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 No.307848[Reply]

I’ve come here to bitch, wizards. I’m an apprentice barely, I suppose (22 years), but I will be a wizard (for multiple reasons and beliefs), so I like the site a lot. Anyways, I’m in despair and will be in utter and complete despair for two weeks.

My parents forced my NEET-ish ass into university because they mean well and don’t want me to die on the streets once they die but not only is university/studying not for me but I’m on med school of all things, I’ve already flunked more than one class since I started the career like 2-3 years ago, so shit isn’t going well, not only that due to a stupid retarded class I’m being forced to spend two, I mean TWO fucking weeks with normies to do sort of stupid social work in some shitty rural town that’s even more shitty than my already dog shit town (not rural), I can’t even go back home for a single day on the duration of that, I’m not sure if I’ll survive, thankfully due to my mental illness (Szpd) I’ll probably be able to detach and survive but it’s going to be horrible, I don’t even like sleeping, bathing etc on the house of my grandparents (probably the unique people whom I somewhat trust and feel “oka-ish” being around outside of my parents and older brother), I might not really feel stressed, despairing and such but I know it’s happening, I just can’t feel it due to being mentally ill, of course I can still get the somatic part anyways, so my stomach is a mess right now and I feel like shitting for 5 hours straight, my hands have trembles a bit too, it’s like I’m in purgatory or something, what the fuck did I do to deserve this ? I guess that’s what I get for being depressed and suicidal for years all the while still keeping up the lie that “I want to be a doctor” because I didn’t even think I would be alive to reach university or the career itself, nor did I have (or really have) goals or a job/career I wanted, it was easier to lie at the time and just kill myself eventually. Thankfully, I got better, and I’m even content with my life in general (which is the closest I can have to happiness, as I only get to feel emotionally happy here and there for a couple of minutes a few times per year), but now I’m stuck in this horrid situation. At moments like these, I kind of wish I could at least not be mentally ill, I would have found something I really wanted to do by now or would be able to push through this career even if it’s exclusively for the degree.

But such thinking is useless, I’m now sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.307866

>>307864
you would probably stutter trying read your own post out loud in public, and it’s understandable since most people on this site spent years isolating in their room and lost any meaningful ability to communicate, being able to speak to normies without wanting to run away or shoot them in the head is a very difficult skill that needs to be practiced everyday to not be atrophied, most wizards cannot afford to speak to someone every single day, the fight or flight response is an annoyance at best and sweating or having a shaky voice is not going to save you from being beheaded by a normie anyways, nobody is going to give you a medal for making things harder for yourself, just take drugs and use any advantage you have to survive the horror of being alive, human bodies are imperfect, just because it’s natural for your body to release adrenaline in everyday situations doesn’t mean you should put up with it, just take the easy path

 No.307867

>I didn't read OP's thread because he didn't post a cute TouHou succubus drawing to grab my attention
>I'd pour isopropyl in the wounds too hahaha hope you like burning on the inside noob
Bait post derailing my aimless ramblings, many such cases at this point, it's a matter of when rather than if.

 No.307868

>>307864
>just be a healthy adult
thanks bro

 No.308571

>>307848
You probably should ask chatGPT/some other AI to cook a convincing literature club grade story on how horrifying it is to be a doctor.


Take 3 online tests to determine what kind of job you want to do.
Because, if youre afraid of blood and biohazardous materials (get infected once and you're in for a costy treatment)… but okay with being covered with coal and oil, then mechanical jobs are better for you than doctor ones.

 No.308578

Old people will form the overwhelming majority of the population in a few decades, so being a doctor sounds like one of the few jobs guaranteed to exist, if you're going to drop it don't expect to get a comfy job in the third world instead, unless you have rich or well-connected parents.



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 No.308464[Reply]

Again, that feeling returned, wondering why there was a kind of resentment within me. Memories surfaced of why things had to be this way. And well, my ego told me what my eyes had seen: that I was superior to the one who had prevented me from being myself.

Although it was all for naught, the sinister was already looming. But how can you banish something from your mind when it has become so fiercely ingrained?

Have you ever managed to rid yourself of a resentment that seemed to have become embedded in your mind?

 No.308467

no i hate everything and everyone and feel like it's absolutely justified

 No.308491

even when people ruin my life, there's no real resentment.
I just start calculating how I can get them out of my life as soon as possible.
I guess if you want to remove resentment you have to learn the skill of 'moving on'?

 No.308531

I've realized today a lot of BS between me and my parents can be attributed to the part we have spiraled into a lack of trust: i don't trust them to fix my stuff, they don't trust me to fix their stuff, yada-yada-on-repeat

 No.308561

>But how can you banish something from your mind when it has become so fiercely ingrained?

>Have you ever managed to rid yourself of a resentment that seemed to have become embedded in your mind?



It's hard to conceptualize, but I did it. Today, I have successfully rationalized it's a small group of people who got some Nietzsche-like mindset who would emotionally ask me "aren't you a [slang term for a male]?". And that doesn't reflect the values of 95-99% of males here, it's the most difficult 1-5% who assume everyone should be as competitive as *them* and who isn't, well, "their loss".

The relief is, it's not like most people would see something sussy in my behaviour, it's just a bunch of local country bumpkin »übermenschen« who would assume I was an anomaly in their »über«/»unter« dychtomy. No wonder I want to chop anyone asking this question given how sauerkraut this mindset actually is.


The moment I rationalized it was not about me I got some powerful relief. Thanks.


>I guess if you want to remove resentment you have to learn the skill of 'moving on'?



Try taking a day off, get a nice warm bath, feel safe enough to think about random stuff. Morning bath (1-2 hr) is a great tool for letting your mind wander without the extra adrenaline



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 No.305084[Reply]

>even the extrovert normalfags with an excellent social and sexual life are on multiple drugs and getting therapy
I'm absolutely done for, dude. Even my life improves, I'll still just be a monkey to the rest of them. Fuck.
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 No.305659

>>305658
Those retirement homes are some of the biggest scams out there. My grandmother was extremely rich, but sadly also stupid and mentally ill. She probably lost a couple million USD during her 3 year stay in one. The inheritance was basically 10k for each sibling when she died. Happened when I was 8 or so, found out just recently. It's quite infuriating that we could have had a decent safer life with that money put into good investments.

 No.305742

>>305443
>So many normie families I know have all their daughters NEETing at home
Why is that the case? Females are the ones who suffer the least in failed societies. Why are the sons working, for what?

 No.305743

>>305742
>Why are the sons working, for what?
Maybe their moms said they wouldn't get any more tendies until they got a job! Hahahaha!

 No.308557

>>305444
>When the next lockdown like event happens

no way kikes could pull it off like they did the first time.

 No.308560

>>305656
>Starve on the street?
Gaza will be repeated. It will hit the west just as it has hit us, you played devils advocate and the devil will come to you, you willingly embraced the Antichrists henchmen for scraps and they shall come for you too, may God make you wake up or may you suffer the same fate. Did the western elites really think they can ally with Israel and not be treated the same by them once they are in a position to do so? I hope I am wrong for the sake of your children.



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 No.305607[Reply]

Do you have this? Any tips?
I dont know if i have this but it fucked a lot of social interactions.
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 No.305728

>>305727
holy fuck was that some kind of high profile special school for wizards?

 No.305729

>>305688
Same. Shit my pants ONCE in elementary and it followed me until I graduated high school.

 No.305735

I can barely believe people have started stigmatising, pathologising and labeling being a quiet person. Quiet people do nothing wrong and this shows what ultimate cancer this society is converging to. I can already see how in some shitholes like the UK you could in the future get police check-ups at home for "being too quiet"

 No.305736

>>305735
woah where. anyway quiet people have always been dislike afaik. "who knows what shit they're thinking"

 No.308556

You're just an aware and intelligent person. To label these feelings as "selective mutism" is beyond idiocy.



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 No.308391[Reply]

we must accept it. we are losers and society mocks us no matter what we do. we're not cool. we think we're cool because we are in a website where only virgin males are in and we circle jerk together. That's why we think we're superior to normalfags while in fact we're seen has failed people. you may feel as much superior as you like on wizchan but once out of the internet, you'll be mocked for being 30+ virgin male behind your back.
It sucks; being mocked and being. alower human being. even non-white are more successful than you and being racist doesn't change that. I think racism is a kind of cope people are because they're frustrated.
You can be as much succesful as you can be (rich, good job, house, beautiful car,etc…) like every other normalfags but at the end of the day when they'll ask you if you have a wife or a gf, and after you said never, they'll think something's wrong with you or you're gay.
Some wizards donnt give a fuck because they feel above all of that but those are, according too me, a übermensch bit it is a very rare case. so don't think you're one to please you're ego. I think the wizard übermensch has everything a normalfag has in life but is morally superior to them. those who uses this power to trashtalk others isn't a übermensch according to me because he does the same shit normalfags do to others to feel better. There's a lot of wizards who mock normalfags to feel better but at the end of the day it makes them look like as bad as normalfags. the übermensch is a rare case and I am 100% sure there's no übermensch wizard on here (or maybe 0,1%).
Anyway, I'm not making a thread about the wizardmensch because it would fit most on /wiz/ than /dep/. I'm making this thread on /dep/ because I'm sad and depressed being a failure. even failednormalfags mock us.
We're ugly and dumb. feel free to delete the thread mods, I don't care I'm sad. I don't want to push my narratives unto others. I know many wouldn't agree because they live a good life and don't care about what other people think or say about him, but I know most of the wizards suffer and that's why there's a /dep/ board…if it wasn't the case, tbis board wouldn't exist. wizards are sad. in fact I don't know why they're sad because they just have to live life luke anybody else; it's just they don't have a wife and kids but live life like everyone else on this earth. so why wizards aren't happy? Most if the time is life struggle like money or shitty job.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.308534

>>308532
Neeting is superior if you have inheritances or large monthly assistance payments from parents in addition to the state assistance.

Living purely on state assistance is rarely a life worth living even in the west.

 No.308535

>>308534
If you're already locked in in min wage jobs it's a realistic option in some European countries.

 No.308536

>>308535
Yeah. From what I've heard for a lot of people working one of those shit paid jobs makes no sense if you can collect welfare from the government instead. I think you need to game the system to also get cheaper housing, maybe some additional benefits somehow, idk. If you don't need much to live it can be a decent arrangement I guess.

 No.308549

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>>308391
>even non-white are more successful than you
well you can be a nonwhite and still be a virgin otaku freak, man fuck my life
>>308534
>Living purely on state assistance is rarely a life worth living even in the west.
honestly it is quite comfy, social isolation aside but even when i was working i was too retarded to make human connections so does it really count? sure you dont have a lot of money but if you are in need you can just do a month of part time work and you're good to go, just buy an electric moped or ebike or some shit so you dont have to deal with buying gas and it's really nice the only bad thing is the weather but if you're a native european i think your body and mind is adjusted to cold weather so i guess thats just a migrant issue either way it is much better than wasting 75% of your waking time working alongside people who mock you for your mannerisms or interests

 No.308553

>>308536
yes, I'm jealous as my country has just stopped long term unemployment benefits, it is very limited now, it's finding a job or ending up homeless now
Imagine living in some Scandinavian country just collecting and being able to take walks in nature and stuff



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 No.303889[Reply]

>Were you emotionally neglected as a child?
I wonder if this led me to become who I am now, at least in social settings.
I have no idea if I suffered from this, although I remember times when I was told not to cry, or I got used to not crying over silly things that perhaps maybe weren't silly for a child.
I read those internet ads about caring for parents and children, and they recommended hugs, affection, and not denying children's pain and suffering, and that the best thing is to get it off the emotions of their chest or body.
but if this doesn't happen, then they build up a shell, armor, or something like that because they mask or hide these emotions automatically out of pure habit and training. and later they will have trouble releasing their emotions from their bodies. Babies and toddlers do this naturally when they cry.
>Also
I can't remember the last time I cried with all my might or something like that.
I wonder if this led me to be the way I am now, at least in a social way. I wonder if I can treat it. I read from an anon that some of these things can only be treated with love. But the truth is confusing.
Maybe my brain is already like this, although I read that the brain can change, as can one's habits and feelings.
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 No.308443

>>308430
However, she would comment every her stap yesterday.

I got fed up with that. She would always speak, speak, speak, but never answer a simple question.

Besides, I got her some stuff to play music but she would keep her apartment focused on her loud voice

 No.308487

just cut off all contact with your parents if they fail to display the most basic human behavior
then you don't have to deal with their nonsense

 No.308499

I'd say most of us had really messed up childhoods.

 No.308528

>>303890
>You're a dude, OP. Act like it.
rest of this post is fairly solid and i agree strongly with rejecting the whole "i need to label myself with some affliction/trauma" when in reality people are the result of their experiences (or lack thereof). e.g. most people with "autism" dont actually have some "neurodivergent" condition, they just werent around people enough/didnt get enough kindness/werent accepted. someone genuinely autistic you can tell from a mile away. most people arent. apparently having an interest makes someone autistic, not like people naturally develop interest in a specific field, you know, like what going to college or having a job requires. you dont like annoying noises like dogs barking? autistic. its all stupid catch-all junk like horoscopes. now maybe if you smear shit on walls and gush to strangers about trains, you probably are, but thats not you.

however, "youre a dudebro, act like it, man up" is such a disgustingly corny cliche for a wizard of all people to regurgitate. sort of thing some cocky normalfag would say. gross!

 No.308529

>>303890
I like how you basically wrote a comforting post only to finish it with a nuke:
>you're dud



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 No.308437[Reply]

Is the feeling of alienation familiar to you? Does it hurt?

"All my life, I have lived with the feeling that I have been kept from my true place. If the expression "metaphysical exile" had no meaning, my existence alone would afford it one."

~ Emil Cioran ; The Trouble With Being Born
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 No.308461

I comprehended I wasn't a normie a long time ago and this does not cause negative feelings.

 No.308463

>>308438
well, it’s easy doing that when you’re a 50 IQ monkey who can derive meaning and worth from supposedly belong to a pack of other monkeys, but for intelligent people that’s not a solution that’s why you can’t comprehend cioran

 No.308469

I never really understood why people like interacting with other people, like they even organize events in their free time just to meet other people as if work wasn't already too much. I just don't know how anyone can enjoy this as their free choice when it's not necessary to survive.

 No.308470

>Is the feeling of alienation familiar to you?
yes thanks to whoever/whatever i've never known what it's like to belong literally anywhere. i've never been invited twice to any group activity and i've never wanted to be invited even once in the first place. my level of socialization is basically only slightly above zero by virtue of my middle school being a survive-it-yourself shithole.
>Does it hurt?
idk not really when i'm drunk otherwise not really either idk i don't care as much as i used to i guess. well sometimes it does feel bad that i can't even connect with some retards on imageboards but i guess i don't care that much anyway after all. yeah i get what you mean but idk it's not my fault people are so insufferable

 No.308527

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>>308469
i mean, you just identified why you dont understand: theres a difference between instanced, contextualized social tampon tier work socialization, and voluntary, extracurricular "i like you, you like me, lets spend time together" real world stuff.

or at least i imagine, the latter is something ive basically never experienced, but i can see how it could actually be enjoyable and satiating as opposed to the former. i can only think back to being about 12 going on a schooltrip with friends when had a great time. lost them all a few years later though :)

if you somehow, in some unicorn scenario in adulthood, manage to accrue a collection of people you actually like who you're comfortable around, i can see how that would be fun, liberating even. never gonna happen though lol. if you dont go to uni and make friends seems like youre never gonna have any, just morsels of empty shituational relationshits instead.

as for answering the op. yes ive always felt alienated. always been relegated to the periphery, never knew what to do about it, spawnkilled my life.



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 No.307767[Reply]

>phone alarm wakes you up from blissful sleep
>you're in a warm comfy bed, under a warm blanket
>you bury your head under a blanket for 10 minutes but soon drag your ass out anyway
>drag your ass out to work, where everyone is very demanding and aggressive and hates you
>get back 10 hours later, having no energy to do anything
>do the same thing tomorrow again
I just want to sleep I'm tired of repeating the same morning torture ritual every day. If we weren't ruled by greedy subhumans we'd have 4 day work weeks by now.
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 No.308376

>>308136
There's a lot of info online, just scrape off the normie mumbo jumbo they like to give. Don't trust any other homeless person either, don't make enemies but dont trust them. Often they are extremely mentally deranged or morally bankrupt and can hide it quite well.

Outside of literally surviving decently you'll need to pick up a pass time so you dont go crazy, hard to do as a homeless. Probably look on google maps where the best spots are. Ideally you want privacy but access to wifi.

 No.308383

>>307892
>For many people, freedom is only found within walls.
Freedom is only found within walls?
I don't understand what you are saying.

 No.308399

>>308375
i wish i knew a way to fix this specifically. its the hardest part of working, resisting the colossal urge to go back to sleep and forget it all in the morning. its basically a subconscious instinct to me. doesn't matter if i slept 6 hours or 12. i just dont know how normal people do it.

 No.308472

>>307767
I got work tomorrow, 6am start and it's 12:48AM.

At least I changed my alarm clock sound so I don't get that PTSD Cortisol spike as bad

 No.308500

>>308399
It gets only slightly better once you're at work, sort of. I'm back at work tomorrow after having a few days off. I have a massive urge to just not show up, or to just quit and live off savings and become homeless afterwards but i know its way too rough and scary



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 No.307689[Reply]

I am losing my motivation im gonna fail out of Uni
I dont really want to quit, but I have less and less energy
I am in a state of constant burnout despite doing nearly nothing
im such a failure
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 No.308367

>>308363
>Schizoid
Hey that's me! And I agree completely with what you say to be honest, at least I'm not depressed anymore, if I was, college would have actually made me commit suicide.
It's been horrible to be honest, I can mask well enough to where people have no mayor issues working/interacting with me (they do know I'm not normal, and I've been told so a couple of times by normies) but I'm kinda masked and dissociated during and after class, genuinely I have to lay down for a good chunk of time, utterly defeated and tired after I get home from that shit.
Not only that, due to the anhedonia and apathy I don't give a shit about my degree (forced to get it by parents, I won't lol) and not only is my career hard as shit (medicine), it's super social so I'm genuinely dying, the worst part is of course I'm not built for this career or higher education in general (always hated studying and the education system as a whole) but my parents really want me to get a degree and I'm a leech in a third world country, so what can I really do, not like it matters too much when I'm home as I just bury myself in my hobbies, I don't really derive much pleasure from them mind you, like barely a bit here and there but they're a good way to burn time till I eventually die, and overall better than watching paint dry while I daydream.

Anyways, I relate to what you say, college ain't built for people with certain mental illnesses, especially if they have no drive/desire for that education to begin with, but well, not like we can do much, and working isn't particularly better, we genuinely are not built for society as you say, fuck this is so tiresome, good luck wizard, hopefully we'll both have a good ending, I'm definitely flunking one or two classes this semester, maybe my parents will finally get the memo and allow me to work or something.

 No.308379

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>>308367
i guess i am clinically depressed right now. i bit the bullet and asked for a psychiatrist recently, and they stuffed me full of antidepressants, i don't feel any different yet but maybe that will change. good luck to you too fellow apprentice, give up the schools of man but do not give up the school of wizardry

 No.308381

>>308379
> i guess i am clinically depressed right now. i bit the bullet and asked for a psychiatrist recently, and they stuffed me full of antidepressants, i don't feel any different yet but maybe that will change.
Good luck then senior wizard, I wouldn’t wish depression on anyone, especially if like me they have another condition on top of it, hopefully you can find some release or help of some sort, even if it’s just some sort of personal peace, that’s the road I’m personally on because I don’t really believe there’s any cure for my Szpd.
Though I do recommend you to keep taking the meds for some time (I would say if you reach 1-2 months without any change then yeah, they won’t help), at least for me they did help massively (I would say they did a decent chunk of the work, the rest was trough personal efforts/changes and a the talk therapy did help a bit), but I can admit that how well they work seems to depend heavily from individual to individual (neurochemistry/genetics are a bitch) and TRD (treatment resistant depression) does exist too.

> good luck to you too fellow apprentice, give up the schools of man but do not give up the school of wizardry

Thanks senior wizard, nothing will get me out of the wizard school to be honest, I literally made a personal vow to the Lord to stay on it due to my waifu, so yeah, I’ll be a fully fledged wizard eventually and I’ll die a wizard.

 No.308382

>>307689
>despite doing nearly nothing

that is precisely why you are in a burnout state

 No.308496

>>307689
I was in your exact same situation, and then realized my meds were the source of my lack of motivation. It took a few months of withdrawal and even worse anhedonia before I got my willpower back. I don't know if you take any psych, but they might be the culprit if you do



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 No.306265[Reply]

I feel like a lot of people, especially older normies overestimate the abilities of the average guy and the problems that are out there to be solved in real life.

There is this old guy I listened to for the past decade now called Eli the Computer Guy and he often repeats this mantra that a tech professional should go out there pick themselves up by their bootstraps and solve problems for money.
Solve real world problems for money. Provide solutions using your skills. Over and over again while teaching people about making toy cars with a microcomputer or whatever.

Issue is there aren't any problems the average guy is capable of solving that people are able to pay enough for to make it worthwhile.
Maybe I'm low IQ and not creative enough, but that is the point I guess.
The average guy that got a CS or engineering degree and is now doing menial tasks at a big corporation isn't going to create groundbreaking solutions because everything worth doing, all the low hanging fruit and obvious problem/solution pairs have been done to death, patented to death or worse.

Big tech is so big that they offer a solution so refined, so solid, so cheap that no mom-and-pop shop will ever give you the time of day if those even exist.
The average normie is quite content with a phone which is basically a toy-ified computer gadget.
They don't need more.
Most even run their own little business from it using a handful of cheap/free big tech tools that if you were to offer a homebrew solution for it would cost an arm and leg to maintain without economies of scale.

What does a network tech that wants to "solve problems" do aside from running cable? You could lease a 10G fiber line from a big ISP and sublet it by wiring up a small village I guess?
Then the government gives a huge fucking grant to big ISP and they just wire up every small village themselves leaving you with nothing.
If you are lucky you can become a subcontractor doing menial tasks for the big ISP in a set region.

What does the average coder do now? Especially with the future of them limiting hardware/software access? Every app is made that a normie needs. Kinda like with websites.
Every normie uses less than a dozen of them, mostly through apps…
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 No.308445

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>>306265
I recently dropped out of a computer engineering degree after trying to make it for five years. The coursework probably would have been manageable but I was also working part time alongside it to be able to upgrade my PC, buy games etc. It was those IT gigs that really killed my spirit for the field. I went in thinking similarly to this ideal of Eli you mentioned. I was interested in computers and inspired by the stories of the olden C-era days where a bunch of really smart guys just got together and wrote the UNIX operating system and so on. That philosophy of understanding the machine deeply and writing small but really fast programs that you can chain together to do really complex stuff resonated with me. But once you work in the field it is exactly what you describe. Even IT companies rely on big tech software packages as much as they can, and you are just gluing together various big tech APIs or hacking together shitty Python scripts that will be used for a few months and then abandoned. Everything is just about delivering "something" as fast as possible and not really worrying about how it will fuck you up in the long term because you just hope that by that point there will be a new project or you start from scratch anyways. It was so demoralizing to see that this culture of wanting to deeply understand the tech and underlying issues and creating elegant solutions for them has been completely replaced by this ugly, horrible, boilerplate-off-the-shelf-parts "just ship it" mentality. It killed my spirit for all things tech, frankly. Now I am NEETing, though I will apprentice to become an electrician with a municipality in the fall. If I can get hired on afterwards then as far as I understand it's very rare to be fired again as a public employee. So there's that I guess, even if the pay is less than private sector work. And who knows, maybe that job will fry me in some other way and make me quit, though then I'd really be at my wit's end as to how I could make a living. As for being filtered … where I live most apprentices start after school at 16-17 yo, I am a decade older than that. So economically I'm way behind what would be expected, not to mention socially. I don't really feel "culled" but perhaps that's because I'm still comfortable materially, even if I don't see much of a future for myself and most people would probably call me a loosePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.308448

>>306744
>>306273
>>306265
Eh. Really? You wanted to pursue a career in computers and electronics, but got into trouble? So did I. Tried to enroll into an uni, dropped out due to being unable to grasp the basics. Tried again. And then again. Ugh. My mom would shut me up had I tried to bring up the topic of changing careers.


Funniest thing is, I can afford my bread and butter though. But it has nothing to do with programming qua programming…

 No.308455

>>308445
>computer engineering
I'm actually pursuing the same degree. It's nice to know that someone else has the same ideals & interests.
>after trying to make it for five years
That's a long time for a Bachelor's degree. Did you at least receive a degree, even in another field?
>It was those IT gigs that really killed my spirit for the field.
Explain.
>where I live most apprentices start after school at 16-17 yo, I am a decade older than that.
Even for someone who has just left college after 5 years, that's still old. Did you take a gap year(s)?

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>>308455
>That's a long time for a Bachelor's degree. Did you at least receive a degree, even in another field?
Yes it's a long time. I started uni late because I switched schools in my final year and then had to wait for the new term to start and then redo the last couple of school years to get my diploma (that's just how it works here when you switch schools). So by the time I started uni I was almost 21 already. I did not finish my college degree, no. I basically just kept myself going through sunk-cost fallacy thinking and trying to gaslight myself into believing in that 100% remote job at the end of the tunnel.
>Explain.
Every IT gig I worked (by that I mean jobs in actual IT companies, not IT departments in normal companies, since those tend to be more tech support, office expert and what not) was some kind of demoralizing. I witnessed job cuts, outsourcing and offshoring. I saw people not working on cool technical problems but instead spend their days in Teams meetings, frustrated and exhausted like a boxer on the ropes. Most of the work is project management, clarifying and re-clarifying and changing requirements according to what the customer wants. Everyone was constantly frustrated and tired. Best case they had a kind of fatalistic humor about the whole thing and worst thing they just kept dredging along because they had families that relied on them for income. That was the future I was looking forward to if I stayed in that field I knew, but I also had already invested years into the degree so I was paralyzed and unable to just quit, making it worse semester by semester.

 No.308460

The average guy who has been successful has almost 99.99% of the time been helped by family or friends in someway. You have to make money to earn money. You typically cant just throw yourself out there and expect to succeed.

It's what you do with your resources and how you use them that make you survive.



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