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>>323932
I doubt they will suffer any consequences, or that we will get a sudden collapse or climax to this decline.
The slow rotting, disengagement of the masses with the system, population decline and so on will continue indefinitely.
It took a very long time after the fall of the Roman Empire before something on the same level of civilisation appeared again.
People can and will go back to a more miserable way of living, especially normies.

>>323051
It's very simple you live with your parents and you let your family abuse the shit out of you and taunt you every step of the way, 'tis the Thridie Way. In winters though things get a lot more bearable and you're able to get comfy inside a blanket, summers though are absolutely hellish.
>>323648
Well Prisons are also notorious for simulating human holes.

any thirdies living in firsties country,?

>>324202
Moved from "gritty town" setting to a "metropolis" setting, still have a clutch onto my gritty mindset.

Well, brother-in-magic for what it's worth and if it makes you any happy you have done very well for yourself at least you have managed to earn 200USD a month at some point in your life.

As for me brother, I have to be honest with you, I have no idea how life went down the way it did, I am pushing 24 now. I, back in my teenage days used to dream about family and all that, now of course females are not something that I can get, I realised that a long ago, and I have began my path to be at peace with that. Which is what brought me here in the first place.

I have to be honest with you, I can't let everything fully-go, every single time there is a family reunion, a party, or when I see the former school peers of mine on social media or somewhere, even if we don't account for their wives, they have done so well for themselves.

They have managed to get jobs, cars, etc. for them, they have become (most importantly) free, they have financial independence, they actually have a future, what is my future? I am trying and trying and trying to get jobs, but perhaps I have not been trying enough I don't have any notable skills, I got a Bachelor's Degree but it is of absolutely no use and people are just so far ahead of me in life it's crazy.

LIfe has become unsurvivable, while no one around me says anything like "Oh you're unemployed, you're loser", but there is this silence which is very loud where they just by their existence make me realise that I am a loser, even if they offer words of encouragement (which I am grateful for to be honest) but this is what the truth is. Just by being there I feel ashamed, I want to go out but I can't because I will be treated like crap.

I am not very good with English Language nor am I very good at elaborating things, I feel like my mental faculties are declining. But I will say this, it is a genuinely dystopian feeling for me, I break-down in tears randomly at this point anywhere, while eating breakfast, while just taking a stroll in the little balcony, I just sometimes can't keep it contained. I hate that I have no future. I hate that this is what it's going to be, I hate going out of the house and seeing people have stuff that I could never afford.

I understand that materialism and consumerism aren't very good, but to some extent they represent a certain degree of achievement in terms of being independent for me, My Birthday just went by recently, and I have to say, I hate it, ePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>324160
I just find le pop culture nigger annoying to find inserted into everything

>>324176
who cares? theres still white people in this world. don't be insecure

>>324165
>the n word
words can kill

>>324189
>words can kill
Not fast enough

there were lots of mistakes in how I thought and perceived this world
I should have avoided normie-thinking much more aggressively

>>324414
Israel's grand ambition in the south.


Out of all of this, Babylon is set to be the most magnificently rich place in the planet, followed by Egypt, followed by Arabia. In Sheba a matriarchy is instated.

>>324416
Possibly the strongest military in the planet is somehow formed out of Pharaoh's Egypt. I don't know how the Jews will do it, or how they'll make Babylon great, or how they'll even annex Sudan and South Sudan and Uganda to Egypt, but they'll do it somehow. Maybe.

When you dispense with the rhetoric, it seems all systems have a small minority exploiting a large minority.

The rest is mostly window dressing

>>323658
Lmao, trannycommies just don't get it.

>>323855
Fascism is a war ideology. Why would you want war?

>>323888
Death is inevitable. Do you want death ?

>>323167
I would agree with that statement, it is worth noting however that it requires the people participating in it to be of very high development, else it fails catastrophically. With the state of normoids these days it feels like it would take millions of years to get to that point.

>>305804
Friendly reminder that the ONLY actual evidence for resurrection of Jesus is that the bible said so. There is no evidence from his time of that happening outside of the bible. And if Jesus didn't resurrect, then it's all just a scam and placebo effect.

>>322856
>To me jesus was a human that supersticious humans divinized and make a too magical history to turn his life more epic
Ironic. To me the biggest reason why I can't be Christian despite wanting to be religious all my life is the opposite.
It's not fantastical enough for me.
Jesus and all bible stories read like down to earth tribal history mixed with some slight fantasy.
At best it's some tall tale told by a village elder in a way to pass on some wisdom to the masses, at worst it's just some story about a handful of villagers/tribesmen doing mundane crap slightly exaggerated.


Too many real things in it that can be mapped onto things we experience in real life so you know by instinct what parts might or might not be bullshit.
Too many historical claims or truth/fact claims that can be proven false or at least attacked.
To me something like tao/daoism depicted in Chinese fantasy novels is a more believable/acceptable religion because they are so far removed from our own realm and reality.

I really don't understand why or how it spread so far and wide and how people can willingly subject themselves. Perhaps surface level aesthetics and a lack of curiosity to dwell deeper. Idk.
Most Christians don't know much aside from what was fed to them by curators of their denomination it seems. Not that I blame them, to most normies it's just another thing to do with the group like painting eggs for the easter bunny.
It's still crazy to me that so many people venerate those that aren't even remotely their kin.
My country was converted to get a dude crowned 1000 years ago and now it's a great part of "our" identity somehow. Crazy stuff.

To be fair I'd buy into it based on aesthetics alone if it was more fantastical/philosophical without the history part so I can't really blame anyone else.

>>323113
It sounds like your religion might just be escapism.

>>323113
>To me something like tao/daoism depicted in Chinese fantasy novels is a more believable/acceptable religion because they are so far removed from our own realm and reality.
And what incredible fantasy things did the Taoist/Daoist in these histories?
>Also
Thelema can be a fantasy fuel if you start to do more and more advanced rituals lol

I'm schizophrenic and hear voices yelling gibberish about "God" all day, at a certain point I had to admit I couldn't form any coherent conception about God anymore and had to throw everything I thought I believed about Christianity in the trash so to speak.
I've read the Bible and all that remains is cold information, like what book has what subject and what the main story and message is.
Don't really know where to go from here.

>>323943
Lol, thanks for an actual good response.

Well I guess in a sense the original meme was about learning as shown on these /lit/ charts. Knowledge and the pills go always hand in hand, but I wouldn't say it was self improvement in a manosphere grifter way, that sounds more like the distilled normalfag version.

>>323935
Can you start talking to people as soon as you download discord?
Redpill is mostly a conservative movement about how men are supposed to be tough and all that and how that would get you a succubus or awaked some sort of really stoic Roman Legionary inside you. It's mostly a hoax and a scam. You can only self-improve to a degree tbh, and that degree is greatly exaggerated within those circles, you still have the ceiling of you financial conditions, your genetic conditions, and your environmental conditions, etc. This industry is also heavily commercialised and no longer the bro-advice that it used to be. In a way it is as dumb as the bluepill personality BS.

>>323947
Oh, I see, I was almost there. But no, I hate Discord people. They're annoying 13-year-old boys. I would go back and tell them this. Sadly, I don't have the patience to teach them about stupid stuff like this. But thanks for the response.

>>323946
Thanks for the chart, lol.

>>320237
>i myself haven't fapped to lolis in 19 days
update
i fully gave in not too long after and have been fapping 1-3 times per day since then
what's the point if all you can think about throughout the day is loliloliloli?
it's not worth it

>>323896
Rip. I don't even think I'm supposed to be like this by default it's just you know… like drugs I guess? (Never done them aside from alcohol.)
I used jerking off as a distraction from life and eventually seeking "harder" stuff for a greater high or just to maintain what used to be…
Now normal stuff can't help cope anymore so… back again.
It's not on my mind all day though thankfully.
It's fucked.

>>320990
nhentai's lolicon tag is a really interesting case study which kind of rhymes with your point, and you kinda put the finger on a dormant idea I've had lingering for years now.

You have doujins with loli's getting raped, getting tentacle-raped, or being a tentacle monster in a human disguise, raping other humans WITH tentacles and on the other hand you have loli BEING the rapists, stepping on the MC's balls, sucking out his life essence or whatever. The most edgy, gory shit you can imagine.

But there is such an absurd lack wholesome mutual romance loli doujins out there, relative to the amount of the shock gore content above. A loli that loves her male love interest and a male love interest that loves her back, with tender handholding sex. The way I've understood it is that crabs and porn degenerates can get off on the shock factor of the doujins of the former type, and because it's so incredibly fetish-y and porn-y, there's less guilt because "I'm just a clown in a circus!"

But truly wholesome vanilla level is a step too far for any crab. The earnest reader that yearns for wholesome vanilla mutual romance between an adult man and loli is considered the most vile, putrid abomination of a human, because they have no veil of porn sickness they hide behind, they just appreciate the pristine beauty of the loli and have truly integrated 3DPD into their personal value structure. Society hates the pornsick gooner quite a bit. But they hate the enlightened 3DPD lolicon a thousand times more, and would like nothing more than to have him killed.

>>323926
I've re-read this post a couple times now and I'm still unsure if I have properly processed it.
Had a good chuckle either way due to the sheer absurdity of it at first, but on some level I respect it.
Godspeed wizard.

>>323927
lolicon iq is high

>>323644
I considered purchasing a Lazy Town Hawaiian shirt exclusive to Brazil. IYKYK

Typically as most of us don't leave the house, I would put on whatever is available or else discounted clothes are my go to, or if you don't have anything order them on Amazon.

I wear a shirt and a jogging, I dont care about good looking clothing as I am a friendless neet.

>>323643
Loose-ish fitting, comfortable pants, usually cargo or similar. Grey tees that I bought in bulk a few years ago. Whatever flannel shirts or zip hoodies I found second hand. So fairly unremarkable, I mainly just want to be comfortable while also not wearing sweats outside.

Linen, canvas, denim… anything with a higher (100% if possible) cotton content. I'm particularly a fan of chore coats and am on the lookout for a European or Japanese denim example ($200-$300).

>>323829

yeah man, i made my titlebar of each window gigantic which helps juggeling windows around.

also having and using terminal is very nice.

if you have an unused singleboard computer laying around, treat yourself and install a text based linux (like diet-pi) without desktop environment on it and see if you can find your way around. i should have done this back when i started with linux.

it is super easy now i can ask brave how to do stuff in linux. the linux help was very useful to me, learned a ton.

>>323830
I use Linux on a laptop and I actually like the desktop environments, so no text-based distros for me. I don't think using GUI's to do certain stuff like distro installation is necessarily a bad thing, but you really need to know how to use the terminal if you want to experience the freedom and flexibility of Linux.
You can't use Debian-based distros on a lot of ancient laptops anymore with them having dropped i686, this was really bad for retro tech. Well atleast you can still use the Thinkpad T60.

>>323856
>I use Linux on a laptop and I actually like the desktop environments, so no text-based distros for me.

i'm not saying switch to a text-based distro, i'm saying once you stepped into the arena (on a virtual machine or on a spare laptop for example) you will be glad you did it. because once you felt how nice text-based is you can cherry pick situations on which to choose text over graphics. i wish i did this sooner, don't repeat my mistake is what i am trying to say. text-based is awesome i regret staying so long on graphical. graphics are bloat!

>>323863
>because once you felt how nice text-based is you can cherry pick situations on which to choose text over graphics
thank you for informing me

Wallpaper? First thing I do on a new install is disable wallpapers and screensavers and such. I'm boring I'll admit. It mostly stems from being a Windows refugee and the carnival of widgets and icons and popups and such… I need the silence.

>>323874
>Organisms without a brain do not really seem conscious to me.

assuming you are correct and the body is not conscious then explain to me how the body knows when a good moment to poop is and when there isn't. when it is the worst time to poop, the body pauses until a better moment arrives. this is stuff the body is running in the background but it is running it so good that it can coordinate with your schedule. if now is a bad time to poop, your body understands that and my question is how. i assume it reads your emotions and the information you collect with your senses. does that not sufficiently represent a form of consciousness? your digestion knows what is happening in your life enough so it knows when to poop. do you know your digestion enough to know what to eat? because if you don't then i could argue your digestion not even IS conscious but is even MORE conscious then you are.


>I don't think plants, fungi, invertebrates think or have opinions.

i heard trees coordinate their airspace so that other trees are not in competition with each other for sun and rain. some say they communicate and share resources with each other. i have not looked into it too deeply but this is what i would expect of something that is alive and unable to move.

ants are an empire.

fungi have their own internet.


>Further animals with consciousness like cats, while they have consciousness are not intelligent and don't have any more complex thinking than "in this place I can find food" or "I like this human".

i think you are not privy to a lot of information that would lead you to believe otherwise. i think cat's live a crazy life, they are strong, dangerous with impressive movement ability and sense perception but they also have the worst digestive load. they have to digest flesh which requires strong acid and a lot of time. i am so thankful to have my digestion and not that of a cat.

>Your post reminds me of this untrue belief plants and flowers can feel things and are self-aware, while any significant consciousness starts at animals with a small brain like mice and birds.
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>>323878
I don't see how this post refutes my argument or advances your own.
When something goes wrong or well in your body your nerves connected to it create these pleasant or unpleasant sensations. You somehow claim there is something intelligent hidden behind hunger or pain while it's just blood sugar dropping, nerves picking this up, and sending this info to the more voluntary part of your nervous system.

i wish death were eternal nothingness
that would be the greatest mercy

>>323881
>assuming you are correct and the body is not conscious then explain to me how the body knows when a good moment to poop is and when there isn't. when it is the worst time to poop,
My argument is that consciousness is strictly located in the central nervous system, which makes most of the body a non-conscious flesh slave to the brain. As for defecation there are tiny nerves wired up to the digestive system which monitor and control the entire pooping mechanism. If you damage the nerves but leave the bowels intact you get incontinence, loss of voluntary control of digestive functions while there is no pain, meanwhile if the digestive system is damaged but the nerves are intact you actually feel pain.
>i heard trees coordinate their airspace so that other trees are not in competition with each other for sun and rain.
I'm not saying it isn't alive, I'm saying these organisms are not-conscious. There is no "passenger" or soul stuck in a plant or fungus. Ancient Greek philosophers used to discuss which creatures had souls and which has not. Forming complex structures by itself is not exclusive to life, I wouldn't say mineral crystals communicate with each other because they compete for resources.
>i think cat's live a crazy life, they are strong, dangerous with impressive movement ability
Their life experience in the wild is characterised by struggling to hunt for food their entire life. Nothing like human beings which have language, abstraction, religion, complex social structures. Their primal animal "intelligence" which makes them remember where there is food or get sad when one of their kittens dies is nothing compared to a human's mental and emotional capabilities.

>>323881
>yeah you can argue that there are degrees and differences but i think you are judging consciousness by what little of it you have seen so far
I argue there are no conscious beings without a central nervous system. Plants and fungi are life without consciousness. Humans and animals are life with consciousness or soul. Then there are edge cases like worms and certain invertebrates like sea stars where a very small CNS is present regulating physiological impulses but obviously consciousness isn't present there.
>one thing that is keeping you from seeing more of the bigger picture …
I'm well aware the body gets overwhelmed by stuff like processed foods, cigarettes, etc. You are diverging from the main point of the discussion and insisting you magically know stuff about other people's personal health. "I can sense their body screaming in agony" completely ridiculous
>people who are insisting everything that is not medical science must be a scam
Nowhere did I say this
>the body can delay the much needed deepclean
this "cleaning" of the body like removing certain harmful stuff with vitamin C and the killing of microbes by the immune system has been extensively studied by science, this stuff isn't hippie stuff