed if they can't put someone else down or if they don't get attention.

Its also too obvious now that a shitload of 'regular' people have a massive social media and scrolling addiction on top of their fucked up dopamine receptors.

It's really easy to fall into some kind of trap indeed. Doesn't even matter where you are, even third worlders in the most retarded places are scrolling through TikTok all day.

>>301694
Self improvement works to a certain extent but only if its focused on fixing and maintaining. Most self improvement stuff is just fluff but you can definitely improve your life by getting healthier and fit or by cutting out bad influences from your life. Its not rocket science but a lot of people want to become a completely different human being instead of trying to take control of whats in their hands.

Then there's also the retards who start taking TRT for no good reason just because people on the internet told them it's a fix for everything.

>>301695
I think everyone without children cope in better or worse ways. Like you cant believe The amount of 30 yr old normies with less than 5k to their name "just gotta get rich" with a straight face

People with children just care about their family and this is normal and healthy

I just found out that my birth was compicated: I had a brain hemorrhage and asphyxia, and I almost died.
It all checks out. I'm a wiz because I got brain damage since birth.
Anyone here has a history of complicated birth or infancy? I think more of us are brain damaged than we think and it contributed to out mental struggles.

>>301825
>I'm a wiz because I got brain damage since birth.
You chose to not have sex because of something you didn't even know happened until now? What?

I at the point where I don't derive any joy from existing. Get up got to work, go home and get 6 hours of free time to try and mentally escape which is impossible when nothing is worth it. Beat video game, nothing happens. finish reading a book, nothing happens. Make art…cook…on and on. Nothing is going to somehow magically catapult my life trajectory somewhere better.

>>301825
Well, I was born into a narcissist's second family as a project to fix all the mistakes from the first family, was molested as a kid, got hit in the head by a soccer ball (never played the damn sport) and woke up on concrete to half the class around me
This was the last time people paid attention to me in those numbers and I was 8 years old

>>301826
chose because we fail to get pleasure when it comes to mating because we lack the mechanism to have oxytocin or something released when it comes to mating