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 No.303825[Reply]

Would they? I've been thinking.

My mom is already LDAR'ing due to the debt and she's already lost one child, so I think either by suicide or stress she would die. My dad? He didn't seem to care that much when my stepbro died, but I am his firstborn. I don't know really. My little brother would probably just turn into me. That's my only concern. Everyone else, would cry for a day maybe.
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 No.310625

My little cousin would maybe be a bit sad. Parents would pretend to be sad about it then stop caring after a bit. Outside of that, no one would care.

 No.310629

>>303825
only my aunt and my dad. after they pass away, all bets are off

 No.310631

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>>305962
>my life was like a game of running away from gross people
I relate to this very much. My parents allowed one of my older brothers to sexually and physically abuse me every day throughout my childhood. The best feeling ever was cutting them off. Even though I’m homeless, atleast I have a job, and I never have to talk to them ever again. I feel better, and being homeless isn’t even 10% as bad as people say, but I’m still sodapressed.

 No.310768

>>303825
So, I think I know what would happen should I untimely perish.

They would hold onto my things as some dusty memorabilia, get their apartment all wrecked and end up in the kind of a nuthouse old mad people aren't expected to ever leave…

 No.311388

Only my mom, and basically that's the only thing keeping me from doing it. Besides, my parents are old (both 74+) and they likely die if I wasn't here, they're stuck up in the past (specially my boomer dad) and cannot manage in the current world. They're partially the source of my depression so this creates a vicious cycle. My mom is also deluded into thinking I'll "be happy" and "make it" someday (I'm 38).

I wish they died so I can finally rope without guilt but it seems like they'll live up to their 90s (my grandma died at 95). I guess I'll end having a collapse and killing myself anyways, I can't take this anymore and the idea of this loop continuing for years is destroying me



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 No.311347[Reply]

I feel like I just want to die, I've already prepared a rope for tomorrow, I hate this life, I really want to die, i can suicide tommorow, Goodbye.
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 No.311365

im sorry, my friend wiz. i want die too, but i like stay wizchan. i hope u cant feel any pain and can rest in piece. if u want to talk, come here again. goodbye for now, wiz.

 No.311372

yeah fuck this existence

 No.311384

>>311360
>Is that a legit option?

if there is a place that stays warm enough year round i'd think so. the fruit and the coconut would keep the hermit in peak health so when accidents can be prevented there is no need for healthcare.

>You might be joking, but I see your point. If its being a homeless hermit or offing yourself, why not try the first?


no i'm not joking, i hate living in the metropolis plantation, i hate the cold climate where i have to hide inside in the winter, i hate the people being degenerate soulless cogwheels and live of candy, pizza and beverages.

 No.311385

>>311384
>the fruit and the coconut would keep the hermit in peak health
"Diabetic" isn't peak health.
>i hate the cold climate where i have to hide inside in the winter
Feeling cold is a consequence of poor health choices.

 No.311386

>>311385
>"Diabetic" isn't peak health.

don't talk about peak health you filthy breadeater



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 No.311314[Reply]

This is my life, I can't take it anymore. Being unemployed for too long has made me depressed and crazy, just busy blaming others, spending time in front of my phone and computer screen. Bro, I'm going to die at home with my crazy parents who keep blaming me. I can't even die, it's so hard to find a job. I don't know what else to do. I want to die but I don't want to kill myself, I'm too scared to do it. In junior high, I thought the bullying and demands for school fees were the worst things I've ever experienced until I went crazy and thought about killing myself. But it turns out, being unemployed now is much worse than I thought, especially with crazy parents who keep blaming me every day until I want to die. Maybe financially I'm still supported by my parents, but mentally I'm a mess. I want to go crazy but I can't. The world seems to be holding me back, right? If I apply for a job and act crazy at work, the world will definitely hold me back, just like when I was in high school, I acted crazy as if someone was holding me back from acting crazy. I can't stand it anymore, I'm going to be wild and crazy hahahaha damn damn damn this world, I want to scream HUAAAHH… When I was in high school I was treated special by my friends at school but because of that I was also hated because they were ENVY of me who was liked by all my friends, unlike when I was in junior high where I was bullied and demands for school fees and in high school I deliberately gave a speech about covid 19 so that I would be evil, when I was in kindergarten I gave a monster speech so it seemed like there was something that fit with it and sure enough in high school those who thought I was evil and those who were jealous saw me get opportunities and I was pushed aside and now I've graduated from school and am unemployed with crazy parents and I'm going crazy, if this world thinks I'm evil and everyone thinks I'm evil why not, if I'm considered stupid and weird why don't I accept it all I'm evil, stupid, weird, and i deserved it. I watched a gore documentary and it turns out there are people who are more evil than me because I am evil because of Covid 19, and I am afraid of killers, but strangely, when I was in high school, there was a murder case and the trial never ended, 8 month case and strangely, the trial was over the next day when I gave a speech in class when I was in high school and now I have graduated and am unemployed.

 No.311367

being unempoyed for too long here, and this shit made me more depressed.

even u thought u are evil, u are a good wiz. trying to find a job too, but its so hard. mess here too.

 No.311371

there has to be something you can do!!

 No.311375

>>311314
this is why im thankful for my job. im alone in silence overnight in an office building. typing this on the clock right now. feels comfy. even though i don't really enjoy my life, its comfortable and free of stress



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 No.311260[Reply]

People with suicidal ideation tend to put blame on themselves, whereas people who don't tend to blame others. Where do you redirect your pain?

I'm not sure if people who are suicidal are fearful of life or hateful of it. I think hating it has an element of arrogance like 'only if x didn't happen,' only if y didn't do it to me.' It's as if they're indirectly saying that they could be better if certain circumstances didn't happen. Doesn't that point to the idea that the person is inherently competent but those external circumstances made them fail? I believe I don't fall into this line of reasoning. I believe I'd fail if I were put in another person's shoes. I'd still fail if all the opportunities in the world were present to me. There's a birth defect in me. I can't stay committed to anything, not my friends, not my job, not anything. I treat others like shit because I am one myself. I put the guilt on myself. Suicidal and depressed people who put the blame on others seem like a walking paradox. I decided to make this post after observing some of what the anons here have said. Everyone seems to have an infirectly positive outlook on themselves
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 No.311301

Maybe one needs to overcome the concept of guilt altogether because it only leads to hate, grief and punishment. Also do not think you have to enjoy living because that's a burden almost nobody can take honestly. It's a ruse to keep you in check, to enable capitalism even when you don't need to work to survive as it suggests you now have to work even harder to enjoy.

 No.311306

It's incredibly simple OP: I've been hated enough by the world, I WILL NOT, under any circumstance, add any more hatred in my life. I'd rather become a literal demon to those around me than punish or hurt myself further.

To make it short, I believe the fundamental difference between someone who hates himself and someone who hates others, like myself, is whether they had someone with them during their darkest moment. Needless to say I had nobody, that does profound changes to your psyche and spirit, and resentment is the only natural conclusion. Am I better or worse than the self-haters? Honestly who fucking cares, life is so fucking shit for so many people regardless of suicidal-ideation or not, class, race, region, even sex. It's a literal prison planet. If anything I stronly believe what this world is missing is hatred, we need 1,000% more hate in this world, but it needs to be correctly directed and that's the part I can't be fucked to explain (nothing will change so again, who cares)

 No.311307

>>311260
>People with suicidal ideation

Some people just walk their day thinking their life is not so bad and SUDDENLY dash to a car conveniently doing 95 on a quiet street lane.

 No.311322

I completely avoid thinking 'in terms of blame' unless someone directly did something to you.
bad life for whatever reason = suicidal ideation

 No.311366

yeah, i think all the bad things is only my fault too.

i have a good mother, a good sis and other people loves me, but really, i cant even understand why i act like a fucking dumb. like u, i cant stay ommited to anything. job, with m family. i treat all the people who loves me like a trash, even when i dont wanna do it. after, i just cut myself and the vicious again makes me crazy every single day. im gonna kill myself. i wanna die. im a bad person. a birth defect too. my meds doesnt work anymore.

need try suicide again. hope i can do it 100%



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 No.304408[Reply]

new internet of over 10 yrs now… is it me or there is nothing left to talk about?
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 No.307679

>>307678
so lowbrow lol. time to reboot, you've got a windows 11 update is pending

 No.307990

I hate how everything's hobby-related online has become a dick measuring contest. People can't seem to have genuine interest in things without making it about views, clicks, or money.

 No.307999

>>307990
hard to have genuine interest in anything when you can have zero reward in either short or long term

 No.310412

I think I am going to disconnect soon, too. Dead Internet is winning. This post may be my goodbye.

Just stay safe, ok?

 No.311349

try neocities
(it's like "geocities" but revamped)



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 No.310999[Reply]

I just want to vent my frustration here. Why is it that when I’m hated and constantly treated like trash and a loser by everyone they suddenly act sweet toward me? If I’m truly loathed and viewed as nothing more than garbage and a failure, why do those hypocrites act so nice? I don’t mind being seen that way, but when they suddenly soften their attitude, it feels incredibly hypocritical. Why do they suddenly act kindly? If you hate me, then hate me don't hold back, just hate me fully. Its infuriating. Don't try to soften a heart that has already been wounded by a million pains it only adds to my suffering.
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 No.311128

>>311127
>Regards, a person who composured his way from a conversation with some liquor-scented old succubus tonight.

You didn't need to "composure" your way out of that conversation. You could have just told her she reeks like alcohol and that you don't want to converse with her. You're an adult, after all.

 No.311230

>>310999
I've experienced the same frustration, if you don't like me why don't you just fuck off?
Only breaking off contact and living alone helped.

 No.311242

>>310999
they're banking on you letting your guard down and gathering compromising info to leverage against you at a later point

 No.311280

>>310999
People do that for the same reason a phycho doesn't murder someone in broad daylight with a bunch of witnesses. Unless they're a masochist and like getting caught, or wish to forward some kind of inhumane purview.

People have a public image. They like to keep it consistent under the light of scrutiny, then unveil their true colors under the cover of darkness.

I'm sorry this has happened to you so consitently. Sometimes people suck. But remember that if they are shoving all this hate onto you and acting all hypocritical, they probably feel insecure about themselves. Don't take them too seriously. Rather, fee bad for them that they would willingly choose to act like a spoiled elementary school bully.

 No.311284

>>310999
That reminds me of normgroid scum who were shittalking me constantly but sometimes pretended to be bros with me for the sake of wicked fun. It's a perverse technique they use, this sudden fake niceness. If you believe them, they mock and humiliate you. If you don't believe them, they will use your negative reaction as a reason to mock you as well, something like "I was being nice to you, you piece of shit, how dare you'.
There is no winning with the normalcattle.



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 No.310311[Reply]

I love wizchan because it is the only place where you can be pro-suicide without getting banned or exposed or criminalized, I feel like the whole internet has been psychiatrized
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 No.310570

>>310564
blah blah making universal rules again.

 No.310571

>>310564
>and it is wrong because….because it could hurt mommy and daddy!
there is no rational reason to consider suicide wrong, it is a legitimate choice for anyone who desires to become unconscious

 No.311248

>>310316
>I forget the name, but there's a pretty popular public forum where they give you detailed instructions how to die and everything
maybe you mean sanctioned suicide? i liked reading posts there and here at one point

 No.311249

Please dont kill yourself. Suicide is wrong because it makes me sad to see a wizard die :'(

But seriously, I like wizchan for suicide tolerance too. Sanctioned Suicide is absolutely overrun by mentally ill vegan foids and its so corny.

 No.311252

yeah I don't get it I got banned from a site for simply discussing suicide
overmoderation is real



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 No.308694[Reply]

Do you think suicide hotlines are helpful? I have been calling them almost everyday without anything improving.
Is there a better alternative?
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 No.310542

No, they make me feel even more cynical and make me feel even worse.

 No.311226

>>308739
I equate payphones to save points or storage locations in video games. I never needed to use one but I always imagined I'd use one when I was a grown up whilst wearing a big coat and smoking a cigar/cigarette.

 No.311229

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What do you even expect from them? If I had to bet I think those people just project people around them who have committed suicide before into you, when they talk about how you are going to make others sad, they probably are thinking about how they themselves felt before. There isn't anything someone who don't know anything about you can give you an advice that can actually make you feel better in the long term.
>>308706
Wow.

 No.311240

>>308694
No they are not.
I called one after cutting myself. Not seriously enough to die, but I bleed a lot. The indifferent normalfag on the other side of the phone talked down to me as if I was a child, lectured me, said I should go to the psychiatrist and get pills, they will help. Yeeeeeeeah
I will never call one again, ever.
It was humiliating. Normalfags are horrible.

 No.311246

>>311226
That's kind of like how I feel about being a serious-minded businessman sitting in public transportation reading the daily newspaper of record for the finance section



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 No.311076[Reply]

Looking for some feedback on if the process in this picture would work, and what gas would be needed.
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 No.311228

>>311225
>I suppose buying an older car and using the fumes to go to sleep would be the next best alternative?
No. There is no next best alternative because when it comes to these convoluted Rube Goldberg X Dr. Suess methods of death, there is nothing good about them in the first place. They're all equally fucking retarded.

The car exhaust "method" is particularly absurd because its entire spread came from honest concerns about manifold leaks entering the car's air recycler causing disorientation which could lead to loss of control over the vehicle. The notion of it being reliably deadly came from the assumption that the person in the car was driving it at 80Mph. Yes, concentrated O2 emissions are deadly but the means to obtain a reliably lethal outcome that doesn't involve accidentally careening off an icy overpass are so out of reach and not without dozens of points of failure. If someone is "suicidal", and their plan involves:
>purchasing an older used car
>Removing the catalytic converter
>fueling it up
>running tubes from the {now chopped up) tailpipe to the cabin
>sealing all air leaks, involving the entire AC system that recycles air from the cab no matter what
>idling for hours
>in sweltering heat and total sensory irritation
>to pass out in a way that would (again) cause spazms, torment reflexes, and a huge potential for vegetation if interrupted.
Then they're just not fucking suicidal. They're merely incredibly stupid. So stupid that they were just as easily convinced that suicide was the answer they sought, as they were convinced that the "easiest" method was so plainly complicated.

 No.311231

>>311208
this doesn't work like this retard, you pick your method and then do it once and then it's over forever
if he can't succesfully control the gas his attempt will fail
people have been using ropes to end themselves since antiquity

 No.311232

>>311231
>this doesn't work like this retard, you pick your method and then do it once and then it's over forever
Then go do it once.
>if he can't succesfully control the gas
(He won't successfully control the gas)
>his attempt will fail
And then he will be labelled a threat to himself and placed under occasional surveillance, being stripped of much of his freedom of travel. If in this failing experience he develops a newfound fear of death, he'll forever live life with that fear, now with a brain and body even less capable of enduring such powerful emotions. Highly likely to fail, and that failure will surely make a second attempt even harder, and the rest of his life worse than it was when he decided to end it the first time.
>people have been using ropes to end themselves since antiquity
Carry the torch.

 No.311238

If youre asking instead of looking it up yourself. Youre fake and gay and probably a normalnigger in disguise, dramatizing suicide because faggotry

>>311228
>Rube Goldberg
You know I actually agree with this except the method I most researched, and almost got close to building, was sorta this. My plan was a lightly weighted swinguing guillotine or blade, hanging from a timer-relay lock above you, below is a bed or fram with a plastic head basket like the things hairdressers use, and straps to hold the neck and body in place. The idea was to get shitfaced with alcohol and benzos before it. But yeah I guess the biggest problem was reliably holding yourself down so as to not make that shit cut your face in half, or your chest, and making sure the dose was enough to knock you out. I think the nervousness and restless of preparing and approaching your final seconds of life, the adrenaline could overpower some seddatives. I live in no-gunz cucked country, if I had access to a shotgun thatd be my preferred method.

Something I never got about the car exhaust method is if people ever thought about how little, literally sipping, fuel an idling engine consumes. And I cannot think of an easy way to load an engine in an enclosed space, dynos are hella costly

 No.311286

>>311232
why are you even here



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 No.309743[Reply]

I'm very depressed and I will also develop chaos in my mind so I don't care about everyone anymore and I will destroy everything why should I be a fool who can only blame myself while others can be happy without being able to feel how crazy this world is I will destroy everything and if this world ends and everything is destroyed then I will be a living witness that I am the one who knows how cruel this world is and how unfair all of this is everyone everything everything must have an end if it doesn't end then I will always be in hell or at least be locked up as rotting flesh
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 No.309783

>>309776

labels dont help, they hinder. they are used by people to dismiss the problem and abandon responsibility, which likely is the only path to healing. you don't have depression, you have something way more specific, personal and complicated. when you call it depression, you let yourself be seduced by the diagnostic language; it's often hollow promises and the undignified preemptive certainty they hide behind. i say do the oposite: describe your condition as crude, unhinged, precise and accessible to others as you can. your name about your condition should be so easy to understand that when you tell it to someone who has no idea about it, understands it the first time you mention it without having to ask fir details.

"i thought i had to fart the other day but i actually shat my pants with liquid shit a little" now that's how i talk about my most recenr condition, without shame! not using this ridiculous gatekept medical language.

 No.309788

>>309783
so i have a very specific, personal kind or depression, that is actually a bit comorbid with my overall inclination to being anxious?

 No.309791

>>309788
>so i have a very specific, personal kind or depression, that is actually a bit comorbid with my overall inclination to being anxious?

i can never know what you have because i can't feel what you feel so what could my opinion possibly be worth. nothing. i can look at your approach though. when you tell me with your chest sticking out all proud and identified: "i have depression!" then i don't know how that feels like, that tells me nothing. the term is like a shotgun and hits everything, you want something that only hits what you actually have precisely. you know the term is too much of a blanket term to be useful by the fact that you would receive 100 different answers if you asked 100 depressed people about their condition and not the same answer 100 times.

calling it comorbid and anxiety is at least a step in the right direction but you are once again committing what i in my pieced-together understanding of mental health believe to be a mistake: you just repeat medical labels as if they meant anything. what i believe to be way better would be to invent/sculpt/compose/craft/sketch a way to describe what is actually going on so that when a kid in the park asks you what is wrong with you, you could tell it in a way that makes sense to the kid and then the kid in the park might have a way better idea on what to do about it then any doctor ever because the kid did not have it's humanity pranked, whipped and tortured out of it in medschool.

most importantly though, bothering to be precise about it will give you better ideas on what to try to make things better and the most healing the most helping will be what you do to yourself, not what will be done onto you by others. don't wait to be rescued, nobody is coming, you do the rescuing.

 No.311066

>>309791
You are amazing in a way, but you sound like you may (or might) have paranoia

 No.311181

just stop thinking about 'other people'



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