/dep/ - Depression

>>307051
Sounds more like a nigger said this

>>307068
ok so?
what can be taken away from that quote?
it's like saying
"a car without fuel is useless"
well yeah duh
so?

>>307080
That's a really stupid interpretation of the statement. There's no need to deduce something so clear to similes involving material utlilty.
>A man who has the knowledge but lacks the power clearly to express it is no better off than if he never had any ideas at all.
Means that doing things ends up getting those things done, while just thinking about doing those things doesn't. There's no reason to revere those who simply think. Such reverence is especially unnecessary in the context of reflection, i.e don't get an ego boner because you know how to solve a problem but are too lazy to actually fix that issue. Your contribution to resolving the issue as someone who knows but does not do is worth the same as that from someone who doesn't know and doesn't do, because they both bring about the same results. tl;dr Do it, faggot.

I can't figure out the quote's relevance to this thread, but on the whole it applies to /dep/ well
>I want to die soo sooo bad and I've learned 500 ways to kill myself from suicide handbooks but I absolutely can not and will not kill myself because uuh willpower or predetermism or my mom will turn me in to a vegetable or something. You must pity me and revere me as though I am someone who actually did take his life though because me and him are like totally the same, in fact I am suffering more than they guy who actually did die.

>>307038
What is worse?
People acting like they know everything about you from taking just one look at you, or from reading just one of your posts. If you take their misguided advice, you will not only fight with other people on your way, but you will be going the wrong way entirely.

>>307044
Extreme laziness, gooning, idling in the comfort zone for too long.

>>305829
my parents idea of "parenting" was to constantly inflict these petty torments. I was just thinking the last day how unthinkable it is for me to want to hug my mom. I've long cut off all contact. my life was like a game of running away from gross people

Yes. If I were convinced otherwise I doubt I'd stick around very long. I wouldn't do that to my family though. Or my cat.

Anyone have the opposite, where large portions of their family hate them so much that they'd be actually sniggering and happy at the funeral?

>>303825
My grandma would care. My mom would be mad because having a son kill himself makes her look bad.

>>306564
What did you do bro

I've been a Satanist forever. I avoid other satanists though. I've found a lot, in general I like the path I'm on. I've tried Orthodox Christianity, for 2 years. I like a lot from it, I suffered a lot but orthodoxy helped me be glad and not worry during it. But it's hard. I never got baptized I couldn't even after a year, the priest wouldn't let me.

It has useful insights. But don't get locked down and forced to defend ideas/people you normally wouldn't

>>306449
I used to read the bible to know what in the past was normal and have some kind of guide. It helped me understand that the evil and destructive of humans it's not nothing new, but something periodic and only changes in what kind of evilness they practice. Religion as an answer to everything I think that it's pretty limited from a human being to process the real world and the environment and most people are closer to the church than god so that makes me think that they sin from the immaturity and the same bad behaviors that the great majority has. I don't think that religion is for everyone and most of wizards here want answers, not consolation. My family and most people only tried to comfort me when bad things happened in my life, and that makes me feel worse because I want the "why" happened that so I can evade it or learn from there,etc,etc because I feel comfort when I know why x or y stuff, good or bad, happened. But that's my case. The most majority only wants to remove the emotion and continue without knowing why happened and that's what religion is a good answer for a great amount of people. Not in my case and I see that not in yours.

>>307000
> It helped me understand that the evil and destructive of humans it's not nothing new
YHWH himself ("God") does and commands so many evil things himself throughout the Bible. Did you even read it?

The idea of going to church to solve all problems in your personal life would appear absurd to your average person 300+ years ago, as the church/mosque/whatever was intertwined with the social fabric and just something you did. Most people were functionally cynical and indifferent, focused on worldly matters. They just experienced bouts of religious revival every time a catastrophe like a major famine hit. Superstitious would be a better way to describe most.

Religious fundamentalism and traditionalism is actually a modern intervention, and is a form of mass politics similar to fascism/nazism/communism.

>Idealizes a mythical past, whether the early church or early caliphates
>Reaction to the dislocations of modernity
>Mass political involvement and mobilization of large segments of the population. From placarded displays, large protests, political and religious symbolism.
>Often focused on a single leader, as is found in megachurches with Christianity or Ayatollah Khomeini in Shia Islam.
>aims to regulate the private life more entirely and more thoroughly than old religious communities ever did.
>Anti-syncretic and anti-pluralist.
>Total indoctrination of the population
>Homogenizing and populist, widespread promotion of intermarriage within the accepted population/ideological community and mixing in order to level out everyone to the same level.

You see this most pronounced with Islam. The average Muzzie in the 16th century was syncretic with older traditions in his region, often drank alcohol in his village and knew very little of the actual contents of the Quran and Hadiths. Since the printing press got introduced to the region and they suffered colonial humiliations, they stripped Islam to its barebones (especially with Salafism) and are using it as a vehicle for mass politics. It's why the region can flip between Ba'athism and Islamic Fundamentalism with ease, they're functionally approaching politics from the same point. The Trad-LARPers have more in common with Marxist Leninists, Ba'athists, Fascists than they do with the early church or caliphate they so admire.

>>307071
In India poor muslims don't give a shit about the slcohol and drug hadiths and laws either, they cope like other poors by abusing said substances.

Did you know Pakistan has one of the biggest drug and alcohol problems in the world?
Iran also has a major problem with alcoholics despite alcohol being legally banned.

>>306219
You should never immediately trust someone because of their status or credentials.

They might have status or credentials but they are still human and as such you can never trust their intentions until you've proven them.

>>306223
I know. I even knew it was poison. But I was in a dark place, very young, and didn't have enough life experience to realize how much this stuff could destroy me. And most of all, I wanted to make my mother happy.
>They might have status or credentials but they are still human and as such you can never trust their intentions until you've proven them.
You are very correct.

>>306148
Didn't mean to sound so dramatic. I hate crabs and their brain dead ideas. The truth is that I could never kill a human being.

>>306219
>Stopped working out and eating healthy, I am slowly rotting and have no more will because my situation doesn't seem like it will ever get better. If it improves, that will be in many years.

It’s perfectly okay to feel this way sometimes. You don’t have to feel bad for feeling this way. However there exists no objective logical ground for you to have imposed this conclusion on yourself as a sort of certain fatalistic sentence. In my own case, I managed to (mostly, ~95%) cure my pssd within about 1.5 years of its on-set. I feel that you should be able to do the same if you remain diligent in your diet and (just as importantly) trusting in your private mind that you can be bettered and ultimately returned wholly to where you were before the ingestion of ssris.

>What do you think of TRT, reinstatement… or something else? I have been told to do keto diet. I really feel like the best thing would be to microdose shrooms, lsd

I don’t think your problems are related to circulating levels of sex hormones, especially not at your age. I know after having taken ssris and encountering genital impotence and anesthesia that my own serum levels of testosterone were essentially unchanged from the year before (suggesting that the drug had not materially altered them). I cannot speak to “microdosing shrooms” as this seems near totally impertinent to the restoration of a former normal chemical balance within your brain; if anything I would imagine introducing heavy psychogenic drugs like shrooms would only further confuse an already-confused neurochemistry.

But as to what I do think might be helpful:

1. Recall that prozac being a fluoride-based ssri will particularly lower blood levels of folate (vitamin B9). In addition to everything I already recommended above in earlier posts, I would like to advise you to make sure you are getting sufficient amounts of folate into your body everyday (preferably through a well-made and well-reviewed B-complex supplement). This will combat the likely chronic folate-lowering effects of the offending drug.

“Depressed individuals often exhibit low levels of serum and red blood cell folate.”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>306999
good advice and nice digits

getting a job won't stop your parents from abusing you. the real reason you are the punching bag is because you are weak and they can get away with it. there are no consequences to verbally or physically abusing you. and to top it off, you also believe you rightfully deserve it, so they don't even have to fear you hating them or feel guilty.

this is not your fault. the real problem is life itself, society is built up on these chains of abusers, power structures dictated by biology, customs, even ideas. your father gets yelled at work by his own boss, the boss gets yelled at by his shareholders or clients, and so on. each of them copes with their frustrations by exercising power on those weaker than them. many wizards that live with their parents earn money, they're worth their weight and then some, but did the abuse stop? of course it didn't, the parents still see them as weak and subservient, so they exercise what little power they have and yell at them for having fun on the computer or not reaching so-and-so milestone or whatever, they can always find something.

you should try to gain power in this relationship. when your mother or father berates you for something, make sure you do the opposite. if they say be careful with so-and-so, make sure you deliberately fuck it up and have them witness that it was to spite them. eventually they will think twice before speaking up. then, make sure that you are always enjoying yourself and being happy (even when you really aren't). if they come home from work and they are demonstrating or complaining how tired they are, tell them about your day where you did absolutely nothing and make sure they understand that they are fundamentally under you. they slave while you stay at home and enjoy yourself, guilt free! initially, this might anger them, but if you stay on that anger and hold your ground, they will give up, because they are fundamentally also weak. they are fighting on another front already, they lack the energy, they will eventually say, ah, let him be, there is nothing to be done. and that, is when you win. when you morally defeat them and turn the suffering on them.

you shouldn't feel guilty about being a leech, wiz. it's your one source of power. you have no money, no friends, you don't even have peace in your own home. you should use it, make your parents suffer, make them regret the pleasure they had while fornicating, let them regret the sweet act that brought you into this worPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I used to feel like this, now I just want to hang myself, no longer trying to get better.
There is something fundamentally lame about living anyway, you spend like 95 percent of the time struggling, suffering, surviving, for what exactly? This slow rotting and dying is inevitable and your dream existence is never coming. Might as well just get it over with.

I didn't read any of that but the solution is to take daily action start with something small and then gradually build up. Stop thinking so much and writing blogposts.

Get a skill, you may have to go to uni, or a trade school, or military. You already want to die, probably because you are paralyzed and not doing anything and self-hating on that account. Just do something SUSTAINED.

I can relate.

I'm exhausted of being paralyzed, that's either due for being so slack or become instantly petrified at imminent danger.

Breaking this addictive cycle is so damn hard, plus, you have to withstand your peers actually arousing to action and surpass you in every way while life goes on. It's tiresome.

>>306972
I have already went to a uni, but if I were to unfairly judge your comment, even though you gave me a fairly good advice, I would say you don't live in third world. While certainly your advice has a lot of merit as people who I studied with are doing relatively better in their lives.
>>306993
Absolutely but I feel like what good was the uni that I went to or what good were the actions I took if I had to end up unemployed where every day is the same except the disrespect and disdain towards someone like me goes up.

>>306965
You're absolutely right it's mostly because I am weak to be honest with you, but I don't feel like I deserve it but more like I bought it upon myself, now here's the thing I can't really do the opposite because I am dependent upon them for food and shelter. Honestly, yes, in some ways I do believe that they do share some responsibility for me, but then again I am also an odd one out and I also want to move out, which I am trying to if I am being honest, but yes, I should work on not feeling guilty.

I can't relate cuz I really like pooping.

I do hate having a physical body though, but mostly because meatspace is so cumbersome. Having to move around, all the tiny complexities of real life that make things a hassle, tripping, hitting myself against objects in my house, things falling out of my hand, spilling drinks… I also hate how vulnerable my body is, one poke with a sharp object and I'm probably dead, all the gooey stuff just leaks out.

I would much prefer to be a glowing orb of light or some shit, no physical body, just pure MIND. Maybe soon, after I finally rope.

I am incompatible with living on a very deep and fundamental level. I am 30 and I feel like human bodies after this burst of youth and vitality in the teens and twenties are just slow rotting flesh machines which aren't worth living in. To maintain this rotting machine you must waste away at some job for most of your existence. Why should I bother if I can just hang myself ?
You receive this psychological hostility from other humans with lies, gaslighting, petty torment etc. Why shouldn't I just leave ? Finally there is everyday life, everything is dirty, noisy, unpleasant. I can't say I'm unhappy that I am hanging myself.

>>306938
I think much of the despair and nihilism in our culture is due to the fact we almost universally have to go through debilitating old age now. It's weird, in the olden days you could be pretty confident you'd drop dead sometime in your 40s, even the 50s was a gift.

People used to drop dead from disease within a few years of their bodies giving out.

>>307006
Are normies even despairing? They seem to enjoy this soulless and nihilistic behavior.

I always wished I could be a floating shape, like in Flatland. And to emit light at will. I could explore everywhere on earth, travel the bottom of the ocean, wander through forests, explore caves… I'd want to either be a 3d cube or 2d triangle. Eventually I'd go to space to explore and never look back

>>306831
if there is 1.6 billion jeets out there then doesnt this mean they fuck all the time? you need a lot of sex to produce so many jeets.
also if they do have so many wizards/crabs then how come they dont have their own jeetwizchan? why they come to the human internet?

>>306835
come to think of it jeets who come here tend to be in early 20s, but still i think there should be a few in their 30ish.

I really don't understand why people have to be racist to Indians on here, and I say this as a genuinely racist guy.

So what if Indians post here about their problems? It's a slow board, it's not taking from anything.

>>307014
Accomodate third world users, become a third world website.

>>307014
>I really don't understand why people have to be racist to Indians on here
imagine this: I visit your house and ignore all your rules inside your house and put liquid diarrhea on your carpet straight out of my anus.
the next day I return and do the same thing again.
would you be happy about that?
probably not unless you are indian yourself and live in shit and its normal for you to shit everywhere to increase your izzat score.
So this is what the indian posters do, just look at OP. comes to this male virgin website to write up in broken english, I quote: "I want a beautiful succubus", clearly against the rules.

So why should we tolerate and accept these shitskins here? they dont respect wizchan and its users, they dont respect the rules.

>>305795
don't over-do.

>>304793
Do you follow this diet?

>>305499
Any authentically calm space will do. You don't always need to be on the floor to meditate, you know.

>>306619
Being outside is excellent for meditation. I actually like to vary my spots. What is your favorite?

WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE WAVING GOODBYE

WITH SOARING EYES

>>305896
>idk about that. think about how we live in an industrial world. we're like cats locked in a flat. you know actually unless you sterilize your cat it'll go insane locked in the house. same with dogs for that matter. i think that's what's happening to people. you can't live like this unless you're castrated, but castration isn't an option is it. so yeah for us at least it's just suffering out there

I knew it.

>you can't live like this unless you're castrated, but castration isn't an option is it
It's not an option here because it's "untraditional".

i feel the same way. i hate who i have become. i am truly disgusting

>>306154
I think society is way more disgusting than any of us.

We owe nothing to the world.

>>306161
Fully agree. I may be a worthless jack of shit, but humans are spawns of the Devil. I don't regret not taking part in their grotesque play.

>>305879
>I wish to go back to sleep. Sleep. I just wanna sleep and not take place.
it's so real. I feel that way many times lately. I also feel deeply alone when i wake up in the morning. idk what i have to do to feel better I tried so many things :/

>>305797
Do you have any coverage from welfare schemes or unemployment schemes or something, I hope you do, you used the "$" sign so your country is likely developed and I hope that you make it.

>>306282
if robots do everything we will reach levels of efficiency where most things would be free, there’s no need for universal basic income if all necessities are produce at near 0 cost. this is the only hope for humanity, the other option is simply civil war and mass extinction

>>306282
>>306291
Ironically once we reach that point is when hell on earth is going to start.
Despite what many people think in the modern age, not all is equal and not everyone is some global citizen.

The second we reach that level of automation is the second the forever wars start.
To cull the useless eaters, to keep the people in line that no longer have to worry about the rat race that kept them in trance, to fight with other countries for the resources needed to maintain this "utopia".

Conflict will be the way of life. 1984 style. They are already laying the groundworks for it with the internet lockdowns, IDs for internet use to ensure no freedom of information, major geofencing with the EU trying to make a Chinese firewall (I work at a major ISP and it's been in the works for a while now, pretty much every ISP knows about this), so is the US.
A second aspect is the AI nonsense that flooded the web, further smoke and mirrors in the golden cage.

You wont even know what is really happening. You already don't. I'm scared as fuck. Misery will be the new norm since that is the best way to control people in this post-scarcity world.

>>306292
Well at least i hope with the massive culling things will be peaceful

>>305800
hahah loved that pessimistic acceptance