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 No.307613[Reply]

Buddhism just straight up ends the subject/object split and dependent co-origination makes the whole illusion of a permanent self or creator god look like the retarded cope it is while Christianity is still stuck LARPing with its sky daddy judging your jerkoff sessions and promising eternal torture for not believing in the magic carpenter. The eightfold path dissolves the whole mess without needing some jewish blood sacrifice ritual to "save" your immortal soul from original sin bullshit that never even happened. Every time some midwit starts yapping about how le based trad christianity built the west I just remember how their dualistic garbage keeps people chained to craving and aversion like retards chasing their own tail while the dharma lets you actually see through the aggregates. Fuck this gay earth and its endless rebirths of this same midwit argument.
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 No.307622

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>>307613
Take the religion that make you happy
i took absurdism sometimes and other times thelema… and other times buddhism.. and other times… just lol
or dont take anything and dont give a damn thing about it.

 No.307676

>>307613
I don't believe Buddhism has any real doctrine based in reality. There obviously is an immaterial consciousness stuck in the bodies of humans and animals, Abrahamic religions are superior. Reincarnation is obvious bullshit too.
Some Buddhist stuff is still kind of calming. Seems more like a hobby instead of a religion.

 No.307680

>>307676
Buddhism is not a religion, it was made to be a religion by shitheads morons who follow without understanding. It is more of a approach to life that prevents you being duhkha'd too much

 No.307782

>>307680
Pretty sure Buddhists themselves describe and view themselves as practicing a religion.

 No.307793

>>307680
Buddhism is spiritual and demands a belief in a multitude of alternate plains of existence and creation theories.
>It is more of a approach to life that prevents you being duhkha'd too much
How so? By convincing people that everything in existence is Dunkha and that they should try to die as soon as possible to not become consumed by it?


 No.306959[Reply]

I have a lot of faults of my own, perhaps my current predicament is entirely my fault. I have no friends. No one to talk to. But things are worse, I was born and currently live in a really hated country on this planet but regardless it could've always been worse, I could've been a prisoner in North Korea or on the menu in Africa for a good hearty meaty meal.

The true tragedy is I am significantly over than 21, I have a very rocky relationship with my parents, who abused the hell out of me, and I literally shake and tremble in fear when my parents are angry, I can feel pain in my heart. But guess what I am over 21 years of age and they are not bound by any law to take any care of me at all but they still do, they have also helped me a lot, while I don't wish them harm, I do wish I lived away from them.

And of course I am unemployed, to a great extent, I get talked down on daily basis, while I am grateful for what my parents have done for me, I am grateful for what normies have done for me by making wonderful things like mobiles and games. I do not like the fact that my father has a carte blanche to say anything to me and do anything to me, I am grateful for society for giving me mobiles and games, as I said. But I don't like how my value is only derived from what I earn.

If I don't earn, I am a pest, a drain on resources, my parents treat me like I am disposable, with no respect, at all. And why should they cause love isn't unconditional because if they loved me unconditionally, maybe I would've abused them instead. No such thing as that.

I just want to die but I am terrified of dying without living for once. I live in an honor culture mixed with Western Style liberalism and as an unemployed person, I am the lowest common denominator in them. Money has somehow turned out to be more important than I expected it to be, I mean money is water, money is food, and money is roof. I knew that but I didn't knew how.

I have never spent a day of my life that wasn't in constant anxiety and worrying about something, not a single day in my life where I could claim that 'Yes, it was a good day.'. Perhaps I am like one of those weird females who don't want solutions to their problems but they just want to be heard, when they talk, if you know what I mean. And it surprises me that I have an iota in common with succubi.

As I said a lot of fault lies with me, I have tried for jobs, and tried for online ways to earn. But pePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.307379

>>307366
When thinking about reincarnation I keep wondering why the hell would God, the Universe or whatever limit you to just one planet, just to one species. Never understood this point of view.
Also, even though pajeeting is a horrible prospect for the afterlife but I can think of thousand worse hells.

 No.307381

>>307374
wizhell
i'd actually pick north korea over it

 No.307382

>>307374
>I am surprised why my parents decided to have me in poverty
Most kids born in India and China are expected to provide for the parents after 20 years or so. Your parents took that gamble and lost.

 No.307758

An incident happened with me today because my father doesn't do proper maintenance of things and instead called some discount guy to do it and he ruined the appliance, he started to shout at me, as if it was my fault.

Never in my life have I wanted to put a kick right into someone's head like today. But I pray to the lord everyday that my father dies. That Pajeet has ruined my life and I have to take it cause I am unemployed. So the world tells me that I should be grateful even if he now has a carte blanche to abuse the fuck out of me.

I swear to god, I really want this motherfucker to be struck by lightning, one way or another. I hope this piece of shit suffers the worst cancer known to mankind and does as early as possible. I hope someone nukes this country and put an end to pathetic suffering.

 No.307759

if you off yourself you kinda hand it to them, but if you can get away from them and break contact, you win

in my view at least, I would find enjoyment knowing they cant touch me anymore and they dont even know what I am up to

then if you still want to off yourself, I would make sure they would never know

again, just my personal view


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 No.307580[Reply]

I am really tired
How can I find happiness independant of other people?
I cant deny I feel the need for connection, but it always ends poorly for me
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 No.307583

realistically what you really crave is just validation. connection is when you're validated by another person's existence because they share your world view or identity. that's difficult for wizardly types because we are more unique and less conformist than others, so it's difficult to find and meet such people.

>>307582
this is a good impersonal way of getting validation that might work for wizardly types. do something valuable, provide a service to a community of people and receive good feedback for it. you have to find a community that isn't completely anonymous and where content isn't transient, so that your contributions can compound and you increase the chance of your work being recognized by others.

i spent a good part of my teenage years just answering people's questions on tech forums and it was actually quite a good source of validation. even though i never made any "friends" in a traditional sense, helping people out with their questions and problems was rewarding for its own sake.

there's tons of ways of getting positive feedback from other people. probably easier than ever now that you have the internet. you just have to put yourself out there, create something interesting, help other people, provide interesting opinions and "takes" that mirror what people are already thinking about etc.

 No.307584

>>307582
>Engage with that hobby's community. Contribute to it.
lmao

 No.307598

>>307580
health, neeting, good entertainment
I guess i'm a bad person to give advice for this as i am suicidal

 No.307713

>>307582
Hobbies don't work long-term, they just give you something to do that isn't doomscrolling

 No.307714

>>307713
>Hobbies don't work long-term (for me), they just give (me) something to do that isn't doomscrolling
Is how you should have wrote your post.


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 No.306437[Reply]

Does anyone else voluntarily exile themselves from society?

I'm tired of socializing, drama, human interests, social demands, social everything.

I wish I was a machine instead of a talking ape. I actually hate being an animal.
I don't even hate people, I just don't want to be in any contact with them. I even hate my own body for forcing me to eat and wash in order to not completely dysfunction.
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 No.307190

>I even hate my own body for forcing me to eat and wash in order to not completely dysfunction.
This is why you can't protect your solitude.

One can only achieve exile if one can make themselves ugly and stinky. This is why monks shave their heads and wear rags. As long as you care about your appearance and hygiene someone will always care.

If you want to be a hermit even within society, just stop showering and people will leave you alone.

 No.307380

I'm doing this now. It's for the best. I quite literally have about 100 family members that I used to be in somewhat contact with, but now i shut off as much as possible. 30+ cousins I just dont respond to, of course all the unc/aunties too. I can't handle the stress and judgement and intrusions they force into my life. I can't stand my grandma and older relatives repeating the same questions and stories over and over non stop. Im beetter off online working the least amount of hours possible. Ideally I'll have an apartment of my own soon. The worst part is when these people try to find me at work… very annoying

 No.307383

>>307190
>One can only achieve exile if one can make themselves ugly and stinky.

you'd think this is a valid approach, i did try this.

when i was molested hard by females i stopped brushing my teeth, believing it would make my breath smell so horrible that the succubi leave me alone. this did not really work, i was still swarmed.

dressing as plain as i could, wearing sunglasses everywhere and hiding my long hair did help somewhat but what unfortunately draws the female attention is joy of life, health, connection with source, optimism, lack of corruption. so the only way is to act to be sickly, weak and depressed. basically you can't be happy even though it is easily possible for a human because if you are, females will block your path rugby-style and violently force you to give them attention. they are the worst rapists, they have no concept of consent whatsoever for other people; only for themselves.

 No.307593

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Yes I semi-voluntarily cut ties off from society.

In fact, I made it a point to create an almost complete blackout of year 2000 culture and later.

I surrounded myself with pre-1990s, culture only, only listening to obscure Italo-Disco or Japanese music from the 80s.

I stopped listening to radio, stopped watching TV, stopped going to movies.

My only contact with modern culture is what I inadvertantly see when I go outside, indie games and synthwave/juchewave. But synthwave/juchewave is idiosyncratic enough to keep me well-insulated from prevailing culture, so I consider it safe.

If I am at my mother's house, I will leave the room if she starts watching TV. If she mutes the TV, I'll try to look away from the screen.

I block advertising on youtube not merely for the annoyance of advertising but also because it is contemporary cultural rot.

With the exception of my mother, I stopped talking to my family about 20 years ago. I do not have any friends or contacts online.

I do not work. Haven't worked for decades. I have no social circle IRL.

I have the same backpack, clothes from 20 years ago. I wear a cheap casio watch. No cellphone/smartphone.

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 No.307594

>>307383
BTFO them. Don't interact with them. Exclude them. Ignore them.


 No.306088[Reply]

I'm Failed Low Tier Normie (3.5 PSL Rating), utterly autistic, haven't had friends for a decade by now (I'm just 20), can't function in any way (work-related, socially or even just within my family; I'm even too scared to talk to my biological dad or e.g my grandmother when she comes here) and every day I feel more and more angry that I have to bear this existence every second I'm alive. I can't even simply laugh at things, I'm just a manchild chud who can't be entertained and who doesn't have motivation to do anything. It's like I've been already dead for a long time now but I'm still haunted by my consciousness. I just don't have the courage to end it. I feel like a lot of you experience the same, why haven't you specifically done it?
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 No.307518

>>306125
>it wasn't fun like I thought it was
after your NEET days are over and if you don't have a comfortable job then it's truly is the end.

 No.307549

>>307493
>Very few autists enjoy life in the modern world.
Was it any better in the past? Genuine question.

 No.307550

>>307549
Fewer autists existed in the past.

 No.307568

>>307518
absolutely this. waging is soulless. so many stuff i'd like to do but come weekends i just play games and sleep because i have no willpower left for anything

 No.307569

>>307568
>so many stuff
so much


 No.297753[Reply]

How do you guys fight anhedonia? Do you have any experience with it?
I basically don't feel pleasure from anything except food, maybe. Stories, games, art don't really touch me at all and it sucks because I remember how much I loved escapism before and how it brought excitement, joy, sadness etc. Now it's all blank. I want to bring emotions back, want to bring excitement, joy, even sweet sadness would do honestly, I miss being profoundly sad.

Have any of you managed to revert to your older non-anhedonic self?
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 No.305610

>>302015
mind = blown

>>304656
narc

 No.305617

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>>297753
>How do you guys fight anhedonia?
Have you tried nicotine?

 No.307413

I fight anhedonia with high ABV beer. But I only get drunk on Friday evening. I'm sober the rest of the time.

When I'm drunk (not wasted), I enjoy playing videogames, I enjoy music.

 No.307442

>>301975
>Life with anhedonai feels pointless. No pleasure, no point? Like why do anything. I just end up doing nothing

This.

 No.307449

>>305617
I tried it. It kinda works, but the nicotine burnout was unpleasant and accidently overdosing on velo pouches is worse than any hangover i've ever had


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 No.302319[Reply]

Let's discuss strategies for getting rid of pessimistic thoughts. No negativity allowed in this thread.

I know this is a meme, but taking a shower can completely turn my mood around and make my worries go away, even if it's just for a couple of hours. Listening to uplifting and happy music is also very effective for me. Sometimes I have to force myself at first, but generally it changes my mood.

What are some things you wizs do to minimize depression?
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 No.307384

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>Let's discuss strategies for getting rid of pessimistic thoughts.

that's the spirit! clearly stating the thing you want to happen. this helps the thing being born.

1) i believe the number one thing that helps you shake the pessimism is choice. embrace choice. choose to do everything you can to be healthy. the pessimism is a manifestation of auto pilot and choice is manual flight. you do your own flying by choosing to. you can choose to be healthy, you can choose to be an optimist, you can choose to say "this is fine" while sitting at the burning table no matter how strange and out of place it feels.

2) when sitting at a burning table, the impulse is to run. this only makes sense when there is somewhere to run though that isn't the burning table. the impulse to flee, not to be here, to be anywhere but here is a strong anchor into unconsciousness. i did this for decades with video games. i could not handle being a childslave forced to go to school where evil people who hate me violently tried to make me into cannonfodder so i played video games every second i could, trying to endure the torture. now i have endured the torture and i know nothing about this world because i've never been here. i was born in my late 30s.

3) habits are important. everything you do often enough you will start to do automatically and forget about and potentially not even notice when you are doing it. you have to choose to look at your habits and see if they are good for you. one after the other, question all your existing habits; which is way harder then it sounds because habits try to evade your scrutiny as to keep themselves alive; they develop a live on their own and develop self-preservation even. find the bad habits and reduce them gently, think of good new habits and do them often enough to experience something wonderful: you will be doing them automatically without having to spend conscious effort and willpower on them. i don't have to give my best to eat healthy, i have been doing it for so long that it is the only way i eat at this point.

i hope you can stay your course of positivity long enough for your efforts to become habit OP💪💪. i remember this wonderful feeling: when you do something that takes dedication that did not come easy to you and then one day when you are absent minded you notice that you are doing the thing without you having to force yourself whatsoever because the habit has formedPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.307385

>>303386

i'm reading carl jung currently, dudeman thinks dreams are how the collective unconscious tries to communicate with you. once i started trying to write down my dreams i noticed how much i was dreaming.

 No.307386

>>306441
>Saw a workbook online called Cognitive Behavioural Workbook for Depression online and decided to order it. Will report in a couple of months if it helps.

i'll read the report. when i find it i post an interesting workbook i once bought on a whim and did about half of it. it was all about drawing statistics about your life on colorful paper.

 No.307387

>>306441
>We all hear "just lift weights bruh" but it's not the only cure for depression. It's a very effective cure, but before that you need to build up your window of tolerance. I decided to start small. I'll go out and walk my dog in park early in the morning or late in the evening when nobody's around. I also want to read more new books and go back to fingerboarding. Fingerboarding is a good hobby because

dancing or at least some form of physical expression that can slowly become a dance i believe to be a necessary part of mental health. i like to skate to music and it feels like dancing. enjoying and playing with the movement mechanics of the human body is an essential part of the puzzle i almost never hear discussed or even mentioned so let me mention it here: dancing, skating, ice skating, or maybe an artistic martial arts like capoeira are necessary. at least dance to music you love with your headphones on in your room. if this feels shameful to you, it shouldn't. dance is the antidote to this shame that society tries to install on people.

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>>302319
Check my thread around self-hypnosis and mind hygiene for some tech tips if you want
Good luck and have a good life.
>>307395


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 No.307373[Reply]

anyone got a good server where guys just get on and play games or just a bunch of guys who are really active and talk
im sick of these supposed "crab" servers and no ones online, im the only guy sending 100+ msgs a day and getting no reply in return so thats why i came to this imageboard cause supposedly everyone heres alone with no one irl like me

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find one of these is very hard, if you find one plz tell me(user was warned for this post)

 No.307376

>>307375
im in one i wanna add other guys to, u can join if u want
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 No.305809[Reply]

"Hey wizanon… did you go through a similar thing?"

I will never forgive this world, my ancestors, my genes, my family, those people. I will especially, never forgive myself. My adolesence was robbed from me. I could've eaten better, I could've been stronger, I could've said no to all the evil people who abused me, humiliated me, bullied me, took advantage of me. I can pretend to be happy in moments of fantasy, but my baseline is always depression because I have been robbed so completely.

What did I do to deserve this fate? Who was I in my past life to deserve being in such a position? If I had eaten better, I could've grown to my true height. If I had said no and held steadfast, I could've fought back against them. If I had shown some semblance of courage, I could've made happy memories in my youth.

I am 23 years old. You might say that is young. But I have lost the most important years of my growth and development. I have wasted them by suffering emotionally and physically with no fault of my own. I have wasted them by letting others rob me of what I had, my dignity, my reputation, my identity, my resources. I dropped out of school with so much hope, I was truly so happy, only to suffer far more than I ever have at the hands of forces beyond my control.

No matter what I do now, as much as I would love to believe otherwise, there is absolutely nothing I could do to compensate for what I have lost. Nothing I could do replace those days. Nothing I could do to get back what I lost forever. What's been robbed was meant to be robbed permanently. I can only mourn and ache for the rest of my life, aching for the things I was supposed to have but will never get back.
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 No.307158

>>307156
In his case how is this thought going to help him?

 No.307159

>>305809
>>307152
I have nothing to say to you brother but I feel the same. I relate to this on a deeper level.

 No.307160

hey iam 1.83m and i will get height surgery to make it 1.95m you should KYS now it's over for you

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>>305809
>I am 23 years old. You might say that is young. But I have lost the most important years of my growth and development.
yes, but don't worry, that is all still too little compared to the future

 No.307246

>>305809
Yes, I went through something similar. I regret not running away or hanging myself as a teenager. There is this wish to permanently leave this world through hanging. Soon I will experience what comes after death. If there is nothing I will stop experiencing this nightmare too.


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 No.306157[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
ice cold edition
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 No.307256

>>307022
>>307020
kiwifarms drove him to suicide.

 No.307358

My schizophrenic voices harassing me again. I don't believe they originate from inside my head, but try to talk to people about this idea and it degenerates into "No, absolutely not you schizo and if you think anything outside purely material reality exists you need to kill yourself" or "Yeah I agree! And the pyramids are sending me signals telling me I need to construct the next ark of the covenant in order to summon a star god"

 No.307592

hmmm look at that landscape, it looks so lonely, as if someone could get drepressed there

 No.307740

>>306830
You're welcome

The answer there is recognising gates and plateaus of skill. What ability and degree of competence unlocks a gate to the *next* dependent relevant skill, and how far you can/should pursue it before diminishing returns becomes a factor, and what signals indicate you need to maintain your skill level, because everything decays that is not maintained.

Currently I'm working towards making good steaks consistently in a gas range - because I haven't had a gas range all my adult life.

The path is - make omlettes, by which I learned heat control and temperature management + an understanding of what makes a good pan.
Then pan fried peppers, by which I learned correct and effective methods for chopping and ingredient prep + purchasing and becoming familiar with suitable cutlery, because 'a knife' is not just a knife and there are wide gulfs between them.
Then - eventually, not there yet - custom cuts of meat to a specific grade, for a specific cooking strategy.

A big problem with western - and very specifically American/Taylorisation, is the idea that a skill can be taught out of whole cloth, that the necessary steps just need to be followed, however long it may be from point zero, to achieve a goal. Think the rejection of phonics because "Every adult just reads the same way and we are wasting time teaching sounds when letters are what matter."

This is simply not the case, the correct approach demonstrated by kaizen in .jp is continuous plateaued improvement, where some skills simply exist to scaffold the development of the higher order skills necessary to achieve the actual goal. I've recently Re-read The Puritan Gift which goes into great detail why the second method works, and why the first and wrong method became popular and entrenched.

 No.308429

>>306780

>Like you wanted something, but were denied and not only rejected, but maybe shouted at for being selfish for even harboring desires.

Scary thing is, the definition of "sin" is so easy to manipulate literally any expression of ego can be labelled as a mortal sin or two or more.

>Eventually you stop
Sad!

Just in case.
Today, I had an argument. A battle of egos, basically. Good thing it was a relatively peaceful talk…


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