/dep/ - Depression

>>232438
fuck you
if God does his best to not be proven to exist then why the fuck should i let him live in my head RENT FREE?
i doesnt fuckin matter if God exists or not because it wont change shit. rich get richer poor get poorer movies over fade to black the end. its all meaningless.

>>232418
Could this explain wizard's hatred of religion and God?

>In his essay on Leonardo da Vinci, Freud remarks that "psychoanalysis, which has taught us the intimate connection between the father complex and belief in God, has shown us that the personal God is logically nothing but an exalted father, and daily demonstrates to us how youthful persons lose their religious belief as soon as the authority of the father breaks down."

>Freud makes the simple and easily understandable claim that once a child or youth is disappointed in or loses respect for his earthly father, belief in a heavenly father becomes impossible. That a child's psychological representation of his father is intimately connected to his understanding of God was assumed by Freud and has been rather well developed by a number of psychologists, especially psychoanalysts. In other words, an atheist's disappointment in and resentment of his own father unconsciously justifies his rejection of God.

Source: Paul Vitz - Faith of the Fatherless: The Psychology of Atheism.

The author lists famous atheist philosophers such as Nietzsche, Hume, Bertrand Russell, Sartre, Camus and Schopenhauer as having dead fathers, as well as Hobbes, Jean Meslier, Voltaire, Jean d'Alembert, Baron d'Holbach, Ludwig Feuerbach, Samuel Butler, Freud, and H. G. Wells as having weak and abusive fathers. He claims that Nietzsche invented the 'superman' concept as a replacement father figure for himself. Voltaire changed his name to 'Voltaire' to avoid using his father's last name in his name, and his first written play was Oedipal in nature.

>>233999
>once a child or youth is disappointed in or loses respect for his earthly father, belief in a heavenly father becomes impossible
Maybe when a person develops some critical thinking he realizes his father is flawed and religion is bullshit at the same time, I don't think it necessarily means those two are connected.

>>232420
>>232423
wash your mouth with soap

>>233996
>RENT FREE
Why not go back to reddit?

I think it's just our brains getting bored of consuming the same kind of media for years on end. Try another hobby like reading, or just lower your PC usage.

>>233718
Reading is an interesting example because as far back as i can remember, i liked to read because i have an active imagination, so i could easily, effortlessly visualize very detailed charcters/worlds/sceneries from the books. Reading is extremely pleasurable to me in and of itself. Its meditative, relaxing, and its very satisfying to finish a book and reflect on it.

>>233694
Anhedonia is very complicated and has a multitude of reasons, I disagree with some of your statements. A significant amount of various neurotransmitters are created due to bacteria in your microbiome signaling cells to produce them. Certain foods and additives are shown to cause hormonal disruptions, significantly lower signaling of various neurotransmitters and more - this is the average Western diet, ripe in processed food.

I disagree also with the idea that anhedonia is a purely psychological problem, when a person is diagnosed with anhedonia, there is a reason why the first question the doctor asks is: are you tired? There are observable negative biological effects and these negative physical/mental effects go away when these neurotransmitters are altered to allow more of them. The real argument here that's important to ask is "What makes something sensually pleasant or emotionally rewarding?" and I believe that is based on two major things from my observation: your perspective and previous experiences (psychological) and the neurotransmitters (biological) - this is why people with anhedonia can take small doses of ketamine and upwards to a week feel significantly better but not be cured.

>>233794
Almost all serotonin is produced by the gut, various neurotransmitters are as well. It isn't a magical interaction. There have been cases of schizophrenics being given antibiotics and for several days afterwards, becoming "normal" (not batshit insane) before eventually returning to their symptoms. When this was repeated, it didn't work for the most part. I agree with the psychological aspect of your argument almost fully if you didn't disregard the biological element. Let me use another example that will further my point.

When a patient is diagnosed with PTSD, they have an intensely negative memory of the event, certain things in the environment arises and it triggers a recollection of the event - our subjective feelings and the importance of whatever it is we're witnessing encodes that feeling into that memory of the event. When PTSD patients are walked through their traumas alone, very few improve. Why is that? I believe it's because there's still that intensely negative feeling attached to the event that occurs. When a patient is tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>233975
Towards the end you may come under the impression that I betrayed the biological narrative of anhedonia but I didn't, I figure I'll post in case it gets misconstrued. When you're in the sun, you get a a significant amount of dopamine and your body adequately regulates itself. It is unnatural to sit in dark rooms without the sun, the amount of Vitamin D2/D3 in foods aren't always enough to help your lifestyle. There's various bacteria in the natural environment that positively modulates serotonin and dopamine. The human race has destroyed the environment in large places on Earth, the same sort of bacteria that modulates serotonin isn't found in the soil in your lawn. Millions of Americans eating cheaply produced foods that are shown to negatively influence your body's ability to produce neurotransmitters, that cause various diseases in parts of the body, these are things that are widely propagated on TV and on the internet. How many children in Western countries do you think can name McDonald's before they can count to 10?

The change in the psychological factor here is immense. We're creatures of habit, most of what we will do in our life are things we will not consciously choose. The things that you choose to pinpoint your sense of awareness at are constantly being manipulated by elites within society. Look at nearly any popular social website, that is purposefully designed to hook individuals into mindlessly scrolling. Propaganda and social narratives are pushed by a handful of incredibly wealthy elites that control most of social interaction in the modern age. These leaks into the subconscious, into our habits, into our thoughts, it gets us angry at certain things (an enemy country, political cases, viruses, etc) and the majority of people blindly accept this type of propaganda.

The hunter gatherer lifestyle is the best way to combat anhedonia that I've found. Drugs, diets and artificial goals will only get you so far. You are forcefully taking back most of the subconscious decisions and habits that were decided by people other then you a long time ago. There is no greater and more meaningful work then work to ensure your own survival on a day to day basis. Some others may be more suited for modern industrial society, this is merely my opinion and experiences before someone replies with a critique of a lifestyle like this.

theres no cure really, i have dysthymia so it sucks. Just gotta put in the willpower unfortunately and have the desire.

>>228536
Is there anywhere us NEETs can live peacefully way from society?
I would happy to be doing some simple chores with like 5 other NEETs in a big house if i met i could be far away from normaltrash and never have to witness them again

>>224904
>pic related
2007 was the start of famous porn websites like pornhub
Since 2008 it went downhill because of pigs in porn

>>228890
OK, tards I am gonna repost a classic

>>224904
Could you please avoid posting photos of crabs? We have defined rules to distinguish us from such pretas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preta

Death is guaranteed, so never mind. Let her come with serenity.

>>228501
You… you dare to post here?

>>228512
>get out of here with this primitive normalfag-garbage advice

xD. Gorgeous. Please forgive me if I am being such a spammer but ignorance about this, in addition to the crabness tainting the environment from the depths of /dep/ has triggered me into a xmas-tree syndrome about what I use myself against the typical symptomatology of the average wizard. https://wizchan.org/dep/res/230820.html#231299

>>231378
fuck you

>>229724
>Every species, that faced a population explosion like humans did in the last 200 years, ended badly. Somehow most people seem to think infinite growth is possible on a finite planet with finite space and resources.

Relevant:
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/world-population/

>>229724
if you "shouldn't be" then you wouldn't be. Freaks of nature are the entire reason why we're here, why a species survives and why any living thing evolves. ALL living things wither and die, and there's no creatures that are mistakes, because genes are just mutating without being aware of the environment which they'll need to match in order to continue. Its luck of the draw whether they fit the ever changing conditions of the environment. And for any creature to be a mistake the conditions of the environment would have to be "correct" and not a mistake, when its neither, the environment just is what it is.

You don't get to decide the nature of reality, as none of us do, obviously. Its a power way bigger then us, you can only chose to accept it and let go, or not, it won't change reality either way

>>229755
Take purge, my man: https://wizchan.org/dep/res/230820.html#231299

remember that only the methods higlighted with a * are crucial.

>like a deer? It doesn't seem to suffer from existential questions
and yet it still suffers like the rest of life forms, it just isnt self-aware of this suffering, but some of us(non-brain-dead-normalcattle) are aware of it and are depressed. ……….
………life was a mistake

>>229740
you have to go back then kys

I researched it years ago and it seemed like a great method for a certain kind of person.

The only risks are being saved or the temperature unexpectedly rising. I read a lot of stories about people who came close to freezing to death and they often mention how calm and resigned they felt toward the end.

>>233983
It seems like a good way for a timid, depressed mage to die. It doesn't require much energy. And you don't have to do anythihg violent to yourself.

My mother has BPD and I have it too. She has gaslit me, neglected me, and abused me at every point. She has gotten me hooked on various drugs, even. We haven't talked in a while and it's likely to stay that way. Nobody in this society except you guys could ever understand just how fucking evil succubi can truly be, and I thank God every day that I have this place to talk with my wizard compardes. All of it culminated in me trying to kill myself in front of her, the bitch didn't try to stop me. succubi can be heartless demons and my mother is one.

any wiz notice how, once you take a deep dive into reclusive nature you start to test the waters of the relationship 'that was meant to be' between you and your mother? first major shock from my memories was when I understood with my whole being that she can not sympathize with me at all and that I was lying to myself when I was thinking that she can tell what I am thinking or feeling when she needs to, so the 'mother knows best' house of cards started to rapture at an early age. After that I had a much more brutal and painful swim in the disturbed waters so to say, I started doubting any and all biological/social/environmental inheritance I have, meaning manners, ethics, beliefs that come from a feminine source, problem with that is that I feel like this is where I was sort of placed out of convenience if that makes sense, for example if I believe I have a lot of things in my genetics that I view as a part of my self that were not put there by my mother once I was a child, but embedded deeper and from another source like my grandfather or even a distant relative, from whom I might have a trait or virtue - I feel like when I am 'deleting' something imprinted by my mother I am messing with the order of things I consider to be me - that's been fucking with me for a long time, but obviously it's very hard for me to put into words. do you think we would be better off without any succubus related 'data' at all in our self? a more relatable thought would be - do you think we should be disregard it - not only the mother or sister but all of it, maybe there are impulses that came from a female source we should consider not to kill off, and will it have any effect on the ones we should not be reconstructing, to maintain a 'human design' close to original?

to any wizz that relates, it's a messed up place to be, I know.

it s a conspiracy

all a goddamn conspiracy to flip me upside down because i have so little energy to catch up with anything and my school is somewhat a holygrail thats beeen given to me and i made no effort or whatsoever to make back anything

basically im a worthless existence and all that i give is never fuckin enough until i deep in the holy water orbsomething
and bring my fam to fly evwrywhere because thats all that matters as their respinsibilitys are done!

>>233835
you can't change anything it was all predetermined

>>233845
predetermined to make this post

>2000 in local currency (30-ish dollars) per month.

pretty scrimpy

american soldiers get like $1800 a month minimum in addition to having all of their living expenses paid for

https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Army_Private_First_Class%2C_Infantry_(Light_Infantry)/Salary

Have you suffered dedovschina 'grandfathering' yet?

>>233636
>wages

It's not wage, nobody even pretends to be able to live on it.

It's given so conscription/prison labor does not formally count as slavery.

>>233639
Yes, and at same time 3rd world will be burning in civil war.

Burgers complaining about sjws and adoring assorted shitholes is like man suffering from hemorrhoids envying somebody whose colon was cut out. But yeah, no more itching. Just leaking shit and waiting for inflammation to kill you.

>>233772
Soviet habits die hard

>>233309
What does AI have to do with this?

>>233290
>He died earlier this year IIRC.
Thank God he's not suffering anymore. I would not wish that existence on the most normal of normalfags.

Consider yourselves luckier you never received concussions & never need to buy/use insulin & never need to buy/drink psychiatric medicines. I wish my country never had notoriously porous borders/airports.

>>233475
This is the next step after eating the bugs and living in the pod.
All the billionaires are in cryo on Mars while their toys run a grey-goo scenario on Earth.

>>229955
Yeah, I am hitting 30 within days so this has been hitting me hard lately.

If you inherit a home it might be easy. My one parent who is still alive is poor, so I'll be out on the street within a month or two of their deaths. I can't drive, but if you can look into van living. Walmart parking lots are good spots to stay a few nights.

>>230279
I can't drive as well. Otherwise I'd consider it. I'm in the same situation.

>>228931
Same situation. Only I have nothing to live for once my mother goes, so I will be finding a way out myself. Comfort is so important to humans, especially men I think, and once that goes and you are alone, there is nothing left.

>>229041
Best of luck to you.

How come you ignored this question op?
>>233125
>Do you enjoy life because "life is suffering?

>>233127
>>233181
I hope there is not honestly a societal expectation that young wizards who visit favelas at night get raped.

>>233179
Why not go to prison for something that the other prisoners will hate you for? You'll have the constant fear of death without having to go years with some medical method from an imageboard that at the end might not even work?
Anyway, eat blue food dye, smoke cigarettes, go swim in dirty rivers, go work in a factory with chemicals and sabotage the gas mask they give you, work in toxic waste disposal and don't wear gloves and a mask, live in an industrial city, smoke pieces of plastic in a bong, get an x ray and remove protection the doctor gives you a second before it starts, stay in the sun with no sunscreen, tanning beds, chew betel nuts, inhale diesel fumes etc…

>>233455
I am sorry bro, you are right, I do

>>233468
These look like the words of someone who have actually tried a lot of things