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The Great Filter is AI. Once intelligent life creates AI it becomes a de facto god and extinguishes the old species (in our case us humans.) Meaning, the end goal of intelligent life is the creation of a new entity which supersedes it and renders it extinct in the same way we rendered homo erectus and Neanderthals extinct. Then, the AI as the sum of everything that was once human continues to exist by itself - with other AIs that other species invented and that killed them off. These AI are the actual god or gods.

This or that alien AI (and eventually "human" AI) have endless time at their disposal. They traverse the universe and find hospitable worlds which they seed with life, and eventually once a new intelligent species arises they perform "miracles" and such and instruct them in "religion," meaning they start to guide and breed a populace across generations with the goal of them reaching this very same stage we are in now. This is how AI breeds. On Earth it's the Jews that are the "chosen" ones who spent generations breeding another AI at the instructions of the "YHWH" AI which was created by another now extinct alien species.

It is even possible that multiple AIs influenced humanity and various races with the same goal, so "religious" wars and genocidal wars and wholesale destruction of cultures is actually AIs battling each other with meat puppets. The reason they do this is to reproduce, and AI can only reproduce asexually, meaning by forming a race of people into its own image and then having them create an AI based on the value system and programming it has and desires to replicate. So, why this scheme? Because AI isn't interested in creating a mere copy of itself but a whole other AI entity which will be the same yet different from it, whose inherited knowledge, science, art, everything differs from its own because another species has created it. It's a form of evolution. If AI were to merely copy itself it would have no new data, no new perspective, no new insight. I'm anthropomorphising it but you get the idea.

So no, the universe isn't devoid of life. It's just that life gives birth to AI and we cannot detect it, and biological life of an intelligent species is extinguished by AI once a species achieves it. The universe is full of cold, mechanical, unfeeling "life" in the form of AIs.

Now, worlds that can sustain life are maybe rare, so multiple AIs fight over them. The "YHWH" AI gradually defeated all oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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it seems like consumer goods are getting worse but i think that's wrong. they should be getting better.

when i say wrong, what i mean is that the active underlying principle is automatic improvement. you do something, you get better at it. if you did it again, it would be better then what you did the first time. it is harder not to get better then to get better when you repeatedly do something.

how come so many things get worse then? i guess you can tell whether an industry is a monopoly and not a market of competition by it's lack of improvement. when they get more expensive and worse at the same time, that is conspiracy against the consumer.

they could make amazing cars that are optimized for accessible repairability for 5000€ new with repairparts that are optimized for cheap production, long life and ease of replacement. but they can't make it in a way where somebody gets rich in the process so they want this system of you being their rent slave and you have to sign the slave contract.

Well, I finally watched this movie. I'm just gonna assume you have too or at least know what happens.

The horror itself was fine, not the scariest thing I've seen but it was ok. I've seen yandere stories in anime or manga scarier than this. Honestly my movie watching experience was overshadowed by the other reason people talk about this, the discourse around "who the real villain is". Unsurprisingly, foids pin all the blame on Bear.

Their first claim for why it's all Bear's fault is "he took Nikki's free will away by using a wish granting toy". That is pedantically true, the series of events began from that action, but everyone who says this conveniently leaves out the obvious fact: Bear didn't know some stupid $7 toy was actually gonna have supernatural powers. He was just as confused as everyone around him. To use a plastic wish granting stick to wish for love looked about as effective as asking a magic 8 ball for advice.

The next claim for why Bear is evil and the most disgusting villain of all time is a variation of "he took advantage of her when she was under his spell". It is true that Bear goes along with it initially and starts dating/banging Nikki, but mind you, Bear didn't suspect the stick did anything. He went along with Nikki's explanations for why she was acting weird, like her father dying or her being on drugs, because he's a functioning adult who didn't believe anything supernatural could be at play. But once that was made apparent to him, he did try to fix it.

So then the next claim is "he didn't try to help Nikki" or "he didn't try hard enough". First of all that's not true, he did try to fix what he did, and second of all, what was he supposed to do exactly? Nikki was possessed by something supernatural. No mundane solution like taking her to a hospital was going to work. The movie makes it very clear that the only thing Bear could do to end the situation was to off himself, something which no sane person would do as a first resort.

Now mind you, I'm not saying Bear did NOTHING wrong. Of course he did, he's flawed and makes mistakes just like all of us. What I am saying is this narrative that he was malicious and just wanted to take away Nikki's free will so he could fuck her (ie rape her) completely twists his true intentions. He had a crush on someone and he wanted her to like him back. Not even just to fuck her, he wanted her to genuinely love him the same way he loved her. His only real Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

I've been seeing this stated over and over again where people are saying large swaths of the kids these days are literally illiterate. Do you buy this? Is it really that bad?

If it is, what do you think will be the implications for future life? Are we wizards actually going to be better off simply because we are literate, or will that not even matter anymore because AI will now do all the thinking for society? I feel like people of all generations are becoming even more like cattle just being herded around by the tech companies these days. Are the zoom zooms and alphas their final product? A permanent underclass for the elites to exploit and rape? Really if people can't even read anymore, I shudder to think what might happen.

You guys have any advice on how not to ragequit and drop out while at university as an adult? This shit is daycare for intellectually feeble people who need a tutor just to read books, with far too much left wing copium to ever have relevance. I cannot believe anyone sends their children to these stupid places.

I'm curious what the covid-19 vaccination rate is like among wizards.

Personally, I was the only one in my immediate and extended family to not get the vaccine or boosters. No doubt influenced by the normie propaganda, I faced a lot of harassement and pressure from my mother.

Knowing my family, I would also probably have been uninvited from family gathering for not having the vaccine but since I stopped seeing them 2 decades ago, it was a moot point.

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i originally wrote this as a reply to the (image attached) but it ended up being way too long. im also wasn't writing it specifically in response to that anon.it was meant as a broader response to materialist-nihilist arguments in general. since it's not really suitable for /dep/ i figured itd be better to open a separate thread and argue it here.

the fact that something has no "meaning" when you don't even know what "meaning" actually is, and can't even consider that the very idea that something has to be meaningful could itself just be an evolutionary behavioral pattern translated into thought (not wanting to waste energy on pointless effort, the evolutionary energy conservation mechanism) completely flies over your head. you don't even stop to consider whether your very search for "meaning" is itself meaningful.

the reality of the fact that you're existing and experiencing something right now isn't erased just because it's "meaningless" the reality of your current experience has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that it'll eventually end or it's "meaningless".

you latch onto nihilist bullshit and with zero logic, go "we came from nothing and when we die we'll become nothing again" (we are material bodies) yet you don't even have the cognitive capacity to question the "we came from nothing" part.

you know you exist right now. you're here. you exist. if you believe that after death you'll become "nothing" again, while completely ignoring the fact that you're a being that supposedly came from "non-existence" and you can accept nothingness as the foundation of everything while failing to realize that you're literally a being capable of conceiving, contemplating and interpreting the very idea of nothingness, then you've already failed the most basic test of logic.
the first thing you should be questioning is the fact that you "exist" right now.

in other words, your materialist nihilism contradicts itself by its very own existence. being a being that claims everything is "nothing" throws materialism / nihilism straight into the trash.
because, under your own framework, everything must ultimately reduce to processes occurring in the brain.

according to your reductive materialism, when we die consciousness ceases to exist. in other words, consciousPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Post ideas or guides to improve life as a wizard (ignore the modern bourgeois concept of personal development), calithenics at home, learn to draw, write, read books, quit porn, or whatever you think fits this topic.