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 No.303398[Reply]

The sole purpose of this post is to share the techniques and books I have accumulated over time to achieve relaxation and other things.
I have read about meditation, magic, ceremonial magic, chaotic and postmodern magic, anxiety therapies, and relaxation techniques. This thread is not a cure for all problems. I don't want to turn this into a blogspot, so feel free to ask whatever you want.
>Also
Remember that you can also search for the techniques I mention on the internet, on YouTube, or on WikiHow, where you can find help on how to perform these techniques and more tips.
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 No.307344

>>307343
sometimes i wonder about the power of it- is it from the retention itself (like chi or life force) or is it more of the act of discipline, like training yourself to hold your breath, you become more efficient at using oxygen in your body, you train past the pain (with sex the 'pain' would be that 'itch' drive force that produces urges etc)

Curious how practicitoners here utilize the practice. Do you have any conscious practice around it?

Doing some self-examination here… obviously i'm giving myself signs to quit and give myself a break at the very least to reset my libido… my spirituality has been really out of touch for months

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>>307344
I don't believe in chi or vitalistic ideas and all that stuff because I experiment with what I believe maybe and it seems to be hypnosis, beliefs, and mild altered states of consciousness.
Kinda materialistic approach if you see it like that way.
Maybe nofap, abstinence, and holding back make you more susceptible to suggestions/hypnosis.
Or maybe it opens you up to some kind of magic, I don't know, I have no idea.
Maybe it change something in your head, neurochemicals, i dont know, or maybe its just for discipline or sex control.
>Also
Right now I'm trying the 50-day challenge just to see what it's like. I did it last year, but I never actually had orgasms I just fapped without it. Basically, I was just “gooning” (I think Genesis P-Orridge recommended this method in one of his books or something lol), although there are several authors who replace the no fap no sex with something else that's just as bizarre in its own right related to sexual activity.
I dont know Wizard.

 No.307363

>>307362
that sounds like the eroto-comatose lucidity technique
how long were your sessions and did you reach an altered state of consciousness with them?

 No.307364

>>307363
>that sounds like the eroto-comatose lucidity technique
No, the gooning tech like p o-rridge maybe suggested is just fap without orgasm climax for 50 days or more.
The eroto-comosatose was more into total stimuly of all the senses, never tried it. But i remember reading somewhere that use abstinense to enchance pleasure sense.
>how long were your sessions and did you reach an altered state of consciousness with them?
I know its not the topic of the answer but sometimes i got a lot of focus and visualization just by focusing and feign having sex in my head in my bed. It even enchanced orgasm feeling so maybe the thing of visualization and acting was into it.
In a way is like playing before sex for succubus maybe. The focus exchance the orgasm and pleasure maybe.
In the Tibet the buddhist do something similar but with deities and visual power.

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>>307364
Guys, i was reading, i asked a AI about Semen-retention around 50 days (not Nofap, just semen-retention but same) around neurochemicals and brain etc and the AI cited me interesting articles that i lost now but look like nofap in a way enchance suggestionability based in a production of a neurochemical in head (ignoring the other good effects of taking a good healthy routine in 50 days) in the 50 days
>in 7 days get the peak testoterone (i tested this and i can confirm its true for my experience)

>after 7 maybe, the testoterone to the in a way middle or like Regression toward the mean

>after 14 or 17 days supposed get a light change in brain

>but after 50 days something change in a way reset and some neurochemical improves suggestibility

So… ignoring the Gooning Magical technique or the nofap technique for more pleasure later or even placebos and beliefs/bias, maybe the old pagan Greek philosopher, Chinese taoist/daoist, Roman philosophers, Vitalist, Victorian mages like Papus (this guys say this is the first thing to magic but 40 or 48 days i dont remember), Aleister Crowley and maybe Golden Dawn around abstinence, and Robert Anton Wilson around the secret of sex magic of 50 days in sexual abstinence and other modern ceremonial magicians etc maybe that's the secret
>what?
improves suggestibility based in reset of the brain and production of a neurochemical that improves suggestibility to self-hypnosis or rituals, like RAW book around sexual imprinting we are making a new opportunity to imprint one of the circuits? who knows? like a pavlov dog or a peak or trauma experience?
Maybe the AI have bias or i go full schizo but why no try? maybe its just a placebo but why not try?
>Also
Yeah, this is probably pseudoscience, but as I recall, the AI cited studies mentioned humans and the chemistry of sex, masturbation, and addictions, as well as animal experiments—which doesn’t exactly make it very credible but I still think there’s something odd about ceremonial magicians placing so much emphasis on 40, 48, or 50 days of sexual abstinence. anyone know same practice and days in chinese or oriental magesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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 No.307908[Reply]

It comes to my mind very often how evilness surrounds everything, from your own body being rotten and painful to the average politician being cruel and unhinged.
I can really assume we live in a hell realm, people are so used to suffering that atrocious and disgusting news such as murder or car accidents are deemed normal.
We're born without knowing why in a world we did not create and we must obey rules we did not decide, there is really no point in counsciousness when existence is like this unless it was conceived by evil forces for evil purposes.
So my conclusion is that we live inside a reality of pure evil, no chaotic, no orderly, just pure evil without any sense, like hitting your head until you die.
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 No.307911

Everything revolves around balance. Evil is just another useless concept that doesn't work without there being good. Maybe existence is just there because some bored Gods wanted to demonstrate each other what these formal concepts look like in full colour and how limited conscious beings behave when they are given the option between good and evil.

 No.307913

>>307910
And I' sure you define torture as minor inconvenience.

 No.307916

look into gnosticism. i'm increasingly convinced it's the truth.

 No.307917

>>307913
Here is a list of what I call torture that is commonly suffered on earth:

Hunger and thirst -> the most common form of torment in nature and the major cause of death among animals
Temperature -> from being burned alive to frozen to death I call this the seasonal torture
Violence -> millions of animals are slaughtered every day, among humans every 30 seconds a violent crime happens
Disease -> pain, suffocation, nausea, dizziness, itching, spasms, pressure, discomfort, cramps, paralysis, clots, dysfunction, infections, cancer, etc…
Psychological torment -> anxiety, depression, psychosis, existential dread, trauma, etc…
Fatigue and coercion -> being tired and exhausted, forced slavery, enduring prison or psychiatrization
Emotional trauma -> being scolded, abandoned, abused, bullied, etc…
Nature -> insects biting you, animals devouring you, losing your home from a disaster, storms, earthquake, eruptions
Threat from outer space -> asteroids, aliens, intergalactic events, etc…
Laws -> many laws may prevent you from getting relief such as a home for the homeless, or opioids for the suffering ones

 No.307920

>>307917
Drug addicts not being given free drugs is torture..? So I was right.


 No.307706[Reply]

Why do us humans have to be so alone? I feel that despite having options to live and exist and do things we still are so very dependent on this biological programming to seek connection. I don't know how to say this but I honestly, often hate myself for seeking it from other people — trying to make friends who would listen, or talk, or at least stay. I know people are very busy and have no time to stay to listen and understand other people's loneliness but I typically wonder if I could just have one person, not a therapist, just one genuinely good person who would not be judgemental (although they could be if they have any good advice) and would just listen to me like I matter; my situation is not something I am making up, this is me, suffering from being an outlier who has tried so hard to be a part of normal people but just couldn't. I really tried, but the performance was too much (although calling it a performance would be hypocritical). I could not do it, everyday I felt I was lying to myself, there was a small part of whatever honesty left was leaving me everyday, slowly but I could feel it. I did't know if I am living or lying. How long can I continue with this? Even when alone one, doing his work, to push through shouldn't there be a part within him that calls for an alignment with his honest self? I feel I lack that, it feels so pretentious to be existing. I don't wanna leave everything and just run away because I am not strong enough but I wonder if I could continue like this, and even if I could, calling that just a part of being human and a lot of other (fellow wizards) are going through the same, I don't know how long I could go on without completely going insane.
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 No.307830

>>307829
fact check: false

 No.307831

>>307830
> Stop giving a fk about them and start focusing on yourself and what you want in life.

What he said is true. Also if you actually live like that good things come automatic.

 No.307837

>>307829
>not care about what others think
ill just get my shit kicked in if its around the wrong person

 No.307838

>>307837
Are you so small and weak that you believe people will not only attack you, but also beat you every time? If someone gets violent, get violent back.

 No.307873

>>307831
not true. Having a valid social environment that helps you grow is just as important. source: look at the mirror.


 No.307749[Reply]

I'm an isekaist, I believe I'll get reincarnated in another world as I please. I don't think living in this world is worth, like this world is not what I wished for. I might have committed serious sins in my past life. So, I basically did nothing wrong in my current life and God/Deity/Goddess doesn't punish suicidal people as the bible doesn't mention condemnation to those who kill themselves.

 No.307757

>living is not worth it
I agree. I'm Christian and it's evil to say God sends people to Hell for suicide according to the Bible as it nowhere says this, in fact several Old Testament figures game ended themselves.
Isekaism, that is being forced to live over and over again sounds incredibly depressing to me.

 No.307760

>>307757
I just want to go to a magical medieval world and get reincarnated as a crown prince.

 No.307763

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I actually died last year after some dipshit told me I could make a portal to Gensokyo by cooking pennies on a stove or something. The planet I got reincarnated to was 100% full of other reincarnated Earthlings. Instead of being all fantasy and cool it was just diet Earth with crappy tech. Same old groids. Everyone lied about what they were in their previous life while constantly having dick-measuring contests over who died the most brutally. I was friends with a guy who said he was a B-52 bomber pilot who, instead of bailing out, died steering his flaming plane away from a church full of kids. I found it suspicious that he was still so young so when I killed myself to reincarnate again I asked the angel responsible for moving my soul and she confirmed that it was total bullshit and he would have been an old man if he was telling the truth. Evidently I was reincarnated back on Earth Classic with a secret duty to fulfill and once that's done they say they'll try to reincarnate me as my younger self on to one of the dangerous but fantastical planets with its own native populace of cute witches. Apparently it was a fluke for me to end up on the bad planet in the first place considering I died a virgin so they just reset my entire record.

 No.307812

>>307760
the more I think about it, I see zero point in staying alive in this world

 No.307813

>>307812
here's a science pill i heard recently. "chicken is an egg's way of making another egg". this finished what scraps of spirituality remained in me. so yeah you're right there's literally no reason to stay alive. never has been.


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 No.307613[Reply]

Buddhism just straight up ends the subject/object split and dependent co-origination makes the whole illusion of a permanent self or creator god look like the retarded cope it is while Christianity is still stuck LARPing with its sky daddy judging your jerkoff sessions and promising eternal torture for not believing in the magic carpenter. The eightfold path dissolves the whole mess without needing some jewish blood sacrifice ritual to "save" your immortal soul from original sin bullshit that never even happened. Every time some midwit starts yapping about how le based trad christianity built the west I just remember how their dualistic garbage keeps people chained to craving and aversion like retards chasing their own tail while the dharma lets you actually see through the aggregates. Fuck this gay earth and its endless rebirths of this same midwit argument.
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 No.307622

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>>307613
Take the religion that make you happy
i took absurdism sometimes and other times thelema… and other times buddhism.. and other times… just lol
or dont take anything and dont give a damn thing about it.

 No.307676

>>307613
I don't believe Buddhism has any real doctrine based in reality. There obviously is an immaterial consciousness stuck in the bodies of humans and animals, Abrahamic religions are superior. Reincarnation is obvious bullshit too.
Some Buddhist stuff is still kind of calming. Seems more like a hobby instead of a religion.

 No.307680

>>307676
Buddhism is not a religion, it was made to be a religion by shitheads morons who follow without understanding. It is more of a approach to life that prevents you being duhkha'd too much

 No.307782

>>307680
Pretty sure Buddhists themselves describe and view themselves as practicing a religion.

 No.307793

>>307680
Buddhism is spiritual and demands a belief in a multitude of alternate plains of existence and creation theories.
>It is more of a approach to life that prevents you being duhkha'd too much
How so? By convincing people that everything in existence is Dunkha and that they should try to die as soon as possible to not become consumed by it?


 No.306959[Reply]

I have a lot of faults of my own, perhaps my current predicament is entirely my fault. I have no friends. No one to talk to. But things are worse, I was born and currently live in a really hated country on this planet but regardless it could've always been worse, I could've been a prisoner in North Korea or on the menu in Africa for a good hearty meaty meal.

The true tragedy is I am significantly over than 21, I have a very rocky relationship with my parents, who abused the hell out of me, and I literally shake and tremble in fear when my parents are angry, I can feel pain in my heart. But guess what I am over 21 years of age and they are not bound by any law to take any care of me at all but they still do, they have also helped me a lot, while I don't wish them harm, I do wish I lived away from them.

And of course I am unemployed, to a great extent, I get talked down on daily basis, while I am grateful for what my parents have done for me, I am grateful for what normies have done for me by making wonderful things like mobiles and games. I do not like the fact that my father has a carte blanche to say anything to me and do anything to me, I am grateful for society for giving me mobiles and games, as I said. But I don't like how my value is only derived from what I earn.

If I don't earn, I am a pest, a drain on resources, my parents treat me like I am disposable, with no respect, at all. And why should they cause love isn't unconditional because if they loved me unconditionally, maybe I would've abused them instead. No such thing as that.

I just want to die but I am terrified of dying without living for once. I live in an honor culture mixed with Western Style liberalism and as an unemployed person, I am the lowest common denominator in them. Money has somehow turned out to be more important than I expected it to be, I mean money is water, money is food, and money is roof. I knew that but I didn't knew how.

I have never spent a day of my life that wasn't in constant anxiety and worrying about something, not a single day in my life where I could claim that 'Yes, it was a good day.'. Perhaps I am like one of those weird females who don't want solutions to their problems but they just want to be heard, when they talk, if you know what I mean. And it surprises me that I have an iota in common with succubi.

As I said a lot of fault lies with me, I have tried for jobs, and tried for online ways to earn. But pePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.307379

>>307366
When thinking about reincarnation I keep wondering why the hell would God, the Universe or whatever limit you to just one planet, just to one species. Never understood this point of view.
Also, even though pajeeting is a horrible prospect for the afterlife but I can think of thousand worse hells.

 No.307381

>>307374
wizhell
i'd actually pick north korea over it

 No.307382

>>307374
>I am surprised why my parents decided to have me in poverty
Most kids born in India and China are expected to provide for the parents after 20 years or so. Your parents took that gamble and lost.

 No.307758

An incident happened with me today because my father doesn't do proper maintenance of things and instead called some discount guy to do it and he ruined the appliance, he started to shout at me, as if it was my fault.

Never in my life have I wanted to put a kick right into someone's head like today. But I pray to the lord everyday that my father dies. That Pajeet has ruined my life and I have to take it cause I am unemployed. So the world tells me that I should be grateful even if he now has a carte blanche to abuse the fuck out of me.

I swear to god, I really want this motherfucker to be struck by lightning, one way or another. I hope this piece of shit suffers the worst cancer known to mankind and does as early as possible. I hope someone nukes this country and put an end to pathetic suffering.

 No.307759

if you off yourself you kinda hand it to them, but if you can get away from them and break contact, you win

in my view at least, I would find enjoyment knowing they cant touch me anymore and they dont even know what I am up to

then if you still want to off yourself, I would make sure they would never know

again, just my personal view


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 No.307580[Reply]

I am really tired
How can I find happiness independant of other people?
I cant deny I feel the need for connection, but it always ends poorly for me
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 No.307583

realistically what you really crave is just validation. connection is when you're validated by another person's existence because they share your world view or identity. that's difficult for wizardly types because we are more unique and less conformist than others, so it's difficult to find and meet such people.

>>307582
this is a good impersonal way of getting validation that might work for wizardly types. do something valuable, provide a service to a community of people and receive good feedback for it. you have to find a community that isn't completely anonymous and where content isn't transient, so that your contributions can compound and you increase the chance of your work being recognized by others.

i spent a good part of my teenage years just answering people's questions on tech forums and it was actually quite a good source of validation. even though i never made any "friends" in a traditional sense, helping people out with their questions and problems was rewarding for its own sake.

there's tons of ways of getting positive feedback from other people. probably easier than ever now that you have the internet. you just have to put yourself out there, create something interesting, help other people, provide interesting opinions and "takes" that mirror what people are already thinking about etc.

 No.307584

>>307582
>Engage with that hobby's community. Contribute to it.
lmao

 No.307598

>>307580
health, neeting, good entertainment
I guess i'm a bad person to give advice for this as i am suicidal

 No.307713

>>307582
Hobbies don't work long-term, they just give you something to do that isn't doomscrolling

 No.307714

>>307713
>Hobbies don't work long-term (for me), they just give (me) something to do that isn't doomscrolling
Is how you should have wrote your post.


 No.306088[Reply]

I'm Failed Low Tier Normie (3.5 PSL Rating), utterly autistic, haven't had friends for a decade by now (I'm just 20), can't function in any way (work-related, socially or even just within my family; I'm even too scared to talk to my biological dad or e.g my grandmother when she comes here) and every day I feel more and more angry that I have to bear this existence every second I'm alive. I can't even simply laugh at things, I'm just a manchild chud who can't be entertained and who doesn't have motivation to do anything. It's like I've been already dead for a long time now but I'm still haunted by my consciousness. I just don't have the courage to end it. I feel like a lot of you experience the same, why haven't you specifically done it?
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 No.307518

>>306125
>it wasn't fun like I thought it was
after your NEET days are over and if you don't have a comfortable job then it's truly is the end.

 No.307549

>>307493
>Very few autists enjoy life in the modern world.
Was it any better in the past? Genuine question.

 No.307550

>>307549
Fewer autists existed in the past.

 No.307568

>>307518
absolutely this. waging is soulless. so many stuff i'd like to do but come weekends i just play games and sleep because i have no willpower left for anything

 No.307569

>>307568
>so many stuff
so much


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 No.302319[Reply]

Let's discuss strategies for getting rid of pessimistic thoughts. No negativity allowed in this thread.

I know this is a meme, but taking a shower can completely turn my mood around and make my worries go away, even if it's just for a couple of hours. Listening to uplifting and happy music is also very effective for me. Sometimes I have to force myself at first, but generally it changes my mood.

What are some things you wizs do to minimize depression?
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 No.307384

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>Let's discuss strategies for getting rid of pessimistic thoughts.

that's the spirit! clearly stating the thing you want to happen. this helps the thing being born.

1) i believe the number one thing that helps you shake the pessimism is choice. embrace choice. choose to do everything you can to be healthy. the pessimism is a manifestation of auto pilot and choice is manual flight. you do your own flying by choosing to. you can choose to be healthy, you can choose to be an optimist, you can choose to say "this is fine" while sitting at the burning table no matter how strange and out of place it feels.

2) when sitting at a burning table, the impulse is to run. this only makes sense when there is somewhere to run though that isn't the burning table. the impulse to flee, not to be here, to be anywhere but here is a strong anchor into unconsciousness. i did this for decades with video games. i could not handle being a childslave forced to go to school where evil people who hate me violently tried to make me into cannonfodder so i played video games every second i could, trying to endure the torture. now i have endured the torture and i know nothing about this world because i've never been here. i was born in my late 30s.

3) habits are important. everything you do often enough you will start to do automatically and forget about and potentially not even notice when you are doing it. you have to choose to look at your habits and see if they are good for you. one after the other, question all your existing habits; which is way harder then it sounds because habits try to evade your scrutiny as to keep themselves alive; they develop a live on their own and develop self-preservation even. find the bad habits and reduce them gently, think of good new habits and do them often enough to experience something wonderful: you will be doing them automatically without having to spend conscious effort and willpower on them. i don't have to give my best to eat healthy, i have been doing it for so long that it is the only way i eat at this point.

i hope you can stay your course of positivity long enough for your efforts to become habit OP💪💪. i remember this wonderful feeling: when you do something that takes dedication that did not come easy to you and then one day when you are absent minded you notice that you are doing the thing without you having to force yourself whatsoever because the habit has formedPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.307385

>>303386

i'm reading carl jung currently, dudeman thinks dreams are how the collective unconscious tries to communicate with you. once i started trying to write down my dreams i noticed how much i was dreaming.

 No.307386

>>306441
>Saw a workbook online called Cognitive Behavioural Workbook for Depression online and decided to order it. Will report in a couple of months if it helps.

i'll read the report. when i find it i post an interesting workbook i once bought on a whim and did about half of it. it was all about drawing statistics about your life on colorful paper.

 No.307387

>>306441
>We all hear "just lift weights bruh" but it's not the only cure for depression. It's a very effective cure, but before that you need to build up your window of tolerance. I decided to start small. I'll go out and walk my dog in park early in the morning or late in the evening when nobody's around. I also want to read more new books and go back to fingerboarding. Fingerboarding is a good hobby because

dancing or at least some form of physical expression that can slowly become a dance i believe to be a necessary part of mental health. i like to skate to music and it feels like dancing. enjoying and playing with the movement mechanics of the human body is an essential part of the puzzle i almost never hear discussed or even mentioned so let me mention it here: dancing, skating, ice skating, or maybe an artistic martial arts like capoeira are necessary. at least dance to music you love with your headphones on in your room. if this feels shameful to you, it shouldn't. dance is the antidote to this shame that society tries to install on people.

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>>302319
Check my thread around self-hypnosis and mind hygiene for some tech tips if you want
Good luck and have a good life.
>>307395


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 No.307373[Reply]

anyone got a good server where guys just get on and play games or just a bunch of guys who are really active and talk
im sick of these supposed "crab" servers and no ones online, im the only guy sending 100+ msgs a day and getting no reply in return so thats why i came to this imageboard cause supposedly everyone heres alone with no one irl like me

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find one of these is very hard, if you find one plz tell me(user was warned for this post)

 No.307376

>>307375
im in one i wanna add other guys to, u can join if u want
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