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 No.306449[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What is the average wizard's relationship with religion like? No religious person has ever been able to give me a good argument for why God, if he is out there, is not the most maximally evil being in the universe simply by the virtue of creating suffering when he could have chosen not to. Saying "suffering builds character" and derivatives of is just a manifestation of their stockholm syndrome for this vile entity

>I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I YHWH do all these things - Isaiah 45:7
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 No.309470

>>309469
repent bro

 No.309523

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 No.309580

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religion makes a lot more sense and actually came full circle and became a source of inspiration again, once I realized Yahweh is the villain

 No.309589

>>309523
I personally didn't really care to post in this thread or enter into this discussion much, but I will say that the quote you've posted sums up (mostly) my thoughts on the existence and misguided worship of God.

 No.309730

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 No.309084[Reply]

Anyone experienced getting fired from almost all jobs they ever had? I’ve failed at almost everything I ever had and got insulted before. Has anyone expirienced something similar
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 No.309660

>>309658
>I don't know how to do shit, man
…They train you on the job.

 No.309661

>>309660
that said, now I need to get over my fear of going out and look for a job.

 No.309667

>>309661
>I need to get over my fear of going out

There's nothing to fear. The only result of failure is being temporarily put back in to the state that you're currently in. Nothing bad can result from trying and failing.

 No.309698

>>309659
Mostly math, like topology. Philosophy would be interesting too. I want to learn German but I have no idea where to start.

 No.309705

>>309084
Are you sure that's low-IQ? That can also happen if you have problems focusing like ADD. Some people really just hate and aren't built for work, which is a normal thing to hate, doesn't mean you're stupid.



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 No.309319[Reply]

I wasted 12 years of my life being stuck in shitty apartment with my in a third world country
This includes all of my teen hood as well as a bit of my adulthood
After realizing this, I got depressed. I just wish I could have done more things that were more important to me, such as starting out drawing earlier and moving out of that shitty apartment. It just hurt how much time I wasted being terminally ill online while being stuck in hell.
I am not sure how to get over this. I have time. I am 23, but still knowing that my life could have been better in the 2010s and the early 2020s hurts me deeply. I wish I was smarter. I wish my mom was not a lazy whore who constantly smokes and eats, and she sold that fucking apartment earlier so we could find somewhere better for life.
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 No.309502

>>309319
I hate to be an optimist, but im 35 and i can tell you, at 23, you do still have time. you've got about 7 years. you just have to get on the first rung of the ladder and climb whatever path you decide to set out on. after about 30, you simply will not be willing to do anything. I've accepted who i am and the fate which that entails. its gonna be a life of mediocrity, regret, and sullenness. I could've done alot more but I tucked my tail and consoled myself in isolation and self pity around 25. I could've stepped up and faced adversity but i didn't.

 No.309617

>>309476
was born in 2002 as well
honestly at this point i really dont know
>>309502
i have still time but i am afraid it not enough for me and my goals like the time is getting fast and there is no time for me to relax and just have fun and not care about the future like i used too

 No.309618

>>309476
I don't think "late bloomers" exist. At least not in large enough numbers to be relevant
Adults don't change that much. They just snowball whatever they learned in their formative years, whether that was good or bad or like many here simply nothing much at all.

 No.309687

>>309502
What can I do if I am lacking energy and willpower to make something of myself in my twenties?
I really want to make something of myself and be able to look back and feel proud, but I always nurn out quickly and usually feel nothing.

 No.309690

>>309687
deconstruct your self image, detach from you circumstance, and find a way forward. the more you look toward the ends, the more you a lost in the trackless maze. it is a direction that you should seek, not a destination. meditate, overcome, master.



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 No.307971[Reply]

I know there’s nothing wrong with me. I’m perfect. I’m skinny, kind, and thoughtful. But the isolation from everyone around me has been getting to me. Nobody has ever put effort into me. I changed my style just to receive barely any compliments, then proceeded to get ignored by everyone. No whore has ever thought of me as a man. They’re gross creatures who look at me and think I’m homosexual. I’m not. Just because I look like a slut doesn’t mean I am one. Then I am being secluded for not being manly enough. other male seems to think of me as one of them either, shouldn’t I be given respect from my fellow peers and colleagues?
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>>308035
>crabibate

 No.308040

>>308038
Lol… sorry, stupid typo.

 No.308049

>>308040
you called yourself an involuntary celibate tho

 No.308899

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>Just because I look like a slut doesn’t mean I am one.
While this is one of the funniest things i've read this year, i'll tell you to fuck off (faggot)

 No.309650

>>307971
>Just because I look like a slut doesn’t mean I am one.
Off this comment alone, no. You sound like a huge faggot.



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 No.305228[Reply]

I think age 31-32 was the point where I realized I'm too autistic and weird to ever have 'normal' things in life.

I will die either institutionalized or in some shitty rental with nothing to my name. Nothing that I dreamed about will ever become true.
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 No.309499

>>305228
Since 25 its as if the film reel that is my life ran out of film and it just kept spinning and projecting a blank screen.

There was never a sense of urgency for me to "adapt" and get a respectable career once i graduated college. That sense of urgency that grips normies and compels them to achieve, network, form relationships just didn't exist in me. i never gave a shit about other people around me or my reputation etc. My parents divorced when i was 7 and i don't think they actually wanted to have children. Mom was abusive and died, dad is emotionally distant and never seemed to have actively engaged with me to mold and shape me into a functional adult. he just let me do whatever, so i just lazed around and fucked off.

I have this instinctive laziness. I bowed out of any classes that involved math or numbers at all. Got a worthless degree. I'm 35 now and I've been working as an overnight security guard for the past 4 years. I literally do nothing all night for 8 hours. I just sit at a desk. I'm on the clock typing this right now.

I feel like you have to be on some kind of continual, upward trajectory so that by the time you're 30 you're established and at cruising altitude; financially, professionally, socially, and romantically. I did "nothing" all of my 20s.

I enjoy the simple pleasures of life. a cigarette alone at the park, a local pizza, good pilsner, good books, and having peace and quiet without pressure from the world of normies or my family

 No.309583

>>309499
I feel as though I also had this weird sense of laziness during my 20s. I always had healthy anxiety to get things done, but I always thought things would eventually fall into place. Coincidentally I spent my 20s as a security guard until I decided to get a CDL. At 34 I now have this sense of finality. This is it. This is my life until I die, which I hope is soon.


>I enjoy the simple pleasures of life. a cigarette alone at the park, a local pizza, good pilsner, good books, and having peace and quiet without pressure from the world of normies or my family


I used to so the same but food no longer tastes like anything and beer just makes me fall asleep before getting fully drunk. It's as though my brain is telling me it's time to go and there's nothing more to do, not even have fun.

 No.309590

>>309583
>beer just makes me fall asleep before getting fully drunk

Wtf me too. Is this just an old person thing?

 No.309595

>>305228
I don't know what "for the better" would even mean. I have no dreams or ambitions or goals. If I could ask a genie for anything in the world I don't know what would help me without completely restructuring my personality to be a totally different person.
I guess the answer is no since I don't believe it's actually possible to rewire your personality in that way.

 No.309603

>>309590
I have no idea, it certainly seems like it.



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 No.307650[Reply]

I have become increasingly depressed at the state of discourse about almost any subject. Look at the opinions of most people and discuss their reasoning with them; they do not really have reasons based on experience or logic. They are just saying things they think are normal to say. They imitate others. They understand the world through memes. Zero actual curiosity or critical thinking skills when it comes to discussion of politics/culture/history/science/art. Everyone just parrots what they think others think. They think in memes. Partly to fit in and achieve social acceptance and partly just monkey see monkey do like a child or animal.

Democracy is a failure because most people have no idea what they are voting for or what the consequences will be. They just follow the cultural memes. The internet has exacerbated this. Most people’s political views or views on the culture are just glorified SIX SEVEN repetitions - people have no good justification for any of the ideas they follow.

It might sound arrogant and supercilious to say these things. I worry that I am not that different and I just copy things sometimes by instinct. Makes me wonder if the self even fucking exists and we are just biological self replicating robots copying things.

Depressing. Enraging.
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 No.308922

>>308903
Before I read an "in-a-nutshell" explanation of his ideas and some of the examples maybe…





…i would like to say I do find myself in the situations when the very feel of being pushed to the limit creates strong emotional feedback within my mind.

 No.309003

>>308903
Thank you for this recommendation. This is fascinating. Listening to a podcast about him. Yes, the theory of desire being mimetic makes sense. As does the idea that the subject of copying becoming a rival. This being a basis of violence. Therefore competitive violence is, for want of a better word, natural or inevitable. Scapegoating becomes the way of attaining stability. Makes sense. One can see it in schools.

 No.309566

I know what you mean. The worse thing is what this means for effective education, law and order and politics. If people are just copiers then it sort of defeats the purpose of democracy. Nobody can even agree on what words mean so rational debate becomes fraught if not impossible (Hobbes).

Progressive parenting and schooling is built on the idea that kids behaviour is either rationally driven or driven by emotional problems created by experiences. e.g. ‘little Billy is acting out and getting angry because of some trauma that needs to be listened to.’ Similarly progressive approaches to law and order rest on the same concept; ‘people commit crimes because they had broken childhoods or make a rational decision because they are desperate for money and food.’
By contrast more conservative approaches to crime see it as a fundamental moral failing - sin.

If I am right and a lot of human behaviour is driven by literal f all except copying other and habit then it means that quite a lot of crime and violence and disruptive behaviour really is straightforwardly fixable by brainwashing, training and habit building.

 No.309577

>>307650
>Makes me wonder if the self even fucking exists and we are just biological self replicating robots copying things.

I don't know why you would ever consider those two things to be mutually exclusive.

 No.309597

>>309577
Yeah I did not explain the context as I was in an emotional state at the time of writing. I had been reading some Buddhist texts - one story about Nagasena and King Milinda stuck out to me.
You can read it for yourself: https://suttacentral.net/mil1/en/kelly?lang=en&layout=plain&reference=none&notes=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin

I thought the only response to Nagasena’s thesis was that humans consciousness was the khanda that provided reality to the self. However, I have realised generally speaking human beings are not really conscious at all of their decisions. We just do things and our consciousness comes second. Our thoughts we experience are not our own. They come from another khanda not the conscious part. Our decisions and actions do not come from the conscious part of the khanda. They just arise and then we experience them then we pretend we made that decision. We are like robots.
Very depressing and disturbing.



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 No.306970[Reply]

I've seen this discussed in many threads so I made a thread for it. Many wizzies had had their life destroyed by psychiatric medication be it SSRI's, antipsychotics, benzodiazepines or others. A psych ward stay tends to leave you worse off. Some people get abused in psychiatric institutions. Mentioning you are sad and thinking about suicide to a doctor or nurse can get you forcefully restrained and tranquilised.
I'm suicidal but I avoid any medical help precisely for this reason.
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 No.309563

>>309554
What country? This is one of the issues raised by people covering the topic.
The number of disabled and just people being generally shit at their jobs is going up.
If they can't get anyone to care about people having their lives ruined, they might be able at least to get them to care that it is bad for economic reasons.

 No.309564

>>309563
Australia. Keep in mind ive been institutionalized pretty regularly. Sometime after covid the change happened. Its around 2025 it became very noticable. Theyve given up trying to wrangle the homeless too.

 No.309565

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>>306970
What about Hypnotherapy? There's that dude called Yapko or something and is popular at this field bacause he is against aggresive use of drugs, he even dont suggest use it (maybe in oddly specific cases to return to the middle in health mind but that's rare)
There's some CBT, Hypnosis and exposure therapy mashup people somewhere but i dont know how they work.

 No.309567

>>309565
hypnosis is mostly a meme. people psyche themselves out all the time but it doesn't last because it's not a deep, systematic change and there is nothing to hold it. the same factors that created the problem will create it again.

the thing with these mashup therapies is that combining multiple useless approaches just creates another useless approach. they should invent an everything therapy where they just go from A to Z and use every possible therapeutic technique until something works. it would save people time if they could just speedrun the disappointment and then go try something else, usually spirituality or psychedelic drugs as their last cope.

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>>309561
>When did middle aged housewives get hooked on them? Back in the late 90s and early 00s?
SSRIs were gently pushed to the publis as if they wee a dietary aid or boner pill. Someone could be "In the know" about them without ever having seen a doctor or read any reports on them. The symptoms SSRIs are said to cure are just the regular, temporary symptoms associated with menopause and having your kids leave the nest. These succubi were sold on the idea that their lethargy was chronic and that these pills would make them feel young again. They've always been the target buyerbase for SSRIs. The eruption of young people, especially men, taking SSRIs is a new phenomenon



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 No.309207[Reply]

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson

erowid.org
psychonautwiki.org
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 No.309466

>>309465
This. Total richnog death. Now!

 No.309467

Alcohol has once again claimed me. I guess life just becomes too stale without it after a period of time. Maybe I should do acid again.

 No.309468

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>>309207
>psychonaut
You still can have trippy experiences without drugs.
All the things are in your nervous system.

 No.309542

I had to take opiates for pain relief and whoops looks like I'm addicted again :p

 No.309558

>>309468

Or backyard, for the botanically-inclined.



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 No.307038[Reply]

Other people make my life unhappy and miserable
I just wanna be left alone
What is worse then having to fight with other people toget what you want every step of the way
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 No.307081

>>307080
That's a really stupid interpretation of the statement. There's no need to deduce something so clear to similes involving material utlilty.
>A man who has the knowledge but lacks the power clearly to express it is no better off than if he never had any ideas at all.
Means that doing things ends up getting those things done, while just thinking about doing those things doesn't. There's no reason to revere those who simply think. Such reverence is especially unnecessary in the context of reflection, i.e don't get an ego boner because you know how to solve a problem but are too lazy to actually fix that issue. Your contribution to resolving the issue as someone who knows but does not do is worth the same as that from someone who doesn't know and doesn't do, because they both bring about the same results. tl;dr Do it, faggot.

I can't figure out the quote's relevance to this thread, but on the whole it applies to /dep/ well
>I want to die soo sooo bad and I've learned 500 ways to kill myself from suicide handbooks but I absolutely can not and will not kill myself because uuh willpower or predetermism or my mom will turn me in to a vegetable or something. You must pity me and revere me as though I am someone who actually did take his life though because me and him are like totally the same, in fact I am suffering more than they guy who actually did die.

 No.307084

>>307038
What is worse?
People acting like they know everything about you from taking just one look at you, or from reading just one of your posts. If you take their misguided advice, you will not only fight with other people on your way, but you will be going the wrong way entirely.

 No.307086

>>307044
Extreme laziness, gooning, idling in the comfort zone for too long.

 No.308754

>>307080

More like

"A car without any of a myriad of tiny parts that make it run is useless"

Say, you can flub up with not changing oil in your car or literally flub up not having worn out timing belt/some pump/brake fluid leak diagnosed properly and timely. And diagnosing cars is easier since cars come with OBD2 ports to plug a 10 USD car-to-laptop wire instead of 20$ for a _single_ vitamin deficiency test

 No.309536

>>307079
AGREED



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 No.303736[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

You will still be stuck browsing this thread in 2026 edition

previous>>296811
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 No.309630

>>309599
Every pizza store has been owned by penny pinching Indians so I've never been able to get discounted pizza at work, they will wait until it's several days old and offer me a 5% discount. Meanwhile I hear about the local mcdonalds essentially giving people 1 free meal per 6 hours.

 No.309634

>>309630
I'm lucky enough I work at a Speedway convenience store. When we got the shit to make it & our stuff works, we can make whatever we want and take it home for jack shit. FeelsGoodMan

 No.309653

Had an accident at work, "nobody is at fault", can't quite go into the details but I've had 5 months paid leave. Could take longer but they'd stop paying me after.

I genuinely dont want to go back, in the 5 months I've been off I've spending my time walking, playing videogames, watching films and working on small projects. For the first time since becoming a wizard (level 8) I feel at peace. The money didnt hurt either.

 No.309683

>>309653
Money + freedom is the ultimate goal for a wizard IMO. Neet but without parents. I sometimes wish I had bought into that hustle culture thing when younger and just got a college degree and a high paying job so I could work on that FIRE shit. (Financial independence, retire early). I still want to find a way to do it without a job at all.

 No.309914

My succubi coworkers are so fat that they shake the desks when they walk by. Theres also the faggot guy who smells yet everyone is nice to, even though he talks like that one mad scientist character from courage the cowardly dog. extroverted freaks are the worst. Nobody does jack shit and i get stuck doing all the work.


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