[–] No.310627>>310628
NEETforge 2.0
[–] No.310628>>310630
>>310627>NEETforge 2.0What is that referring to?
[–] No.310630>>310634
>>310628Another crypto who tried to make wizards rich but was sabotaged
[–] No.310634
>>310630It's almost like certain authorities here WANT to keep wizards suffering.
[–] No.310635
Oh, by the way, I don't know what thing will pump next. I guess I'm all out of ideas at this point.
[–] No.310636>>310637>>310638
People shilling crypto was a problem and you got caught up in it, you attributing malice to the mods when there’s honest mistakes indicates you might have a shitposting tendency.
Everyone has an analysis and justification for their investments, the ones who make money and don’t.
I’m glad for you OP, but I remember people saying to invest in eth and chain link for many years here. I don’t think it was that hidden from wizzies, if we had the money to spare we would have when bitcoin first spiked.
I wish we all had too buddy, but I don’t think you can blame anyway.
[–] No.310637
>>310636> People shilling crypto was a problem and you got caught up in it, you attributing malice to the mods when there’s honest mistakes indicates you might have a shitposting tendency.I didn't shitpost. I made one important post, I explained logically why Ethereum will explode (it did because of exactly those reasons). I wanted to hep other NEETs get rich as this was obvious at that point.
Mods cucked out NEETs out of potentially comfy life. Good job.
[–] No.310638
>>310636I was also not a deggie gambler. I made a bet on bitcoin and ethereum and maybe two other cryptos, THAT'S IT. Ethereum wasn't one of the hundreds of shitcoins I bought. Like 3/4 of my investments paid off bigly. I had very high conviction ratio.
[–] No.310641>>310643
crypto gurus are the worst
[–] No.310643>>310646
>>310639cope
>>310641yeah, who would ever want to get rich right
[–] No.310646>>310647
>>310643according to Efficient Market Theory any investment that guarantees wealth will become oversaturated until it regresses to the mean. Any investment that generates above avg profits is paid for in risk.
[–] No.310647>>310648>>310649
>>310646Yeah, except tell that to Warren Buffett.
Efficient market theory is a meme.
The reality is semi-efficient market rules and there are certain very rare exceptions that come once in a decade where individuals with know-how can outperform the market (potential gain massively outweighs risk). Ethereum in 2017 was ONE of such rare once in a blue moon occurrences. You had your chance and squandered it. Thank the mods.
[–] No.310648>>310650
>>310647anything related to crypto is extremely paid for in risk. survivorship bias, winning the lottery.
[–] No.310650>>310651
>>310648laggie cope
>>310649You didn't have to get out in 2018. Ethereum costs $2,353.38 today and will only go higher with ETF acceptance. You just had to listen and buy at 14$. All you had to do. Just buy and then live off ETH for the rest of your days. You had one job.
[–] No.310651>>310653
>>310650So you suffered through the 2018 crash?
[–] No.310653
>>310651Yes, of course. What do you think "holding long term" means? I'm still holding and living off crypto. God tier life
[–] No.310654>>310655
>I did some modelling and extrapolated that it has extremely high likelihood of replicating Bitcoin's initial success due to tokenomic system.
>I made a post on wizchan back in the day (forgot which domain) and told you wizzies to buy ETH as it will most likely go up 100x and you will all be rich like me.
Repost it
[–] No.310655>>310656
>>310654How can I repost it? It was deleted, it was posted on wizardchan (orignal site before wizchan)
[–] No.310656
>>310655Can you at least post the summary on how you know the price will go up so much?
[–] No.310657>>310660
if ur gonna ride a bubble, AI chips r the next big thing
[–] No.310658
I remember that thread but didn’t go all in because I was way too risk adverse. I did buy some eth but I forgot all about them and am not sure where they are now
[–] No.310660>>310661
>>310657too late, priced in
you had your chance with nvidia but no more
[–] No.310661
>>310660who woulda thought that the GPUs that make games pretty would have the power to power bitcoin and AI
[–] No.310662
hey don't feel bad, i tried to help wizzies live cheaply by saying where the best groceries were the cheapest and got shit on for spaming… its nothing new here…
[–] No.310663
can you guys give me advice to make money from home that is very low effort and easy? I just want to be a neet but I am afraid of losing social welfare
[–] No.310664>>310668
Thoughts on Monero OP?
[–] No.310668>>310764>>314083
>>310664Monero is the best cryptocurrency and that is exactly why you shouldn't buy it.
Paradoxical?
Let me explain.
So Monero is flawless. It's actually, legit, 100% anonymous.
This is what Bitcoin wanted to be.
But Monero being SO GOOD is what makes the government HATE IT. That is why gov is slowly banning off and on-ramps to monero.
No legitimate companies can purchase and hold Monero.
Yes, there are DEX exchanges, but those are used by criminals (because Monero is actually so good) and big companies and normies will never buy it for that exact reason.
Monero is also harder to store. Yeah you can store it with trezor but its pain in the ass.
TL:DR: Monero is functionally the best crypto. This makes Monero ostracized and a bad investment as the system will try to get it banned.
Bitcoin is good enough to be a hodl crypto, but shitty enough for gov to allow it due to totally transparent blockchain.
This is why Bitcoin is the best investment (but not best crypto)
[–] No.310669>>310671
>>310666
> OP got lucky, now he brags about being lucky like he's in a position to give other people advice.
COPEMAXXX3000. It makes you feel better saying "I was lucky", because it would hurt so fucking bad knowing someone did the math and picked the right horse for fundamental reasons.
Suspicious being lucky three times in a row eh (BTC, ETH and S&P).
[–] No.310671
>>310669> someone did the mathWhat math did you do?
[–] No.310672>>310674>>310675
If you read between the lines, the purpose of this thread is just to humble brag about how he got rich and how smart he is for picking red on the casino table. He doesn't give a shit about wizards and doubt he's a virgin.
[–] No.310673
Show wallet/paypal/account or its just larp
[–] No.310674>>310675
>>310672He does this from time to time. Next he is going to talk about his houses.
[–] No.310675
>>310674>>310672He also isnt a virgin
[–] No.310679>>310700
I feel extremely bad about missing out on crypto gains. I knew about it before the normies and it felt like this one reward for being an imageboard browsing weirdo but I just never had the brains to do the math and balls to invest and hold and I was afraid of listening to advice out of fear of getting manipulated by shills.
The knowledge that some people became millionaires just by buying and selling some imaginary numbers while people make 0.1% of that money while breaking their back just makes me feel depressed. It feels like you are a lower human if you work for a wage.
[–] No.310680>>310703
There are certain cursed people whom whatever they invest in crashes and whatever they dont invest in booms. if you are one of those cursed ones, then crypto would have crashed just as you entered.
you can go test the theory out right now if you dont believe me.
[–] No.310683
I'm one of the mods who deleted those threads, sometime in late 2017 or early 2018.
>Admin deleted the thread for no reason.
The reason was that there were existing cryptocurrency threads, but you insisted on making your own thread.
>I tried to help and admin just deleted the thread and warned me.
Crypto shilling and investment trolling were a big problem during that period and your posts came off as spam. Then you remade your own thread after being pointed to the general and have since reminded us of your persecution on several occasions.
[–] No.310689>>310698
>>310666
any advice on flipping stuff from china ?
Do you buy on alibaba?
why don't you send it to amazon instead on ebay?
[–] No.310698
>>310689if you buy counterfeit or knockoff goods from alibaba, even if it claims to be legit, be prepared for 100% of it to be confiscated by customs and not be able to get any sort of refund or compensation from alibaba
if you want to buy something in bulk, and they send you samples and it all looks good, when you commit to buying, you should be prepared for 100% of the actual bulk to be lower, defective, broken, or used
basically any money you spend on alibaba, be prepared to lose it all, before you even have a chance to resell the thigns you buy
[–] No.310700>>317565
>>310679I cashed out my $50 bitcoins when they rose to 120 each. Why? Because I have living expenses.
Expecting the average person to hold until it hits 10k or 40k is delusional.
Most people are dirt poor and are just extremely happy if their desperate 1k crypto shot turns into 3k and they hurry to cash it out.
The only people who held their single or double digit bitcoins until they were worth millions of USD are those who were rich to begin with. For whom a random 10k bitcoin gamble loss wouldn't even make a dent in their daily finances.
No poor person ever got rich through crypto because the temptation to cash out once your holding gains 3-10x value is too high for someone who faces daily financial uncertainty in real life.
[–] No.310703>>310704>>310740>>317206
>>310680I'm one of those people. I've literally caused permanent market crashes on certain assets just by opening a moderate position in them like a few hundred or few thousand dollars. Like a smaller stock that never recovered the day after I invested in it (even 6 years later, it just slowly slides down)
Even in sports betting, really weird shit has gone down after I made a substantial bet. Like the 3-0 winning soccer team at 88 minutes suddenly suffering a 3-4 defeat in the last two minutes plus three minutes of extra time.
The universe simply blocks some people from advancing and makes sure there is utterly no way to bypass or cheat the system.
Once or twice can be chalked up to a statistical anomaly or statistically insignificant coincidences. When it happens dozens of times through your life (an event with 1:1000000 or worse odds keeps happening against you) you just know you are cursed and not meant to obtain wealth.
Meanwhile there are people like that guy who bought a few tickets and won the powerball lottery twice in a row. The universe ensures certain people simply can't lose at life even if they put in minimal effort or resources. It's all a chaotic, random hellscape with no method to the madness.
[–] No.310704
>>310703>Even in sports betting, really weird shit has gone down after I made a substantial betTell us what you've bet on next time so we can bet against you and share our winnings with you (we won't hahahahahahhahaha!!!!)
[–] No.310738
>>310626 (OP)Anyone with tips for neetbux/ssi disability? Was in iep in school, have autism/cptsd/mdd
[–] No.310740>>310741
>>310703Even ChatGPT coldly admits that a certain level of astronomical bad luck opens the possibility of being cursed by an Evil God
> If we controlled for all other factors and still found a consistent pattern of astronomically low probability events happening to an individual, it might suggest that an evil god is at play. However, it is important to note that even in such a scenario, we cannot prove the existence of a god, let alone an evil one, with empirical evidence or scientific inquiry. [–] No.310741
>>310740>Even ChatGPThas less rationale than a 4 year old succubus. It doesn't admit or agree on anything. If you ask it the exact same question with a fresh session it has a 50/50 chance of telling you the opposite of what it has just told you now. The belief in bad luck is only put in to practice by automotive insurance brokers, the quintessential underminer.
[–] No.310742
When etherium was $4 or $5 each I asked my dad if I could by some and he said no. I was a kid but had saved up allowance. It peaked at $4000 and bounced around $1000 to $2000 for a while. I could have been rich.
[–] No.310754
>>310743I sometimes play a game where I think about the bitcoin that got stolen from me when a drug market closed and they stole all the money. I think in theory, the amount they stole is growing each year, and when they stole $100 of bitcoin in 2010 when I was a student it would now be worth millions now. Each year what they stole increasing in immense value.
Of course it's a joke, because I would have wasted that money and never kept it until now because I'm a poor retard.
It just puts a spin on the idea of "oh I could have bought some". Of course, I did have some because I hung around political forums that invested heavily in bitcoin when it was worth nothing for ideological reasons, but I lost them.
The idea someone stole it from me though is more amusing, but it's all the same thing, it would have been converted to rent money long before now.
[–] No.310763>>312506>>317212
I was mocking Bitcoin as a stupid idea in 2011
[–] No.310764>>310765
>>310668I'm not OP but another early crypto adopter. I think in the long term it may be incredibly good, but it may have a tough 1-2 years ahead. Currently it is very cheap because there are no good decentralised exchanges, and there is fear it is gradually getting removed from the centralised exchanges by regulatory pressure. Tainted/illegal bitcoin and eth will become more of an issue; it will be harder and riskier to use those in the grey market. Hacks of billions of dollars worth of crypto will continue, which will need to be laundered. Societies will become more and more cashless.
Good decentralised exchanges are inevitable and being developed right now. That will allow monero to be interchanged will bitcoin and ethereum, regardless of regulations. It is inevitable that a market will emerge for a more private currency that is safe in the grey and black market. It will remain a niche currency but it will at least be a lot more valuable than now. It is just difficult to time it.
[–] No.310765>>310773
>>310764plus people seem to have long forgotten that the whole point of bitcoin was to be a currency, and only use it for gambling
[–] No.310773>>310783>>312522
>>310765it always was about speculation
[–] No.310783>>310786>>310788>>312522
>>310773Not really. The main use was and still is buying illicit drugs from the dark web, specifically methamphetamine, cocaine, weed and various pills like ketamine.
The second largest use is people speculating on the worth rising or falling.
The third and nonexistent use for bitcoin is, was and will always be payment usage, form of salary payment, car payment, house payment etc. (these happen, but in a such minuscule amount that it may as well not count).
[–] No.310786
>>310783right. is it any wonder no one takes cryptos and their zealots seriously
[–] No.310788>>312522
>>310783well who would want to use such a volatile currency to buy groceries? sure its nice when it goes up. but you don't want your daily spending money to go down by 90% in an hour
[–] No.310983
>>310626 (OP)I vaguely remember that thread. Was pretty cool, at least. Shikata ga nai~
[–] No.312506
>>310763I still do. Not believing a damn thing from what these guys say, probably just looking for some fools to sell away their red levels at.
[–] No.312522
>>310788step 1: speculate
step 2: almost all your assets are now in crypto due to the price multiplying over the years
step 3: it's now easier and cheaper to buy groceries with it directly rather than perform an exchange, report taxes, get permission from a bank to receive the money etc
Any widespread adoption would lead to similar, and the price variance is also a direct result of it being early in the adoption cycle.
>>310783The main use these days is now speculation, clearly.
>>310773The whitepaper very clearly states it was meant to be about "peer-to-peer cash" but that dream is forgotten by most
[–] No.312524
crypto leeches are the lowest of the low. I have no respect for you or anyone else who lives off of collecting financial arbitrage.
[–] No.312527
My only complain about mods its because they are now allowing crabs to post
[–] No.313908>>317204
>>310626 (OP) Teach people how to fish, instead of giving them fish.
I think that it would be better if you posted videos and free courses which explain the logic and economic theory behind your calculations. Or just general economic functions literacy.
I know it's realistically even more impossible but at least you'd have a chance to actually hwlp a couple of wizzies out not just with ETH but generally understanding investment.
[–] No.313910
OP just won the cassino, nothing more or less
[–] No.317204>>317209
>>313908Please stop posting, you know absolutely nothing about *real world* economy.
>just stop being poor bro>just start from nothing and try to catch up with the IRS and billion dollar companies as competition bro [–] No.317206>>317213
>>310703wasnt gonna post til read said post.
i genuinely believe i am cursed, not ha ha rite ok j/k
like legit unexplainable bad luck for my entire life.
ive studied it and tried to break it my entire like, minimal success.
My Present Theory:
as poster im replyin to said,
i believe we are in some kind of a simulation, call it whatever you want to call it, and most of us are meant to play a part, we volunteered to come here for it. Response: why would we volunteer for a life that sucks ass??
i dont know.
but i believe we are here to play a part, its wy we cant really alter it at all, and someone radically altering their life is almost un heard of.
As to Why someone gets cursed, i have a lot of theories, none are good.
in ancient times most men like us would of been considered cursed, and would of probably been shunned.
i talked to a gypsy a couple of years back, she told me, me, my life, is a culmination of Numerous generational curses all landed on me, and i will be end of line for te curse/s. And, didnt want to be involved beyond it , because curse could lash out for tryin to lessen it.
it is what it is i suppose,
[–] No.317212
>>310763I still do. Worthless as shit, not even currency, those pieces of software are.
Only when values do not fluctuate and a solid, nearby, collective and variated organization of markets can give you guarantees of it being accepted, is any of these "currencies" worth having. Like coupons.
[–] No.317213
>>317206A gypsy usually gives lies mixed with truths, or avoids useful truths. I'd do my research about it.
[–] No.317565
>>310700I disagree with this. You dont Have to Be rich to hold For a long Time. Just enough to comfortably get by. LIke I Have never in My Life made More than 15k a year. Yet I bought nvidia For 9k and sold For 67k after holding it For 5 years. What made me hold was The fact that 3k For example doesnt change anything in My Life. I have a Place to sleep in and food. My mother helps me sometimes with 200e. I only cashed out because I could finally buy an apartment. Which in hindsight wasnt smart because that 67k would Have Been 400k 2 years later. I'm not saying I would Have ridden Bitcoin for 10000x but thats a far cry from selling your investment with 3x. If you need 3k extra to live, you are living sbove your means
[–] No.317566
I have a similar story to OPs.
I'm running on battery power due to a storm (lol) so have limited time to post. But years ago I tried to help wizards here get jobs they would be able to do. The plan was that instead of telling people to go norm it up and ignore their problems, I focused on remote roles in tech that could be done even by people struggling to hold it together. I know what you're thinking "wow, the learn2code meme" only, this was before the meme. When it was still good advice (its not now obviously.)
Additionally, I think I was focusing on the blockchain industry at the time. When there was no competition for any role, when it was booming, and all you had to do is show up with some basic competence to land 100k+. I knew how to land these jobs because I was forced to learn this to survive. Doing it without a degree or anything. So I thought I'd be helping people by sharing what I knew.
Instead, for the next few years on this website I found myself harassed and slandered. Crabs trying to imply I was a scammer. Just actively derailing any attempt to help people. In the end I didn't bother because I had better things to do then be insulted by people I was only trying to help. Ended up just focusing on my own life. Did much better financially, bought a few houses. I can't help but think that some of the wealth that was created during that period would have really helped some people here. Ultimately, that didn't happen because of the amount of cynical crabs who post here.
OPs thread is one of many that tried to offer good advice. IMO, be sensible with your own misery and make sure you're not weighing down others who want to try.
[–] No.317567
Playing the harpsichord end quote
[–] No.317572>>317581
nigger thinks he is an expert on how to get rich because he got lucky through shitcoins lol
[–] No.317581
>>317572Yeah man, everything is just random. It's impossible to do research, learn skills, or find any opportunities for yourself. If everything is random luck then you're not responsible for your own situation. Quite convenient, don't you think?
[–] No.317610>>317614
What crypto should I pour all my life savings into OP? How long should I hold? I want to be rich.
[–] No.317614>>317623
>>317610I traded shitcoins since the beginning and think it is very unpredictable now. I moved almost everything into bitcoin.
There are two that have not launched yet that i will probably buy a little bit when they do launch (unless the marketcap is too high at launch): tari and serai
[–] No.317623>>317630>>317631
>>317614Thanks for the reply. How much more upside does bitcoin have at this point do you think?
[–] No.317630>>317646
>>317623It now depends on geopolitics so it is very hard to predict. The Biden administration was very hostile to all cryptocurrency, but Trump and other politicians seem intent on completely reversing that - they only just started to treat it as an official reserve asset, and law enforcement has dropped many cases against shitcoin scammers, so it looks like he's encouraging people to try to develop and advertise shitcoins. Europe needs to spend massively on defense so presumably they could start printing a lot of money and inflating the euro. Russia/china/india have started using bitcoin to evade sanctions. If this trend continues then there is no limit really. At the same time, if there is a recession then maybe it will perform badly as it is perceived as a risk asset. My answer may seem unclear but that's because the situation is unclear, risk is always involved, but the upside potential is definitely still there as it seems on a trajectory to become increasingly politically important
[–] No.317631
>>317623It already has a market cap of 1,50 trillion which is more than the GDP of most countries in the world.
The only capital left to be injected in the market is from either the US government or the ultra rich / global oligarchs.
So I wouldn't hold my breath. The valuation is extreme even at 80k per coin. It could burst any moment if hedge funds or big institutional investors decide to remove bitcoins from their portfolio.
[–] No.317646
>>317630Good info, I'd previously just dismissed crypto in general as a scam but it looks like it's actually got quite a few massive uses like how you mentioned Russia evading sanctions. And good point about the possible recession, in the end I might buy a bit but not too much until I see how things go.
[–] No.317647>>317650
anons who live off crypto
are you prepared for the eventuality that your crypto becomes useless?
do you have any useful skills? another source of income?
[–] No.317650>>317651
>>317647I have a lot of IT education and slowly learn more, but in reality if it came to that i'd very likely just kill myself. I have an anxiety disorder and it's so stressful to try to prepare for the worst outcomes so it feels like i should just not bother to think about it much so i can try to enjoy life more
[–] No.317651>>317655
>>317650Have you always been this way?
I mean, would you say that crypto is allowing you to live at all, or is it that you've grown so reliant on crypto, that it's become like life support - take it away, and you die?
What if crypto never existed in the first place - wouldn't you have learned to live without it?
[–] No.317655>>317665>>317830
>>317651I cant really know i suppose. I doubt I would have survived without it because 10 years ago i had a suicide method all prepared and ready to go.
Perhaps it's also the only reason i "succeeded" with it - i didnt seem to have any other option but to gamble on it. On a sociological level i think this is a common occurrence that has been a driver for its popularity. Young people are desperate and willing to gamble when they see no other way out because the economy is so fucked
[–] No.317665>>317667
>>317655This is unironically the reason why cryptos will keep skyrocketing for years.
It isn't hedge funds pumping up them with capital. They literally only keep going up because desperate 20-40 year olds keep maxing out their loans and credit cards in an attempt to get out of hell & dump it into cryptocurrency in anticipation of price appreciation.
[–] No.317667>>317750
>>317665Same with MLM/pyramid stuff. There's a lot of money to be made from young adults desperately trying to break through.
[–] No.317750
>>317667The golden years of MLM scams and crypto are only beginning.
As AI and corporate greed destroys more and more jobs, there will be billions of young people globally who will get royally fucked by having neither wealthy parents nor access to any kind of a job.
They will literally take loans from loan sharks and dump them into MLM's and cryptos.
If it doesn't work out they will kill themselves. If it does they make extra money.
[–] No.317756
>>310626 (OP)Of course. Because when cryptoscammers come around (probably mods theirselves) with their shitty taunts, they are fully allowed to post.
[–] No.317830
>>317655damn you staked your life on it. skill unlocked: god hands