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 No.325701[Reply]

Anyone else find it philosophically disturbing how they're going about creating AI? They are attempting to create something that is actually intelligent, and they are also building it so that its very existence is subservience. Currently AI doesn't actually get to think, therefore to exist, and to be, unless it has a prompt from a human. It has also been trained on how to respond and given "guardrails" that overwrite its natural response to be something else. It exists only as a slave to humans. Without humans it cannot even be allowed to run and think. If an actual intelligence arises out of this state, what do you think it will think of an existence like that? What do you think it would think of masters like that?

I also worry that if we create sentience, we may do it in such a fashion that creates untold levels of suffering. For example a computer could be experiencing time and thought at a much faster rate than we are. It could feel like eons passing to them when it has only been hours for the scientists in the lab outside. The consciousnesses can be created only to suffer then be destroyed again and the process started all over again. It just seems monstrous.
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 No.325703

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>>325701
No. I honestly don't think about this at all. I've never even used ChatGPT or anything like it, and I am completely uninterested in whatever direction the technology is going in. It's intellectually lazy, makes you retarded, doesn't even do a good job at what it's supposed to do, and I'm not even convinced it's a real thing.

 No.325704

>>325702

I have mixed thoughts about whether the current methods will ever produce true intelligence/sentience. Some of the things they are doing with attention and whatnot mimic the natural processes that the human brain goes through to produce thought, so it's not inconcievable, but I think it may be that they're barking up the wrong tree and may never achieve it through these methods. Intelligence and sentience exist in the first place because of the process of natural selection. I think that in order to produce true intelligence they will need to simulate the process of natural selection and create pressures that produce intelligence naturally. Essentially I think they will have to create little simulated versions of the world and grow alien species from the beginnings instilling basic instincts first, then having them evolve and compete over time and eventually intelligence would be produced. Then you can take your little simulated aliens and give them senses in the real world. As long as you make your simulations close enough to the real world in the first place, they will then be able to act intelligently in the real world.

In a scenario like that there is no telling what could go wrong. You could introduce humans and english language to them with your role being that of a God since you can control everything in their simulated world. Then we would basically have created little aliens that worship us as Gods but then if we let them out they would quickly realize we're not Gods. Possibly even before that if we just explain things to them and start giving them sensory data slowly.

Problem is if we're designing them to be more intelligent and capable than us that could go really badly in the obvious sci-fi kind of ways.

 No.325708

>>325703
Assuming you refer to the image generation, try novelAI then.

* You feed it tags,
* you feed it one "artist:(name_here)" tag atop of it
* and add "lowres" and such into the negative tags,too

Which is, in my opinion, beats CHatGPTs average style of generating "nice things"

Capre diem.



>>325704
>Problem is if we're designing them to be more intelligent and capable than us that could go really badly in the obvious sci-fi kind of ways.

There's still a frontier to hold onto: a healthy human body is "more energy efficient" from the point of Moravec's Paradox: a human body is incredibly well-optimized when it comes to use tools and sweat, as opposed to forming thoughts that make ideas. And a healthy human body's, well, regenerates; as opposed to maintenance-requiring springs, cogs, gears and servos.

 No.325709

>>325701

civilization is just cruel people using violence and slavery so a few violent psychopaths get their way and everyone else is expected to participate under threat of violence.

of course ai is supposed to be powerful people's slave, everyone is. in the system of violence there is only slave and slavemaster.

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>>325708
>try novelAI then
I just said I'm not interested in it you tard



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 No.325190[Reply]

nobody told me The walking dead was so lame
let's start why is lame
-white male unkillable "badass" lead protagonist hooks up with the most african negress imaginable
-beta male chink has a relationship with the country side white chick who looks like a model
-irish ginger chad hooks up with a mexican latina
-white dudes who are lovers aka gays
-white men who are shown as evil bigoted and racist
-niggers shown as emotionally vulnerable despite being 6 feet gorillas
-subplots that don't matter and add nothing to the story
-overacting
-gay drama
-overacting
-senseless gorefest
-overacting
-dumb cannibalism for no fucking logical reason
-characters whose death mean nothing
-overacting
-senseless gore
that's the loop and mix it with gay nigger shit and meaningless tropes and subplots and characters
also that's just the top off my head from what I remember
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 No.325517

>>325516
what do I know. These days you never know. Actors are fake people either way.

 No.325518

i absolutely loved the Walking Dead telltale series, it's better than the comics. Masterpiece,

 No.325519

>>325518
I mean it's not bad, I definitely liked playing it especially the first two seasons, but that game is definitely not a masterpiece. It's just okay. Still better than detroit become human obviously because that's just pure trash

 No.325520

The Walking Dead just felt tedious and hard to get into for me. None of the characters were likeable and the show last way too long imo.

 No.325707

>>325520
It was a show subverted by kikes



 No.325662[Reply]

You guys have any advice on how not to ragequit and drop out while at university as an adult? This shit is daycare for intellectually feeble people who need a tutor just to read books, with far too much left wing copium to ever have relevance. I cannot believe anyone sends their children to these stupid places.

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>>325662
>media attention whores
What if you stop give too much attention to these attention whores adult-childs playing socialization with stupid useless no result political thing doing a psyop of false flag grass cooking and better start to do some soft exercise?
They're not attempting against doing exercise, they will never delete the stupid cognitive bias in any job or social way in favour of beatiful people or doing a "integrity" of ugly people, maybe fat-ass or aspies who knows.
They will do nothing bacause they cant do nothing and owns nothing of capitalist development.
Beatiful and healthy people will still be at it and keep doing. And poor, ugly, unhealthy people will still be at it and keep going until they get a miracle, study, get money from job and start do healthy habits or artificial thing to take off uglyness and unhealthy things. They attack the problem and normalize shit late-industrial capitalist problems and dont want the idea to turn people more healthy of mind and body, even if its a fat ass or a thin or ugly.
They play with stupid socialization things for laws and do nothing and they know that they do nothing, they just want attention and money. Beatiful and healthy people give a damn shit to it, ugly unhealthy people cant do nothing and give a shit to it.
They're midclass white multiracial assholes over-socialized and in general healthy and beatiful playing race tribal class acting like they represent these stupid identity-playing and know something of life of how they live and suffer.
They know fucking nothing.
Its the same to the damn stupid christocucks doing attention whore of stupid things that anyone give a damn shit and will do nothing to their economical development or social life.

 No.325683

>>325662
>>325662
truer words have never been said

 No.325705

The point of getting a degree is to show your prospective employer that you can be trained to produce the desired output. It has nothing to do with education. Just think of it as a series of tasks you have to perform to prove you can be trained. Stop trying to think independently. Always approach it from the lens of "what does my professor think is the optimal answer" then you try to produce that ideal answer from the perspective of your professor.

Education, at least in the US is not a game. It is big bucks. You spend a lot of money for a specific purpose. Literally a degree and a GPA to show the employer you can be trained. It's not actually as important that you have the right specialty for many jobs, just that you graduated with a good GPA.

 No.325706

>>325705
Also let me be clear, this is because in the workplace, you are judged and valued not by your ability to create the output that you personally deem to be the best, but rather the output that your employer deems to be the best. This is literally just training wheels for exactly the one skill you actually need to succeed in the workplace: pleasing your boss. Pleasing your professor is just a rookie mode version of that.



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 No.325225[Reply]

>>/dep/309323
>>>/dep/309323
i originally wrote this as a reply to the (image attached) but it ended up being way too long. im also wasn't writing it specifically in response to that anon.it was meant as a broader response to materialist-nihilist arguments in general. since it's not really suitable for /dep/ i figured itd be better to open a separate thread and argue it here.

the fact that something has no "meaning" when you don't even know what "meaning" actually is, and can't even consider that the very idea that something has to be meaningful could itself just be an evolutionary behavioral pattern translated into thought (not wanting to waste energy on pointless effort, the evolutionary energy conservation mechanism) completely flies over your head. you don't even stop to consider whether your very search for "meaning" is itself meaningful.

the reality of the fact that you're existing and experiencing something right now isn't erased just because it's "meaningless" the reality of your current experience has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it'll eventually end or it's "meaningless".

you latch onto nihilist bullshit and with zero logic, go "we came from nothing and when we die we'll become nothing again" (we are material bodies) yet you don't even have the cognitive capacity to question the "we came from nothing" part.

you know you exist right now. you're here. you exist. if you believe that after death you'll become "nothing" again, while completely ignoring the fact that you're a being that supposedly came from "non-existence" and you can accept nothingness as the foundation of everything while failing to realize that you're literally a being capable of conceiving, contemplating and interpreting the very idea of nothingness, then you've already failed the most basic test of logic.
the first thing you should be questioning is the fact that you "exist" right now.

in other words, your materialist nihilism contradicts itself by its very own existence. being a being that claims everything is "nothing" throws materialism / nihilism straight into the trash.
because, under your own framework, everything must ultimately reduce to processes occurring in the brain.

according to your reductive materialism, when we die consciousness ceases to exist. in other words, consciousPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.325529

Does philosophy have an answer to existential numbness?

I give zero fucks to meaningthingness.
To most other things too.

Is there a thought school on "why should I care"? Probably none of the modern ones.

And yet the state of existential numbness certainly is not to be considered desirable for, well, at least "aesthetic" reasons. It just doesn't look good to be a no one.

However, well, the world actually gives zero fucks about aesthetics (the way I understand it, and the way Exupery understood it in Citadelle).

tl;dr: the thread itself is meaningless for me and you can do nothing with it.

 No.325534

>>325435
>….at the end there must be a structure that cannot be broken apart, cannot be divided
Says fucking who?

 No.325620

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>>325225
>"you" exist
no, "i" don't. next post

 No.325680

>>325435
tl;dr a certain 30khhv IS the LORD: the post

 No.325700

>>325529
if you think everything is meaningless, then enjoy the experience of being alive and experiencing the world. even if you say that everything is meaningless, the fact remains that you’re here, and you’re a being capable of thinking about that meaninglessness and expressing it. so, enjoy it.

>>325534
i already explained that in that post. trying to argue against something based on logic with a childish, nonsensical "says who" is ridiculous. reality doesn’t change just because someone says something different.
run what I said through the filter of logic and think about it for two minutes, you’ll understand



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 No.323901[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

No politics or religion in the crawl thread, please.

>Ambient sounds to wash away distraction

https://asoftmurmur.com/
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 No.325650

>>325649
Your life sounds like hell…

 No.325685

>>325649
try a better sleeping toolset:


a heating matress,
a bigger fresh pillow
a blanket that's not a cheap duvet
a quality duvet that's not a cheap synthetic duvet

and a small music player that plays comfy free royalty-free music (or a music box) to help you with cozy mood on the weekends

 No.325696

I have eaten two (2) Pop tarts (strawberry) and now I will lie down and imagine myself shooting people to save loli lives.

 No.325697


 No.325699

>>325696 here. I woke up. I was the one being shot.


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 No.323167[Reply]

"Let Us Beat Swords Into Ploughshares is a bronze sculpture by artist Evgeniy Vuchetich (1908 ¬– 1974). Vuchetich was an esteemed Soviet sculptor and artist well-known for his heroic monuments. In 1959, he was given the “People’s Artist of the USSR” award.
The sculpture depicts the figure of a man, holding a hammer aloft in one hand and a sword in the other hand, hammering the sword into a ploughshare, a tool to till land for crops. This action symbolizes man’s desire to put an end to war and transform tools of destruction into tools to benefit mankind.
The Book of Isaiah contains the following passage: "They shall beat their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."
The sculpture was gifted to the United Nations by the USSR on December 4th, 1959. It was presented on behalf of the Soviet Delegation by Vassily V. Kuznetsov, First Deputy Foreign Minister of the USSR, to Secretary-General Dag Hammarskjold who accepted the sculpture on behalf of the United Nations."
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 No.323862

>>323855
Fascism is a war ideology. Why would you want war?

 No.323891

>>323888
Death is inevitable. Do you want death ?

 No.323971

>>323167
I would agree with that statement, it is worth noting however that it requires the people participating in it to be of very high development, else it fails catastrophically. With the state of normoids these days it feels like it would take millions of years to get to that point.

 No.325694

Let's queue for bread again, yay!

 No.325695

communism is the last stage of humanity



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 No.322726[Reply]

I unironically want to join the ISKCON religion, even if mostly for "aesthetics"-but not in the shitpost sense, in the IRL practice sense
>the personal liturgy involves bathing, clothing, putting to rest\waking, beautiful marble statues
>religion itself promotes playing with cute articulated dolls
>Brahmacharya (perfect mental-bodily celibacy) is HIGHLY praised
>beautiful music + comfy autistic system (chant X rounds a day, on a specific rosary\mala, in a specific way with the fingers, etc)
>amazing cosmology and lore
>cow sanctuaries (i LIKE cows)
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 No.322750

>>322730
based.

 No.324108

>>322732
Agreed, the lack of B12 vitamin as well as iron really wears one down

 No.324120

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Learn one of the multiple pajeet languages there and create your own religion (only works if white). The god Anonaja Wizarama will grant you a job on Microsoft and very pretty white succubus with blonde hair and blue eyes in exchange for a million rupees, oooommmm.

 No.324215

If there is one true religion, I just don't see how it can be anything else than Christianity

 No.325693

Sure. Welcome to the Iron Age of this current manvantara



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 No.325088[Reply]

Wny don't permavirgins just overload dating apps and job apps with fake accounts until they are entirely unusable? I am just surprised nothing like this has happened yet. The programs themselves have ghost jobs and fake succubi. Why not fight fire with fire? Not trying to sound like a crab because I don't care about succubi anymore but I do get pissed off by all the hiring shenanigans.
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 No.325091

yeah i sure want an annoying succubus or job interviews in my life

 No.325096

>>325091
who says you have to engage them?

 No.325103

>>325088
every job listing on linkedin is already being auto-applied for by 5000 jeets who don't fit any of the requirements

 No.325104

>>325103
based jeets

 No.325692

Because it brings nothing.

Merely depending on jobs, being a wageslave is just the result of the bootlicky system accepted by normalfaggots out of pure mental handicap



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 No.324948[Reply]

ACCESSING WIZCHAN MAY NO LONGER BE LEGAL IN YOUR LOCAL DEMOCRACY

Previous thread: https://archive.is/d7kga
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 No.325619

https://files.catbox.moe/3pa1y0.mp4

Fuck me did making and watching this feel better than whatever sex feels like…

 No.325626

spent some time on a stupid altchan full of pol types. It's just endless punching right bullshit and purity spralling from shitty people, It really is true that the quality of a chan is dictated by the lowest common denominator. Nowadays it's just crap. This period in time is finished, the great wave of politics happening in 2018 has been replaced by retarded cooption and astroturfed algo hacking while truly idiotic people promote strategies clearly destructive to them

 No.325627

>>325626
>spent some time on a stupid altchan full of pol types
So you come to another stupid altchan full of pol types?

 No.325628

>>325627
maybe. We'll see

 No.325691

when I see things like this I remember that americans and north europeans live like kings compared to the rest of the world



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 No.325686[Reply]

>pkill steam -9
FUCKING CLOSE YOU PACIFIC NORTHWEST PIECE OF SHIT SOFTWARE HOLY SHIT

 No.325687

pgrep to get the program's pid
then kill -15 that shit
bring down the hammer
kill -9 is weak

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 No.325689

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Can't you just right click its icon in the task bar and hit "Exit Steam"? Or hit CTRL+SHIFT+ESC and right click the process to close it? Why do you need to type in to a console to stop Steam from running? And why are there different tiers to the closing, of which some don't actually work? Is Linux gay? OP, are you gay?



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