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 No.308328[Reply]

There's been several major deaths in my family over the past few years. People that actually respected me and whose company I enjoyed. They're all gone now. Tomorrow, I will have to call some of them and finish up some things I've been putting off for almost a decade now.

I tried to find a picture of something happy. Here is a picture of an ice cream cone.

 No.308329

>>308328
My condolences wiz. After a decade, getting that stuff done will be a weight off your shoulders I imagine. My gran is getting worse too, she has dementia, I think. Despite her having been a huge part of my childhood though, the prospect of her dying doesn't make me feel any particular kind of way. We haven't had much contact for a decade and I guess childhood is far enough away at this point that it feels like a different life entirely. Yet I do not look forward to the arrangements and all that and I'm terrified of something happening to my mom.

 No.308331

>>308329
>Despite her having been a huge part of my childhood though, the prospect of her dying doesn't make me feel any particular kind of way
That's the normal human adult male response. You can weep for the tragedy of an untimely demise that obliterates any hopes you had for good times together in the future. You can shed tears of joy and the good memories you've shared. It makes no sense however to cry for someone who lived long enough to expire naturally. Someone whose existence has become tiresome, and who can no longer create good times for themselves or their family, ought to have their life cheered as opposed to having their death grieved.

 No.308333

>>308331
I suppose that might be part of it. As cruel as it sounds, it has become tiresome to talk to her on the phone and always having the same conversation. How her friends are slowly decaying around her, how her nausea is better/worse than last time I called, how cute my cousin's newborn is. And always the phrase that "everyone wants to grow old but nobody actually wants to be old.". But strangely enough, my mother told me about her colleagues dog being diagnosed with a terminal lung tumor over the weekend and that wrenched my heart. I suppose because in my mind it felt more shocking that this big, kind, fuzzy creature should perish all of a sudden, no longer being able to experience the simple joys of being a dog with a loving family.
How is it for you anon? How close were you with your family? You say they respected you and you enjoyed their company but how does the loss actually feel for you?

 No.308351

life is temporary

memento mori



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 No.308138[Reply]

I read up on the best ways to do it, charcoal seemed one of the better ones so I went with that. Bought it a few days ago and I've been dwelling on wether I should light the fire. I think I'll finally do it, I can't really find any hope in continuing on anymore.
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 No.308303

>>308302

Yeah, wiz, it's not that easy.

A few days ago, I was reading Emil Cioran, and some of his quotes really got to me. Sometimes the thought that there's an exit somewhere feels strangely comforting, but at the same time, the fear of death never really goes away. It's hard to explain.

I tried to kill myself once, but I'm still here. Working, crying, sleeping, repeating. I don't know how long any of us can keep going, but finding hope gets harder every year…

 No.308304

>>308138
Like other wiz asked, are u still here?

 No.308313

>>308198
So it's like the helium method but with charcoal fumes?

 No.308316

>>308313
I don't actually know how it's done. i thought you just stood over it and breathed the fumes in

 No.308317

>>308313
It happens on accident sometimes, the power goes out and people bring the BBQ inside for warmth or to cook and that = whole family dead.



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 No.307945[Reply]

I thought that at 44 years old this stuff wouldn't get at me anymore but I was wrong.

All those cute couples rollerblading. Young mothers pushing strollers and smiling. People laughing in the park. People playing soccer in the field. Everyone is so happy, so content with their lot in life. They are so well-adjusted to this life.

People talking in upbeat tones. Groups of people socializing, laughing, smiling.

Everywhere I went today it was like this.
Its amazing how easy life is when you are neurotypical. It's like everything falls into place without much struggle and effort. You are always pre-programmed to get the most out of life without having to do anything special to make it happen.
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 No.307976

>>307956
He would probably be happier being wizuncle but has no one
>>307961
Not really fair because most people here probably grew up in lower socio-economic strata where the people around them were low-functioning e.g. no emotional intelligence

 No.308284

>>307945
I don't know about the people part as I don't leave my space more than once a month or so.
The weather though… fucking hell.
Fuck spring/summer lately.
One day it's almost 30C the next it's 5-10C or lower and then back to hot.

Insane humidity swings and temperature swings are fucking with me physically.

 No.308309

>>307945
I am neurotypical and I am here.

 No.308314

I also find it painful to be reminded of happy cheerful people while I am very miserable and completely rotting away.
Still wouldn't want to be a normie though.

 No.308315

>>308314
>normie



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 No.307210[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.

Previous:
>>306157
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 No.308318

>>308250
That is not really what I highlighted, it is the obesssion of generations, regardless if it is genz, boomer etc. I never remember this obsession 20-25 years ago, internet or not other then the occational thing. It actually appears opposite, the younger generation seems more obsessed than the older.

 No.308330

>>308326
impregnate her again!

 No.308335

realized chronic mild discomfort i've been thinking was bladder cancer or something catastrophic was just me getting fatter and now my underwear is too tight for my fat ass

like that cliche of the frog sitting in water that is slowly brought to a boil…

didn't think my slow weight gain would get to this point… it's very uncomfortable not being able to wear anything at the moment without feeling constricted. but i'm mostly scared i won't be able to make the change and get my weight back down

 No.308372

>>308326
Why would she be devastated over this ?
A 2 weeks lump of cell is not a baby.
It's not like she lost a limb, which is permanent. Now that would be devastating.

Trying is not a huge effort in itself, it's not like she's manually crafting every cell, it's a passive process.
She just gets impregnated and if her matrix is in good condition, the biological program compiles itself.

And why would you be also devastated over a 2 weeks lump of cells ?
Are you a female ?

 No.308409

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I'm exhausted.

Officially a wizard for a month or so now.
Let my health go pretty bad.
Just see no point in doing or working towards anything. Never have is the problem.
I did nothing, I do nothing.
There is no feeling of reward to anything, no satisfaction that most others seem to derive from their progress.
Even the physical agonies getting worse don't seem to motivate.
Why?
Terrified of death, panic at the thought of oblivion, yet I do nothing to even delay it.
30 years of life and nothing to show for it.

Recently someone told me unprompted that I need long term goals, but goals stem from desires do they not?
I can't say I have none, but each time I tug at any one of them for more than the duration of a daydream it seems it fades away.
The issue is that it is likely the key to salvation. A goal set to a date so I can split the time until it and work towards it, feel the progress and whatnot… I just can't find one that my brain doesn't pick apart.

Without this I already see weeks, months, years going by in the blink of an eye as I lose grasp on time wageslaving.
All things considered I have it better than I deserve. Still it feels futile…


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 No.307439[Reply]

I don't know, I'm 24 years old and basically I haven't done anything but stay in my room. I'm usually on the computer and reading books, although lately I've let myself go and just been eating snacks and using Steam. Being flooded with strange thoughts, I've tried to write to you all, but the writings are even stranger. I also know I'm very slow because I'm contemplative, and in general, I find it hard to adapt to anything or do anything. I don't know how to do anything particularly well, and feeling like everything outside is such a rushed, chaotic, dangerous world… I don't know, it scares me. I feel worried about my future. Although I feel good walking in the woods, I don't even know why I'm writing this. I don't know, like many other things, I just wanted to write it, maybe with a hidden reason inside me. I haven't been feeling well lately, although it's been an interesting and incredible trip. I'm sleepy. Hugs to everyone, I love you all.
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 No.307547

>>307546
come on man, don't say foolishness.
suffering is great it gives to life a fine taste.

 No.308048

>>307439
how are you now, wizzie? :(

 No.308064

>>307539
I don't think so, there's a very clear difference from the normie-ingroup and the outcasts, wizards and neets.

 No.308288

>>308064
Which?

 No.308289

>>307538
>Normies



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 No.307395[Reply]

Ok i gonna give you some advice around hypnosis and mind (the thread of magick tech have some info books and etc around this)
>how its works?
Just imagine a kid waking up by her mom/father/tutor in the morning yelling out him with insults while maybe hit the kid, this kid will have the day ruined maybe with bad humour and negative ideas (imagine this everyday, of the childhood) and it will feel like a total piece of shit, the other personal thing of this kid doesnt matter for now but get the outcome.
now compare this to a kid waking up by her mom/father/tutor with a warm -good day, today is a good day!- in a soft loving tone voice while try to maybe hurry the kid a little or help the kid to wake up (or even try to wake up the kid with more time to not hurry you too much)

These two kids in the waking up (even adults) are incredible suggestionable, just imagine who of the two will have a more good outcome in the day, and even in the next day if the first phrases they listen when wake up and enter in the mind are like
-Wake up little piece of useless meat-shit asshole fuc…! hit and yell the kid*-
and
-Good morning, honey, kiss in the forehead while some family touch* its a warm day, wake up you need to go to prepare for school!-
You get it?

>Mind Hygiene

Try to no listen to sad music, sad pop music etc (lana del rey, billie eilish and etc)
Try to no listen to sad music before bed/before sleep/when wake up
Try to no listen to music that trigger rumiation or bad sad ideas, even before bed
Try to no listen sad music when you just wake up (you still can listen happy energy music)
Try to no rumiate before sleep or have bad sad ideas bacause maybe you can wake up with that idea in mind in the wake up and this maybe can ruin your next day
Try to no watch sad or deppresive things in media, or get straight out of the media and ignore it
Try to listen to happy energy music in some activies to make a constant trigger for you when you need it (the same sad trigger of music can be made with a happy trigger of energy happy music)
Try to NO have negative ideas or rumiation when you just wake up (next tip explain it why and how to use this in a positive way around hypnosis) and if you got into it, try to use a reality check technique later i mention
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 No.307673

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>>307623
This Canada study have some training techniques, theories of how suggestion work and explanation of expectancy of why the autosuggestion work or suddenly stop to work for some people (related to expectancy lol)
>Also
Adam Eason book about clynical self-hypnosis have the techniques for hypnosis just in the first pages, the latter pages are tips or more techniques or how to use it.

 No.307871

>>307673
From
>Carleton Skills Training Program to improve hypnotizability
Read it, very Useful.

 No.307881

>>307871
This read around Hypnosis maybe can be interesting
https://www.cosmic-pancakes.com/blog/pheno-control

 No.308218

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>>307673
>>307871
>>307881
This book around Clinical hypnosis and CBT and the books of Michael D. Yapko are interesting, these have some good tips for self-hypnosis or methods for treatment for deppresion for lay people and therapists.
The Adam Eason book is still a good book for start.
>Also
Yapko focus is non-drug-based therapies in the treatment of depression, his focus is Process-Oriented Hypnosis for some problems.

 No.308280

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>>307395
>>308218
>The New Harbinger books
The New Harbinger books have a lot of books around self-help method based in techniques around therapies like CBT, DBT, ACT etc if you want to investigate more techniques or skills training that have some scientific support that help.
>Its just a worksheet with instructions to write bullshit and learn nothing like a dialog of a NPC?
No, its not just a worksheet like these for help during therapy session working, these books are like manuals with explanations of methods techniques and training in skills.
Good luck, Wiz.



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 No.305362[Reply]

I miss being a proper neet so much and im jealous of people who can be
I miss just being able to play some stupid game 12 hours a day and watch videos on the side
i still dont have friends or a gf so what am I doing
everything is worse
my body
my mind
my freedom
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 No.307516

>I miss being a proper neet so much and im jealous of people who can be
Same, strictly speaking I am a neet, but health issues make my life unbearable. Only the rope can release me from this crap

 No.308177

>>306724
> I wanted to move to SEA after grinding but nope
Why not? As much as it's nice to have expendable money it's really not worth it if you have to keep working for it IMO. I'd much rather save up and then live frugally as a NEET as long as possible in some third world country.

 No.308181

I'm just enough of a sperg to fail all chances at getting ahead, but not enough for neetbux. I'm lucky to have landed a job that values loyalty (getting crapped on for years) over excellence so I can coast I guess.

 No.308182

My first time being NEET it drained me and made me mentally ill, but I was far younger and thought I was missing out on life. 15 years later I now know that life has nothing to offer, and it's getting worse fast. I wish I could become NEET again, even if I had to be rather poor to do so. All I need is a room and PC

 No.308227

I'd rather check out than eventually getting a job, in which involves waking up early having to cook travel to my wageslave center in which I will be waging 8 hours while interacting with normgroids and then traveling back to cook again and wash the dishes before cleaning the house with no energy left in the little time that I have for myself, no amount of money is worth that life. At least I would accept work as a farmer for more hours a day since I wouldn't be cucking to some privileged retard bossing me around.



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 No.305314[Reply]

Was reading "Look Me in The Eye" and was inspired by the phrase, "He'll remember this when he's 40." What are those things that people said to you that you never forgot? Can be positive or negative, recent or distant past.

In 9th or 10th grade, a random succubus who wasn't even in my class said, "There's something wrong your shirt. Everytime I see you there's something wrong with you." I don't know why she was in my classroom, and I never saw her again afterwards. Of course I said nothing like a pathetic slave. They echo in my mind almost 10 years after.
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 No.308204

My dad's friend said something along the lines of the world will eat you alive or it will beat you into a pulp.

 No.308206

>>308204
Your dad's friend is out of touch. The reality is that life will either chew you up and spit you out, or it will sweep you under the rug.

 No.308207

>>308206
isn't what his dads friend said??

 No.308212

>>308207
some are lucky enough to be forgotten, I much prefer that than being beaten to a pulp with medical issues etc

 No.308225

>>308206
I mean all his children turned out alright.



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 No.306970[Reply]

I've seen this discussed in many threads so I made a thread for it. Many wizzies had had their life destroyed by psychiatric medication be it SSRI's, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines or others. A psych ward stay tends to leave you worse off. Some people get abused in psychiatric institutions. Mentioning you are sad and thinking about suicide to a doctor or nurse can get you forcefully restrained and tranquilised.
I'm suicidal but I avoid any medical help precisely for this reason.
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 No.308152

>>308081
You are speaking as someone who is already informed of this and has some idea of how to use it as a tool while simultaneously avoiding the worst of it.
The average guy who suddenly develops audio hallucinations or gets suicidal will just get antipsychotics which destroy him.
I guess it is good for you you have the ability to extract value from the system.
But I avoid engaging with it entirely.

 No.308165

>>308152
I get what you are saying but as I said this is every system. Legal system, tax system, medical system/normal doctors, how employment works. We live in a world where everything is designed to degrade you and extract as much value out of you as possible and spit you out. Psychology isn't special in that it's just another instance and the average guy needs to know that just as well for all those other situations he can't avoid.

 No.308169

>>308165
>We live in a world where everything is designed to degrade you and extract as much value out of you as possible
I don't think the current decline and dysfunction is really because people tend to extract value. More like a certain way of thinking dominates, everything has to be "locked down", similar to each other, homogenised, unpleasant and every other approach or way of doing things is bad or "doesn't even exist"

 No.308170

>>308169
It's just a humiliation ritual.

 No.308175

>>308170
yeah this too but the system tricks you a little bit by constantly humiliating those outside of it
while those outside of it don't have to suffer from it
like neets don't have to suffer from humiliation at work and won't even read propaganda like "being unemployed means you are humiliated"
it's full of stupid lies like that
I definitely agree these humiliation rituals are insufferable and make people want to neet and such



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 No.307723[Reply]

Very late 20s. Never been on a date, never been approached. Never had any friends, only acquaintances. Not even meme internet "friends". I always thought these things would naturally come to me at a later age, but they never did. With each passing year it gets worse. There is something profoundly wrong with me, it's like the part of my brain that's responsible for human contact was amputated at birth
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 No.307949

>>307731
Depressingly true.
I used to have online friends when I was a fun clown in MMOs and later when I was hardcore high rank in a moba…
Never since.
Though to be fair I never looked for them outright either or asked to join or whatever.
>dry up like plants and die off.
Unfortunately. If you have a multiyear or decade long lay-down-and-rot episode you are just stuck alone forever.

 No.307958

>>307949
>Unfortunately. If you have a multiyear or decade long lay-down-and-rot episode you are just stuck alone forever.

No social obligations, no letting people down, no emotional stress from others, a lot cheaper without stuff like dinners and events, no helping people move, maximum free time for hobbies, interests, etc.

so it's not necessarily "unfortunately", but it is true… very hard to recover from looooong breaks of many things

somethings come back like riding a bike…

others truly atrophy and die.

or you just give up and don't try anymore so it might as well be dead…just slowly rotting

>Though to be fair I never looked for them outright


Were you just not motivated? Or was something holding you back

 No.307966

>>307958
That all sounds nice, but I was killing myself mentally.
Stress and neglect combined ruined my health for good in many ways.
>or you just give up and don't try anymore so it might as well be dead…just slowly rotting
Pretty much. At some point I just surrendered. I truly tried to do a lot of things, maybe it's some mental problem, but I could just never act on anything that wasn't directly stimulating.
At some point even those lost any appeal.

>others truly atrophy and die.

Indeed, to the point where I developed panic attacks whenever I'm around people or even talk to them over voice calls lately.
I can't even control it. It's very weird.

>Were you just not motivated? Or was something holding you back

Much was lost as you say. I lost interest in most if not all things and without caring about anything, what do you even talk about with people?
I asked an anon this above >>307748 and the response was as expected… they don't have much to talk about with people either.
What would I even do if I had friends? I can't tell you.

I was motivated for a bit.
I tried to reignite a passion for yugioh (childhood love) spent a good chunk of time going to local gatherings, but it didn't work out.
I couldn't connect to people at all aside from the somewhat forced interactions due to the nature of the engagement/game.
The panic attacks got worse too, but I forced it for almost a year.
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 No.308012

>>307723
>Very late 20s. Never been on a date, never been approached. Never had any friends, only acquaintances
All that plus, never had a job, never had any respect, never had any friends either to confide to like you and the ones that I did have never really talked to me after school/college etc. I just wish everyday that I go and sleep that this sleep should be my last.
>>307729
>we're fundamentally victims of poverty, not of money or resources, but experiences. if you don't have the right experiences by a certain age, it's over
completely agree with that except I am actually a victim of being short on money and resources as well
>even if someone gave me friends and a gf on a silver plater, i wouldn't know what to do with them, i would feel nothing
This is where I would partially disagree with you, while it's true that it would be hard to navigate a situation like this, I doubt that people can truly accept and find solace without having someone, hate to say it, but I think all of us hooomans are wired the same way, even introverts, and recluses. That to some degree, their biology, their heart, and mind require someone to be with them for companionship.

 No.308014

>>307958
>maximum free time for hobbies, interests, etc.
Unless you're a programmer, you are basically stuck reading books and watching anime if you wish to avoid social obligations, letting people down and emotional stress from others.



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